The Truth About The CCC Part 3

If you read part 2 of this CCC trilogy, you know you were supposed to forget all about part 1. So you probably forgot about DPH and MM7 looking into UG and CCC and coming out with tales of Hackett and Dorothy’s ex husband. Tales of how Hackett and Dorothy’s ex were part of The CCC as well as playing some copy cat murder game against each other over some jealousy thing. You also probably forgot about all the screen names claiming to be part of The CCC coming to my blog and giving me no choice but to look deeper into UG and The CCC. And that’s good that you don’t remember any of that. It’s not needed to see the truth about The CCC. You can read part 2 and go away with what is FACT and can be proven by their own posts and comments on Utopia Guide.

So if you are happy with that, I suggest you skip the rest of this post.

You see the more you look into The CCC and UG, the more you start to question this “harmless” group of “hobbyist”. If you have decided to continue reading, you might want to remember the 1st post again. I know, I told you to forget it and you needed to forget it for part 2, but part 1 and 2 are both needed for part 3. All 3 parts will show how the mythology of The CCC grew and spread.

And just for the record, I’m not saying anyone from The CCC is LISK or that any of them are guilty of criminal activity, well other that the obvious. Again, these are things others who have looked at UG and The CCC have said and passed around. I was not the first to look into this and I’m sure I wont be the last. What I came up with is in part 2. The solid stuff that really don’t show much, other than the Morrie guy is stuck in the middle somewhere. Still there is so much out there that (like everything else) don’t add up. Here we go.

Wait false start, first I have to mention Shady Al’s.

magic ccc lingere bar

Since I am not an LI Native (heh heh) please bear with me. When I first read that The CCC hung out in a bar called “Shady” I lost it. Any long time readers will totally get this. It’s an Eminem thing. And most may wonder why I even mention it. Trust me, it’s not just for a silly Eminem joke. Though, I can’t help it, I find it funny. But this blog always looks at things with multiple eyes (because it is read with multiple eyes), and some of you know who started posting Eminem lyrics before I came along (and it wasn’t Fluke like some might believe). I’ve mentioned it before and will again, there will be a last Eminem post before we are done, for those who still don’t get why this sometimes seems like an Eminem tribute blog.

Oh, I strayed quite a bit, or did I. Let’s wait and see.

Other than the fact this Morrie guy was involved in threatening comments about Amber right before she went missing, there is no connection between those in The CCC and the Gilgo Beach Murders. And yet there are those out there who claim if we knew who some of The CCC members were, there might be more of a connection than Morrie’s baseball bat threats. In part 1 I already talked about MM7 and DPH saying Hackett was Magic from The CCC. I also showed in part 1, that that was highly unlikely, since Magic was said to have died in 2010. MM7 and DPH had also said Brewer was part of The CCC:

mm7 brewer is lw

The thought of Brewer being part of The CCC is definitely intriguing. But going by the things “lightweight” has said about himself, I’m not too sure he is Brewer:

wolf lightweight on families

Married with 3 kids in 2008. Yea, that’s not Brewer. There was also talk of Flukeyou being in the CCC with Brewer. That may come from comments like these:

lightweight to wolf rusian girl

But just because one of the CCC members has a thing for Russian girls does not make it Fluke. In fact the same reasons lightweight isn’t Brewer is the same reason it can’t be Fluke. And as I said in part 1, I looked into Wolf5958 (simple google search you all can do) and he ain’t Flukeyou either.

So there seems to be no real proof Brewer or Fluke were part of The CCC… but there is more talk about such proof, well at least when it comes to Brewer:

ws jb ccc

There are other posts like this on Websleuths where it is claimed that Brewer told people he was part of The CCC. But again, no actual proof that I can see. Still the thought that Brewer may be part of The CCC is intriguing. I said that. But is it true?

See how this could quickly became another tale (tail) being chased around in circles. Let me add to it.

magic dead 1 15 2010

Yes, back to Magic. There is something about this (other than the screen name “deadguy”) that bothers me. “I got the news from SCPD”. What is that all about? Why would SCPD inform someone on UG about the death of another person on UG? Is “deadguy” friends with the cop who told him about Magic? Is the cop a member on UG? I don’t mean to confuse it any further… but it just bothers me.

Maybe this post isn’t a good idea. Maybe I should stop why I’m ahead. But you all read the comment on part 1 from Emily:

emily on ccc

This has to be addressed. First off I don’t buy it. I believe the person who left this comment wants me to believe they are this person:

real emily

And as I said, I don’t buy it, for one second. My LISK blog received bogus comments like this back when I first brought up The CCC, but we will get to all that. There’s a lot we can dissect in the comment on UG by the real Emily. But what I really take away from it, was that she is saying MM7 contacted her about all this, claiming she was an “investigative reporter”. And Emily didn’t like it. Damn, she probably won’t like being part of another WordPress blog, I’m sorry Emily, but don’t blame me, blame the “Emily” who left the comment on Part 1. Assuming it wasn’t you, and as I said, I don’t believe it was. I will get to who I think it is. Patience.

So this “Emily” (the one who commented on part 1) really wants to express that “she” knows most of the guys at UG and they are “NICE” men. We may have a difference of opinion of what is “NICE”. I have read plenty at UG and “NICE” isn’t the word I would use. But let’s just look at what was being said there about the LISK case:

UG on lisk.JPG

” it’s getting interesting”, “I hope everyone has their nose clean”. If they were such “NICE” men, they wouldn’t need to worry about “clean” noses, no?

ug magic not dead

When someone brings up coming forward with information lightweight brings up Seeker. The lol tells us it’s a joke, but since I have done some reading there, it’s not very funny. They also brought up Magic. Another joke, I suppose. I definitely don’t think this means Magic isn’t really dead, but I bet those who wanted to believe Magic was Hackett read this that way. The truth is, some of those at UG loved to poke at Magic. There was some real hatred towards Magic from some of them. Mainly from Lightweight and Teps. They would play these story games on UG where each person would continue the story being told with each new comment, and lightweight just couldn’t help bringing Magic into each one:

lightweight magic dis1

lightweight magic dis2

lightweight magic dis3

lightweight magic dis4

lightweight magic dis5

lightweight magic dis6

That may be hard for some of you to understand what you are reading there. First off you have to read from bottom to top. Anyone who has read at UG knows how confusing that can get. Second, it’s not whole stories, just parts of different ones where lightweight felt the need to bring Magic into it. As you can see by the small portions, you probably don’t want to read their little story games anyways.

How many of you find UG’s story games similar to the types of games played at the “Drunken Stepfather” site. Yea, me too. But I’m not trying to say UG is connected to DS or Lake City Quiet Pills. Don’t go blaming me for mixing the 2 mythologies. I’m just saying, like minds, maybe?

Alright, what I will say about all this is the dislike of Magic does circle around Morrie. Yes, it all comes back to Morrie:

ws ig on ccc1

There that sums quite a bit up, don’t it? I was still not reading at Websleuths when I first looked into The CCC and UG, I could have saved myself a lot of time and trouble if I had been.

So did Morrie harass Magic? Was Magic some kind of narc? The myhology only growing.

If you want, you can go and read for yourself what UG was talking about when bodies started being discovered off Oak Beach:

http://utopiaguide.com/forums/threads/4-bodies-found-on-li-2-could-be-cl-girls.42531/page-6

As I said before, it’s strange that they don’t mind anyone being able to read all the stuff they post on UG. And it’s eerie reading there. So if you didn’t click and read, I understand. To just point one thing out I will post a couple more comments from that thread:

ug on lisk2

ug on lisk1

“NICE” guys or not, I don’t see The CCC helping, even if they did know one of their members could be involved. Like with all the other corruption in Long Island, no one wants their own “Dirt” looked into.

I really should stop now. But that comment:

emily on ccc

Is this the same Emily who was on UG? They sure do want me to think so. Maybe it is. But if it’s not, there can really only be one person behind it:

cynthia on ccc

Don’t they sound a little alike? I know who wrote that. That’s NERD. He admitted writing it, just as he admitted to being PS149 and Seaslug44. I find the 2 comments so similar that even if the new one is from Emily, I would have to wonder if NERD knew her in some way. Which would be a whole other kind of thing. And this is already very murky.

So, for me, I’m gonna assume that NERD wrote that (I know all about assuming, we’ve talked about this before, and I’m more than happy to make an ass of myself to show the ass in others, you know this).  To understand this you only need to know how NERD likes to involve himself in UG stuff. Back when screen names from UG were popping up on MM7’s and my blog NERD was part of the games:

teps ccc lisk blog

lightweight and teps

I don’t know if those are the Teps and Lightweight from UG. Because when it comes to NERD, you just can’t know. He uses many different IPs. (though still was partial a few for a while) and NERD loves to have ongoing conversations with himself with different screen names. Even if those are the real CCC guys, I am pretty sure these ones are NERD:

puppetmaster

sirmixalot

Even if these are other Websleuthers or UG members, or friends of NERD, it don’t matter, I know for a fact these are NERD’s:

nerd as genius at mm7

nerd as amd on UG

nerd pom

And yes, as I said, this one is NERD as well:

cynthia on ccc

Where to even start… well, NERD chose Genius as one of the UG members to pose as. Unless NERD is Genius. I doubt it. But Genius is on UG, one of the nastier members in my opinion. I wonder why NERD picked that screen name to bring to life in the comments of my blog.

Damn. this is getting long, but I know some of you will appreciate all this. Some of you are already lost, I’m sure. I do apologise for that. I also bet at least one person does not appreciate any of this. I do not apologise for that, you had your chance to clear things up.

So Nerd, aka PS149, aka Seaslug44 had a lot to do with The CCC and UG being brought up. He definitely was part of all the hoopla that got me to go read at UG. But back then I could only guess NERD was PS149, and I had no idea he was Seaslug44, so I would have no idea why NERD knew so much about UG and The CCC. I still don’t, well other than mythology and NERD’s not so believing attempt to explain it all to me. But I’m getting a little ahead of myself. You know how I do that.

Those from Websleuths probably already know where I am going, because it was discussed there when Seaslug44 became one of the many Websleuth members who cross over to POI for other Websleuth members. Because this was found:

sealug44 ug profile

Yep, Seaslug44 was a member at UG, since 2005 I should add. Now this has been explained in many diferent ways by Seaslug44, most he admits were lies. Let’s start with the ones he told other Websleuthers about how he made that account to help find someone, or something like that. Here I’ll let him explain it:

nerd on ss44 on ug to ws

So NERD, or should I say SS44 was called out for having an account on UG, and instead of saying it isn’t him (which he claims it really wasn’t), he makes up some elaborate story to explain why he might have made an account up. All this to cover up a more elaborate story about a crazy ex-wife. But this is where I stared to wonder how honest NERD was being with me. We had talked about a lot of things, and I could understand and believe most of what he was saying. This wasn’t adding up to me.

As I said, the Seaslug44 account was made in 2005, which when I brought up, he acted surprised:

nerd on wife ug

He didn’t realize when the “fake” account was made? He wanted me to believe that he got accused of being a serial killer because someone had made a fake account on a “hobbyiest” site that he did all sorts of searching into, but he never noted when the “fake” account was made? Yea, that don’t seem right. Plus he wants me to believe that his wife was mad at him back in 2005 and made this “Fake” account to screw with him. But he didn’t  even know about it until the thing was brought up on Websleuths. Which by the way he decided to make up a lie about because his wife (who he was still with at that point) could be on Websleuths messing with him. If it’s true, I’m sorry, but I just can’t buy all that. Why would his wife use UG to get at him? Why would she know about such a site. And if she or anyone else made the account in 2005 to mess with him, why did he not even know about it till after it was brought up on Websleuths many years later? NERD’s explanations started getting harder to accept. And then of course I wrote the post about NERD being PS149 and Seasslug44 and I didn’t hear from him anymore. I understood, so I didn’t pester him with more questions, even though his answers on the CCC  and UG stuff just didn’t make sense to me.

Then as I started thinking about making the CCC posts, UG went down. I’m still not sure why it was down, but it was down for quite a while. I had to get some other posts out, but The CCC posts were building in my head. And right before I started putting it all down, UG came back up. Which I thought was great because now there would be references for what I was writing about if anyone wanted to search it out themselves. Which is always best… don’t take my word for anything, go see it all for yourself and make your own decisions. But as I said before, when UG came back it changed just a little. Some comments about The CCC seemed to be gone and the Seaslug44 account, that had changed too:

seaslug44 UG pic

I don’t know who that is, but it ain’t NERD.

Strange, there hadn’t been any comments or interaction from that account on UG since this:

seaslug44 ug

Nothing else since 2005. And the picture and info had always been blank:

sealug44 ug profile

But now, years later, and not long after I speak with NERD, aka PS149, aka, Seaslug44 the UG goes down and returns with an updated SS44 account:

new seaslug ug pic

Weird, right? I’m not saying this means anything. I don’t know if someone asked Slinky Bender to change or remove stuff, or maybe it’s just all unrelated coincidences. All I do know is I decided to see what NERD thought about it:

nerd block1

nerd block 2

And with that I was blocked. Fine. Just remember you came to the blog with your games NERD, all I did was figure them out. Go ahead and think I’m the bad guy. You are in good company. You don’t have to explain anything to anyone, but these questions are there.

Oh, and if you are behind the new “Emily” comment, NERD, WTF? Do you really think a third go at all this is a good idea? Just come clean and apologize for once again coming to my blog and thinking I’m still playing, when I said long ago, I’m done playing.

Wow, I really did go too far here. We really should have just stuck with part 2. A little late now though.

When it comes to The CCC there might not be much more than mythology. But that mythology is very thick.

whereitat ccc like brothers

 

The Truth About The CCC Part 1

Over the years a lot has been said about a group of men in Long Island called The CCC. With all the stories floating around, it has become somewhat of a myth. I think it’s time that myth was cleared up.

Finding the whole story behind The CCC can be a little difficult. There are lots of rumors and hearsay out there and it’s all scattered. The best place to get the truth is to read it directly at the site The CCC originated: Utopia Guide. I think most people know by now about Utopia Guide, it is a site where Johns, meaning sex trade clients, discuss what they call their  “hobby”. That “hobby” being paying for sex.

I will get more into Utopia Guide as this post grows… but for now I should point out, that Utopia Guide was down for a little while recently. I noticed that when the site came back up, some of The CCC stuff was gone. That will make this a little harder to get at the root of The CCC… but as we all know, once it’s on the internet, it can be found.

Since DPH is where I first got some kind of story about The CCC, that’s where we will start:

dph ccc lie

WTF?!? Dorothy wrote that back in January, and it is complete Dorothy Dog Shit! The thing is, she knows this is a lie. Don’t you Dorothy? I mean you know you made this up, don’t you? Again I have to ask, those around Dorothy in everyday life… is she crazy and you don’t care? Do you just not see it? Does she cover up the crazy? Or is she doing this on purpose? Which ever it is, and I’m starting to wonder if we will ever really know for sure, her comment above about The CCC mixed in with Fluke “neighbor agenda” and “Burke propaganda” is exactly why I decided to finally put this post together. It’s crap, and it makes an already complicated thing, more complicated. So please, try again Dorothy:

jerry dph ccc

Well, that’s closer to the story you and MM7 first told me… let’s just cut to the chase:

https://mm7vslisk.wordpress.com/?s=the+ccc

That may be a little confusing, some of it is comments left on UG about a guy with the screen name magicfingersny. I believe MM7 wanted to show proof that The CCC existed, because there were a few out there trying to convince her it was a joke, a made up thing. On her blog people using screen names from UG straight up told her The CCC was a hoax:

wolf5958 mm7 blog

I should point out DPH was convinced Wolf5958 was her ex husband. I did a quick google search and decided it was not her ex husband. In fact I’m guessing anyone looking into The CCC looked all into this screen name… they have enough of a trail online to do so. This was one of the many times I questioned how much of the false information being put out there was on purpose. I mean Dorothy and MM7 had to have found everything I did, I found everything they did. So they had to have known this wolf was not Dorothy’s ex husband. And therefore connecting Dorothy’s ex husband to UG and The CCC by a screen name that they knew wasn’t him? I’m just saying. What am I saying? Oh yea, I don’t think wolf5958 from UG was Dorothy’s ex husband, that’s what I’m saying.

Still… all the screen names from UG popping up on MM7’s blog didn’t help with the confusion. Which obviously was the point, which is why I believe they showed up on my blog as well:

teps ccc lisk blog

teps lisk blog

Man, I was all so new to these games back then. And I had no idea if these were people from UG or just trolls. Back then I just figured it was people wanting me to look at UG and The CCC. I mean why bring attention to themselves if it was really them? But now I wonder… could some of them been the real UG screen names they claimed?

lightweight and teps

Either way it got me reading UG (thanks, a lot), and there I could see where DPH and MM7 got their story from:

teps magic ccc 2008

So this is what MM7 had posted on her blog, and it does seem to show that there was a CCC and this guy Magic was kicked out of it. The reason why seems to stem from Magic posting on UG about girls without really using their services. In hindsight, the story of Magic’s fall from The CCC is worth looking into… but back then, I didn’t know it. What I did know, was the story DPH and MM7 got out of all this was crazy.

If you don’t know the story, this is basically it:

4 men, who were part of group called The CCC were responsible for the AC4 murders. Not together, but 4 guys each took turns killing 1 of the 4 girls. Then years later they get in a fight with a member of this little group, Magic, and kick him out of the group. But Magic knows about the murders they each committed and is determined to get even with them. So Magic then goes and kills 4 girls, the GB4, wanting to make it look like his old buddies were responsible.

I swear, that’s the story DPH and MM7  were telling. That was what they came up with after looking into The CCC and UG. I blame television.

So, as I already wrote, DPH thought her ex husband was in The CCC. Dorothy also thought Fluke might have been in The CCC. Dorothy and MM7 also believed Brewer was part of the group:

mm7 brewer is lw

I already said that I don’t believe Dorothy’s ex husband was part of the CCC, but Fluke? Maybe… and Brewer? Interesting thought, huh? We will have to come back to that. Another person they connected to The CCC was Hackett. In fact they believed that guy Magic was Hackett. This of course fitted everything Fluke was selling both DPH and MM7 about Hackett. Out of all of them, this one is definitely not true. Magic couldn’t be Hackett, because Magic is dead:

magic dead 1 15 2010

And quite a few people comment about it:

magic memorial1

fuhecu2 magic stonehedge

 

billy s rip magic marc

When I saw all this (again, back then I was new to many parts of this) I couldn’t understand why DPH or MM7 would try to say Magic was Hackett. They were getting their information from UG, and they had to have known Magic was dead and therefore not Hackett. In fact I couldn’t figure out why they would think this was connected to LISK at all. I wrote the whole thing off at first. Which was easy, because I really didn’t like reading at UG. But they weren’t the only ones mentioning The CCC, so as with everything else I kept chasing it.

At the end of the day (I really hate that phrase and use it mockingly) The CCC and UG seemed to have plenty to look into without pretending Hackett and Dorothy’s ex were people they obviously weren’t. I also discovered you didn’t have to come up with some made for TV story about a serial killer copycatting his 3 serial killer friends to connect The CCC to the LISK case.

To be continued…

SSDD

I guess the best way to start is to explain what SSDD is for those who don’t know. It’s a phrase I’m sure most of you have used before. “Same Shit/Different Day”.

Simple enough, right? Yea, nothing is ever simple here.

Long time readers may remember that I have three favorite authors. Douglas Adams, Clive Barker, and Stephen King. I came into each of them in that order… after reading everything there was by Douglas Adams, I started reading Clive Barker. When I ran out of Clive I moved on to Stephen King. I have yet to run out of Stephen King…

I bring this all back up because a few months ago I went to my personal library, which is full of many different subjects, both fiction and non-fiction, but yes, the bulk of it is Stephen King books. The movie “Dreamcatcher” was gonna be on and I wanted to watch it. It was a book I had not read yet. So I got the book out and started to read.

I read in different speeds… very fast and super slow… I can spend hours reading one day and then go a few weeks before having time to do so. But when I really get into a Stephen King story, I read every chance I get. It took me a few weeks, which, for a book just under 600 pages, is not fast by any means, but in my world where I can set a book down for 2 weeks before having time to pick it up again, that’s pretty fast.

The book is a sort of alien horror story. A pretty good one. I found parts of the book some of King’s scariest. Most would say “It” and “Salem’s Lot” is king at his scariest, and I would agree. These and a few others actually are books that cause nightmares. There are parts of “Dreamcatcher” that also do exactly that. There is a bathroom scene that is truly horrifying and disgusting.

If you have seen the movie, you know about the bathroom scene and SSDD, but trust me, I read it and then watched the movie right after I finished. Like most book to movies… you really have to read it to get the full experience. The movie was pretty good for the first half… but just lost site of the story in the second half. I understand why it went a different way, but it really did become a different story by the end.

So, yea, if you saw the movie and liked it or saw it and thought it was missing something… read the book. The missing stuff is there.

Anyways, without spoiling too much for those who have not seen or read it, SSDD is discussed by the main characters throughout the course of their lives. At first they don’t understand exactly what it means. Something they heard the older boys say.  In a simple explanation (very simple) they come to understand it in different parts. Same Shit… yea, that’s a given… but at one point Different Day comes along and so much seems to change… in the end though it’s a phrase meant to be together. SSDD.

I’m not gonna speak for Stephen King or the characters in the book, but I will explain what I took out of their dealings with SSDD.

We get stuck in repetition, the same shit all the time. It’s the way it’s designed, so really it’s no one’s fault. I mean we eat and sleep and do all sorts of things in monotonous repetition. So to get stuck in Same Shit is just life. But at times change is there… if you read my very first post on another blog that seems so far from this one, I wrote that evolution is a part of creation. We create to evolve and we evolve to create. Different Day is waiting for all of us who step out of our circles, realize we are our worst enemy and therefore you are the one who can make it all work out or not. You are in control of your own destiny.

Now I may be taking the whole thing further than needed. Again, that’s what I got out of it. On the simplest terms, Different Day can be seen as first time experience. It’s all the same shit, until those first come. Any first. First job, first love, first kiss, first child. SS is always punctuated with first time experiences that bring on the DD.

I hope I haven’t confused anyone yet, this post is just gearing up. I guess it doesn’t matter because in the end, the characters see it as one. SSDD, and sadly it is what everything becomes. SS becomes DD, DD becomes SS, but in the end, it’s all SSDD.

Are you still with me?

Another way to say it may be, “the more things change the more they stay the same”. But SSDD says that and a lot more. It’s kind of a discouraging way of looking at things… but that don’t mean it ain’t accurate.

Alright, that’s enough insight on SSDD. I bring it up because last summer, when I read “Dreamcatcher”, and I read all about SSDD, I saw fully how that described the Zero’s World experience … and here we are months later… SSDD.

To start we have to go back to my first blog here on Word Press, the one we fondly call “The Red & Black”. When I started that one I was searching for a DD. Looking to put a fun, uplifting blog up. A welcoming place that did not promote the “back n forth” you see all over the internet and social media. Though I wondered how long I’d be able to keep that up. Since I planned to blog about the “back n forth” and the way we misuse social media. If you have not read those early posts, please take some time and check them out. No matter how far we have come, I said it best in those firs few posts. I had planned on blogging about religion and politics and many other controversial subjects  that I knew could lead to the “back n forth”, but I hoped to try to handle it differently. To find away to preach without judgement. That went out the window early on unfortunately. I don’t know if there are many of you who have been reading since those early days (those of you who did and are still here… I fuckin’ love ya) but for those who weren’t here, this is what happened.

Cat-fishing had just become a big thing. The movie had been out and the TV show was just begging. There were stories of people faking Facebook accounts of whole families for now real reasons other than attention. A football player was in the news after being fooled by a guy pretending to be a girl. The football player actually thought of this person as his girlfriend and mentioned her on TV, when the guy with the fake account made it look like the football players fake girlfriend passed away.

I was really taken in by this strange new way people were using the internet to fuck with people. And here we are years later and it’s only gotten worse.

As I got ready to blog about all this I came across MM’7s blog. To me it seemed a weird sort of cat-fishing was going on in the comments of her blog. And after all these years we know how right I was. But I learned on MM7’s blog and all the other sites, blogs, and discussions related, they called these fake screen names and accounts “Sock-Puppets”.

I may be boring some of you, since I have kind of explained all this a few times over the years, but I feel the need to recap and fill in so everyone understands the ZW SSDD fully. I decided to put it all together in a 3 part post called “Catfish & Serial Killers“.

This of course led to my LISK Blog and what ever DD I was looking for, once I started my LISK blog I  defiantly found something completely different.

The LISK case it self is a repetitious beat of SSDD leading in endless circles. I think most of you know what I mean by that. I may not have understood SSDD back then, but I knew about circles and eventually I came to a place where I wanted to get out of the circles my LISK blog had led me too and try to move on to something else. In other words, leave the SS and find some DD.

Zero’s World was born.

Again, I have  written about all of this in much more detail many times before, so I won’t continue to bore those of you who have read this way too many times now. Point is, I started Zero’s World and SSDD became modus operandi.

As I began posting on Zero’s World I realized people had been looking into me. MM7 was the first to figure out who I was, but if you were reading back then, you know I had pretty much told her all about who I was, so her searching was just verification I guess. This led to a SSDD that still puzzles me:

Remember, this came from MM7 right around the time I started ZW 4 years ago. MM7 was trying to imply that me working in a haunt could be twisted into something. Which I said many times myself, after all my character is very scary, lol. We all know I have written about my haunt character many times and yes people have tried to twist it… SSDD.

But that’s not the SSDD I’m bringing up here. It seems that MM7 went straight for my wife when looking into me. I xed out my wife’s name. Not quite sure why, it’s not a secret, right?

Again, the names are xed out more in jest, we all know what they say. This is just one example of DPH spreading the word. SSDD!

I don’t know how often this goes on but more recently Maureen sent me something she said was sent to her:

Jesus Fuckin’ Christ! SSDD! I don’t know who sent that to Maureen. She sent it to me more as a taunt then a heads up. My guess was TKAMB, since she’s one of the latest out there bringing up my wife. But I know Ricky Dicky Keeys was sending her stuff about me, and so was Fireball, I think. It don’t matter… SSDD, and one as I said, that still puzzles me. Do you look for info about my wife to see what kind of woman would marry an asshole like me? Or is it like I have said before, a little jealousy. MM7, DPH and others have not had very good luck with men. And you just want to see who was lucky enough to find a good guy like me? LMFAO, that’s it, huh?

What really puzzles me about this, is why you feel the need to tell me, “I know your wife”. Good for you, SSDD fuckers! Ask MM7, Dorothy, Nancy, or Maureen what it’s like to deal with “Sassy”. Over the years I have told you all to leave her out of it, that was  for your own good.

Another SSDD that kind of puzzled me was the threats of violence. From MM7’s husband:

Before I go on I need to point out, I never brought him or MM7’s kids into it. MM7 brought her whole family into it, and others did go at her family, you can read back and see what I have written. Not to mention, I took much down at MM7’s request when others posted stuff about her husband. But let’s just be honest here, the guy is an abusive prick who thinks he can bully and beat people up to get his way. Oh and by the way, I checked, and he did not go to the owner of LISK.com nor was the site taken down because of Danny Boy.

I’ve had lots of threats over the years:

Jerry was all over that SSDD.

That’s Ricky Dicky Keeys, and as I pointed out back then, SSDD!

Yes lots of threats over the years, but that little fuck Malik Boodie, aka Ken Jones, aka The Shark really made an art out of it:

SSDD Malik! And don’t think I’ve forgotten about you, because I haven’t. Soon Malik… soon.

Yep, no matter who came along, Flukeyou, MM7, Jen G, DPH, Nancy, NERD, TKAMB, SOM, Ken Jones, Plot Master, Jerry, Maureen, Ricky Dicky Keeys, et cetera… each one was so much like the other.

SSDD!

 

Note from Zero: As you can see, the above was written back in March. I wasn’t quite happy with it. I wasn’t sure how to express the full feeling of SSDD running this blog has filled me with. It sat and sat and I almost thought I was just gonna skip it. But even with no real new posts other than some holiday stuff, the SSDD continues. So let me put a finish on this post, it needs to go up:

One SSDD that always makes me smile a little is how people praise my blog or say they love what I am doing until it catches up with them.

MM7 used to post links to my blogs and I commented quite a bit on hers. I was very lost at the beginning but I caught on. Anyways, MM7 would go back and forth liking what I was doing  to calling me a stalker. She liked it as long as it went with what she believed or should I say perceived.

Flukeyou and DPH also praised my blog at times, I think we all know what they think about it now.

A little while back I announced Seaslug44 was PS149 as well as NERD. In fact he was a shit load of screen names throughout the years. I know he didn’t want me to put it out there, but I felt it was important for people to know. There are quite a few things about Seaslug44 I think probably should be put out there. but I’ve held way back because we had started talking on Facebook and he seemed to want to clear up all the confusions… I was giving him the benefit of the doubt.  Even though early on NERD had some not so nice things to say about me and the blog under his many screen names (no need to go in to them at this moment), but he seemed to be liking me going at TKAMB and some of the others:

Yea Seaslug44 was fine with me exposing what others did but I guess he might be worried what all I might write about his own escapades. Even though I have not mentioned him on the blog since, I guess he decided to do as others and run away. I wrote him to ask him something recently and he did not reply. Which was strange because he had written me quite a bit before. I wrote him again and he blocked me.

LMFAO!

I noticed a few people blocking me lately. Like that will help.

Some of you make me laugh so much. You say how great I am and then say I’m an asshole. You love it when I go at others and expose them for what they have said and done, but you don’t like it when it is your turn. You see what this place is all about, and yet you come to me and start playing when you have no need too. You could have just stayed away.

But you can’t help yourselves. And one by one you become part of the SSDD.

And in the end each of you blame me… SSDD.

Oh well, we can’t escape it. It is what it is… SSDD.

Oh and by the way Dorothy Price Hill, I know you are mentioning me in your secret FB Group.

SSDD!

America! (Our Last 4th Of July Together)

Our last 4th of July! Damn, this year is flying by, I hope I have enough time to get to everything that we still have to get to.

Alright, before we all light up the barbecue and then the sky, let me get a little patriotic and set the mood (as if the Eminem song above wasn’t enough).

Back when this blog was in its early stages Flukeyou had something to say about the flag posted on this blog:

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I fucking crack up rereading some of the old comments, especially, Fluke’s. I explained back then that the flag he was talking about:

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was actually a skateboard logo, I didn’t create it and there was nothing unpatriotic about it. Still… a lot has changed around us in these last few years. It might not be so funny for people to think me or my blog is anti-American!

Damn, maybe “White America” wasn’t the right song to start this post with.

Seriously though, America is racist. And the worst part about it, we had almost convinced ourselves race wasn’t an issue anymore (well some of America at least had convinced themselves of this). Then we elected a “black” President to almost prove to ourselves race didn’t matter… and like a firecracker on the 4th of July, BOOM!

I’m not gonna get into America’s race issues, partly because I have done so in quite a few other posts and more importantly, this post is a list of issues not a focus on one… and I can’t spend too much time on this… gotta go burn and blow up things.

But racism is alive in well in America. And those of you who have read here long enough know of my feelings on how Twitter and social media reacted in the Travon Martin case and how it all led me to right where we are.

Makes ya wonder where America really stands on homosexuality and the LGBTQ community. Right now the PTB’s want to change our direction. It will start with religious discussions of what our true marriage rights are. Make no mistake, it may seem we are beyond the grasp of the fear and hate that used to rule over this subject… but it’s waiting to be brought back.

Let’s go real deep… like the rape culture that exits in America but almost no one wants to talk about. We are way in denial about this. Which is a shame because it blinds us from seeing how other issues like body shaming, “beauty” glorification, and most of the issues women face everyday feed into and allow our rape culture. Uncomfortable subject? Oh well, we can’t hide from it. America’s rape culture affects men, women, and children. Ignoring it only lets it grow and feed into and even darker evil… world sex trafficking. America should be shining a light on this darkness, but instead our rape culture helps it hide.

Too deep? Well we can keep it simple. America’s resistance to take care of its sick and poor is pretty simple right? Which is a good place to get a little patriotic, after all this is the 4th of July.

“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

See what I did there?

Look, I know America has issues… everyone has issues. But Fluke is wrong if he thinks I’m not patriotic. The issues we have can be found all over the world, and in many other countries a blog like this could not exist pointing out any of it. Not only are we free to do so here, but we encourage it. We push for people to be outspoken and say what they feel. No mater how fucked up it may be.

It ain’t perfect… but it does allow us to change things that need to be changed. It also allows us to change back things that should be left alone. America can’t escape circles and repetition… its human nature.

America’s history is my history… and its future is my future. People are people… I don’t believe a country determines what kind of human being you are. Human beings are what they are. And it can be dangerous to have such freedoms America has. How’s that for getting back to the deep and dark.

That’s freedom… and I take it over anything else any fucking day!

This is all mostly based on my own opinion of course so don’t read too much into it except how great it is we live in a country where I’m free to express it!

Happy 4th Of July!

Welcome To The Illuminati…

This blog and those who are connected to it have been accused of being many different things with many different agendas. I now have to tell you… it’s ALL true!

Zero’s World and many who contribute here are part of the oldest and most powerful group that has ever existed. Our origins reach back to the death of Christ. Our family heritage is linked to the Masons and our country’s founding fathers. The secrets of The Knights Templar has been passed down through the years and the bloodline of Christ has continued through to this day. The Kennedys, Rockefellers, Astors, Rothschilds and many others are known to be a part of this bloodline , but in present day most of us have changed our names to avoid detection. Through the years many have speculated on the existence of the Illuminati and our roles in running the world. I am here to tell you soon all will be revealed and the world as you know it will change for ever.

This of course is the good news.

The bad news is, this blog was used as a HONEYPOT:

honeypot

This means everyone who has ever connected to this site in any way opened themselves to us. Any comments:

king pecker talk

were easily connected to their source:

rich keys profile

All your emails were hacked and collected:

DPH MM7 email Nancy email1

LISK Jen and UG

dph email to mm7

jjj email on zw

fluke email from JR

mm7 email to JR

As well as all your Facebook PMs:

Jerry kate1

jerry kate17

k8 dph294

k8 dph254

k8 dph324

k8 dph325

k8 dph326

lyon jerry1b

lyon jerry2b

lyon jerry3b

Those last 3 were sent to Jerry from Rich Lyons aka: Susie Mockingbird. In case people were wondering who was passing around personal info to everyone.

You now know how we were able to find so much from Longislandserialkiller.com long after the site was taken down:

LISK Fluke1

LISK Flukeyou 1

LISK Flukeyou 3.JPG

LISK Flukeyou 4

LISK Drifter 1

LISK JJ 1

LISK JJ 2

LISK wanda 2

LISK Resident

LISK ANON 1

It’s also how a blog long ago taken down by its creator can be put back up:

https://mm7vslisk.wordpress.com/author/miserymom7/

And how comments from that blog can now be seen for what they really are:

fu gus and bh

You never had a chance Fluke.

Secret pages were all seen:

secret group

Things unseen by most was easily seen by us:

plotts1

jim mutell LH1

No private conversation was truly private:

tkamb ss44

Even DPH’s “secret line” is known:

dphsandy hook secret line

We have it ALL. And ALL will be revealed in the comments.

You Can’t Win

I think we need a little break. Everyone is so upset and I feel a little responsible. So how about a nice sing along… it’s been a while since we had a good one. This one is my favorite song from The Wiz, “The Crow Anthem”. So hit play on the Michael Jackson video, the lyrics are down below. Hear it, sing it, feel it! Because, “you can’t win, you can’t break even, and you can’t get out of the game…”

[Verse 1]
You can’t win, you can’t break even
And you can’t get out of the game
People keep saying things are going to change
But they look just like they’re staying the same
You can’t win, get over your head
And you only have yourself to blame

[Chorus: Michael Jackson (The Crows)]
You can’t win, chile (You can’t win chile)
You can’t break even
And you can’t get out of the game

[Verse 2: Michael Jackson (The Crows)]
You can’t win, the world keeps moving
And you’re standing far behind
People keep saying, things will get better
(Just to ease your state of mind)
(So you lean back)(And you smoke that smoke)
(And you drink your glass of wine)

[Chorus]
Sayin’ you can’t win, chile
You can’t break even
And you can’t get out of the game

[Bridge: Michael Jackson (The Crows)]
You can’t win, you can’t win no way
If your story stays the same
(You ain’t winning) No, no
(But it’s nice to see you, I’m awfully glad you came)
(Better cool it, cause it ain’t about losin’)
Then the world has got no shame

[Chorus]
You can’t win, chile
You can’t break even
And you can’t get out of the game

[Verse 3: Michael Jackson (The Crows)]
You can’t win, you can’t break even
Ain’t the way it’s supposed to be
(You’ll be spending) No, no, oh
(Your little bit of money)
While someone else rides for free
(Learn your lesson) Ooo
(Refuel your mind before some turkey blows out your flame)

[Outro: Michael Jackson (The Crows)]
You can’t win, chile
(No, you can’t win) [4x]

You can’t win, chile
You can’t break even
And you can’t get out of the game
You can’t get out of the game
You can’t get out, woo, of the game, no, no

The Games People Play Part 2

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Everyone wants to play. I get it, I get it. I stepped in, rattled the crazy hornets nest again. LMFAO! Well, we still have some time left. Let’s play!

joe-d

So last week I got that email. This week I get this one:

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WTF? I have no idea why these people wrote me these. I wrote each back asking who they were, and surprise, surprise, no response.  I mean that one actually asked for my phone number. Sounds like Susie! I know right now Susie is trying real hard to find dirt on me. We will talk about that in a moment. Is the information in the e-mails real? Probably not if it’s Susie. I got a third email also about John Ray. I’m not gonna discuss that here yet. Someone who wanted to let me know I have John Ray wrong (Do I? How exactly do I have him?). They also had lots of questions. I’m not sure what to do about this one yet. They have returned my reply so they aren’t “hit and runs” like those other 2 e-mailers. Still 3 emails about John Ray… what’s that all about? So fuck the trolls who wrote those first 2 e-mails, that’s what trolls get, blasted on the blog (why do they still not get that?). The other person with all the questions, if you are reading right now,  it’s not that I don’t want to answer those questions. I don’t know who you are or why you want with it all. And at the moment there are lots of nuts conspiring against me. I will think about it and get back to you. I do appreciate that you would want my opinion on some of those things. Very good questions… lots though, lol.

Speaking of questions (yes this blog is gonna be all over the place, so deal with it), Richard Lyon (Susie Sampierre) wrote me with questions a while back:

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Oh Susie! I know you are now using this account and others to try to find out all you can about me. I told you to stop that. I’m done with you. I showed the world who you really are. I know that pissed you off. But I explained how it was your own fault. Reap and Sow right? Now stop asking about me.

Everyone is so concerned with me again. LOL. The ones that say “I dont’ matter anyway”. Is that from The Breakfast Club? And you all are ending up in one place aren’t ya? I see another troll made it into Kim’s page. Let’s talk about Larry!

I hear Larry is trying to make it sound like we are working together or that i gave him some information. Why don’t you all learn? Larry, like all the rest of you came to me with questions a little while back:

larry-zero1

It probably is Susie. Whoever it is, you ain’t fooling no one. Nice last name! The rest of the conversation was short and sweat:

larry-zero3

No reply after that. Go figure. But I hear Larry is saying plenty over on Kim’s group of rejects. It’s become a “closed group” so I can’t actually see what is being said at the moment. But people talk. Eventually, someone talks to me. I guess Larry (almost sounds like Jerry when you say it) has been saying I said H.A. made up the fake Facebook accounts for AC4 and GB4. As you can see, I did not tell Larry Wolff this. And yes I have discussed this subject many times in all my blogs. But I only said Police asked him if he did it. There are articles out there on this:

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/306769

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/long-island-serial-killer-victims-plus-atlantic-city-women-all-on-facebook-after-death-6689001

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1378565/Facebook-profiles-Craigslist-Ripper-dead-Atlantic-City-prostitutes.html

By the way it is also said that police know who made the fake accounts and say they are not the killer. So don’t try to pull a Jerry on me Larry. See, they sound alike, they act alike. LOL. Jerry tried to make it look like I was saying L.H. is LISK. (‘Member? Yea, we ‘member). Even though we know Jerry was the one pushing that narrative:

jerry-dph-lh

Sounds like everyone is trying to take me down with alternative facts. Nice try bitches!

Also I was the only one to notice H.A. was Facebook “Friends” with a few people in Kim’s group. I knew giving it to the wolf troll would tell me something. And it did… it went right to that group of dum dums. That says a lot!

I need to point out, while some of those new trolls brought in by Jerry and Jenny being Facebook “Friends” with H.A. may be a little telling, it should not seem unusual for people in a LISK group being Facebook “Friends” with him. That’s how these things work. I don’t need to elaborate right? Non nuts get it. I doubt H.A. has anything to do with that crazy bunch that snuck in to Kim’s group. That happened because Jerry liked Jenny so much:
jerry-hard-on

Yea, Jenny brought them all in, but Jerry, bottom line, it happened because of you. That’s just truth. I better lay off Jerry, we are friends now, right?

I also don’t want to get too much into Jenny or her friends. But thank God Kim left the group open long enough for us to see all that. It was insanity. Poor Kim had to get rid of a lot of people. But to get rid of all the nuts that place would have to shut down. It’s run by a nut.

Oh yea, Kim don’t like me saying that:

kim-v1

LMFAO! Thanks for the link Kim! Now who would reply to a comment like this?

kim-v2

I could have bet Dorothy would be there. Oh look, Maureen! Maureen I set a place at the table for you a long time ago, so glad you finally sat down.

Who is this Margene person?

dph-margene

Don’t do it Margene… who ever you are, don’t get dragged into “Dorothy’s War”.

margene-mommy

Oh, hell no! You crazy bitch! Dorothy used to write shit like that about my mom. That’s just not gonna be allowed. And Kim, before you get mad at me for calling Margene crazy, it’s been diagnosed:

margene-skitzo

Yep, a fucking skitzo! Look, I get some of you have mental issues. Then stay off the internet. At least stay out of open serial killer cases. No actually the least you can do is leave me out of your delusions. I swear to God Margene, say something about my mom again and I will turn this blog into a shrine for you. Know that.

I’m getting carried away. Sorry about that. You know I love you guys, but come on, my mom was a saint, if some of you had a mom like her, maybe there wouldn’t be so many voices in your heads.

I bet you nuts are just gonna say I’m attacking women again. You all play the victim almost as well as you play the nut. But don’t forget, Joey! This all started with the first Rooster to gather a bunch of nutty hens. Joey… Jerry… yea they sound a like too. Who think’s Jerry is the new Rooster gathering nutty hens?  LOL, put down those hands, I know who can see it and who can’t. Don’t take that as a dig Jerry, we are friends now, right? I’m just trying to help ya out:

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Take a look at what it will do for ya!

Alright, Flukes a little fish now. Caught in the net long ago. We need a big fish. Like a shark!

For the most part, most of Jenny’s “Friends” who came to Kim’s group because of Jerry were way out there. I was surprised it was allowed to go on for so long. No I wasn’t it’s an asylum, and that’s how asylums are. The only reason they all got booted was because someone Kim feels needs to be there (we all know who that is) left. They were forced to boot them. There are lines that should be read between, I really hope most of you can do that. Me though. Booted me in minutes. I’m worse than anyone in these nuts eyes. Because I call out the lies, the slander, the crazy people. I’m the guy who is most evil! I’m the one they all love to hate.  Well fuck it. Let’s make some more enemies.

There was one screen name that came through with the Jenny crowd. Ken Jones. The Shark:

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Nice nick name! The Shark! Scary. I think I jumped a shark once or twice.

So The Shark came in with the others, but decided to make it personal. Together with Jerry and Dorothy they trashed all over Leanne:

dph-leane-man

ken-leane1

ken-leane2

Good Samaritan? Yea, Ken seems like a real nice guy. I thought Jenny’s pals came to the group to screw with Kim and the nut gallery. This one decided to play along with queen nut herself. That right there is enough for me to want to know more about The Shark. Remember everyone, Dorothy and I are at war. Anyone working with her has to be taken out. It’s a war after all.

Welcome to the blog Ken!

Dorothy made an odd comment in the middle of the trashing:

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A new spin on the CCC. And out of nowhere! Nice one Dorothy! Give me a little time, I think I can clear up everything on the CCC. And not that crap you wrote there. LMFAO!

Yes, games are being played everywhere by everyone.

But you all need to leave me out of them. Keep asking me to play and you know I will!

“WATCH IT!”

Busted!

So, I know I said I was gonna get a little deeper into Jerry’s buddy Hayden. And Jerry has not let up on his bi-polar stalker games. Saying we are friends one moment, then attacking my credibility the next. For some reason he likes to keep talking about my family… creepy little fuck. But over all I think Jerry is getting the picture:

jerry-cant-be-bothered

Jerry you are such an idiot. My identity has been out there forever. You call my blog boring and repetitive. You just don’t get how repetitive it can get here, or how that helps make some of the points this place makes. It’s alright Jerry, come at me, don’t come at me. In the end it won’t mater much. You will be screwed either way. You’ve kind of cemented that already.

Well let him continue on… It’s very entertaining stuff over there in Kim’s group. Their is even discussion that Dorothy Price Hill is really Susie S. LMFAO! That’s an old argument indeed. And these nuts all come back full circle. But trust me Susie is not Dorothy. 2 separate nuts. That doesn’t mean Susie isn’t still there. She is. Yes, I see the screen names you continue to hide behind Susie. . No one else seems to be smart enough to notice you, but I did. I guess you didn’t get enough from this place yet. Continue what you are doing right now Susie and I will expose you even further. Is that what you really want. I know you don’t like me. But do you really want to jump back on my radar?

Well, you guys all keep at it. If you don’t mind I’m gonna step back and watch for a little while. I could crush it all right now… but you guys are proving my point right now better than I have been able to do in the past 4 years.

I’m of course talking about Kim Vest’s LISK group. That place is nut gallery headquarters right now. If you are not keeping an eye on what is going on there, you might want to:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1004493239676354/

Kim has quite the new hang out. Although I can’t really take the credit for it, after all Kim kicked me out within 3 hours of me joining the group. But I can’t help  felling a little responsible for  all the latest shenanigans on that group page. After all I put the place up here. I bet most of you didn’t even know about Kim’s little group till I brought it up. Kim should be thanking me for letting everyone know about her and her group. I bet it has never had so much attention paid to it. But no, Kim don’t seem to like me at all:

kim-lyons-zero-dinh

So how the fuck should I take this? First off Kim, you booted me from you mental group. It’s just my opinion, but you nuts keep yelling at me to come to the group, even though you know I can’t. Dopes! That’s like a bully type move ain’t it? More of those stalker ways none of them want to admit to. LMFAO!

Also I just have to say it does hurt my feelings a little that I would be kicked out of the group so fast when so many crazy people are allowed. Well Kim doesn’t think there are any crazy people there:
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Damn Kim is so not the understanding type. Everything seems to go over her head:

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Crazy contradictions that they are all too nuts to see. Maybe I should take it as a compliment I am not allowed to be part of that group.

Oh well I’m having fun watching it melt down!

Oh and Kim, (and any other dumb asses that can see truth from the voices in their heads. Richard Lyon?!? You guys can see that was related to me right? Someone playing screen name games? Who can that be? Oh Susie, I see all you do now. You can’t get by me. And I swear you better just stop.

I have to admit though you not matering nuts have stolen the spotlight a little. I mean no one seemed to have caught this:

fluke-mug

http://www.pottsmerc.com/article/MP/20161021/NEWS/161029928

Fluke got arrested?!?

How did we all miss this?

This weekend everyone was passing this arround. And no one seemed to have heard about it before now. It’s from October!

Oh well, can’t cry over spilt milk or forgotten Joeys. Poor Flukeyou, got put in jail and none of us even noticed.

HAHAHA! Maybe that’s the way it should be.

Well we all know why he hasn’t been on here telling me how bad my blog sucks in a while. Yes, too funny. How bout that picture of Junior? He’s looking a little rough. I guess this is all taking its toll on poor Fluke-Boy. Take a good look everyone…  you might see your future in Joey’s eyes.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

http://www.readingeagle.com/news/article/police-arrest-oley-man-after-finding-a-marijuana-growing-operation-with-hundreds-of-plants

So I guess Jen G. was telling the truth when she said Joe asked her to sell weed for him. Though he did never deny it, so I think we all knew there was truth to it.

I don’t know if Joe is still in jail. Did he miss Christmas? Did he even get to see himself on TV? I hope someone taped it for you Joe.

I have been chasing down different articles on Fluke’s arrest, this is one of my favorites:

http://www.pottsmerc.com/article/MP/20161021/NEWS/161029928

I dare someone to tell me that’s not funny.

Flukes final punchline?

I love it!

And it’s coming for all you nuts.

Believe that!

LISK Games

So I long ago concluded there were lots of people playing some sort of game with the Gilgo Beach Murder cases. Many people didn’t like me calling it games, but I don’t know what else to call it. Many tried to turn it back on me and say I am the one playing games. I understand that, but I’m really just shining a light on them all… to do that, I admit I had to get right down to the level of all these nuts involved. And believe me it has taken its toll.

But I don’t want anyone to get the idea that I think the LISK case is a game. Quite the contrary, I find that there is so many people playing some kind of game with an open serial killer case quite frightening. I don’t think anyone involved in this case is doing right by the victims. EVERYONE is out to prove, what they want to prove regardless of what is real. The LISK case is not a game and I am appalled by those who keep treating it like one. It’s why I do this. Well, one of the reasons… I told you all, I’m complicated.

Now before anyone bitches at me for saying EVERYONE is playing games with the case, let me just say, I’m not far from wrong. There all no absolutes, I know that. I said before I’m no Sith. But it’s a lot more than just a few Websleithers. More than a few angry neighbors. It’s more than just a few people off their meds and trolling the internet. That’s starting from the bottom and working up. Let’s start at the top. Chief of police James Burke is locked up right now. Anyone want to tell me he didn’t play games with this case? The Chief of Fucking Police! Or how about John Ray. One of the biggest mouth pieces in the case (and behind a lot of other big mouths). And when it comes to LISK Games… John Ray is one of the masters.

Go ahead hate me… I don’t care. I’m calling it as I see it. So please don’t come to me and say, “hey take that down” or “your messing with the case”. I’ve heard it all before. I asked for “last words” a long time ago… don’t even bother any more. We are past all that.

I long ago tried to move on from all the nuts who have pushed their way into the LISK case. I’ve done it a few times over the past 4 years. But there’s always been Dorothy and Flukeyou there to keep me involved. And even if they weren’t there is a number of nuts fighting their way into this. I’ve called a lot of these nuts out… we have a few left to go.. and new ones keep jumping up to say hi. So I have to just get it all out there now.

I know there’s a lot going on in secret pages and private messages right now. It’s crazy, right? But I have to bow out of all that. To many nuts seeping in. I made the mistake thinking I caught the attention of one nut pretending to be different people… tuned out it was 3 all new nuts. Well, I wouldn’t say all new. But first time they all reached out to me. And guess what, even between these 3 there are several screen names. So yea, I’m done playing the who’s who game… it always brings some new madness my way. So if I’m scarce in off blog activity for a while, I hope you all understand.

I started this blog keeping it all out in the open… on the blog. But since so many of the nut gallery like to do their dirty work off in private messages and phone calls, I had to do the same. And look where we are… how many have we knocked off in the past few weeks? I haven’t been to Websleuths lately, but I bet the games have quieted down.

So off the blog is no more… it’s been fun. But really it’s time to get the rest of this out of the secret discussions and out to be seen for what it really is. What ever that turns out to be.

Now before anyone reads the next post about our little “Joker”, EVERYONE needs to watch this video, and read all of the lyrics. I mean every word.

Susie Say So

Do any of you ‘member the screen name that started putting MM7’s mug shot everywhere?  Yea, we ‘member. LOL.

So Susie says a lot of stuff under screen names, but she also has a lot to say under her “Sue Name”. Shall we take a look at some of them? Yes we should:

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susie-lisk-players

susie-burke

susie-burke-lisk-fox

susie-burke-akeem

susie-on-dottie-lanster

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susie-on-john-ray

If I am seeing this wrong, please someone correct me. But Susie Mockingbird is a big part of the problem. In fact I put her in the top 3 next to Dorothy Price Hill and Joey “Flukeyou”  Junior. And Jen, Cristin, and Candyce, you round out the bottom 3. All 6 of them getting right up into the case. Truthspider and Hawkshaw are dangling from the scrap metal of this ship, with John Ray at the captain’s seat. Some may argue that Mari had a hand in letting some of these nuts get so close to the case, maybe… but John Ray has always been driving… still is.