Crazies With Guns

The following was written 9 months ago, September 9th 2015. It was never finished nor posted:

http://wolbbaltimore.newsone.com/2019290/gunman-at-large-after-opening-fire-and-killing-news-reporter-and-cameramanwe-love-you-alison-and-adam-pic-twitter-comhlszqi06xe-wdbj7-wdbj7-august-26-2015-platform-twitter-comwidgets/

Last month when I heard about the shootings of news reporter Alison Parker and Adam Ward on live TV, I was devastated. So much about this story bothered me. First of course was the loss of life in such a terrible and senseless tragedy, and right behind that was the fact that I knew the internet would deem it all fake. Which of course it immediately did. There are all sorts of places out there in the Wild Wild Web talking about this tragedy being another faked shooting by liberal media or some other PTB (Powers That Be). Another attempt to get more gun control or take away people’s guns. I get it… but in reality, when a shooting like this happens, gun sales go up. One day I will write about all the types of crazy ideas out there that these types of shootings are fake and just part of a larger conspiracy to scare and control us. In fact I wouldn’t be surprised to see many posts on such things turn up here in the near future… the whole thing  mesmerizes me in some way, it’s so twisted… and you know how I like to untwist.

This post though, is about the crazies with the guns, not the crazies trying to convince everyone there are no crazies with guns. So for sake of argument (and sanity) let’s just continue from here (at least for now) with the belief that this shooting and the others discussed here really happened and people really were killed, and there loved ones loved and miss them.

In other words, let’s have a discussion on gun control under the belief this shooting and double murder really took place and is not a conspiracy to take away people’s guns or scare us into buying more guns. Even then the discussion is divided.

Families of the victims, as well as liberal politicians immediately cried out for more gun control, or at least the gun control much of America agrees it needs… which is back ground checks. And of course conservative politicians were quick to point out that this shooting would not have been stopped by background checks. Excuse me for my lack of tact here, but I’d like to smack all of them.

I’m sick of every time we have these shootings we are immediately bombarded with politics. People lost their lives, people lost loved ones, and there is no time for grieving before the politics take over.

Now that there has been some time, I will way in on the whole discussion. I should start off by saying I do not consider myself a liberal or a conservative, though I am very liberal (look the word up) and have lots of conservative ideas. But liberals are crybabies who get nothing done in my book. And conservatives… selfish racist… is there any other way to see them? Both feel entitled while pointing the fingers at the other. So it’s no surprise to see them take these tragedies and make them about themselves and their agendas (parallels, I know you can see them).

Next let me say I don’t get it. What is the argument? One side says we need background checks, which I thought we had already agreed upon as a whole in this country, though obviously not, because so many want to point out that this shooting would not have been stopped with background checks. Why is this argument being made in this case then? I mean seatbelts do not prevent everyone from injury in an accident, yet the law still says to wear one.

Get what I’m saying? Why are we even having this argument at the sake of those who lost their lives here? So background checks wouldn’t have saved these people, but they might save others, right? So STFU! If you want to have a discussion about whether or not background checks work or are needed, have it (or keep having it, because it’s an argument that keeps coming back) Why does it have to be centered around this case? I just don’t get it.

There is a discussion to be had here though. So let’s have it:

 

That’s as far as I got. I had intended to get into a discussion/rant about mentally ill people and their rights to bear arms. And let’s be honest, do we want mentally unstable people to have guns? Trouble is, who is mentally unstable? Do they have to be declared  unstable by a doctor? That’s hard to do in some cases as we’ve seen here first hand. So if someone is reported unfit or unstable and they refuse to go see a doctor, should they then have their guns taken away? And what do police do? Go in and confiscate them? There is a lot to discuss when it comes to crazy people and guns, but I guess I felt it was pointless to discuss when a new story of crazy people and guns pops up way to often now.  And there is no simple solution to what we should do about it. So the post just sat there.

I did have a few links I put on the post that I would have used to show just a few examples of how LE has to deal with crazies and guns:

http://ktla.com/2015/07/24/man-with-gun-shots-fired-reported-on-ventura-boulevard-studio-city-lapd/

http://www.scrippsmedia.com/ktnv/news/Las-Vegas-police-Suspect-put-gun-to-officers-head-before-being-shot-315391901.html

http://lasvegassun.com/news/2015/aug/23/man-shot-killed-after-firing-air-and-screaming/

http://news3lv.com/news/local/lvmpd-sex-offender-william-snider-had-long-history-with-officers

And those were just a few that I found close to home. I had also a link to the story of John Donnally Acree:

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2015/04/30/nashville-police-investigate-shooting-reported-thursday-morning/26627255/

I brought up Dorothy’s friend John again because that last Vegas story I found reminded me of Mr Acree’s sad story. And this is where I would have ended the post wondering if John’s Acree’s story could have ended differently if his gun had been confiscated earlier on, or if it would have only sped up the inevitable. In other words when and how do we go about removing guns from someone deemed unstable. It’s a good question, and one we better start asking. I was gonna end the post with something like: “After all, how comfortable would any of us feel knowing Nan Nan had a gun?” That question is even scarier today.

The post was never finished and I sat in silence on the blog for a moment deciding if I would finish the post or move on and then the sad story Bella Bond came up and the post was lost… but not forever.

So why post it now? There have been plenty of crazies with guns since I wrote (or at least started) the post. In the past couple weeks we have seen crazy people use guns (as well as explosives) to spread terror throughout the world, but it’s what happened in Orlando that really got me to return to this post. What happened at Pulse Night Club brings to light all the types of crazy that can go into such tragedies. And it also brings in all the gun control type arguments that may slip in both politically or realistically. Let me just list it all here to show what I mean:

Omar Mateen’s cowardly act was indeed terrorism. There is lots of discussion about this, but plain and simple, his act was an act of terrorism. Regardless of Manteen’s reasoning, the act itself causes terror and is terrorism.

It is also Radical Islamic Terrorism. I know lots of people are afraid to use this type of phrasing. I am not. Truth is truth.

Omar Mateen was heard yelling “Allahu Akbar”, which is usually translated as “God Is Great” and is what terrorist groups like ISIS ask of their “followers” to yell before their terrorist attacks. He also called 911 and a local news station and claimed his actions were indeed linked to Islamic Extremist type issues. So there is no getting around it. And there are other reasons to see him as a terrorist and this a terrorist attack.

After the 9/11 attacks, while Omar was still in High School, his class mates say he made  jokes about the attack, mimicking a plane crashing into the Towers, mocking those who died. He also claimed he was related to Osama bin Laden . Some thought he was just trying to get attention, I would agree. Most crazies with guns are doing just that, trying to get attention. And terrorist, definitely are trying to get attention.

Omar finally did get attention… from the FBI. In May of 2013, the FBI investigated Mateen because of some curious things he had been saying at his job as a security officer.  Mateen had told his coworkers that his family was linked to al-Qaeda and that he had joined Hezbollah. The FBI interviewed Mateen twice after opening an investigation. In these interviews, Mateen admitted to making the statements but “explained that he said them in anger because his co-workers were teasing him.”  Seems Omar hadn’t grown up much since high school. The investigation was closed after 10 months, but Omar would once again come under FBI investigation. In July of 2014, Mateen  was linked to Moner Mohammad Abu Salha, an American who had traveled to Syria and committed a suicide bombing  in late May 2014. The 2 were said to have attended the same mosque. Unfortunately Manteen fell off the FBI’s radar and was left unchecked as he planned for his act of terrorism.

I don’t want to jump to far off the crazy aspect into the terrorism aspect. I myself find anyone who would commit an act of mass murder ending in suicide for an ideology so twisted definitely crazy. But Mateen was all over the place with his worship and beliefs. He often spoke of different opposing groups (such as ISIS and al-Qaeda) as if he was part of both. This seems to be some of the reason why the FBI did not take him seriously, he’s just crazy. Let’s hope LE sees how wrong this way of going about it is. In fact, Manteen showing irrational groupings of his ideology should have shown through as even more reason to suspect he might act on his beliefs. In other words the fact that he is crazy is not a reason to doubt their radicalization, crazy should be a “red flag” not an exempt from terrorist actions. Especially when you add the other “red flags” up. We’ll get to all the other “red flags” but first I’d like to delve a little deeper into Mateen’s mixed-up ideology.

To do this we need to look at Mateen’s father. It is known that his father is a al-Qaeda supporter/sympathiser. The family is from Afghanistan. So Mateen’s early praise for al-Qaeda and the 9/11 attacks or his stories of being related to Osama bin Laden would make sense coming from a younger Mateen influenced by his father. I should point out that the father had stories of his own back then, claiming he would return to Afghanistan to be its leader in the end. Yes, I bet father Mateen filled son Mateen’s head with all sorts of fucked up shit. More on that in a second.

Given time and the change of things in the terrorist world, a few years later, Mateen still angry (we’ll get to the anger part) and crazy, sees the propaganda that ISIS has been able to create out there, is fully sucked in with thanks to the internet (fucking internet). So the confusion of who Mateen was committing jihad for is pointless, because his crazy ass was affected by it all… and much more. Besides parts of al-Qaeda would eventually become ISIS… so again pointless confusion.

The thing most said about Mateen was that he was angry and full of hate. This could come from his beliefs on how his father’s home country has been affected over the years. But it obviously goes deeper. His ex-wife said he was abusive and had to flee for her life from the relationship. People who have worked with Mateen have claimed his anger and hatred was more of a jealously type thing or a “they think they are better than me” reasoning. One such co-worker eventually quit due to the stress of working with someone with such obvious issues.

It’s too bad that the ex-wife did not take legal action against Mateen’s abuse… maybe it would have stopped the sale of a firearm to him. It’s also too bad the place where Mateen had worked hadn’t taken his co-workers complaints more seriously, maybe it would have triggered some kind of action earlier on.

Lots of missed opportunities here. Right up to Mateen being refused sales of body armor. It was reported, but since he did not purchase the armor, there was no way of knowing who the strange guy was that tried to buy it. And the report went nowhere. But from the early reports from high school, to the FBI interviews, right up to the attempt to purchase body armor, the biggest missed opportunity was from Mateen’s new wife. She knew he was heading towards radicalization. She knew he planned attacks. She had driven him to check out The Pulse nightclub. The night of the massacre she had an idea of what he might do. But she never spoke up or called authorities. I understand it might be difficult for families to turn in family members for suspicious activities or extreme views. It could be making the situation worse. In fact most of these terrorist acts were done by people who were once looked at by authorities for extremist ideas and possible radicalization. What I mean by that is that once someone is looked into by authorities, it helps to cement radicalization. In other words, being looked at suspiciously cause some people to say fuck it, I might as well be doing what they suspect me of doing. I know that is a very simple way of looking at a very complicated subject, but I hope the all government authorities see this and realize the fact they are looking into someone means they should never stop looking at them. You have to check back up on them, because just the fact you looked into them could be thing that kicks them over the edge.

Regardless of all that, in my opinion, Mateen’s wife knew what would inevitably happen. She should have spoken up and I hope law enforcement takes a good look at what should be done about her part in all of it as well as not reporting what she knew was gonna happen. Again my opinion.

So there is already so much going on here but we haven’t even scratched the surface. We have radical terrorism, anger issues, spousal abuse, mental instability, the want or need for attention, and all of it missed or at least not understood in time to stop what happened Sunday, June 12, 2016. We have only scratched the surface because we haven’t even began to talk about the Hate Crime aspect to it all.

Just as you can not say this was not an act of radical terrorism, you can not ignore that it was a Hate Crime. It was equally both. And just as I believe Mateen’s father was the main source of Mateen’s early extreme ideas (most likely they were encouraged by the fathers beliefs and further influenced by the internet and other Radical Islamic propaganda) it’s easy to see that the dick head daddy (the guy is such an evil asshole in my book) also forced anti-homosexuality beliefs on his son. Of course Islamic religion is really no different from most religions when it comes to the thoughts on homosexuality, but Mateen’s father is one of those still on the extreme side of religious thoughts on it. Which means it is not tolerated in any way.

So the fact that the attack was on a gay night club fits right into the extreme religious views by the father passed on to his son. But we all know it goes deeper than that. There are reports of Mateen frequenting The Pulse and maybe other gay clubs. Some say they communicated with Mateen on social media and gay dating sites and were under the impression that Mateen was gay and looking to date other gay males.

This complicates it even further, because this could mean that Matten was suffering from some sort of self hate or confusion about his sexual identity. This is also somewhat confirmed by his ex-wife and others who knew him and said they had wondered if he was gay. If he was, his growing religious radicalization and his father’s prehistoric ideas of how things should be would have been a very conflicting in his already deteriorating mental state.

And we can’t say for sure it wasn’t racially motivated in some way as well. It was latin Night at the club after all. And although some of the survivors of the mass shooting have said Mateen purposely announced his actions was not against “black” people, there seems to be some racist thoughts involved in the mind of this mad man.

In fact early reports from those he worked with said Mateen constantly said racist and  sexist things. Mateen seemed to think others thought “they were better than him”. This is not much different from those who commit mass murder in schools or work places. They fell mistreated or belittled by those around them.

Last and probably least is the fact no one seemed to point out. Mateen was a security guard who really wanted to be a cop. Anyone who has had to deal with a security guard who for some reason (usually good reasons) they could not become a cop and are now in a place to force some authority, knows they probably shouldn’t have guns. In fact lots of serial killers wanted to be cops and hung out with cops and try to be in on their own investigations. It’s just another “red flag” and another part of what I believe be the “perfect storm” of a mass murderer.

As time passes and other crazies with guns disrupt our lives and destroy the lives of those in their path, I hope we don’t forget what happened in Orlando. All the talking points are there. All the different ways these things happen, happens all at once and we need to start having the discussions that are gonna be hard to have. But we have to have them. I support the second amendment as I do all our rights. But we have to keep guns from crazy people. But someone who makes fun of 9/11, claims to be related to Osama bin Laden, has connections to known terrorist, is looked at not once, but twice by the FBI or Homeland Security, abuses their wife, is socially awkward and abusive to where others are afraid to work with them, buys large amounts of ammunition and try to buy body armor… well… they are crazy, and as we have been shown, they should NEVER have a gun.

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