“I notice he only posts comments from other people“. No fucking shit! It’s my blog, get your own blog if you want to post my comments. Yes I cherry pick the stuff that shows what I am trying to show. But they aren’t lies, they are things people really said. Still, if I have to show more to explain exactly how truthful this place can be, I can do that:
This comment left today by Maureen has got to be some of the most crap anyone has ever tried to shovel into one comment here. I didn’t cherry pick it. I waited for it to fit with some other comments I have cherry picked though. Yes, I had been waiting to address this subject ever since Patty and Maureen first brought it up in Kim’s group. But I was patient and Maureen wrote this masterpiece to frame it around. But not to twist it… oh no… we are gonna untwist this comment.
First though, here I am zero. There are so few rules here, but that is one, so please if you plan on any last replies… ixnay on the ichardra. NEWBIES!
OK, my so-called lies that Maureen called me out on. Maureen didn’t run to Dorothy and Jerry, just to that group… which is what I said, she ran to the group where Dorothy and Jerry were threatening and slandering me. I hope Maureen isn’t saying she didn’t join in with them… because we all saw that happen in real-time.
“Let me inform you, because you haven’t Dick, you have been sending PM to Rich Keeys and Patricia.” Wow, that’s’ a weird sort of lie to make it sound like I lied about something. Let me explain:
I have all sorts of messages and emails I don’t discuss here. I have said this many times. I’m quite up front that I don’t put everyone’s correspondence up on blast. Some say I do, thank you for proving I’m honest about that. Still that sentence implies I’m sending people messages and saying I’m not, that’s a lie in a lie. I never said I didn’t write these people. And to be honest I only replied to Patsy’s message:
As you see, Patsy contacted me and I wrote her back. What was your point Maureen?
I did send Rich Keeys a message. We have never met and he is commenting about me like he knows me. So I just introduced myself:
I wrote him he didn’t reply. Again, not sure of your point here Maureen. Other than your new boyfriend is an internet bully/real life pussy.
So far I don’t know what lies she is talking about. Let’s continue.
The whole part where she want’s me to prove she knows Susie and then asks why “it’s even relevent?” That was all pretty transparent, right?
Now to the meat of Maureen’s complaint. She thinks I should show my sides of conversations. Well, to bad.
Just kidding. If you really want it I’ll give it to ya:
There does that help? Both sides there. Shows what I said about the conversation was pretty accurate, no?
It did go on an on a bit, but everything I wrote you has been said here on the blog (if they would just read). Still, we can go a little further to erase any future debates:
Scratch that, I changed my mind. I posted the above before it was finished because Maureen couldn’t shut up about me contacting Patricia and Rich. Which as you can all see, Patsy contacted me and I answered her. I also did introduce myself to Richie (hee hee, I get to use it now) and he declined to write me back. So we covered all that. Happy now Maureen, I was gonna post more of our conversation because you thought it was so important:
And as soon as I start posting our whole conversation all of a sudden our conversation wasn’t that important after all:
Exactly what I’ve been saying all along. A while ago Mari told me she didn’t trust you or Jen G. Then you showed up asking me about Jen G and Spoof phone calls. I didn’t feel comfortable at the time having that conversation in an open group. Though I have posted about it since then:
That right there was what really began our correspondence. We continued the conversation in private where you agreed with me that Dorothy, Hawkshaw, TKAMB, and Jen G were all crazy and have hurt the case. Then Jerry showed up and you ran right for the shit show.
It’s exactly how I have said it is. So what lies is Maureen talking about?
That’s how the back-n-forth works Maureen, after a while you forget how it all started.
That wore me out a little, just a little, lol.
Look, it doesn’t matter, if you want to call me a narcissist and say I stalked ya. Join the other nuts. It’s where ya belong.
I just don’t have the time to keep explaining something you are never gonna get. But it’s all there for those who want to take the time and READ!
Zero's World 
Still not accurate. YOU INITIALLY CONTACTED ME ON ROBERTS GROUP, SAYING YOU WANTED TO SPEAK TO ME. I TOLD YOU TO PM ME IF YOU WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT JENN G. AND SPOOF CALLS. I DIDNT THINK MY COMMENTS NEEDED TO BE BROADCAST MONTHS LATER TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT, ON YOUR BLOG. I’LL SAY IT AGAIN, I DON’T KNOW DOROTHY, SUSIE, HACKSAW, ETC. OTHER THAN IN LISK GROUPS. I DO KNOW JENN G. AND I TOLD YOU MY FEELINGS ABOUT HER. I CAN’T SPEAK ON ANYONE ELSE. Never said you stalked me either. What we have here IS A FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE.
All this is what I said. Lol. Calm down.
I don’t get how she says it’s still not accurate. I said all of that.she commented on a comment I made and then we took it to a private message and then when she went to hold hands with Jerry and Dorothy I put up what she had said back in that conversation. All accurate because that’s what happened. No failure to communicate, you just failed at trying to play me. Bye Maureen!
Incorrect. Spun to fit into your little scenario, so you think you look like a HERO, guru, or the teller of truth, ding, ding ding, incorrect. No, “she” didn’t comment on anything u said, however you did ask me to contact YOU about JENN G. I did that, end of story, until your posting parts of that conversation between us. Frail ego when I posted in Kim’s group not to pay attention to your blog. That’s what got to you, and you thought you’d flip things and make me look like a hypocrite. Wrong. I did say those things about Jenn, so? I stand by what I said. You’re a spin master.
Are you staying you didn’t comment on what I said in Roberts group? I already showed the truth of that why would u keep lying about it? It’s not that important. Alright maybe I rushed that last post and it wasn’t clear. I will correct that. Again, yes I wrote on Roberts group because Susie was talking shit about me there. Then when I wrote about Jen you commented to me on the group. Then we spoke in private. Where you agreed with everything I said about Dorothy, Jen, and Susie. Why are u tagging with me. It’s what happened. One more post for ya apprehending want anyone not to get this. Get ready to enter “the no spin zone”.
All of a sudden Maureen has lost her love for the pronouns we and our.
It’s the cheap boxed wine, she lives on the shit 😂
so i’ve heard
Life is too short for boxed wine. You can quote me on that! ,😂😂
LOL!
My experience with DPT is through gossip perpetrated by Jenn. Susie, mockingbird, Tlamb, any of these others you claim to know I’m good friends with, you’re incorrect. I’m NOT FRIENDS WITH ANYONE YOU CLAIMED I WAS. HERE IT IS IN BLACK AND WHITE. I WAS WITH THESE PPL IN LISK GROUPS HERE AND THERE, MAKING COMMENTS JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. I’M NOT ON WS, OR ANY OTHER LISK GROUPS.
What is the problem here Maureen ? Cant take what you dish ;(
why would retard maureen think im a dude. hey asshole,wrong again
Lol. I thought you were at first, when you were just commenting on the other blog. But I realized here that I was probably wrong. I don’t know who you are nor does it matter. Though it’s driving Maureen crazy. Not a long drive, I think. Still it’s kind of magic how it all works, you commented on my LISK blog long ago, and now to find out you also have issues with Maureen (a growing group) well it just all fits. So who ever you are, just glad the magic still works here.
Lies, assumptions, and insults. Again RD, you approached me regarding JG, I discussed my experience with her period. I DO NOT KNOW DOROTHY, OR ANY OF THE OTHERS YOU SAID I WAS FRIENDS WITH, IN FACT I KNOW THESE FOLKS LESS THAN YOU PPL DO APPARENTLY. YOU SEEM TO BE OBSESSED WITH THEM, LOL. I’M A LONE WOLF RD. BOX WINE, NOT LIKELY, BUT NICE DEFECTION.
Just stop. Everything I put up is what happened. You just are reading it wrong.
Lmao, deflection?…You should talk Maureen..The ‘boxed wine comments’ originate from those that have known u way longer than us…But you know that…Your picture should appear under the definition of DEFLECTION, as noted by ur embarrassing FB display…You avoid ALL direct questions, choosing instead to use the same Memes OVER AND OVER AND OVER….Yet when you feel ignored you say people are in “hiding’ because theyre afraid of you…Yeah, that’s why..PUHLEASE….People block you for two MAJOR reasons: your ‘relentless’ (your word describing YOUR actions) stalking of them, obsession describes it best ….And two, you dont realize people have REAL lives outside the web…You just cant snap ur fingers and think ur getting an instant response. REALITY check…
Silly fool.
I’m so glad someone on Reddit pointed me here cause so many of those people are insufferable. Don’t get me wrong there are a few good ones but I actually stopped posting because of the ones who wouldn’t be popular in real life who want to be popular on there and are unfriendly to anyone who would be off the forum. I even watched them welcome about fifty people before me and after me but when I made my first post which mentioned it was that nobody welcomed me. I mean sure it could by an accident but I don’t believe it when the same people welcomes everyone else but then the second a female who isn’t ugly posts it was like I was ignored but then someone after me would point out what I did and they’d praise them because they were part of the club. I know some do go there to make a difference but the owner just wants money and it’s all a failed attempt to be popular. She only wants crimes solved so they can take credit if it was one of them so she can get more money somehow. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if she sits at home alone and masturbates to serial killers. But not ones in jail corresponding because not even they could stand her. I mean it’s opppsite world there and if you say you are a verified insider you aren’t and if you’re ugly you get more people talking to you than in real life and if you’re hot and do some modeling you are uncool and if you’re someone who’s popular you aren’t there and if you are there you aren’t in real life. And god forbid you have another opinion that isn’t the mods.
What sickened me the most was how they were with the Sherri panini thread where god forbid anyone point out the obvious hoax or something they don’t agree with but yet the same things they scold you for are the same things they’ll do on other threads cause it’s ok if it’s them apparently. And oh my god they must be blind because they kept calling her and her husband gorgeous and stuff when no she’s a solid five with makeup and worse without and he’s just as bad and the only reason people paid attention so much to the case is because it was old photos with lots of makeup(yet done to seem natural) where she was less haggard and heavily photoshopped and done by a photographer. I should know because I’ve done shoots where I’m like oh hey I look better there than in person and because she’s a spoiled brat who has photos with money and in private planes etc she likely paid a more expensive person for the job. But maybe in real life they’re average but think they’re gorgeous so they see another average couple and go oh hey they’re so hot! Cause I honestly cannot think of how else they could find them so beautiful. And I’m sure there are some attractive people there but honestly I don’t give a fuck about looking at their photos so I have no idea and don’t judge anyone for their looks and it isn’t the looks that bother me it’s the praise of them for their looks as if they’re blind and the papini is Heidi klum.
Ok end of rant but this isn’t directed at most posters since most hate it and go to reddit to complain so this is directed st the ones most normal people who haven’t drank the kool-aid or kookaide according to my phone. And I could say I don’t think I’m better than them which is the case with 75% of them but I wont bother lying since the same little group I do indeed think I’m better than and it really makes me glad I’m not like them.
And the timeouts they give out are so stupid. The ones I got I didn’t open and haven’t even checked my messages in ages and because I have a life(funny that I spend less time on there than the people working full time do) I wouldn’t even notice the timeout because I don’t sit there all day.
And before I end my rant I think the Owner should be sued by anyone who’s been outed as a suspect publicly in there because it ruins lives and likely never is the person yet they plaster their name number address photos etc I mean they’re so weird that they likely soon will say they’re seeing a dude under the guys jacket holding a crowbar in the photo from the Delphi murder case and they’ll be like oh look I can see his partner being carried under his jacket!
God I’m a bitch but I truly can’t stand the small group of them that this is about and it is literally only about those ones not everyone there so if you are not part of the cool club there it’s not directed at you cause like me you aren’t cool on the forum
You said it best with, “it’s all a failed attempt to be popular” that’s what the internet is really used for. I believe that was my initial point of my first blog (the red and black) before I was drawn into LISK and it’s long list of wanting to be important.
Wow Zero, a few thoughts while im catching up:
Amazing, No matter how MANY times (1000’s it seems!) you have explained it, there are still some who continue to tell you to focus ‘on the task at hand, LISK’.. Never, and i mean NEVER has that been the goal….Seems like a stupid thing i point out here, but if these assholes would ACTUALLY read what the goal is, the motivation, they wouldnt be in the position they find themselves in: Being outted as DISGUSTING game players, GAMES that have hurt many innocent people, games that actually hurt the very case they claim to be ‘solving’….Not for nothing, Jen is the only one who gets it, FINALLY., as she also accused you of the very same things as Maureen, DPH ect….
RE Kim: Nice bunch surrounding her..Really turns my stomach seeing these ATTN WHORES circles like vultures, EXACTLY as they did to Mari…Proving to me how IMPORTANT the work you do is still so important…What a gross bunch!
Lastly, all those who accuse you of ‘cherry picking’ are DOA…If they wanted to prove your guilty of this, why oh why have they never simply screenshot these so called omitted PMs themselves??????!!!!!! ASSHOLES… And YET AGAIN, for the record, you have NEVER ONCE posted any comments that do not prove GAMES…Proven by the MANY who communicate with you, including TRUE victims of this case, not to mention some very reliable ‘insiders’..How many people seek you out, begging for help because they themselves have been slandered and stalked by those you expose??? Thats how it works you DOPES! Your past victims FIND Zero, through GOOGLE!! Your games have been IMMORTALIZED by YOU!! Zero just put them in a nice neat package for anyone to read, and finally find JUSTICE…….Back when you had gotten it wrong about me, you OPENLY fixed it, and posted all your PMs, emails….I mean, STFU you idiots…READ, theres 6 yrs of CONSISTENT blogging….Our motivation is CRYSTAL clear, IF UR NOT A SICK, DANGEROUS, LYING, GAMING HATER, you will never find a more trustworthy ally than Zero…
Peace
Believe it or not Josh Zeman contacted me again and asked me to lay off LL6. LMAO! I haven’t mentioned LL6 in a while, and it was only a few posts. I guess LL6 keeps bugging JZ to talk to me. Josh said I should focus on the case and not the nuts. I’m so sick of hearing that. This from a guy who asks his interviewees specifically for “sound bites”. I have nothing against JZ, but LL6, really. All this does is change my directions once again. I think we need to look back into Seaslug44 and LL6. Maybe I can educate JZ a little about those he is getting chummy with.
I said the same in my last comment…Unreal. Most that end up reading and contributing here understand it has NEVER been the focus of your work to ‘sleuth the case’…So why is there always a group that doesnt get it……Josh touched upon the motivation of this blog in his documentary, and after speaking and interviewing you, i dont understand his confusion….If LL6 falls within this category (the effect those online have had on the investigation, case and the REAL victims, ect The backstabbing games players}, so be it…And why would Josh ask you to lay off anyone, WTF…??
I also agree, he has NO idea ‘who’ this band of gamers are, in fact he should study THIS blog before he proceeds…Sigh, Josh they all want their two seconds. They want you to give them credit, notoriety, VALIDITY. As you must ALREADY realize, they are VERY willing to back-stab each other….Particularly in their private chats with you…Right? We know.
Whatever. Maybe he just wants to be the star of one of your posts…
Lol..You completely moved on from LL6, as you stated above…But Josh pulled him right back in…No one was giving LL6 a second thought, trust that…But i know Zero doesnt appreciate you telling him who he should or shouldnt be writing about…So, there ya go, now Zero has to explain it one more time,with PROOF, so YOU get it..Lol, just WOW Josh.
Welcome to Zeros World 🙂
Josh. You met fluke you… Do you believe him? Didn’t you think something was,um, fishy? Creepy even?
Good morning! I started at square one and went over the details of this case again. That led me to some questions I can’t find an answer to. I was hoping someone could help.
1. The burlap bags and the placement of the GB4 bothers me. I can only find confirmation from LE that “at least 2 bodies were in burlap”, other than that, “no comment” when asked about the bags. Looking at the map of where the bodies were found, I began to wonder if they were all dumped at the same time. The distance between 3 of the bodies and the road is almost perfect. LE found no markers that I’m aware of. How did he do that years apart? Do we know anything about the decomposition of the bags?
2. We know LISK called MB-B’s sister. He told her he was watching Maureen’s body rot. From where? It would have to be someplace very private. I assumed he was trying to torture her by saying these things, but what if he was telling her the truth? It would make sense if he had held on to her body. He had control over her in life and death. By calling family, he extended his control to her family. The ultimate thrill of a serial killer, control.
3. Wondering out loud, were these bodies his first victims or all of his victims? I don’t think so. It was too neat. He evolved into the LISK we’re looking for. From cutting up bodies to being comfortable to simply dump them took time. Joel Rifkin followed the same MO. He stopped the forensic countermeasures when he realized no one was looking for the prostitutes. His hubris was his downfall and he was caught with a body.
4. Where the bodies ever buried to begin with? I don’t think so. I think he dumped them so they were not visible from the road.
5. Was Shannan’s body found face up or down? Read what LE/ME/Baden etc have to say. Those who follow the theory she drowned say face down; other’s face up. I realize you can technically drown in a cup of water, but come on. She wasn’t running for her life, falls face down into a puddle and didn’t get up. Sorry but the odds of that are astronomical. Add into that the mystery of her disappearing and reappearing belongings. Was Shannan killed by LISK, I don’t know. But I do believe she was murdered.
I have so many questions and there are so few answers to be found.
CA1, I was just about to write you to see how you were,plus I have a question. So look for it. I hope you are doing better. These are all very good questions, most asked here and other places before, most unanswerable I think at this point. I have really wanted to get away from the LISK case. The conference and all that has come after it has added to the long list of questions I have in the case. And the games people keep surrounding the case with has been pointed in my direction way too much. For these and other reasons I find it hard to even discuss the case anymore. But that does not mean we are done discussing it. As my next post will show, I am dealing with some personal stuff right now. But this blog is not done. I am still paying attention, I’m reading emails and comments and I will get to ALL everyone is talking about. And not just all the BS, your r questions are good ones. Before I climb out of this rabbit hole, we shall see if there are any answers to any of them.
ZERO, my friend, I am doing better. Thank you!
I’m sure these questions have been asked before. When going over the case again I didnt see them or find answers. This case is a rabbit hole. 😑
I think it’s good for anyone trying to understand or sleuth the LISK case to go back to the beginning from time to time and do just as you did, and get to the important questions like those you posted. I’m working through some things at the moment, both in real life and the internet one… but I do plan on one more serious look at these questions and a few others… I know I keep saying i’m gonna get to all of it… and there is so much to get to… and we will… my promise to all of you still taking the time to read here, I am gonna get to ALL of it.
No sleuthing for me! I’m trying to understand how all the pieces and people fit.
I got that. I think thats the best way to go about it. try to understand and fit the proper pieces were they go. I couldn’t have said it better myself.