Catechizing The LISK Murders

As many of you know I’ve been clashing with quite a few people and places out there lately. Yes, I bet Websleuths and all its Sleuthers are not crazy about my blog anymore. But they are still crazy, lol.

There are other places, secret Facebook pages, LISK groups, and such. I try to give them all the benefit of the doubt, but they all seem to be infested with nuts. Well I just found a place I hadn’t seen before and it has to be the most dangerous of them all right now…

I can not sit by quietly while this happens!

This group has to be exposed before something really bad happens. I only hope I’m not too late!

The group page is :

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1004493239676354/

And it’s run by someone named Kim Vest:

https://www.facebook.com/kim.vest.353?fref=nf

I’m gonna call it straight out before I go any further, Kim seems like a member of the nut gallery. In fact I would bet on it. And it’s not just comments like these:

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Does she really think because 2 people are Asian that means they are probably friends? Yea sorry Kim, that’s a nutty thing to say. But that’s not why I say she’s in the nut gallery. It’s also not because she has nutty arguments with other nutty people:

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How familiar does this look to a lot of you?  This stuff is going on in so many LISK groups and pages. I’m not gonna get into all the parallels of what so many are involved in right now… but you see it right?

So Kim has a LISK group where she says some nutty things and has some nutty commenters who  I’m guessing came over from a Casey Anthony page. Yes, seen it all before… it screams crazy! But none of this is why I think Kim is part of the nut gallery and none of that is why I feel an urgency to point out what is happening on this page.

First off there is this:

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There ya go… the leader of the nut gallery, Dorothy Price Hill. But it get’s worse:

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Is everyone seeing this? Jerry the stalker has met Dorothy the queen LISK nut. This is bad. And it’s not just because these 2 could be very dangerous if they start working together, but as many of us know and you can see right there, Jerry thinks he knows who LISK is. If you have been paying close attention, everyone reading here knows who Jerry believes LISK is. But there is lots about Jerry you don’t know. But don’t worry, by the end of this post you will all know plenty. First though back to Kim’s little group. Jerry made his way there just the other day:

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That little fucker is talking about me. You little shit. I have said many times I’m no hero. I’m a fucking villain. I’m your villain now you little creep. Also to imply I make any money off this blog or the LISK case is so beyond stupid. This blog isn’t even a LISK blog, it’s primarily about internet nuts who screw with people. If you actually read it you’d know that, dumb-ass. LOL, yea, Jerry Jamie Hall is getting under my skin a little. Don’t worry though, I’m ’bout to scratch. One last thing ass-wipe, Zero’s World is one of the few places that has named this person you are talking about. And I would have gone deeper into it, but it is part of an active investigation. Going into it all in further detail could jeopardize it, if, and I say IF it pans out to a real LISK connection.

Now back to Kim’s groups. It’s a good thing I saw this today… because I’m telling you this is not good! Just look at the 3 of them together:

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Man, I’m not liking where any of this is going. And since I know exactly what has been going on behind the scenes and what Jerry stumbled into… Damn, I just don’t know what to do here, where to start and how much has to be said. To start with read this:

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2017/01/14/jerry-hallech/

Also let’s just get this up:

https://www.facebook.com/jamie.hall.31105

So Jerry or Jamie or what ever this creeps real name is got himself wrapped up in LISK by harassing the girl in this video. Both Jerry and the girl from this video have given me copies of some of their conversation. And yes, some of it confirms what many are hinting at… right plottmaster?  But let me make this clear, it’s all being looked at, and it has to be. Jerry running around harassing people, dropping hints, talking to other nuts, and having his friends send out links and snapshots of conversations is not helping anyone solve LISK. And if you are working with him… you are making a dangerous mistake.

What you don’t know is Jerry stalks and harasses females on the internet. So regardless of what he thinks he knows about the LISK case you do not want to let this guy into your life in any way.

Jerry and Jamie are fake names, and he likes  to use fake names. Let’s take a closer look at the Jerry account:

https://www.facebook.com/jamie.hall.31105

I really like his intro:

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Damn that’s funny. Coming from a guy who very much has bullied a few people lately. Listen, most of you know I wouldn’t say this if I didn’t truly believe this guy was dangerous… STAY AWAY FROM HIM!

I have now spoken to several people who say that he has stalked or harassed them. Wanting them to help him:

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He than latches on whether you try to ignore him or talk to him. He send’s this video to lots of different women claiming he made it for them:

I told ya… creepy with a capital CREEP! Does he really think “God Save The Queen” is romantic. I don’t know who Jerry made this video for, but I know he has sent it to at least a few ladies.

By the way Jerry belongs to many pages… did you notice this one?

https://www.facebook.com/groups/106138616389709/?order=&member_query=jerry&view=members

Yep, that’s our CREEPer:

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And just in case you don’t know what that group is:

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achterdam_(Alkmaar)&prev=search

CREEPer!

OK, he sends different pictures out when he is tries to take someone into his madness:

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That’s not very clear. how about this one:

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There ya are. Well if that’s really him in the video. This guy is so crazy I don’t know how far he gets into his catfishing games. I mean this guy  is  wacko. But I think it is him in the video and that means that’s him next to Iron Man. I still don’t know who he is or what his real name is… but again, trust me, he is playing some strange games and you don’t want to be a part of it.

Now as I said in my last post about this nut, he had some “friend” contact me and give me info on his LISK POI and some of his stalking private messages between Jerry and the lady from John Ray’s conference. I’d like to post them all… plus the ones she sent me as well… it shows just how Jerry works. But I can’t there is sensitive stuff in it and I am not about to interfere with this case like some of you nuts. This friend who Jerry had contact me is the only connection to this scary internet stalker (and you know I don’t use that phrase lightly), his name is Hayden Lufkin:

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And let me tell you Hayden, by sending me the stuff “Jerry” asked you to send me, you interfered with an open serial killer case. I’m not joking either. Did you read any of that stuff you sent me? You need to step up and stop your so-called “friend” from these games he is playing. Not help him play them.

Again, the stuff Jerry Jamie Hall thinks he knows about LISK is already out there. It’s on this blog! You don’t need him. So don’t work with him. He is dangerous! And not like Dorothy or Susie or the other slanderous nuts. This guy has issues and he is looking for some unlucky lady to help him with them (did I mention he says he is married?). So for those of you who continue on and find out for your self. Don’t say I didn’t warn ya.

That’s where I have to leave this for now… this guy is crazy, he has weaseled his way into the LISK case, and now thanks to Kim he just met Dorothy Price Hill.

Hawkshaw Goes to Court

Before we leave Hawkshaw to stew in his own juices i want to show you this article:

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ex-l-top-burke-pleads-guilty-assault-obstruction-article-1.2544906

Hawkshaw is in court making sure he spoke to reporters so his “fans” know how involved he is. how the limelight shines on him:

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Man, how many nuts are there involved in all this? James Burke needs to be looked at from all angles to see what kinds of crimes he was involved with, I’m not denying that. But Pete Hawkshaw is going way to far and beyond to prove HE is right and in the end even if he is he could be jeopardizing the truth coming out with the way he goes about things. What none of these nuts seem to realize is that nuts don’t help a case. But hey, maybe I’m missing the importance of being there to call Burke a “cocksucker” to a news reporter helps sleuth any case. Again I am still not sure of most not your sleuthing techniques. And if there is still anyone out there that doesn’t see how crazy Hawkshaw is, read this:

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Yep, that’s Pete Hawkshaw saying that if he had his way, if he was given a “license  to kill”, he wouldn’t go after Burke who he say’s is a serial killer. He wouldn’t go after any of the other corrupt people behind who knows how many crimes. He would gun down the 12 jurors and the alternates from his son-in-laws case.

Let me make this clear. That was written in February of 2016, not even a year ago. His son-in-law did 3 years and has been out of jail for a long time if I am correct on my information (please someone correct me if I’m wrong), And Hawkshaw is still so obsessed with his SIL’s case that he wants to kill innocent people who’s only crime was serving as a jury, something people must do as Americans.

Well, since we all know Hawksahaw is hanging out at Burke’s trial to try to rattle Burke’s nerves. I hope someone keeps an eye on him and keeps him away from any jury just in case they make a decision that Pete doesn’t agree with.

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So now that you know, let’s take a closer look at Hawkshaw:

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Still get a kick from his new avatar. So if you didn’t already figure it out (and I’m pretty sure everyone has), Hawkshaw is Dorothy and Susie’s detective friend Pete F. Pete was once a cop and because of that he has become quite the little insider at Websleuths. Now I know some of you like Hawkshaw, (some like TKAMB just pretend to like him), but that maybe because you don’t know much about his other screen name Petefio. We will get to Petefio in a moment and maybe you might like Hawkshaw a little less… maybe.

First I want to get right to what I think is the root of why I believe Hawkshaw is not someone who should be so wrapped up in the LISK case. It’s comments like this:

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You see to me comments like this make me think Hawkshaw doesn’t care who LISK really is, he just wants to see Burke go down for it. He doesn’t care if anyone make the evidence”fit”, because Hawkshaw feels Burke has made evidence “fit” for so many others. And this is a feeling Hawkshaw has had for a very long time. Well maybe not as long as he has thought Spota was doing it. It wasn’t till Pete started hearing word that Burke was going down that Pete started in on James Burke. But Spota, Pete has been after him for a long time. Most of you probably know right where that started. Now I’m sure Pete (Hawkshaw) knows all about “bad” cops from his time as a cop himself, but Pete’s obsession with Spota really started after Pete was retired. As a detective Pete worked on  what he calls the SIL case. SIL stands for Son In Law. It seems Pete’s son-in-law (who also was a cop) got arrested for burglary and Pete felt he was set up:

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LOL, “he thinks he knows”, yea, Pete is a riot, as we are about to see. but first we really need to understand this SIL stuff. You see Pete worked as a Detective on it using his knowledge of LE due to his time as on the force. But to me this already shows where Pete steps on the lines to get where he wants to go. I get he wanted to help out his daughter’s husband, but him being the father-in-law and an ex-cop well, it leads to bias, in my opinion. The strange part is that even though Pete says his SIL was set up, sometimes I’m not so sure he feels this way:

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And I don’t think he cared:

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This is what I mean. Pete doesn’t seem to care about truth. There are to many biased feelings involved. Before we go on, you should hear from Pete all about what happened to his SIL:

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He leaves a much shorter version on Websleuths:

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But here is probably his fullest version of the whole story:

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There’s a lot there. I’m not even gonna waste time picking through it here to make a judgment on whether or not the SIL was set up. All we need to know, is Pete believes it. And Pete has been getting into it with others online over these subjects for at least a decade now:

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And it goes on and on and on. Pete aka Petefio aka Hawkshaw makes sure to hit up anywhere and everywhere:

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I put there because Pete actually includes Nancy’s son in his list of criminals.

Look Pete Hawkshaw has been talking for years. About his SIL, about Spota, about Burke, about the LISK case… in fact Pete goes on and on about all sorts of stuff. And some of the things he has said are pretty messed up, we will get to some of his worst in just a minute, but first I want to take a look at 3 of Pete’s different subjects that I found interesting. First is about David Bianco and the subject of cops that kill:

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Just a couple of things here. Pete points out cops can be killers and even super detective Hawkshaw can’t tell the good ones from the killers. Also Pete has a peculiar way of using the initials BJ. This next thread is about Pete being a “victim”:

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I’m not even sure what all that means… but Pete says he was a victim and Pete should know. The last subject I’m putting up is Vegas:

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So Pete likes to gamble. And he seems to prefer Vegas to Atlantic City. Well we will have to get to gether next time you are in town Pete. Oh, and I agree, I hate those tickets.

So, Pete is obsessed with Spota, Burke, and busting Long Island LE. We all see that right? But that doesn’t mean Burke ain’t a dirty cop. He is. And maybe Burke is connected to LISK in some way. If so, I think it should come out soon. My point is that Hawkshaw is obsessed and is looking for what he wants to find. And that seems to be what most people involved in the LISK case are doing. People want to prove Hackett did it. Others want to prove Hackett is innocent. People want to prove Burke did it. Others want to prove other wise. Everyone gets lost in what they want to prove or disprove and forget the object should be finding out what really happened.

But you all can make your own judgement on Pete Hawkshaw. But let me point out he has worked with both Dorothy Price Hill and Susie S. That’s enough for me! Still just to help tip that scale let’s take a look at Pete’s most questionable comments (aren’t ya glad you looked into me for DPH Petey?):

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WTF? Did Pete just say his cousin was a serial killer? Damn.

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That one’s just creepy!

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Pete using the term blumpkins! Gross! Flukeyou used “blumpkins” in one of his comments before. If you still haven’t googled it please do. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that Pete would use such a term, his humor is … well off:

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If you think those are bad, look at this:

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Yes, that one tells us all we need to know about Pete. Wal-marts, LMFAO!

Still say I’m wrong about old Hawkshaw? Well then you might like to hang out with him at Thee Rant:

http://theerant.yuku.com/topic/9432/I-GOT-PULLED-OVER-IN-SUFFOLK-YESTERDAY?page=1

It’s a place for ex-cops like Pete. And as you can see from this reply to Pete’s Wal-marts adventure, there are people just like Pete there:

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But put all this nuttiness aside and the main thing about Pete that worries me is how involved  he gets:

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I mean he gets way up in there like the other nuts and then he says things like this:

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Or this:

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And worse… something like this:

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Remember that? I do. Then you see something like this:

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Just one question. Why is anyone taking him seriously? And look, 9 years ago Pete talks about how he somehow fucked up the Zodiac and Son Of Sam case:

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Hawkshaw has been everywhere and I’ve gone on quite enough about him for now. I just wanted to get it all out at once so we can continue moving on. Before we go, let’s go way back and see what Pete was like almost 20 years ago:

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It sure does seem like Pete was a little worried about Mayor Koch being gay. That’s funny to me, because I know some people make this a big deal:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/01/ed-koch-gay-lgbt-community-nyc-mayor_n_2600891.html

I get it, Pete thinks Koch was gay because he passed legislation that benefited the LGBTQ community. and that bothered him. Pete is worried a gay guy might try to pick him up. Gross! Fuck Hawkshaw! There, I said it. I’m done.

I’ll leave you all with Pete’s own words. I’m sure he won’t get the irony in them but I bet most of my readers will:

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LISK Games

So I long ago concluded there were lots of people playing some sort of game with the Gilgo Beach Murder cases. Many people didn’t like me calling it games, but I don’t know what else to call it. Many tried to turn it back on me and say I am the one playing games. I understand that, but I’m really just shining a light on them all… to do that, I admit I had to get right down to the level of all these nuts involved. And believe me it has taken its toll.

But I don’t want anyone to get the idea that I think the LISK case is a game. Quite the contrary, I find that there is so many people playing some kind of game with an open serial killer case quite frightening. I don’t think anyone involved in this case is doing right by the victims. EVERYONE is out to prove, what they want to prove regardless of what is real. The LISK case is not a game and I am appalled by those who keep treating it like one. It’s why I do this. Well, one of the reasons… I told you all, I’m complicated.

Now before anyone bitches at me for saying EVERYONE is playing games with the case, let me just say, I’m not far from wrong. There all no absolutes, I know that. I said before I’m no Sith. But it’s a lot more than just a few Websleithers. More than a few angry neighbors. It’s more than just a few people off their meds and trolling the internet. That’s starting from the bottom and working up. Let’s start at the top. Chief of police James Burke is locked up right now. Anyone want to tell me he didn’t play games with this case? The Chief of Fucking Police! Or how about John Ray. One of the biggest mouth pieces in the case (and behind a lot of other big mouths). And when it comes to LISK Games… John Ray is one of the masters.

Go ahead hate me… I don’t care. I’m calling it as I see it. So please don’t come to me and say, “hey take that down” or “your messing with the case”. I’ve heard it all before. I asked for “last words” a long time ago… don’t even bother any more. We are past all that.

I long ago tried to move on from all the nuts who have pushed their way into the LISK case. I’ve done it a few times over the past 4 years. But there’s always been Dorothy and Flukeyou there to keep me involved. And even if they weren’t there is a number of nuts fighting their way into this. I’ve called a lot of these nuts out… we have a few left to go.. and new ones keep jumping up to say hi. So I have to just get it all out there now.

I know there’s a lot going on in secret pages and private messages right now. It’s crazy, right? But I have to bow out of all that. To many nuts seeping in. I made the mistake thinking I caught the attention of one nut pretending to be different people… tuned out it was 3 all new nuts. Well, I wouldn’t say all new. But first time they all reached out to me. And guess what, even between these 3 there are several screen names. So yea, I’m done playing the who’s who game… it always brings some new madness my way. So if I’m scarce in off blog activity for a while, I hope you all understand.

I started this blog keeping it all out in the open… on the blog. But since so many of the nut gallery like to do their dirty work off in private messages and phone calls, I had to do the same. And look where we are… how many have we knocked off in the past few weeks? I haven’t been to Websleuths lately, but I bet the games have quieted down.

So off the blog is no more… it’s been fun. But really it’s time to get the rest of this out of the secret discussions and out to be seen for what it really is. What ever that turns out to be.

Now before anyone reads the next post about our little “Joker”, EVERYONE needs to watch this video, and read all of the lyrics. I mean every word.

Let It Snow!

Snow has returned to the blog. I get so giddy inside when I pull up The Blog and see the white flakes falling in front of the blog background of Zero’s world. It’s just so festive.

It’s also nice to see lots of new readers. For those of you who have found this place because of the new series on A&E, “The Killing Season”, I’d like to welcome you and hope you continue reading for a while now that you have found us.  I plan to cover quite a few things from the show as well as discuss my own conversations with Rachel and Josh in future posts. I have watched all 6 episodes so far and am eagerly waiting the rest. The show is very thorough in my opinion. One of the best I have seen on what I call The LISK Onion. I have noticed quite a few other out there think so as well. But I’m a little puzzled at some of those out there commenting on how good the show is, because these same people have said my blogs are  terrible and I should stop wasting (spelled right) my time, etc. Not that I mind, you all know I love my haters. But really (and I have said this before) I don’t get it. People praise places like Websleuths and shows like Killing Seasons but dump all over my blogs, when we all have covered a lot of the same things. Hackett, Brewer, Bisset, LISK.com, AC4, New Mexico, Florida, Neal Falls,  Serial Killer Truckers, Flukeyou (You’ll be happy to know Junior, that since you were on The Killing Season, the Flukeyou posts are getting record views!). Yes, I have written about most of the same things and yet I’m the bad guy while all these others are searching for truth and keeping the case alive.

Oh well, they don’t call me Zero for nothing.

Still, I hope everyone continues reading for a little while longer (at least ’till the snow stops falling), I think you will find quite a few interesting posts coming up. If I am going to bring this blog to some kind of end, there is much that we need closure on. And all though I really don’t care what people think of me (O.K. that’s not entirely true. We say things like that, but deep down we do care what people think about us. So deep down I’m no different. But on the surface “I Just Don’t Give A Fuck”), I would like to explain fully why I continued to blog about the people and subjects covered in all 3 of my blogs. Why I felt it was important to continue to write about Fluke, Dorothy, and The LISK Onion.

Lots to get to, so I better get to it. Again I hope you all will stay with me for a little longer, new readers, those there from the beginning, friends, haters, sleuthers, gamers, Fluke, Dorothy,Jen, Cristin, Nerd, The exiles, and yes, even you Nancy. I used to say “we’re just getting started”, well, we are past all of that now. We are ready to finish.

Until then… Let It Snow!

Any Last Words? Part 2

It’s been a while since we all heard about Mari’s death and I said there would be a week of silence on the blog. Much more than a week has passed by, in fact a whole season has gone. Summer became Fall and Fall is half way through.

I recently wrote on here,  “the longer I stay away from the blog, the easier it is not to return”, and that keeps getting truer and truer. I like writing here and interacting with all the different readers (well most of you) but just letting go of all the madness that circles this blog and enjoying life these last few months has started me thinking towards ending the blog all together. I’m sure this won’t come to much surprise, I mean did anyone really expect it to go on longer than 3 years?

The problem is, even when the blog is quiet the nut gallery keeps on yapping. Dorothy declared war on the blog a few weeks back, I have to admit that brought a smile to my face. Some of you might have seen Fluke returned to let me know the blog sucks, thank you Fluke, coming from you that means a lot. I noticed some of the exiles like Susie S., Candyce B., and Crictin K. came out of hiding to say a few words about Mari, I don’t have anything to say about that, that was totally expected. In fact I expected many of the exiles to resurface and have things to say now that Mari is gone. I expected it, was worried about it, and saw it happen. I was a little surprised to see how many quickly turned on Mari, but I knew that would come too. Even her attorney who used to say how strong of a woman Mari was, and what a great mother she was, quickly changed his tune, accusing Mari of child neglect and mental illness. Comments flying around about Mari being into witchcraft and arguments on the difference of black and white magic…. more of the crap the LISK case does not need.

A few have come to me asking my feelings on John Ray and I was not kind with my words. More than ever the guy seems like a snake to me. But I have had more time to think about it, and maybe he is just trying to help the Gilbert family in any way he can now. Maybe he is just trying to do right by Mari and Shannan by saving Sarra. I don’t know, and it’s really not for me to pass judgment. The Gilbert’s have had too much tragedy in their lives, I’ve said that many times before, and I don’t want to be part of any hurtful words towards them. I think most of my readers understand that and know of my careful skirting around when it comes to the Gilberts. That hasn’t changed with Mari’s death, in fact it’s only made it harder. I don’t want to be writing about any of this, but the time has come to stop putting a new post off or just stop posting. And I’m just not quite at the latter yet.

Still I will not judge or question any of the Gilberts and I know that puzzles some of my readers. Yes, many of us have questioned about mental states of the family and if this played into them connecting to others with questionable mental state. We have all long ago seen that connection in the interactions between the Gilberts and those like Dorothy, Joey, Jen, Candyce, Cristin, and the list goes on and on. Questions of bi-polar and schizophrenia as well as other mental illness surrounds them all. But these are things long ago known, and I don’t see the purpose to pounce on it all now. I still strongly feel hurt and sorrow for the Gilberts, they have suffered a lifetime of tragedy and therefore I can understand (in some way) the reasons they go about things or the mental instability that comes with such tragedies. I just wish it didn’t affect the Gilgo Beach case the way it has and does. But I don’t lay that blame on the Gilberts. That goes right down the line bouncing back and forth between the Jens and Cristins and ends right at the top of crazy with Flukeyou and Dorothy.

Can you tell I’m struggling with this post? I’m this close to deleting all that I’ve written so far…

Look, I agree that things like the Shannan Facebook memorial and Mari’s blog have let questionable people get involved with lies and misdirection. I think some of those who joined Mari on the vigils and marches on Oak Beach have done great damage to the case and hurt the lives of innocent people. Yes, it’s a mess but I don’t see how blaming the Gilberts or shinning spotlights on their tragic home life will help solve the LISK case nor stop all the nuts who pushed their ways into it all.

I’d like to think Mari is with Shannan and all that tragedy and heart ache between them has dissolved, giving way to pure love, forgiveness, and an eternity of happiness. I hope they await us all someplace where all the questions and pain of life’s hardness are forgotten.

Still I know the questions for all of us live on, and many will continue to search for answers and some will continue to spread lies to confuse the rest of us. The question is will this blog be a part of it any more?

If this is to be the last year of the blog, at the very least I owe my readers the best “ta da” I can.

So… any last words… any one?

Cristin? Some public apologies maybe?

Jen? I actually contacted Jen a short while ago to question her on something Mari had told me about Jen. Jen, of course denied it and questioned my purpose for contacting her. Classic Jen. By the way Jen, I know you are talking to people, I hope you are keeping to the truth and not some made up “cloak and dagger” shit.

Candyce? Susie? Any thing to say? Doubt it. Not under those names at least.

Nerd? I know you are still out there. End some of the confusion, I know you can.

Joey? I know you have some last words, but it will just be the same old shit.

Websleuthers? Where ya at? I’m looking forward to some of the things you all have to say. I doubt you will like what I have to say about all of you.

Nancy? Just kidding, no last words needed from you. In fact I beg you… keep it on your Facebook.

Dorothy? Nothing you can say will ever make up for all the crap you have said and done. But if you have any last words, get ’em out, because you know I will have plenty of last words for you.

That goes for everyone really. Truthspider, Son of Man, Dawhoda, Gino, Mr. Harvard, Radionewz, Julia, Michelle McKee, PS149…

Any last words?

Now’s the time.

Dorothy, Flukeyou, & Dr. Peter Hackett

 

So back at the beginning of March something was posted on the “Praying For Shannan Maria Gilbert” Facebook page that really had me troubled. I kept going back to it to see if anyone else would correct it or at least question it, because it was just so far from right. We’ll get to that at the end of this post.
At the end of March Flukeyou came back to the comments. We haven’t heard from Junior since last summer:

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2015/06/28/a-closer-look-at-flukes-comment/

Damn, that was almost a year ago. I almost thought we had heard the last from Fluke here at ZW. Nope… he has returned and his comment (as usual) also… so far from right. We’ll get to Fluke and his comment right before we get to what was left on the SMG Facebook page, and in the end you’ll see how it all fits together… but first let’s discuss how far from right Dorothy’s comment on Bill Windsor’s Facebook was. Yes, Dorothy left a new message on Bill’s FB. It happened in the middle of the month, sandwiched in between the SMG FB comment and Fluke’s comment here. The far from right sandwich. Whose hungry?

Miss DPH if you please:

dph on bill fb

WTF?!? Anyone who follows the Lawless America saga (saga seems to be the new “it” word for my posts) knows of Bill’s ongoing tales of court corruptions and hatred for Montana. But what does Connie Plaissay have to do with any of Bill’s crap?

Again, Cristin (MM7) and Michelle McKee (and RadioNewz, though as parody I’m sure) brought Murt into the LISK case via MM7’s drone stalker and it should have been called out by anyone, everyone involved in any of it. I think I was the only one to call it out. Cristin never admitted Murt was not involved, McKee won’t even acknowledge her part in it, and RadioNewz never explained their satire posts about it did not in any way truly link Murt to LISK. In fact they all probably loved it. And as I have said before, this led to people saying Murt was Morrie (Morrie is CCC stuff, I promise we are getting to a CCC post very, very soon, but all this must be said first) and a post on Murt in the Shannan Gilbert blog (again showing Cristin’s influence on Mari at the time). Is this fun and games or are people wanting misinformation out there on the LISK case?  I seriously question this now, and maybe a few of you will by the end of this post.

So just how Cristin brought all the craziness from Murt, McKee, and Radio over to the LISK case… Dorothy keeps trying to bring the LISK case over to Bill and his Lemmings (in Nancy’s case, she did just that).

Why is she even commenting there any more? Didn’t she accuse Bill of being linked to LISK and the Drifter?

dph on bw

Yes. There is Dorothy trying to bring the LISK case directly into Bill W’s lap. LOL at my mention. I seem to be angry with everybody… right? Key word is “seem”. I’m not mad at Bill, though the ones involved in these types of internet feuds that take it to the level of lawsuits really are a lowly breed (you all know who you are). Point is, Bill or someone should have caught on to Dorothy’s crap and blocked her from commenting on his stuff. Get the theme here yet?No? Well let’s start from the top then.

Dorothy posted her comment this month on Bill’s FB vaguely connecting what Bill said about Montana to Connie P. We all know who she got that name from… Mr. Joey “Flukeyou” Saclise Jr. We also all know the rumors behind the reason Fluke brings Connie into his circle of evil he claims are his old neighbors. No need to rehash them again. But it is sad that Fluke does not bring up Connie himself but relies on Dorothy (a woman in a questionable mental state) to do his dirty work. Gutless, shameless, and just plain less. So let’s get to Flukeyou:

fu lisk blog 3 28 16

There we go… Fluke gives out names to Dorothy to drop in vague and cryptic comments all over the web, but he saves his favorites for himself. Junior has a beef with all his old neighbors, but man he really hates the Cannings . What ever his real issues with all of his old neighbors are, the association trying to kick his family out or his neighbors involved with extra marital affairs, possibly involving his mother (damn, I said I wasn’t gonna bring the rumors up), he seems to hold the Cannings’ most responsible. Which to me (though I’m no psychiatrist) is why he makes them the most responsible with holding back information in his tale of Oak Beach corruption and murder.

Enough psycho mumbo jumbo, let’s simplify it.

I have always said Dr. Hackett is and should still be on the radar of anyone who looks at this case or anyone involved in this case. There are many reasons in my opinion to feel this way, most recently the stuff that has come out on James Burke. After all, wasn’t Hackett  the former director of Suffolk County emergency services? I still feel he is a strong suspect. But as I have said before, Flukeyou, Dorothy, and others only made me less suspicious of the Doc after seeing the lies and games they got out there early on in all this. And even though Cristin and even Nancy were smart enough to get away from the lies and misinformation that has come from you all getting together, Dorothy and Fluke keep it going to this day (as their recent comments show).

Fluke (and I hope you are reading this), if you just wanted to say CPH=LISK, and explain all the reasons you think it’s him, that would be one thing. But to get crazy women on the internet to help you in smearing every one of your neighbors is down right psychotic. Even if you really thought some of your neighbors were hiding something, the personal attacks would not be necessary. You have deep-rooted issues that have created this obsessive hatred for those you once called neighbors.

More psycho mumbo jumbo… pointless, you guys aren’t gonna see what you do. And it seems you aren’t gonna stop what you do. But why is the misinformation and straight out lies not confronted more? (How many times have I asked that question?) Other than here, that is (yea, that’s for the haters).

If you can’t trust LE for the right information, who can you trust? When everyone on the internet is chasing the same misinformation, who can you trust? When even the families of victims and those close to the case are taken in by misinformation, who can you trust? Who can you get the right information from? And more importantly, is it so tainted that no one has the right information to work on? Is everybody that far from right that a tragedy is badly being misrepresented and misguided, leading it to remain unsolved?

Well, I once again point out, that if Cristin and McKee hadn’t connected (pretended) Murt as MM7’s so-called  drone stalker and if Cristin wasn’t helping Mari with the Shannan blog, I’m sure this post never would have been out there: https://officialshannangilbert.wordpress.com/murt-many-names-many-agendas/

And that’s just one example of the many in the pages of this and my LISK Blog. Everyone involved in allowing it, even me. Yea, but at least I’m trying to call it all out (again, for my haters, though I don’t know why, most never make it this far in a post if they even read them at all). I keep calling it out because I don’t understand it. Do any of you really think you are helping?

Fluke? Dorothy? Jen? Anyone? I know I’m not. And I really do try to. Yes, even though I lost faith in the “saving the world” via internet long ago, I still try to help point out the lies, agenda, and just plain misinformation out there on the LISK case. I have grown close to the case and would like to see it solved and the victims and all that knew them to see justice and have some kind of closure.

Yes, I try to help, but sadly I know that this blog is not in the position to do so. If I can see that, I would think those of you so obviously doing your best to spread bad information must know you are not helping. Right? And everyone who helps it spread or just let’s it sit without any attempt to set it right… well you know you are not helping, right?

So the question becomes who really wants to help solve this case? I know there are some out there, but the ratio is just all bad. There are just way to many who seem to not care about helping at all or are just to crazy, stupid, or stubborn to see they are not helping. Which brings me to what was left on the “Praying for Shannan Maria Gilbert” Facebook page:

smg page not hackett

Go ahead, go see what Jason Edwards linked in his obvious attempted to accuse Hackett of being a serial killer:

http://www.altitudemedicine.org/dr-peter-hackett/

I know I don’t have to point out to anyone here that the Dr. Peter Hackett in that link, the Dr. Hackett who is said to be a world-renowned high altitude expert and altitude research pioneer as well as former Rolling Stones physician is not the same Dr. Hackett who was neighbors with Flukeyou and involved in the LISK case. But I guess no one looking at the SMG FB could tell the difference, or if they did no one corrected it. I almost did, but I wanted to see if anyone else would, plus I don’t like posting there. I just wish it didn’t let so much misinformation out there in a place where people go to look for real information and pay respect to Shannan. I would hope those running the page know that is not the same Dr. Hackett. But closer look shows that the page is actually the only one to “LIKE” what Jason Edwards had to say. So I don’t know. Is this done on purpose? Again I ask, does anyone truly want to help solve this case? Because this does not help.

And how about the Dr. in Colorado? Does he deserve to be posted on the memorial of a murdered girl as a possible suspect just because he has the same name as the Oak Beach Doc? I would hope no one would think that was OK. And yet the comment and link still sit there almost a month later, uncorrected, unquestioned, and “LIKED” by the page.

Maybe Mr. Edwards really thinks the 2 Docs are the same (Can you imagine the 1 legged Dr. climbing mountains in Colorado?) or maybe he is just someone who likes to spread misinformation and confuse people on the internet (like most of my haters). It’s hard to tell anymore. This kind of stuff has been being put out there 3 years before I started writing about it all, and it still continues 3 years later.

So how can anyone get passed all the wrong info out there on this case… when everyone is so far from right?

Michelle McKee Part 2

Not long after my last post a few weeks ago, Michelle McKee had tweeted something like “Don’t post your blog on your enemies site, because that let’s them see how many readers you have. Or should I say don’t have.” I’m paraphrasing because I can’t see the exact tweet any longer because that Twitter account is gone. This happens a lot on Twitter.

Since my last post was about McKee, it would be easy to feed into the madness and say that her Tweet must have been about Zero’s World and therefore her twitter being gone has to do with my Mckee post… lol… I’m not gonna do that though. Her tweet was for Deric aka KY (lol, I used to giggle whenever I saw his screen name… I know… I’m juvenile) and I’m sure her twitter being gone has something to do with all that as well.

McKee probably never even saw my other post and probably won’t read this one either. I don’t blame anyone for ignoring me… it’s a very rational thing to do. In fact I almost wasn’t gonna write this post, I was just gonna move on, lord knows there is plenty of other things to get to and I’m dragging my feet as usual.

Yes, who cares, skip it, move on.

But it said “to be continued…”

How many other post end with “to be continued” or hint to a continuing post and go nowhere? Don’t answer that, it was rhetorical. But there are way to many.

Plus McKee said I should “catch up while shutting the fuck up”:

mk tweet1

With McKee’s Twitter being gone, “shutting the fuck up” is all hers. Don’t worry, she’ll be back, if she doesn’t already have another twitter account. In the meantime… let’s all catch up. My way of course… so pay attention, I don’t want to lose anyone important.

Don’t know who Michelle McKee is? You should probably just skip this post then… but if you are curious… this is where to start:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/05/anonymous-rape-steubenville-rehtaeh-parsons-oprollredroll-opjustice4rehtaeh?page=1

Here are the 3 of them together before it would all go bad:

Michelle McKee, her blogger friend Alexandria Goddard aka Prinnie, and the subject of the tweets that brought me back into discussing them all again… Deric Lostutter aka KYAnoymous (giggle).

If you do not know of the Steubenville Rape Case, hit your google and read up on it. It is a tragic story. I have written about it in other posts but don’t plan to get to deep into it in this post. What happened there was tragic and I’m sure many think the 3 mentioned above are heroes for making the case national news. At one time at least. Because things got very muddy. Again, not gonna get to deep into all that. But things got out of control that’s for sure.

I’m sure some of you are asking, how did I come to follow the whole saga. Well that would be thanks to MM7, which as I said in part 1 of this 2 part post ( I don’t think it will become a trilogy post… but who knows? Trilogies are always best in my opinion… but you all know that), MM7 and McKee were friends of some sort (I think they know each other from the Casey Anthony case and possibly Websleuths…. everyone seems to have come from Websleuths at some point… you all have been there… right?)

But it is this tweet that got the ball rolling:

CK drone tweet

The red graffiti on the tweet is by Murt, who claims someone from anonymous (what an oxymoron that is, “someone from anonymous”, if not an oxymoron then something just as screwy, because who the fuck is really anonymous? Any one who claims to be right… well as long as you have you Guy Fawkes mask) sent him the tweet.

Now I should stop here to let the uninformed know that this guy Murt (who I know many online do not like and think he’s quite creepy) has had an online feud with Michelle McKee for years and years and years.

I should also point out, that long after all this MM7 admitted the drone she found in her yard probably belonged to her then husband’s friend, who was living in their guest house, (yes, she told me this, meaning that, like I said many times, everyone seemed to like messing with MM7). I don’t know when MM7 came to the relegation that the drone did not belong to her”self created” stalker, but we all know at the time she relentless that this toy proved she was being stalked and now that she had tweeted to McKee about it, McKee didn’t skip a beat getting Murt involved.

In return MM7 didn’t skip a beat making Murt the star of her defunct blog:

https://mm7vslisk.wordpress.com/2013/04/29/murt-the-stalker/

https://mm7vslisk.wordpress.com/2013/05/04/just-when-i-thought/

https://mm7vslisk.wordpress.com/2013/05/01/you-be-the-judge/

Murt didn’t skip a beat making MM7 the star of his own “stalker playing victim” blog:

http://murtwitnessone.com/?s=drone

Radio didn’t skip a beat jumping in on all of it:

http://radionewz.net/2013/05/has-murtwitnessone-been-outed-as-being-in-a-sex-trafficking-ring/

Let me stop once more to say that I’ have blogged about most of this in other posts and you can find them all by clicking on different tags or categories you see connected to this post. The good thing about it all coming back up though is that I can add and update things. Like show you the actual emails between MM7 and Murt:

murt first email to mm7

murt email to mm7

For some reason Murt wrote MM7 twice… but I doubt he would have written at all if he knew what the reply would be:

mm7 reply to murts email

Yea, I bet he wanted to take his emails right back… or maybe not… Murt is a strange guy to say the least and he is attracted to the back ‘n forth. Regardless he replied:

murt second email to mm7

And with that they were all off to the races. It led all the way to Murt being the subject of a certain blog:

https://officialshannangilbert.wordpress.com/murt-many-names-many-agendas/

Before we go on I have to mention that when I went back to look at old posts I made on all this there are “links” that don’t go through any more. This is something I notice from time to time when reading my old posts, and this sucks. Sometimes the places I have linked just are no longer there, other times they may have been removed from people who don’t want me linking them here. It’s frustrating though, because I know what that is like reading at old places like “Catching LISK” and “LISK.com”. There are all sorts of “links” that no longer take you to where they once did. And that is the internet for ya. So since we are going back over all this, just in case the “link” to the Flukeyou post on Radionewz above doesn’t go anywhere or you are just to lazy to go click it… here is the post:

flukeyou on radio

Here is the 5 comments that go with this post:

comments radio fu1

comments radio fu2

That is definitely MM7, but as she comments, it’s probably not Fluke Boy Joey, and the Truthspider is probably also not really Truthspider at least not the Brendan Murphy one. Which is quickly demonstrated in a post supposedly written by Truthspider:

truthspider post on radio

And here is the 4 comments that went with the post:

comments radio spider1

comments radio spider2

comments radio spider3

MM7, once again letting us know these are not really Truthspider and Flukeyou (I wonder if that is the real Mockingbird, you know from Websleuths, yes I’m very curious about that). So these posts were just someone at Radio keeping the beat going… nothing wrong with that, right?

Keeping the beat going is what we all have in common. I wonder if MM7 ever realized that her friend McKee got her involved with people who were really making fun of her in a way. Yes, to me it seemed Radionewz was making fun of MM7 as much as they were Murt. If you read Radionewz enough, you get the feeling they think that about all those they write about. Yes, like this place in a way… but I lump myself right into it all, I admit I’m no better, well at least not much better… I’m not sure Radio does this… nor does Michelle, Murt, or MM7 for that matter. Ugh… 3 M’s.

They all think they are the sane ones and those out there playing the “back ‘n’ forth” with them are obviously crazy. And I agree… lol. Am I contradicting myself again? Sorry… it’s unavoidable.

I talk about parallel lines a lot, and I have to say, I see them here in 3 different groups connected by 3 crazy ladies (man, that comment might get me in trouble). McKee and her buddies Prinnie and KY (the 3 avenging angels turned 3 stooges) worked together, supposedly to help someone who had been victimized. Later they all turned on each other and accused the others of betrayal.

McKee then connects to MM7 who we all know was part of a group who worked together supposedly to help someone who had been victimized (in this case it was the victims and families of the victims in the LISK case). Later they all turned against each other and accused the others of betrayal.
MM7 then connects to Dorothy Price Hill who was part of the whole Lawless America/Bill Windsor group who worked together to supposedly help someone who had been victimized (in this case it was the countless lemmings wronged by out corrupt court system). Later they all turned against each other and accused the others of betrayal.
Yes, parallel lines. And almost all of them end in lawsuits or threats of lawsuits.

See, all very entertaining like I said. And, also like I said, very predictable… “the beat goes on”.

But Michelle McKee disagrees and just wants me to “catch up while shutting the fuck up”.

So are we all caught up? McKee, Prinnie, and KY got together to go against the evils of Steubenville. Some say questionable tactics were used by the 3 of them (parallel lines), which also brought the group Anonymous into, once again, questionable light. I’m not trying to start a fight with Anonymous, I have said before, the idea of Anonymous is beautiful to me, but in the whole of things, because anyone and everyone can be Anonymous, the fights they chose and the tactics they use are often questioned. And it isn’t getting any better for the group… the last 2 big operations against Trump and ISIS haven’t done a whole lot… the last I check both are still thriving. I’m just saying, maybe Anonymous needs to take a good look at itself… if that’s at all possible. “Itself” is a question on its own when it comes to Anonymous.

I got sidetracked… sorry.

McKee, Prinnie, and KY, under all the pressure, self destruct in a way and turn against each other. Which you can see played out in the posts of Radionewz way back in 2013, take a look:

http://radionewz.net/2013/10/michelle-mckee-to-subpoena-all-of-steubenville-rhinaman-goes-almost-hollywood/

This is from October 2013 and begins:

radio on mckee suepenas

See? Entertaining, ironic, funny, sad… all the things I said and more. In case you don’t see… this is about McKee planning to subpoena everyone in Steubenville back in 2013 and right now, the thing McKee want’s me to catch up on, the thing everyone is mad at KY about (now), is that KY is subpoenaing them all:

mckee sepeona

Yes, Michelle… you are your own worst enemy, we all are. There are some interesting comments on that Radio post:
comment radio on mckee lunatic

There, my crazy comment isn’t so far off then, right?  And I couldn’t agree more with Anita Sedative… clean up your own backyard before going into others… I say this all the time, don’t I… glass houses and all that? What else was said in the comments?

comments from radio on mckee meltdowns

Ahhh… good stuff. Want more?

http://radionewz.net/2013/10/michelle-mckee-now-blames-a-prinnies-doe-for-feeding-info-to-kyanonymous/

Lots of good comments in that one… way to many for me to snip… so you’ll have to click on the link and read for yourself (if the link still works whenever you read this).

Here’s 3 good ones I had to snip:

radio mckee anonymous

radio mckee ecorcisom

radio drunk mckee tweets1

radio drunk mckee tweets2

radio drunk mckee tweets3

Can I get a “Wow Bob Wow”?

In the comments of Michelle McKee Part 1, the subject of whether radio takes things too far came up… that’s up to the individual I guess… I’m sure McKee felt they did back then. Just as KY seems to think others took it to far now. I’m sure they all think I take things too far. And maybe I do. Then again maybe I just go where it’s taken. Again, that’s up to the individual.

I myself like reading at Radionewz and this blog is highly influenced from me reading there. They even summed this all up much simpler than the Frankenstein Monster you just read:

http://radionewz.net/2016/03/does-the-stuebenville-drama-ever-end/

radio new post1

radio new post2

Great post. Glad it was all summed up… I guess my own post really isn’t needed. Damn, another waisted 2110 words.

But since we took this journey to “catch up” (and we are really caught up now) I have to ask:

Was my tweet really so far from the mark?

Let’s look at it again:

zw tweet to radio and mk

I find it quite acceptable and right on the mark.

I have to stop… there isn’t much more to say… alright there’s always plenty more to say, but those eggs ain’t gonna color themselves.

Caught up and now shutting the fuck up… for now at least… again… trilogies are always the best!

The End?

Things We Are Not Gonna Talk About

Wow… it’s been a busy couple weeks.

Been very busy in RL, but also in blog stuff… it’s just been all off-blog, blog stuff.

I wonder if that sentence is a clear one… often when I’m writing I forget that just because I understand what I’m writing, doesn’t mean it’s understood by those who read what I have written.

I’ve said it before, part of that is because sometimes some things I write are meant for certain people to understand… certain readers. Also somethings will get different understanding by different readers. If you don’t understand that, it’s probably meant for someone else… lol. Besides, that’s not what I’m talking about… I’m talking about things I write that are from me, so of course I know what I mean… but it may not be so clear to the reader… I try not to do that… but narcissist… remember? Sometimes (all the time) I’m writing for me… and it just picks up a couple of you lovely readers for some reason. I apologise for my occasional lack of explanation. LMFAO… like I don’t over explain everything… so here we go…

Off-Blog means things from the blog discussed off the blog… in emails… social media… phone calls… and texts. These discussions can be with a reader, a commenter, or a blog subject (most of the time it’s a 3-in-1). It may also mean actions that happen off the blog by a reader, commenter, or blog subject… including me… I read, comment and am often a blog subject. So easy enough… Off-Blog just means blog related stuff happening off the blog.

What else in that sentence… oh yea, RL… it stands for Real Life… and IL is Internet Life, they come right from this blogs title, and yet I know there are quite a few people who don’t know what they meant.

That’s something I totally get. When I was first reading around LISK.com and Catching LISK the abbreviations drove me crazy. I’d be reading back and forth trying to remember what each one was, or who they were. So when someone asked me (Off-Blog) the other day what CPH and CKB were, I had to laugh a little. They are initials, but more importantly, they make it a lot faster to type out names. Still I know it can be hard to understand to a new reader. You have to chase back and forth to see where the initials came from and who they belong to. Because of my memory of how frustrating that was for me… I try to use full names near places I am using a lot of initials (of course they are not all initials of people, there are abbreviations and acronyms used that are not names of people, but most of the time they are names of people) I try to use the full name near it so you don’t have to search to far.

For example… I may use SOM a lot because it’s easier and faster to type out SOM then Son of Man… but I will still take the time to type out Son of Man a few times just so you don’t get to lost when you see SOM written instead.

And SOM is one of the 3 things we are not gonna talk about (great segue, huh?).

I know many of you still don’t know who SOM is, and since we are not gonna talk about him, I guess you still won’t know who he is. But to explain why we are not gonna talk about him, we have to talk about him… just a little.

SOM came to the ZW Facebook  quite a while ago, back when Nan Nan was still everywhere. We talked Off-Blog about my Cicada posts, but like Nancy, he seemed to like to turn disagreements or questions of their sometimes paranoid statements as proof I was a stalker of some sort and trying to trick them. There’s a lot more to it of course, but I’m trying not to talk about it, which I’m finding very hard to do while I’m talking about it. Point is, the reason most of you don’t know much about SOM is because I chose not to blog about him or entertain him in his nice guy/crazy guy routine… and he went on his way. As you long-time readers know, eventually Nancy went away as well, but it took a little time because Dorothy was in her ear… spreading her disease.

So life would have gone on without us ever having to talk about SOM (or not talk about him, I’m a little confused now, I better get to the point of the point) except of course… he returned. At first he was playing all nice, had a few discussions OFF-Blog about the Gnostic Gospels I enjoyed, but I knew that change would come and it did.

All of a sudden, I am a stalker again, though once again, someone had to come stalk me to tell me about it. Then Linda and Donna are attacked just for trying to set the poor guy straight. Yes attacked, learn the real meaning of the word Dorothy, it’s what you nuts do to others on the internet, not what you think is being done to you, which is people putting you nuts in your proper place. And that proper place is far from the internet.

Whoa, got a little carried away there.

OK, I calmed back down, lol… now what was I not talking about? Oh yea…

I still didn’t want to blog too much about SOM, again, he reminds me of Nancy way too much and I just feel he’d be better off without the internet interactions that always seems to be stalking in their mind. It’s like negative attention is at least attention and they so desperately need it. But he was relentless, posting all over the ZW Facebook page all sorts of crap (at one point saying I was a transsexual clown). I quickly started to see a new likeness between Nan Nan and SOM… Dorothy Price Hill (DPH if you didn’t know).

Some of SOM’s comments made me think, like Nan Nan, he had Dorothy in his ear about me… something he made even clearer with comments like these:

som dph life to blog

som richard dorothy kids 42

Yep, I think DPH got to SOM.

But since these are up, let’s get the age right. I was 42 three years ago… in fact it was discussed in my very first real post here on WordPress:

https://zeroprophetblog.wordpress.com/2013/03/10/42/

I say first “real” post, because my actual first post was this:

my first post

Man, how right that post turned out to be.

You also see SOM decided to follow in many other of my “stalkers crying stalker” and decided to use the “R” word, something long time readers knows is a no-no here on the ZW… lol.

At this point I was itching so bad to make a post about all of this but just didn’t want to go down that Nan Nan road again. Plus I was trying to write a post on the then upcoming Iowa Caucus. Which I never did get to. In fact I just deleted the one paragraph I did write… Iowa’s done… New Hampshire only a few days away… we’ll get back into all that soon enough, still plenty of time to talk politics before we get to the finish line.

Still, SOM was all over the ZW Facebook saying all sorts of crap. I thought maybe a time out would calm him down… so I banned him from the ZW (Zero’s World) Facebook.

Long time readers may remember I have only banned 2 people from the ZW Facebook, Dorothy and Nancy. Both were for a short period, and both have long ago been unbanned. So that made SOM the third person to have to be banned… but it didn’t calm him down, only started him making posts about me on his own Facebook page. Some messed up stuff too, all along calling me a stalker, even though I was doing all I could not to blog about him and believe me, I had posts lined up in my head.

Well, after a few days of SOM littering his Facebook with comments about me I decided, fuck it, let’s do this, and I was gonna blog about all of it.

Then I guess SOM had a moment of clarity and realized he was behaving rather stalkerish and removed everything he had been writing about me on his Facebook.

Well, alright, that takes care of that… no need to not talk about it anymore… but since we kind of are, there a couple of real funny things SOM posted about me, that I have to clear up. Because even though they were really funny, and I enjoyed them very much, they just aren’t true.

som 0 women

I am not a musician. I never learned an instrument and I can’t sing, no matter how much I love to do it. I do tend to still have groupies though… so point taken.

som cnn meme

This is my favorite one. It has a threat of turning me into a meme, great idea! And a threat of turning me into CNN, another great idea!

But I have to be honest here, SOM wanted to let CNN know I was in Anonymous , which very well could be true, anyone with a Guy Fawkes mask can be Anonymous… but as any long time reader here knows, that is why I wear the mask from time to time. I’m not in Anonymous… I wear it to show anyone can have a Guy Fawkes mask… it don’t make them a hero in any way… no heroes… just zeros (I’ve been saying that a lot lately in RL, thought I’d throw it into IL as well).

I love that you like my VD video so much… but truth be told… me wearing the mask is not an endorsement of Anonymous, but more of a diss at it. So instead of reporting to CNN about me being in Anonymous, maybe you should report me to Anonymous for dissing them and wearing their mask…lol. But really I hope you do neither. I was very pleased to see you pulled all the stuff you were saying about me and this is a great place for us both to move on. I wish you nothing but luck and hope we never have to not talk about this again.

Next thing we are not talking about is John. I know many of you saw her comments and thought it could be Dorothy… I assure you it was not. In fact they don’t know Dorothy and don’t want to know Dorothy. And as much as I’d like to talk more about this (it would be nothing but good for the blog, but sometimes the stuff that happens Off-Blog has to stay Off-Blog for the better of bigger things then this blog) that is all I am gonna say (or not say) about it. I’m happy to pick up a new reader though.

Alright one last thing we are not gonna talk about. The TAL comments. If you have read them you are probably thinking “another nut with a story of seeing or knowing something”, and at first I thought the same thing. In fact I had hope NERD had returned under a new IP. Oh how I’d love that (NERD, anytime you want to drop me an email, please do). Believe it or not, so far this person checks out. Not NERD. 😦

So is their story true? Well they say it is. And I think anything about Burke is possible now. But again, we are not talking about this… though maybe we will in the future. That’s up to TAL. For those who have not seen TAL’s comment, maybe they will tell their story in the comments of this post and we can continue not talking about it there. If their story is true, then maybe this needs to be talked about. And again, they checked out. All 3 of these people we are not talking about have checked out. Real people from what I can see.  TAL seems like a good person who really just questions if they saw something important that was not taken seriously by Burke. I’ve heard these things before, people claiming to have gone to police, but the police didn’t want to listen. And maybe LE has their reasons for not listening or believing the stories. Maybe LE has good reason for saying every suspicious POI is not a POI.  But LE takes their time taking these types of cases seriously, just ask any of the victims families who tried to report their loved ones missing. I’m not trashing LE (Law Enforcement, but I think most of you can figure that one out) I’m just stating the sad truth in cases like LISK. Besides, giving Burk’s current address, LI LE (Long Island Law Enforcement, see you’re getting the hang of it) deserve a little trashing. They’ve brought on the scrutiny they will deserving get (that may be an opinion, but it sure fills like a fact). I definitely think TAL wants their story out there, that’s why they chose this blog to comment on. But I’ll leave that up to TAL.

For now, I’m gonna go find something we can talk about…

One More Time… Why

I’ve made it very clear that I enjoy any and all feed back on my blogs. Comments from the haters, the curious, the crazies, and the more informed are all welcome and make the blogs all the more interesting and informable. There are also quite a few of you that I talk with outside the blogs. Mostly in e-mails (mine is zerodinh@rocketmail.com) or on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/zerosworld/?ref=hl

But also in a few phone calls.

I love hearing from people and discussing the different subjects from the blogs. Of course most people want to talk about the LISK case and that’s fine. Some like to discus the case and others want to discus those who used the internet to manipulate the case (that might be a little too much, but then again some did manipulate it in ways). Since I spent over a year of my life looking very deeply into this subject and those involved (ie. Fluke, MM7, Jen, Dorothy, etc.) I love to discus those parts of my blogs and help in any way to explain any parts of them or answer any questions I can. I really like to hear from those who know some of these people I’ve written about and to hear their thoughts on why they are doing what they are doing.

Again, I talk to different people about different things, and really it’s the Milo/Quiet Pills posts that gets the most views, but it’s the LISK case and the leaches (too harsh… naw) who attached themselves to it that I get the most inquiries about off-blog.

And the most asked question has to be “Why do you blog about LISK and these people?” or “What made you start blogging about LISK and these people?”. Didn’t Dorothy herself ask me this long ago?

zero Fb dph1

Yes, it’s been asked hundreds of different ways, in fact dawhoda just asked it:

dawhoda why

Like I said it’s been asked a hundred different ways… and I have answered it a hundred different ways. Just in the blogs alone I explain this over and over, so some of you should just do a little more reading. But I also know we get new readers here all the time and they come across the blogs for different reasons and that is probably the first question when you see how much time I have devoted to this subject. So I’ll answer it one more time (notice I didn’t say one last time).

If you want to know how I came to blogging on the subject you have to go back to the first blog I started here on WordPress. It was called the Zero Prophet Blog or as some started calling it “The Red & Black“. I wrote a 3 part post explaining exactly how I first came to the places and people involved in the LISK circles:

https://zeroprophetblog.wordpress.com/2013/03/18/catfish-serial-killers-part-1/

https://zeroprophetblog.wordpress.com/2013/03/23/catfish-serial-killers-part-2/

https://zeroprophetblog.wordpress.com/2013/03/26/catfish-serial-killers-part-3/

I was quickly pulled in to all the comments from places like LISK.com:

http://web.archive.org/web/20110820063936/http://longislandserialkiller.com/2011/08/message-from-the-site-admin/

and Catching LISK:

https://mm7vslisk.wordpress.com/

and decided to make a side blog. It went through a few names as I wrote it, the first was The Long Island Serial Killer and The Internet… quite a title right. I know way too much, but the internet itself was what my blogging had been about, mostly (those who have read the “Red & Black” know that it was a kind of spiritual blog, but was leaning towards our use and misuse of the internet), and since this was the first side blog from it I had intended to make it about how serial killers may be using the internet not only to find victims, but in ways to keep track of and manipulate what was being said about them online. And I did discus some of these types of things. In fact at the beginning I thought there was a good chance MM7 and others were being stalked by a serial killer online. (that’s another question I get asked a lot, do I really believe a serial killer stalked any of these sites including mine, the simple answer is no. I don’t think the serial killer wrote here or any of my other blogs, or on MM7’s blog. I’m not so sure they never wrote on LISK.com or Websleuths, and if they didn’t write there I’m sure they read there. They could be reading this now. I doubt it, but you never know). That quickly changed though, like almost immediately (right about drone time). I quickly started to doubt all of it (and with good reason) and that changed the blog, actually changed both blogs. But this was even more down the line of what I was trying to blog about. People using the internet for nefarious reasons (that fits, right?), and as I continued to blog I continued to pull back layers of so strange onion (I’ve used this metaphor before to describe it, and it really does fit best).

That blog itself went through 3 changes all marked with disclaimers. The first part was just me and what I thought on things (it’s wrong in a lot of areas, but with all the games that were being played, that should be understandable), the second part I had started to talk to MM7, Jen, and others and really started questioning what was being said to me and in comments all over the internet. the third part is where i really dug in and started talking to everyone I could, mostly people who were part of LISK.com in anyway, since that was what the blog really became about, LISK.com and those who commented there. Which is why I changed the name of it to LISK.com Another Look:

https://liskdotcom.wordpress.com/

The more of that onion I peeled back, the curiouser I got. that’s the simple answer, and I believe I said it before, it is my curiosity that mostly brought me to all of this and kept me blogging about all this (long after the ending the LISK blog). My first question was the same… WHY? But if that’s not enough, and you need more of an explanation… there are plenty of other places to read it:

https://liskdotcom.wordpress.com/2013/11/11/for-any-new-readers/

https://liskdotcom.wordpress.com/2013/11/21/for-what-its-worth/

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2014/04/06/longislandserialkiller-com/

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2014/11/25/my-name-is-zero-so-nice-to-meet-you/

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2015/02/19/chronicles-of-crazy/

I’m sure there are more, but you get the idea.