So… just got through some rainy days (literally) and there may be more on the way (that one’s more of a metaphor).
Right now the sun is shining though. Road-trip to the beach!
By the way, Boogie’s debut album on Shady Records just hit.
So… just got through some rainy days (literally) and there may be more on the way (that one’s more of a metaphor).
Right now the sun is shining though. Road-trip to the beach!
By the way, Boogie’s debut album on Shady Records just hit.
Knock Knock, Let the Devil in!
If you read part 2 of this CCC trilogy, you know you were supposed to forget all about part 1. So you probably forgot about DPH and MM7 looking into UG and CCC and coming out with tales of Hackett and Dorothy’s ex husband. Tales of how Hackett and Dorothy’s ex were part of The CCC as well as playing some copy cat murder game against each other over some jealousy thing. You also probably forgot about all the screen names claiming to be part of The CCC coming to my blog and giving me no choice but to look deeper into UG and The CCC. And that’s good that you don’t remember any of that. It’s not needed to see the truth about The CCC. You can read part 2 and go away with what is FACT and can be proven by their own posts and comments on Utopia Guide.
So if you are happy with that, I suggest you skip the rest of this post.
You see the more you look into The CCC and UG, the more you start to question this “harmless” group of “hobbyist”. If you have decided to continue reading, you might want to remember the 1st post again. I know, I told you to forget it and you needed to forget it for part 2, but part 1 and 2 are both needed for part 3. All 3 parts will show how the mythology of The CCC grew and spread.
And just for the record, I’m not saying anyone from The CCC is LISK or that any of them are guilty of criminal activity, well other that the obvious. Again, these are things others who have looked at UG and The CCC have said and passed around. I was not the first to look into this and I’m sure I wont be the last. What I came up with is in part 2. The solid stuff that really don’t show much, other than the Morrie guy is stuck in the middle somewhere. Still there is so much out there that (like everything else) don’t add up. Here we go.
Wait false start, first I have to mention Shady Al’s.
Since I am not an LI Native (heh heh) please bear with me. When I first read that The CCC hung out in a bar called “Shady” I lost it. Any long time readers will totally get this. It’s an Eminem thing. And most may wonder why I even mention it. Trust me, it’s not just for a silly Eminem joke. Though, I can’t help it, I find it funny. But this blog always looks at things with multiple eyes (because it is read with multiple eyes), and some of you know who started posting Eminem lyrics before I came along (and it wasn’t Fluke like some might believe). I’ve mentioned it before and will again, there will be a last Eminem post before we are done, for those who still don’t get why this sometimes seems like an Eminem tribute blog.
Oh, I strayed quite a bit, or did I. Let’s wait and see.
Other than the fact this Morrie guy was involved in threatening comments about Amber right before she went missing, there is no connection between those in The CCC and the Gilgo Beach Murders. And yet there are those out there who claim if we knew who some of The CCC members were, there might be more of a connection than Morrie’s baseball bat threats. In part 1 I already talked about MM7 and DPH saying Hackett was Magic from The CCC. I also showed in part 1, that that was highly unlikely, since Magic was said to have died in 2010. MM7 and DPH had also said Brewer was part of The CCC:
The thought of Brewer being part of The CCC is definitely intriguing. But going by the things “lightweight” has said about himself, I’m not too sure he is Brewer:
Married with 3 kids in 2008. Yea, that’s not Brewer. There was also talk of Flukeyou being in the CCC with Brewer. That may come from comments like these:
But just because one of the CCC members has a thing for Russian girls does not make it Fluke. In fact the same reasons lightweight isn’t Brewer is the same reason it can’t be Fluke. And as I said in part 1, I looked into Wolf5958 (simple google search you all can do) and he ain’t Flukeyou either.
So there seems to be no real proof Brewer or Fluke were part of The CCC… but there is more talk about such proof, well at least when it comes to Brewer:
There are other posts like this on Websleuths where it is claimed that Brewer told people he was part of The CCC. But again, no actual proof that I can see. Still the thought that Brewer may be part of The CCC is intriguing. I said that. But is it true?
See how this could quickly became another tale (tail) being chased around in circles. Let me add to it.
Yes, back to Magic. There is something about this (other than the screen name “deadguy”) that bothers me. “I got the news from SCPD”. What is that all about? Why would SCPD inform someone on UG about the death of another person on UG? Is “deadguy” friends with the cop who told him about Magic? Is the cop a member on UG? I don’t mean to confuse it any further… but it just bothers me.
Maybe this post isn’t a good idea. Maybe I should stop why I’m ahead. But you all read the comment on part 1 from Emily:
This has to be addressed. First off I don’t buy it. I believe the person who left this comment wants me to believe they are this person:
And as I said, I don’t buy it, for one second. My LISK blog received bogus comments like this back when I first brought up The CCC, but we will get to all that. There’s a lot we can dissect in the comment on UG by the real Emily. But what I really take away from it, was that she is saying MM7 contacted her about all this, claiming she was an “investigative reporter”. And Emily didn’t like it. Damn, she probably won’t like being part of another WordPress blog, I’m sorry Emily, but don’t blame me, blame the “Emily” who left the comment on Part 1. Assuming it wasn’t you, and as I said, I don’t believe it was. I will get to who I think it is. Patience.
So this “Emily” (the one who commented on part 1) really wants to express that “she” knows most of the guys at UG and they are “NICE” men. We may have a difference of opinion of what is “NICE”. I have read plenty at UG and “NICE” isn’t the word I would use. But let’s just look at what was being said on UG about the LISK case by these “Nice” guys:
” it’s getting interesting”, “I hope everyone has their nose clean”. If they were such “NICE” men, they wouldn’t need to worry about “clean” noses, no?
When someone brings up coming forward with information lightweight brings up Seeker. The lol tells us it’s a joke, but since I have done some reading there, it’s not very funny. They also brought up Magic. Another joke, I suppose. I definitely don’t think this means Magic isn’t really dead, but I bet those who wanted to believe Magic was Hackett read this that way. The truth is, some of those at UG loved to poke at Magic. There was some real hatred towards Magic from some of them. Mainly from Lightweight and Teps. They would play these story games on UG where each person would continue the story being told with each new comment, and lightweight just couldn’t help bringing Magic into each one:
That may be hard for some of you to understand what you are reading there. First off you have to read from bottom to top. Anyone who has read at UG knows how confusing that can get. Second, it’s not whole stories, just parts of different ones where lightweight felt the need to bring Magic into it. As you can see by the small portions, you probably don’t want to read their little story games anyways.
How many of you find UG’s story games similar to the types of games played at the “Drunken Stepfather” site. Yea, me too. But I’m not trying to say UG is connected to DS or Lake City Quiet Pills. Don’t go blaming me for mixing the 2 mythologies. I’m just saying, like minds, maybe?
Alright, what I will say about all this is the dislike of Magic does circle around Morrie. Yes, it all comes back to Morrie:
There that sums quite a bit up, don’t it? I was still not reading at Websleuths when I first looked into The CCC and UG, I could have saved myself a lot of time and trouble if I had been.
So did Morrie harass Magic? Was Magic some kind of narc? The myhology only growing.
If you want, you can go and read for yourself what UG was talking about when bodies started being discovered off Oak Beach:
As I said before, it’s strange that they don’t mind anyone being able to read all the stuff they post on UG. And it’s eerie reading there. So if you didn’t click and read, I understand. To just point one thing out I will post a couple more comments from that thread:
“NICE” guys or not, I don’t see The CCC helping, even if they did know one of their members could be involved. Like with all the other corruption in Long Island, no one wants their own “Dirt” looked into.
I really should stop now. But that comment:
Is this the same Emily who was on UG? They sure do want me to think so. Maybe it is. But if it’s not, there can really only be one person behind it:
Don’t they sound a little alike? I know who wrote that. That’s NERD. He admitted writing it, just as he admitted to being PS149 and Seaslug44. I find the 2 comments so similar that even if the new one is from Emily, I would have to wonder if NERD knew her in some way. Which would be a whole other kind of thing. And this is already very murky.
So, for me, I’m gonna assume that NERD wrote that (I know all about assuming, we’ve talked about this before, and I’m more than happy to make an ass of myself to show the ass in others, you know this). To understand this you only need to know how NERD likes to involve himself in UG stuff. Back when screen names from UG were popping up on MM7’s and my blog NERD was part of the games:
I don’t know if those are the Teps and Lightweight from UG. Because when it comes to NERD, you just can’t know. He uses many different IPs. (though still was partial to a few for a while) and NERD loves to have ongoing conversations with himself with different screen names. Even if those are the real CCC guys, I am pretty sure these ones are NERD:
Even if these are other Websleuthers or UG members, or friends of NERD, it don’t matter, I know for a fact these are NERD’s:
And yes, as I said, this one is NERD as well:
Where to even start… well, NERD chose Genius as one of the UG members to pose as. Unless NERD is Genius. I doubt it. But Genius is on UG, one of the nastier members in my opinion. I wonder why NERD picked that screen name to bring to life in the comments of my blog.
Damn. this is getting long, but I know some of you will appreciate all this. Some of you are already lost, I’m sure. I do apologize for that. I also bet at least one person does not appreciate any of this. I do not apologize for that, you had your chance to clear things up.
So Nerd, aka PS149, aka Seaslug44 had a lot to do with The CCC and UG being brought up. He definitely was part of all the hoopla that got me to go read at UG. But back then I could only guess NERD was PS149, and I had no idea he was Seaslug44, so I would have no idea why NERD knew so much about UG and The CCC. I still don’t, well other than mythology and NERD’s not so believing attempt to explain it all to me. But I’m getting a little ahead of myself. You know how I do that.
Those from Websleuths probably already know where I am going, because it was discussed there when Seaslug44 became one of the many Websleuth members who cross over to POI for other Websleuth members. Because this was found:
Yep, Seaslug44 was a member at UG, since 2005 I should add. Now this has been explained in many diferent ways by Seaslug44, most he admits were lies. Let’s start with the ones he told other Websleuthers about how he made that account to help find someone, or something like that. Here I’ll let him explain it:
So NERD, or should I say SS44 was called out for having an account on UG, and instead of saying it isn’t him (which he claims it really wasn’t), he makes up some elaborate story to explain why he might have made an account up. All this to cover up a more elaborate story about a crazy ex-wife. But this is where I stared to wonder how honest NERD was being with me. We had talked about a lot of things, and I could understand and believe most of what he was saying. This wasn’t adding up to me.
As I said, the Seaslug44 account was made in 2005, which when I brought up, he acted surprised:
He didn’t realize when the “fake” account was made? He wanted me to believe that he got accused of being a serial killer because someone had made a fake account on a “hobbyiest” site that he did all sorts of searching into, but he never noted when the “fake” account was made? Yea, that don’t seem right. Plus he wants me to believe that his wife was mad at him back in 2005 and made this “Fake” account to screw with him. But he didn’t even know about it until the thing was brought up on Websleuths. Which by the way he decided to make up a lie about because his wife (who he was still with at that point) could be on Websleuths messing with him. If it’s true, I’m sorry, but I just can’t buy all that. Why would his wife use UG to get at him? Why would she know about such a site. And if she or anyone else made the account in 2005 to mess with him, why did he not even know about it till after it was brought up on Websleuths many years later? NERD’s explanations started getting harder to accept. And then of course I wrote the post about NERD being PS149 and Seasslug44 and I didn’t hear from him anymore. I understood, so I didn’t pester him with more questions, even though his answers on the CCC and UG stuff just didn’t make sense to me.
Then as I started thinking about making the CCC posts, UG went down. I’m still not sure why it was down, but it was down for quite a while. I had to get some other posts out, but The CCC posts were building in my head. And right before I started putting it all down, UG came back up. Which I thought was great because now there would be references for what I was writing about if anyone wanted to search it out themselves. Which is always best… don’t take my word for anything, go see it all for yourself and make your own decisions. But as I said before, when UG came back it changed just a little. Some comments about The CCC seemed to be gone and the Seaslug44 account, that had changed too:
I don’t know who that is, but it ain’t NERD.
Strange, there hadn’t been any comments or interaction from that account on UG since this:
Nothing else since 2005. And the picture and info had always been blank:
But now, years later, and not long after I speak with NERD, aka PS149, aka, Seaslug44 the UG goes down and returns with an updated SS44 account:
Weird, right? I’m not saying this means anything. I don’t know if someone asked Slinky Bender to change or remove stuff, or maybe it’s just all unrelated coincidences. All I do know is I decided to see what NERD thought about it:
And with that I was blocked. Fine. Just remember you came to the blog with your games NERD, all I did was figure them out. Go ahead and think I’m the bad guy. You are in good company. You don’t have to explain anything to anyone, but these questions are there.
Oh, and if you are behind the new “Emily” comment, NERD, WTF? Do you really think a third go at all this is a good idea? Just come clean and apologize for once again coming to my blog and thinking I’m still playing, when I said long ago, I’m done playing.
Wow, I really did go too far here. We really should have just stuck with part 2. A little late now though.
When it comes to The CCC there might not be much more than mythology. But that mythology is very thick.
Here we are 4:20 on 4/20 one last time. Let’s take a break and have some fun! But first some history:
There are lots of things about the cannabis plant you probably don’t know (well some of you probably know, I’ve been told by more than a few people my blog is better after smoking… which makes sense since that is how it is written). Like did you know that it wasn’t until the middle ages that the cannabis plant got a bad name? I know, that seems like a long time ago, but there was lots of time before it as well, and until then cannabis was actually seen as an important plant. What happened, you ask. The same thing that always happens… power, corruption, and the need to control the masses. Paper was an important tool that the PTBs (Powers That Be) did not want just anyone to have. Being able to write and read and share information… that could be trouble for those in power if the masses were able to have the use of something as powerful as paper. You may also not know that cannabis is one of the easiest and cheapest ways to produce paper… in fact before we go on take a look at some graphs:
That’s a lot of shit from one plant… now back to my story.
So the PTBs of that dark time in history did not want to let people improve there lives with paper, and since cannabis was the cheap and easy way to get paper… it became the devil’s weed. A crop that is so useful and beneficial became public enemy #1, a routine that would, like most things from history, repeat itself. It’s kind of ironic (if I’m using the word right, we all know I have a problem with that word) that one of the worlds most useful plant got its bad name of being dangerous because of just the opposite… it was too helpful.
Like with most things, the dark ages would come to an end… and the useful plant would survive the slanderous attempts to keep it from those who used it. But as I already pointed out, time repeats itself.
Here in America we have had our own PTBs out to smear the reputation of this miracle plant. It started with something that is still a polarizing subject, in fact one of today’s biggest topic… immigration. Back in the early 1900’s believe it or not America had problems with Mexican immigrants. The Mexican Revolution spilled over the border and caused problems. Due to the fact that Mexicans smoked marijuana and brought it over the border with them, laws and propaganda began. And it became a trend.
From Mormons to Jazz musicians… our PTBs found cannabis as the way to get at those who did not fit in to their way of what America should be. Religion and racism… it may have started the fire that threatened to burn cannabis away for ever… but it was good old greed that really kept the anti-pot propaganda going.
With all the new laws and restrictions on cannabis, other companies were able to grow and flourish. Textiles and paper companies and so much more leading right up to the big business of the drug industry all did better as long as cannabis was the “devil’s weed”.
Even though cannabis could put many industries out of business because it can be used for many of the same products, cheaper and better for our environment, cannabis was gone after like it could bring on the end of western civilization. Still greed and the almighty dollar was more important. Just think of paper alone. If we used cannabis instead of trees from the get go to make paper… would global warming and the greenhouse effect even be a discussion? Even though, during WWII, laws were loosened and cannabis once again was used to make the things needed, cheaper and faster, after the war, big business made sure that it wouldn’t be allowed to get in the way of money in their pockets.
This history lesson is getting a little long. Here’s some more to read if you are interested:
But the best way to get the whole history on cannabis is in a book by Jack Herer called “The Emperor Wears No Clothes”:
Before we move on though, I just have to say, no matter what your opinion on pot is the true tragedy in all of this is that because of lies and propaganda, real tests on the benefits of cannabis is not done. The fact that it is still a class 1 drug, no one is allowed to see just how good or bad it may be for us. Though from the few tests that have been done… there ain’t much data to say it should even be a class 1 drug. So we are left to wonder just what else cannabis could be used for:
But it’s the big C that we are really just learning about. If marijuana was only useful with cancer patients helping them with pain and nausea allowing them to eat and sleep, that would be enough, wouldn’t it? But we’ve known for years it does this and yet medical marijuana is still a fight the PTBs have not given up on. And now there are patients and doctors who believe cannabis may actually be a cure for cancer:
Yep, read up on cannabis oil and how it’s being used. Will cannabis be a cure for cancer? I don’t know. But I do know that the continuous attitude our federal government has (even worse now with Sessions), is keeping us from knowing sooner. That sucks.
Alright enough on all that. If you are still reading (and still smoking, it’s a holiday after all) I promised some fun… so let’s have some fun!
First off, if you are gonna celebrate 4/20 properly you have to listen to some Kottonmouth Kings… almost any album will do, but I suggest “Rolling Stoned”.
For those of you who don’t smoke or just want some alcohol for the celebration here’s a drink recipe just for today:
Now we just need something to do. So, here for the first time anywhere I’m gonna post rules to a game invented by yours truly, called “420 Break“. Yep, the post title has double meaning, don’t you love when I do that.
13 years ago on this very day, I was hanging out with friends and family, playing pool and I came up with a drinking/smoking game. It was kind of like the game “Quarters” only with a pool table. And now for the first time, if you have a pool table, you too can play. You will also need some beer or alcohol and a pipe or bong filled with your favorite strand.
420 BREAK RULES:
Rack the balls as if you are playing “8-Ball” with a few exceptions. swap the 1 ball with the 4 ball, swap the 14 ball with the 12 ball, and swap the 6 ball with the 7 ball so that the purple 4 is in front and the 2 green balls are in the back corners. Here, just look at the diagram below:
Make sure your bowl is packed and choose someone to break. The game is played like straight pool. Call your shot, make your shot. If you make a shot, you choose someone to drink and you shoot again. If you make 3 shots in a row you make a rule. This can be the usual rules of drinking games: no pointing, don’t use anyone’s proper name, or the ever popular you can’t say the words “drink, drank or, drunk”. Use your imagination when making your rule. One of my favorites I came up with was that you have to dance around your pool stick before shooting. As with all drinking games, if you break a rule and someone calls you out, you drink.
There are also special balls. If you sink the purple 4 ball or either of the 2 green balls (14 and 6) then everyone playing takes a hit off the pipe or bong. If you sink the 8 ball, everyone drinks.
If you sink the 4, 14, or 6 ball in on the break that’s called a “420 Break”. Everyone takes 3 hits or just light up a blunt and call it a house rule.
That’s really it. After the last ball is made, you re-rack and keep playing. The more rules that get made, the more fun the game is!
So there ya go, my 420 gift to everyone! Have fun!
Make sure to stop by the ZW FB for more music for your festivities:
Now take us out Em:
Alright, I told ya all this wouldn’t be good. Dorothy and Jerry are officially working together. Yes, this is as far from good as possible. I also knew it was just a matter of time before they came at me. After all, since Dorothy declared war on Zero’s World, I have been taking out everyone who has ever worked with her… so of course she’s gonna recruit him. So I made sure I went and joined Kim’s LISK group and let them know I knew they had hooked up:
Damn, that was fast right. But I knew where these people would be turning their attention to, and I just wanted to go straight there. Yes, “own worst enemy”… we’ve talked about this. And now that Kim had removed me from the “group” they could say what they wanted unanswered… well, not true, I have the blog, lol. So here’s what they had to say:
First off, that’s a facade Christmas shirt. LMAO, you big dope. But no, I don’t have big arms, not no muscle builder here that’s for sure. Let’s take a look at his arms again:
Wow, check out them “guns”. LMFAO. But hey, maybe you could take me and my puny arms in an arm wrestling match. But trust me, I ain’t getting near your crazy ass to find out. Let’s continue:
Are they serious? They sure want me to apologise to a lot of people. Do they really have the nerve to tell me to apologise to the victims. Man that’s so wrong. And Leanne? Jerry Jaime Hall, too far man, too far. And so untrue. But like all the other nuts, you make comments that are really telling about yourself. As we will see by the end of this post, you really owe some apologies… but don’t bother, just go away. I know he won’t they never do. As for all these other people they think I owe an apology to: Dorothy, The Scalise family, Cristen, Pete Hawkshaw, and Lovejoy (really, just say Susie). All these people and you Jerry can look for your apology at the end of this post. I promise it will be there.
That is really stalky stuff there posting what you think my Birthday is (it’s right on my Facebook, good work detectives). I told you guys, this Jerry guy is more than a troll, he is a real life stalker!
Right now I want everyone to just forget about the LISK case for one moment. I know for some of you that’s not easy… I understand, but for right now, let’s just try. I am trying to show you that this Jerry guy has nothing to add to the case, nothing! But more importantly, I’m trying to show you he is very unstable and if you let him in, he will latch on. As I said in the last post, I have heard this from quite a few ladies out there. I have seen screen shots of conversations where he does it. If you let him… he will do it.
But it’s hard to show this without showing those messages, and I really don’t want to put anyone on this guys “hate” list. I’m there and I got a taste for what that’s like. I don’t wish that on anyone, not even Dorothy though we all know she will fall for this nut, hook, line, and sinker:
Fuckin’ Dorothy. Still he was putting lies out there and I didn’t know how to show without posting things I didn’t feel right posting… but then Jerry’s lies lead me right to that way:
That’s from who many have come to call Leanne. It is from her real account therefore I am not showing her Screen Name. From this point on for sake of no confusion I will be calling her Louisa because that is the screen name Jerry talked to under. And also because Louisa stepped up today to shut Jerry right down. She put me in a 3-way group message with her, Jerry, and myself. I know, the last time some one put me in a 3-way group message I got chastised by Josh Zeman. Good Ol’ Lindsay Lohan 6. I wonder how Paul’s doing. Alright, Louisa had decided to shut Jerry right up, and I have to say, that she didn’t have to. But she did:
Yep, I think I said this all yesterday. That would be enough for me to end this post. If you chose not to see truth when it’s right in front of you, then you are never gonna get me or my blogs. You should just forget about it all. But Jerry is a nut like no other and his true self came out… let’s take a look:
LMFAO… after all Louisa just said, all Jerry can think about is I’m in this group conversation and he wants me. Yea, he want’s me bad. I didn’t really want to reply… he was missing the whole point of what Louisa was doing… so she made it crystal clear:
If you can’t read that, don’t worry here it is:
Louisa put up some of her old conversation between her and jerry to show she has asked him to leave her alone. I saw it for what it was, but Jerry had just one thing on his mind:
LOl, he called me chinky face because I wear the Guy Fawkes Mask. It’s racist and stupid. Wait, that’s an oxymoron. But you get what I mean. Louisa tried again:
Roh, Roh! Jerry was saying something about hunting Dorothy in those older conversations. Hope that doesn’t put a damper on their new friendship. I doubt it will.
It didn’t matter what Louisa said or posted, like I said Jerry wanted me. He wanted me bad:
See it? He’s “done with that”. He doesn’t care about LISK, or the victims, or Louisa at that point. All he cares about is who he’s obsessed with at the moment. Your’s truly. You all know how I have a way with doing that.
I have no need to go back-n-forth in private conversation with a nut. But I felt i had stayed out of the conversation for long enough. Time to give him what he wanted… I started off with a question:
That’s all I needed. Yes, Jerry I was there have at it:
Yep Jerry wanted me to post this as well. I’m telling you he’s nuts!
From that moment it continues on, Jerry calling me names and threatening me in all sorts of ways, while Louisa posted more of their old conversation where Jerry stalked and harassed her:
LMFAO, he called me a pipsqueake. ‘Member when Son of Man kept callin’ me sweet pea? Yea, we ‘member! I ended up posting a Red Hot Chili Peppers song for SOM, here it is again for Jerry:
Funny, huh? But let’s not joke too much about this. Jerry is looking up places in Las Vegas. He has posted this address in public places. What if that was my house? Or worse yet what if it isn’t my house, Jerry is stalking innocent people to find me. Maybe him and Dorothy belong together. Let’s go on:
More close-ups of what Louisa posted in the 3-way convo. You can see what she went through with him, so the fact that she was going out of her way to stop him from doing it to others says something, no? Again it was all lost on Jerry. all he could think of doing was reaching through the computer and grabbing me by the neck. I have that way on the nuts. But again, I had no reason to get into a conversation with Jerry. he wanted to kill me, I got the message loud and clear. well I would, because after I said this:
Jerry continued to go on and on:
Oh, I just did post it…
And I posted that too. I have no idea who he thinks is coming for him, lol. Although he said many times he or his friends were coming for me, I have never said such things. I don’t fly, so you know I ain’t going to the UK. I guess he thought Louisa was sending me over there and he wanted to send her a selfie of him smashing my knees in. Nice. Yea, Jerry is dangerous, I see that, I’ve been saying it. No, I am not going near that guy.
While he was ranting about me, Louisa tried a few more times:
Real quick, that “not me” line is a threat. Straight up. But he ain’t the first one in all of this to threaten me like this. How’s the saying go? ‘This ain’t my first rodeo.’ I ain’t gonna let this nut’s threats get to me. No mater how scary they got… and they did get scarier. Before we look at all that, I want to post the rest of the older conversations that Louisa was posting from her and Jerry:
Do you see how he goes on and on even without her ever acknowledging him. He finally threatens her and she once again tells him to leave her alone.
The guy is so dangerous, can everyone see that now? I mean that whole “crazy estranged family, whom will help him when contacted, these people are not as forgiving as I am particular my half brother across the sea“. That’s more than nuts. That’s so fucking scary that he would say that to her. And it’s even scarier that he would come back later and say. “I’m Just off to bed. How are you doing“. Are we all on the same page? This guy is not to be messed with in any way. STAY AWAY FROM HIM!
Long after Louisa and I had stopped saying anything in that group message, Jerry continued to go at me:
OK tough guy, keep running your internet mouth… and he did:
It’s on there…
I am, I am. Jerry just wasn’t giving me enough time. I mean it is Monday, and I rarely blog on Monday. I had things to do today. But there I got it all up there Jerry. Who is this guy threatening with these pictures? No one’s coming for you, you paranoid little shit. I’m not going near you and I suggest no one else does either.
Before I sat down to write this, I went back to see if he had added any more. There was one last scary comment:
Nice mask. At that point Louisa left the conversation and I did as well. Leaving Jerry to talk to himself for who knows how long.
I hope most people will start blocking this nut, he is dangerous, this is not up for debate any longer. He is not helping the LISK case. He’s not helping anyone. He is trolling around trying to find someone to make him relative. Someone to make him matter. He should just go see a shrink and stay off the internet. Which brings us back to his new buddy Dorothy.
Well, Dorothy. Another one down. And you just recruited this one. This war isn’t going so well for you. I know, maybe you think you are winning. People still are listening to Hawkshaw ramble at Websleuths. I know a few people still listen to what you have to say as well Dorothy, not many, but a few. And people are gonna listen to Jerry. I’m sure it will all be about me too, huh Jerry. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge:
Does anyone wonder why I’m getting tired of dealing with these psychos?
Look… you can’t change truth. So many of you want to. You want to make some fucked up shit you see in your head reality. But you can’t. Remember Dorothy, I’m not a Trump supporter, ‘alternative facts‘ do not fly here.
Oh yea, you wanted an apology… here ya go:
“Let’s get down to business
I don’t got no time to play around what is this?
Must be a circus in town, let’s shut the shit down
On these clowns, can I get a witness?”
Oh no, he’s quoting Eminem lyrics, this isn’t gonna be good. Shall we get started?
I have posted this e-mail before (Dorothy often began her e-mails with “DO NOT POST THIS ON YOU BLOG”, and I just get a kick out of posting them, in fact Dorothy I may put all your e-mails in a book someday… pipe, smoke it, you know the drill Dottie) and I have gone over how most of these names meant nothing to me back then, but with hindsight, you can see it all at work.
I’m not gonna get into all of that old stuff again. But you are all welcome to read through the e-mail and get what you want out of it, there is plenty to discuss there (and like I said we have discussed a lot of it already). I want to focus on one line from that name dropping masterpiece:
“Cristin also had me meet former NYPD Pete Fiorello. He knows ALOT about corruption in Suffolk County.”
This is where we are gonna start.
At the time I had no idea who Pete was. And there were so many names. But this one would come up again and again. Dorothy said he was a detective she worked with and she mentions him a lot. From what I know (and I know a lot) Pete worked with Dorothy and Cristin… so that already is a bad start. So working with Dorothy… strike 1.
As I looked more in to this Pete guy I saw that he was once indeed a cop, I started wondering if he was PS149… he isn’t. The more I looked into him I realized he was another one of these nuts who is obsessed with their LISK POI. I mean Fluke has nothing on Pete. POI obsession… strike 2.
But then Cristin brought the ex cop up to me back when Dorothy started doxing me. LOL, well Dorothy tried anyways, but she never believed any of the real stuff about me, not when the stuff she made up was so much better for her delusional agenda. Still, Cristin had called me, wanting to ensure me she did not pass any info about me on to Dorothy. I wasn’t too upset, I had let plenty enough personal info of me slip through, that it wasn’t to hard for anyone to figure out who I was. Shit, it only took Son Of Man a few hours once he started looking. I wanted people to know I was just who I said I was… it made it easier to see through Dorothy’s tangled web of what I have always called, Dorothy Dog Shit. I’m getting off track… let me jump back on… So Cristin said she didn’t think Dorothy found anything on her own. Even though I said to her all I just wrote here, she still didn’t think Dorothy could have figured it out by herself. Cristin then mentioned a detective that Dorothy worked with… guess who? Yep… Petey! Since then Dorothy herself had mentioned Pete helped her with putting together some kind of dossier on me that she has turned into the FBI. LMFAO! So it seems like this Pete guy, this ex cop, wannabe detective, looked into me for the queen nut troll herself, Dorothy Price Hill. That’s a big strike 3!
But Dorothy says in the e-mail above that it was Cristin who introduced Pete to her. So how much did Cristin work with Pete? And although Cristin insisted she never discussed me with Dorothy, there are many places where Dorothy has said they looked up things on me together. And I’m pretty sure they did. Some of my friends that Dorothy went after in comments I know came from stuff Cristin looked up (‘Member Tattoo Mike? Yea, I member).
So for a while now I have been keeping Pete on the back burner, seeing where he stood in all this and why he would work with a nut like Dorothy. So far I have not met one credible person who worked with Dorothy. Remember that list includes, Jen, Fluke, and MM7. Well, Pete, it’s time to come off that back burner. Welcome to the blog!
It will be nice to have someone new to write about, I know everyone is tired of Fluke and Dorothy. I have covered that side of it in quite detail. It’s time to take a look at the other side… the side that followed that group of nuts from Websleuths to LISK.com to Catching LISK and finally to my blogs, where they would all scatter. We can’t discus that side without bringing up NERD or PS149. And right here I did bring them up. I had a few things posted here that I had figured out. Some of it was wrong, but enough of it was dead on. Since this post has been sitting around all year this is part that I decided to take out since NERD contacted me a few weeks back and came clean. Yea, lots of what I had written here was right on. Thank you to those who helped me along the way. NERD, I wanted desperately to know who you were. Now I do, so there is no need to go on any more about this. I’ll just say PS149 is not Hackett, as if I even have to say that, lol. I really don’t think it matters much to anyone, other than MM7, I think I was the only one concerned with who NERD was. And that was mainly because I thought they could be some help figuring out some of the Websleuthers involved in the game aspect of this. All in all the stuff we talked about leads right to where I knew it all really began. Websleuths! And that’s just where this post went next:
When I first started blogging about LISK.com, people told me I should check out Websleuths. They said that’s where Fluke and MM7’s games really started. From there, feelings on Websleuths were mixed. Some said it was just as bad as LISK.com with clicky commenters who pounce on ya if you ain’t part of their group. They said it was full of self-righteous trolls and so-called insiders playing all three sides of the coin (front, back, and the circular rim). While others told me that Websleuths was full of good people just trying to help and that it’s moderators do their best keeping out the trolls. Both sides were right. Although it would be a while before I would finally check out Websleuths and see this for myself. You see at the time there had been some issues at Websleuths. There was an inner fight between the sites owners. As well as an issue with some of its sleuths sleuthing each other, which resulted in a handful of them (including Flukeyou and MM7) being kicked off the site. The site also went through some operational changes making it only possible to read on the site if you made an account for it. Just knowing that much about it kept me away. I had enough dealing with the screen names of LISK.com and Catching LISK, I had no intentions of going through countless more on another site.
I would eventually make a Websleuths account though. And yes, there are some good people there and yes some of the moderators try to keep the troll games away. But it’s no different from any other place on the internet and has seemed to fall way to catfish and sock puppets. I know a lot of you are gonna argue with me on this point. Tell me that Websleuths has helped solve cases, identify Johns and Janes, and gives arm-chair detectives a chance to get together and help. All very true, but doesn’t change what I just said about it. Let me remind you… Jennifer G. is on Websleuths. Flukeyou was on Websleuths, where he made such a mess they kicked him off. Cristin and Candyce were on Websleuths, were kicked off, but they both told me they just made new accounts and got back on. So this is the types of sleuths setting the stage for its threads. And although I have really only checked out the LISK threads, I am told this kind of stuff goes on in other threads as well.
And before you try to say that’s just a small handful who were quickly kicked out (and then went right back in), let me move on with this post and get to the good stuff. The Websleuthers who may have connections to Dorothy. They may have been some of those screen names that followed over to Cristin’s blog, because it had a few Websleuthers there, that I’m sure of. They are definitely candidates for the nut gallery. And they are definitely playing the same types of games as Dorothy, Joe Jr, Jen, and Cristin.
Let’s start with To Kill A Mockingbird, aka kitty katy, aka Alice Cooper aka Oak Beach, aka Chris Lovejoy, and countless other screen names. You don’t know how long I have been wanting to deal with you. You seem more bi-polar than anyone I know involved in this, and let’s not forget, we had the likes of Nancy, Son Of Man, and Dorothy Price Hill. You outshine them all! And it’s not just the multiple screen names you use all over social media. One minute you are helping John Ray and the next you are trashing him. You claim you were friends with Mari but you call the Gilberts liars. You claim to have all sorts of inside information that can prove what really happened to Shannan, but every time you put something up, you quickly yank it down. You go around telling everybody how wrong they are, but what have you done? You say you’ve done so much and I agree. You’ve done plenty to fuck with people. Well, we are about to get way up in your shit sweetie. I’m pretty sure you saw it coming though. I definitely have left some clues. Welcome to the blog TKAMB!
Now most of you don’t know this, but TKAMB sometimes works with another Websleuths member you know as Hawkshaw. They make quite the dynamic duel. Hawkshaw, I’d welcome you to the blog, but I already did that up above.
Who else? Hoot Owl? Yea, what’s your connection to Dorothy? Or is it TKAMB? I can’t shake the feeling you are one of them or know one of them… You definitely like to play games like one of them. Why? Feel free to answer anytime. Oh, and welcome to the blog! Though I have a feeling I also already welcomed you above.
That leaves us with MCME. I have been watching you for a while. You claim to be an Oak Beach insider… and that may just be true. All the more reason for me to keep my eye on you. A few names have come up on who you might be (It’s great how you all sleuth each other, it makes it so much easier for me). One of those names is a familiar one and keeps coming up. I’m not gonna drop it though… I’m trying hard not to be a name dropper like Dorothy up there in that email. Besides when you let enough time pass, most of you out yourselves or one of your buddies do it for ya. MCME, you have said (wrote) a few things over the years that have me wondering about you. Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t it you who said you walked your dog in the marsh where Shannan would later be found? Didn’t you say she wasn’t there? I find these comments hard to believe. And if I’m right and you did make those comments, well that just makes me wonder if you are connected to any of these other nuts. If I am remembering wrong and you did not make those comments, please let me know, I don’t want to be putting out wrong information. Either way, welcome to the blog!
As I sit here reading over this post and coming up with some clever way to end it, something like I’m here to remind you that bullshit does not pay (it’s from the Eminem song above, don’t tell me you didn’t listen to it, go, listen to it) Anyways, as I sit here looking at this post I know that once I hit the “Publish” button I am opening up a whole new can of worms. Heading deeper into that rabbit hole. Peeling another layer off that onion.
I’m my own worst enemy.
I’ve become so numb. But you know me, I always end up pulling it together. So let’s pull it together, together.
Can I get an encore, do you want more? I hope so, ’cause I’m ready to go one more round.
On December 27th 2013 I posted an Eminem video (The Monster) and Zero’s World was born. Eminem not only became the first thing posted each new year of the blog, but Eminem became the theme music to which I wrote most of the posts and hopefully the soundtrack to which you read the blog. Some people still don’t get why Eminem. I’ve explained this before and probably will again, like all things dealing with this place, it’s complicated. The important part is we have made it to year 4 and Eminem is here for us. I chose a hybrid track to put this last year into motion and it fits, since this blog is a bit of a hybrid blog. Mixing it all up.
I know along the way many of you thought I was shady. And with some of you the feeling was mutual. But as a close friend of mine would say, “You got me fucked up!”. I’m not really all that shady, in fact I’m as sunny as that California state I go on and on about. Ok maybe not that sunny, but definitely as bright no matter how dark you may find me. (Is anyone enjoying this wordplay?) Hopefully this final year of posts will show this in a better light. And some of you might start, seeing me less as the shady one and more of the Doc type. I’m not talking about Hackett either. I mean Doc like as in the one in charge or the guy who will put you on the couch (‘Member? Yea, I ‘member).
So, with all that being said (wordplay and all), Get your ass up for the doctor
One more time, get your ass up for the doctor, Come on now, here we go, cliff hanger, it’s another club banger. Got you hangin’ on the edge of your seat.
Yep, here we go again. I’m gonna do what I do best. Get under the skin of the trolls and the righteous. Make you all think twice before you decide to fuck with another human being. I know, that’s a lot to ask for, but I’m gonna do my best to get us all there. I know there will continue to be naysayers and haters, but you had your chance. Times up, games over, you lose, I win ’bout to show these knuckleheads how to do this here. Yep, just call me turnip, because I’m ’bout to turn it up! Sorry, that was bad. You get me though, we are ready to actually go somewhere.
Ooh yeah, new year, next phase, begin, Look who’s got you goin’ crazy again. I do bring out the crazy in people, don’t I? Just look what I have done to our little loud mouth Fluke. He’s almost pathetic to look at now. Minus the almost. LOL, did I do that? Did I help make you irrelevant? Give it up Junior, I’m a trend, I set one every time I’m in, I go out and just come back full circle again. You a fad, that means your something that we already had. But once you’re gone, you don’t come back, too bad. Ha, ha!
That goes for all the loud mouth nuts. Dorothy, MM7, Jen, and all the others I haven’t really gotten to… yet. You’re off the map now, radar can’t even find you. We stay on the grind, you slip, we out-grind you. You walk around mad, you let your anger blind you. We walk around just playin’ the violin behind you.
I love that line because it’s funny but also very true. While so many of you were bitching about me and my blogs and the good apples who found something here, we have been playing that mocking violin, exposing your blind anger and madness. It’s been quite a journey so far. This can’t go on forever though. Like I said, you had your chance, now enough with all the pissin’ and moanin’, whinin’ and bitchin’. Sit and observe, listen, you’ll learn if you pay attention.
Now can I get an encore, do you want more? I hope so, because I can’t do it without you. So for one last time I need y’all to roar! I know I can count on a few of you to give this place a proper send off and finally get to the point. I bet some of you are saying, well get going, Now what the hell are you waitin for? I hear ya, but we got to do this right. Because after me, there shall be no more. Ok, that might be taking the whole narcissistic, arrogance a step to far, but I bet there won’t be anyone quite like me. So for one last time, nigga make some noise (that one’s for you Dorothy). But really, everyone, it’s time to speak up or shut up. So all my people on the left, all my people on the right, scream one last time.
Funny, that right when I decided this blog had outlived its purpose it started getting attention again. Nerd and PS149 have returned (and yes, that is the “real” PS149), links to the blog are popping up in different places, some certain Websleuthers are dropping my name (by the way, comments like “Go ask your friend zero” do not go unnoticed, I have eyes everywhere! LMAO). It’s getting crazy out there again, the buzz is tremendous, we drop you all to sense it. I don’t gotta promote it for you to know that doc is off the benches. And I seem to have put together a pretty good team of my own. Well better than Dorothy’s crazy team anyways. Just call us doody, ’cause we da shit. Or as Linda once so awesomely put it, “we are dope, you’re just dopes”. You see, we keep the party rockin’ off the henges.
We ain’t showin’ off, we just goin’ off popular consensus.
Still my critics say that Doc is soft, Doc is talk, Doc is all washed up. To which I reply: Knock it off Who the fuck is Doc impressin’?
Doc is this, Doc is that, you got the wrong impression. You must be on the cock of Doc, cause Doc left you all guessin’. No more guessing. It’s time for everyone to stop guessing. It’s time for everyone to just say what ya know. But know what ya say, because I’m here… no we are here (remember when I used to criticize everyone for saying “we” all the time, when they just meant “me”, then I started using “we” in jest, then I realized there really was a bad “we” out there, and now there is actually a good “we”.
So DJ take the needle and just drop it on the record (what)
We gon’ have this motherfucker hoppin’ in a second (bump bump)
That’s why we always save the best cut last, to make you scratch and itch for it like fresh cut grass.
You can try to deny it but I know you all are jonesing for me, for us, for this. So here it is, back one last time to satisfy your addiction. It’s time the war was won once and for all. By the way Dorothy (and I know you are hanging on every word) you can declare “war” on Zero’s World, it won’t change the facts that we already won most of the battles. Cause we done swam with the sharks, wrestle with alligators. We took on Flukyou’s slander, Cristin’s lies, Dorothy’s delusions, Nancy’s insanity, McKee’s misdirection, Jen’s cryptic course, Son of Man’s crazy conspiracies, a hand full of self-important Websleuthers, a ton of sock puppets, as well as racist and bigots from all over Facebook and Twitter. And we won each time. No one wanted any of this, lol. In fact I bet a bunch of you are still worried about what you say out there. Posting then deleting, afraid it’s gonna show up in a post. And it probably will.
Some of you out there don’t want to admit it, but I think you are kind of a scared of this place. You see what can be done here. We go toe to toe, tit for tat, and we can play the back and forth all day. We can outwit, outplay, outlast!(speaking of which, did anyone else watch last season of Survivor? It was a good one) Point is, we took it all on and we are still standing. Most would probably agree, much, much wiser.
When I finally write that last post a year from now, I hope I have made some more new friends, I know I will have a few new enemies. Hopefully most will see through it all and realize some things are not so simple, some things aren’t always what they seem. But I know for some of you that’s just not possible. No matter what I say or do, no matter what is shown to you, you are gonna always see me as the “bad guy”. Every step that I take is another mistake to you (Caught in the undertow just caught in the undertow) And every second I waste is more than I can take…
Everybody sing along with me:
I’ve become so numb I can’t feel you there
I’ve become so tired so much more aware
I’m becoming this all I want to do
Is be more like me and be less like you
Man, how that rings true to me. I’ve been accused of many things since I first came across (and started blogging about) LISK.com and Catching LISK, but the ones that say I’m no better than Fluke or Dorothy or that my blog is as bad as MM7’s blog, those hit too close to the mark. To think I might have become as bad as those I spoke out against, well, that’s something I can’t let happen. Yes, it may just be an elaborate way to show how we all get sucked in. How the bullied become the bully, the sane become crazy. How the internet can twist us all. Yes it may have gotten a little out of control at times… But I can’t become this.
So let’s pull it all together… together.
Here we go… Hands up for the grand finale! And keep them raised, this is gonna be another roller coaster of a ride.
Now can I get an encore, do you want more?
So for one last time I need y’all to roar!
One last time I need y’all to roar…
And when I say “Hey Lady”, I mean you Dorothy Price Hill. I haven’t had much to say about any of you in the nut gallery lately. The posts have moved away from most of you because most of you have learned not to come back and step in the same shit you just finally got cleaned off your shoe (yes that’s an Eminem paraphrase and a shoe idiom, you know how I love shoe idioms, but an Eminem shoe idiom is the best). But for some reason Dorothy, you like “stepping in it”:
I guess Dorothy didn’t like my “Crazies With Guns” post. I did mention her and Nancy in it, as well as her dead friend John, but really Dorothy, is that all you got out of the post? “Zero attacked me!” That’s incredibly sad. Reread it Dot Girl, the post isn’t about you.
Oh well, I know how you long for my embrace. So let me pull you in close as we continue our dance.
Dorothy once again returns to the Shannan’s memorial page to disrespect it with lies and unrelated hoopla. But I’ll bite… Hey Dorothy, what happened in upstate New York? And more important, what does it have to do with me? Don’t worry I don’t expect an answer. Two witnesses? Are these new witnesses or part of the many you claim are talking to LE about me? Yes, so many with so much to say about zero and yet no one but you putting these lies out there. Yes lies. There are no witnesses Dorothy. It’s just this weird turrets you have with me. Let’s take a trip down memory lane:
You know Dorothy, it tickles me pink knowing I get under your skin. But you are chasing shadows. You and your buddy Cristin (MM7) looked so hard for something to use against me and came up with nothing. But that didn’t stop ya from making things up, huh. Calling me a criminal and a spouse abuser… that’s wrong. No worries here though, I think most readers get that the things you accuse others of are the things that fill your own closet, Dorothy.
You see Dorothy, your neighbors, friends, and others who know you have lined up to tell me all about you. True things, no need to make stuff up when it comes to you Dorothy:
“She has been arrested TWICE in the past 18 months…for violating her orders of protection, with both her brother-in-law Geoff and her ex husband Chris Wolff Both times her children went to stay overnight with their youth pastor at her church.”
I’ve been told that the music I listen to is bad for me. It’s too angry:
LMFAO! Yes, some of my stalked stalkers really don’t like the music I listen too. I believe SOM said something like rap music causes kids to get guns and shoot people and Madonna’s music causes girls to become sluts. I’m paraphrasing and since he is no longer on Facebook I can’t go and read he exact words… but that’s close enough to what he was implying.
Well let’s take see what I’m listening to right now:
Holly shit!! Maybe there is some truth to what my oppressed, obsessers are saying.
There’s no telling what I’m gonna write about next… or who.
The music has taken over… all self-control has been relinquished to the demons of hip hop, punk rock, metal, and pop.
And no one is safe!
I feel a split coming on…
Dealing with online crazies can be harmful to your sanity… just saying.
Some of you just don know how this place can get…
Oh you know, but you actin’ like you don’t know…
Time to re-up.