You Can’t Win

I think we need a little break. Everyone is so upset and I feel a little responsible. So how about a nice sing along… it’s been a while since we had a good one. This one is my favorite song from The Wiz, “The Crow Anthem”. So hit play on the Michael Jackson video, the lyrics are down below. Hear it, sing it, feel it! Because, “you can’t win, you can’t break even, and you can’t get out of the game…”

[Verse 1]
You can’t win, you can’t break even
And you can’t get out of the game
People keep saying things are going to change
But they look just like they’re staying the same
You can’t win, get over your head
And you only have yourself to blame

[Chorus: Michael Jackson (The Crows)]
You can’t win, chile (You can’t win chile)
You can’t break even
And you can’t get out of the game

[Verse 2: Michael Jackson (The Crows)]
You can’t win, the world keeps moving
And you’re standing far behind
People keep saying, things will get better
(Just to ease your state of mind)
(So you lean back)(And you smoke that smoke)
(And you drink your glass of wine)

Sayin’ you can’t win, chile
You can’t break even
And you can’t get out of the game

[Bridge: Michael Jackson (The Crows)]
You can’t win, you can’t win no way
If your story stays the same
(You ain’t winning) No, no
(But it’s nice to see you, I’m awfully glad you came)
(Better cool it, cause it ain’t about losin’)
Then the world has got no shame

You can’t win, chile
You can’t break even
And you can’t get out of the game

[Verse 3: Michael Jackson (The Crows)]
You can’t win, you can’t break even
Ain’t the way it’s supposed to be
(You’ll be spending) No, no, oh
(Your little bit of money)
While someone else rides for free
(Learn your lesson) Ooo
(Refuel your mind before some turkey blows out your flame)

[Outro: Michael Jackson (The Crows)]
You can’t win, chile
(No, you can’t win) [4x]

You can’t win, chile
You can’t break even
And you can’t get out of the game
You can’t get out of the game
You can’t get out, woo, of the game, no, no


I’ve become so numb. But you know me, I always end up pulling it together. So let’s pull it together, together.

Can I get an encore, do you want more? I hope so, ’cause I’m ready to go one more round.

On December 27th 2013 I posted an Eminem video (The Monster) and Zero’s World was born. Eminem not only became the first thing posted each new year of the blog, but Eminem became the theme music to which I wrote most of the posts and hopefully the soundtrack to which you read the blog. Some people still don’t get why Eminem. I’ve explained this before and probably will again, like all things dealing with this place, it’s complicated. The important part is we have made it to year 4 and Eminem is here for us. I chose a hybrid track to put this last year into motion and it fits, since this blog is a bit of a hybrid blog. Mixing it all up.

I know along the way many of you thought I was shady. And with some of you the feeling was mutual. But as a close friend of mine would say, “You got me fucked up!”. I’m not really all that shady, in fact I’m as sunny as that California state I go on and on about. Ok maybe not that sunny, but definitely as bright no matter how dark you may find me. (Is anyone enjoying this wordplay?) Hopefully this final year of posts will show this in a better light. And some of you might start, seeing me less as the shady one and more of the Doc type. I’m not talking about Hackett either. I mean Doc like as in the one in charge or the guy who will put you on the couch (‘Member? Yea, I ‘member).

So, with all that being said (wordplay and all), Get your ass up for the doctor
One more time, get your ass up for the doctor, Come on now, here we go, cliff hanger, it’s another club banger. Got you hangin’ on the edge of your seat.

Yep, here we go again. I’m gonna do what I do best. Get under the skin of the trolls and the righteous. Make you all think twice before you decide to fuck with another human being. I know, that’s a lot to ask for, but I’m gonna do my best to get us all there. I know there will continue to be naysayers and haters, but you had your chance. Times up, games over, you lose, I win ’bout to show these knuckleheads how to do this here. Yep, just call me turnip, because I’m ’bout to turn it up!  Sorry, that was bad.  You get me though, we are ready to actually go somewhere.

Ooh yeah, new year, next phase, begin, Look who’s got you goin’ crazy again. I do bring out the crazy in people, don’t I? Just look what I have done to our little loud mouth Fluke. He’s almost pathetic to look at now. Minus the almost. LOL, did I do that? Did I help make you irrelevant? Give it up Junior, I’m a trend, I set one every time I’m in, I go out and just come back full circle again. You a fad, that means your something that we already had. But once you’re gone, you don’t come back, too bad. Ha, ha!
That goes for all the loud mouth nuts. Dorothy, MM7, Jen, and all the others I haven’t really gotten to… yet. You’re off the map now, radar can’t even find you. We stay on the grind, you slip, we out-grind you. You walk around mad, you let your anger blind you. We walk around just playin’ the violin behind you. 
I love that line because it’s funny but also very true. While so many of you were bitching about me and my blogs and the good apples who found something here, we have been playing that mocking violin, exposing your blind anger and madness. It’s been quite a journey so far. This can’t go on forever though. Like I said, you had your chance, now enough with all the pissin’ and moanin’, whinin’ and bitchin’. Sit and observe, listen, you’ll learn if you pay attention.

Now can I get an encore, do you want more? I hope so, because I can’t do it without you. So for one last time I need y’all to roar!  I know I can count on a few of you to give this place a proper send off and finally get to the point. I bet some of you are saying, well get going, Now what the hell are you waitin for?  I hear ya, but we got to do this right. Because after me, there shall be no more.  Ok, that might be taking the whole narcissistic, arrogance a step to far, but I bet there won’t be anyone quite like me. So for one last time, nigga make some noise (that one’s for you Dorothy). But really, everyone, it’s time to speak up or shut up. So all my people on the left, all my people on the right, scream one last time. 

Funny, that right when I decided this blog had outlived its purpose it started getting attention again. Nerd and PS149 have returned (and yes, that is the “real” PS149), links to the blog are popping up in different places, some certain Websleuthers are dropping my name (by the way, comments like “Go ask your friend zero” do not go unnoticed, I have eyes everywhere! LMAO). It’s getting crazy out there again, the buzz is tremendous, we drop you all to sense it. I don’t gotta promote it for you to know that doc is off the benches. And I seem to have put together a pretty good team of my own. Well better than Dorothy’s crazy team anyways.  Just call us doody, ’cause we da shit. Or as Linda once so awesomely put it, “we are dope, you’re just dopes”.  You see, we keep the party rockin’ off the henges.
We ain’t showin’ off, we just goin’ off popular consensus.

Still my critics say that Doc is soft, Doc is talk, Doc is all washed up. To which I reply: Knock it off Who the fuck is Doc impressin’?
Doc is this, Doc is that, you got the wrong impression. You must be on the cock of Doc, cause Doc left you all guessin’.  No more guessing. It’s time for everyone to stop guessing. It’s time for everyone to just say what ya know. But know what ya say, because I’m here… no we are here (remember when I used to criticize everyone for saying “we” all the time, when they just meant “me”, then I started using “we” in jest, then I realized there really was a bad “we” out there, and now there is actually a good “we”.

So DJ take the needle and just drop it on the record (what)

We gon’ have this motherfucker hoppin’ in a second (bump bump)

That’s why we always save the best cut last, to make you scratch and itch for it like fresh cut grass.

You can try to deny it but I know you all are jonesing for me, for us, for this. So here it is, back one last time to satisfy your addiction. It’s time the war was won once and for all. By the way Dorothy (and I know you are hanging on every word) you can declare “war” on Zero’s World, it won’t change the facts that we already won most of the battles.  Cause we done swam with the sharks, wrestle with alligators. We took on Flukyou’s slander, Cristin’s lies, Dorothy’s delusions, Nancy’s insanity, McKee’s misdirection, Jen’s cryptic course, Son of Man’s crazy conspiracies, a hand full of self-important Websleuthers, a ton of sock puppets, as well as racist and bigots from all over Facebook and Twitter. And we won each time. No one wanted any of this, lol. In fact I bet a bunch of you are still worried about what you say out there. Posting then deleting, afraid it’s gonna show up in a post. And it probably will.
Some of you out there don’t want to admit it, but I think you are kind of a scared of this place. You see what can be done here. We go toe to toe, tit for tat, and we can play the back and forth all day. We can outwit, outplay, outlast!(speaking of which, did anyone else watch last season of Survivor? It was a good one) Point is, we took it all on and we are still standing. Most would probably agree, much, much wiser.
When I finally write that last post a year from now, I hope I have made some more new friends, I know I will have a few new enemies. Hopefully most will see through it all and realize some things are not so simple, some things aren’t always what they seem. But I know for some of you that’s just not possible. No matter what I say or do, no matter what is shown to you, you are gonna always see me as the “bad guy”. Every step that I take is another mistake to you (Caught in the undertow just caught in the undertow) And every second I waste is more than I can take…

Everybody sing along with me:
I’ve become so numb I can’t feel you there
I’ve become so tired so much more aware
I’m becoming this all I want to do
Is be more like me and be less like you

Man, how that rings true to me. I’ve been accused of many things since I first came across (and started blogging about) and Catching LISK, but the ones  that say I’m no better than Fluke or Dorothy or that my blog is as bad as MM7’s blog, those hit too close to the mark. To think I might have become as bad as those I spoke out against, well, that’s something I can’t let happen. Yes, it may just be an elaborate way to show how we all get sucked in. How the bullied become the bully, the sane become crazy. How the internet can twist us all. Yes it may have gotten a little out of control at times… But I can’t become this.

So let’s pull it all together… together.

Here we go… Hands up for the grand finale! And keep them raised, this is gonna be another roller coaster of a ride.

Now can I get an encore, do you want more?

So for one last time I need y’all to roar!

One last time I need y’all to roar…


Any Last Words? Part 2

It’s been a while since we all heard about Mari’s death and I said there would be a week of silence on the blog. Much more than a week has passed by, in fact a whole season has gone. Summer became Fall and Fall is half way through.

I recently wrote on here,  “the longer I stay away from the blog, the easier it is not to return”, and that keeps getting truer and truer. I like writing here and interacting with all the different readers (well most of you) but just letting go of all the madness that circles this blog and enjoying life these last few months has started me thinking towards ending the blog all together. I’m sure this won’t come to much surprise, I mean did anyone really expect it to go on longer than 3 years?

The problem is, even when the blog is quiet the nut gallery keeps on yapping. Dorothy declared war on the blog a few weeks back, I have to admit that brought a smile to my face. Some of you might have seen Fluke returned to let me know the blog sucks, thank you Fluke, coming from you that means a lot. I noticed some of the exiles like Susie S., Candyce B., and Crictin K. came out of hiding to say a few words about Mari, I don’t have anything to say about that, that was totally expected. In fact I expected many of the exiles to resurface and have things to say now that Mari is gone. I expected it, was worried about it, and saw it happen. I was a little surprised to see how many quickly turned on Mari, but I knew that would come too. Even her attorney who used to say how strong of a woman Mari was, and what a great mother she was, quickly changed his tune, accusing Mari of child neglect and mental illness. Comments flying around about Mari being into witchcraft and arguments on the difference of black and white magic…. more of the crap the LISK case does not need.

A few have come to me asking my feelings on John Ray and I was not kind with my words. More than ever the guy seems like a snake to me. But I have had more time to think about it, and maybe he is just trying to help the Gilbert family in any way he can now. Maybe he is just trying to do right by Mari and Shannan by saving Sarra. I don’t know, and it’s really not for me to pass judgment. The Gilbert’s have had too much tragedy in their lives, I’ve said that many times before, and I don’t want to be part of any hurtful words towards them. I think most of my readers understand that and know of my careful skirting around when it comes to the Gilberts. That hasn’t changed with Mari’s death, in fact it’s only made it harder. I don’t want to be writing about any of this, but the time has come to stop putting a new post off or just stop posting. And I’m just not quite at the latter yet.

Still I will not judge or question any of the Gilberts and I know that puzzles some of my readers. Yes, many of us have questioned about mental states of the family and if this played into them connecting to others with questionable mental state. We have all long ago seen that connection in the interactions between the Gilberts and those like Dorothy, Joey, Jen, Candyce, Cristin, and the list goes on and on. Questions of bi-polar and schizophrenia as well as other mental illness surrounds them all. But these are things long ago known, and I don’t see the purpose to pounce on it all now. I still strongly feel hurt and sorrow for the Gilberts, they have suffered a lifetime of tragedy and therefore I can understand (in some way) the reasons they go about things or the mental instability that comes with such tragedies. I just wish it didn’t affect the Gilgo Beach case the way it has and does. But I don’t lay that blame on the Gilberts. That goes right down the line bouncing back and forth between the Jens and Cristins and ends right at the top of crazy with Flukeyou and Dorothy.

Can you tell I’m struggling with this post? I’m this close to deleting all that I’ve written so far…

Look, I agree that things like the Shannan Facebook memorial and Mari’s blog have let questionable people get involved with lies and misdirection. I think some of those who joined Mari on the vigils and marches on Oak Beach have done great damage to the case and hurt the lives of innocent people. Yes, it’s a mess but I don’t see how blaming the Gilberts or shinning spotlights on their tragic home life will help solve the LISK case nor stop all the nuts who pushed their ways into it all.

I’d like to think Mari is with Shannan and all that tragedy and heart ache between them has dissolved, giving way to pure love, forgiveness, and an eternity of happiness. I hope they await us all someplace where all the questions and pain of life’s hardness are forgotten.

Still I know the questions for all of us live on, and many will continue to search for answers and some will continue to spread lies to confuse the rest of us. The question is will this blog be a part of it any more?

If this is to be the last year of the blog, at the very least I owe my readers the best “ta da” I can.

So… any last words… any one?

Cristin? Some public apologies maybe?

Jen? I actually contacted Jen a short while ago to question her on something Mari had told me about Jen. Jen, of course denied it and questioned my purpose for contacting her. Classic Jen. By the way Jen, I know you are talking to people, I hope you are keeping to the truth and not some made up “cloak and dagger” shit.

Candyce? Susie? Any thing to say? Doubt it. Not under those names at least.

Nerd? I know you are still out there. End some of the confusion, I know you can.

Joey? I know you have some last words, but it will just be the same old shit.

Websleuthers? Where ya at? I’m looking forward to some of the things you all have to say. I doubt you will like what I have to say about all of you.

Nancy? Just kidding, no last words needed from you. In fact I beg you… keep it on your Facebook.

Dorothy? Nothing you can say will ever make up for all the crap you have said and done. But if you have any last words, get ’em out, because you know I will have plenty of last words for you.

That goes for everyone really. Truthspider, Son of Man, Dawhoda, Gino, Mr. Harvard, Radionewz, Julia, Michelle McKee, PS149…

Any last words?

Now’s the time.

Angry Music


I’ve been told that the music I listen to is bad for me. It’s too angry:

dph zero rap

new dph fb2

dph black music

LMFAO! Yes, some of my stalked stalkers really don’t like the music I listen too. I believe SOM said something like rap music causes kids to get guns and shoot people and Madonna’s music causes girls to become sluts. I’m paraphrasing and since he is no longer on Facebook I can’t go and read he exact words… but that’s close enough to what he was implying.

Well let’s take see what I’m listening to right now:

Holly shit!! Maybe there is some truth to what my oppressed, obsessers are saying.

There’s no telling what I’m gonna write about next… or who.

The music has taken over… all self-control has been relinquished to the demons of hip hop, punk rock, metal, and pop.

And no one is safe!

You Don’t Know

I feel a split coming on…

Dealing with online crazies can be harmful to your sanity… just saying.

Some of you just don know how this place can get…

Oh you know, but you actin’ like you don’t know…

Time to re-up.

Jumping The Shark (Again)

The title should tell you where we are going, after all we’ve been here once before:

If you haven’t read that post recently, you probably should now, but first you have to read this one:

Yes, before you read on you might want to read “The Big Bad Id” and then “Jumping The Shark”. For those who still don’t get the titles, The Id has to do with the psyche, you can read about it here:,_ego_and_super-ego

The title implied my own Id was writing that post. It was an ongoing theme on the blog back then. My Id has been mostly in check lately, but you never know when he might gain control again.

“Jumping the Shark” refers to a Happy Days episode:

Yes, back in May of 2014, this blog “Jumped the Shark” bringing up the candy girl from Brooklyn. But it wasn’t the end of the world, the blog went on. It may have got me a few more enemies as well as made a few more out there think I was no better than those I blogged about… but the blog went on.

It lost readers, gained readers… it went on. Now if you read those old posts you’ll see I was warned by Candyce that if I posted anything about her I would be reported to police. Again that was back in April of last year, and I did indeed post about it in May of last year… but the blog goes on.

So many have threatened in different ways about my blogs… it has always seemed silly to me… and of course the blog goes on.

Well let’s see if I can get away with jumping that shark again.

First off I just want to once again point out, I did my best not to mention Candyce much in my old LISK blog, I was warned by many that she was trouble. I was told she was an “infamous multiple screen name poster” and “a great deal of the crazies on are her under pseudonyms”.

I can’t say I wasn’t curious though, because if she was a master sock puppeteer, then maybe she had already commented on my blogs somewhere. I must admit I still wonder who the likes of NERD and AMD are. But I digress.

It was Gino aka Hmmmm… that brought it all to the blog:

Looking for someone called “Imput_Required”.  No body seemed to know a Hmmmm… or Imput_Required at first, but then someone calling themselves “Michael” replied:

mg reply to hmmmm

Although these comments were in April and I waited till May to blog about it, I had quickly sent e-mails to both Hmmmm… and Michael. First to just see if both the e-mails they left respectfully were real, quite a bit are not. So I was in the middle of e-mails with both of them when Hmmmm… answered Michael’s comment with this:

hmmmm mg reply

And there it was…

I know, the old posts above covered all this so why drag it all back up now? Well once again, I didn’t. This time that was someone calling themselves broniefascist:

bf comment

But before I even saw the comment, Hmmmm… was once again involved:

hmmmm bf reply

Before I even get started here I can’t let that screen name go by without saying something. Broniefascist? Are you serious?

If you don’t know what a Bronie is, read this:

I couldn’t just let that slip by.

Hmmmm… is probably right, there is no reason for the My Little Pony lover to post anything about Candyce here, especially her real name. (Which by the way, last time I checked on Candy Girl she said she just got married, so her last name should be different now, no?)

Hmmm… (can I just call him Gino for now, every time I type Hmmm… I leave off a m  and I have to go back and correct it, I like it better with 3 ms. Plus my spell correct doesn’t like it, so Gino from now on, ok?) Gino may have a reason to questions bronie’s sudden comment, outing Candy Girl, but I just found it funny coming to her defense so quickly after all he had told me about her and what she had to say about him. So I decided to play devils advocate, or get Gino’s goat, you get what I mean, I messed with him a little:

zero and gino

I quickly realized Gino was trying to deny ever talking to me about Miss Candyce (wait, that’s Mrs. Candyce now). He had no idea what I was talking about… lol. he had no idea that I wrote all about it all ready. Right there in those links above. He told me to go ahead and post about what ever it was I was talking about,  and I let him know I did… long ago:

zero and gino2

Once he realized he was way behind in what he was jumping back into, he wasn’t so cocky… or happy:

zero and gino3

He gets caught in a lie and I’m the bitch. I get it, he thought all the shit he talked about Candy Girl were in private emails between him and me so therefore it was fine for him to come here and say he never discussed her with me at all. Yes, that makes sense. Look, I’m pretty good at keeping things in confidence, and to those who have asked, and I have said I would, I have. But I never told Hmmm… I mean Gino that our emails would be kept in confidence. So Gino’s assumption of that is gonna back fire here in a few moments, which I’m sure will make Gino think even more poorly of me… oh well.

First though, if you’d like to read the whole back n forth of these comments you can read them here:

You have to go down a little in the comments, but actually there are lots of good readings in these comments, I was looking them all back over… good stuff. If you don’t read the comments of theses posts, you are missing half the action. though there are many that only read the comments and then want to complain about the blog. not fair at all if you ask me, right Gino. So let’s get to the actual emails I received about all this back when Gino and michael/girl commented on my LISK Blog.

This is what I first wrote to Gino:

zw email to hmmmm

Like I said, whenever I actually write someone an email, it’s mainly to see if the email is even real, and most of the time they are not. But this one went through and Gino did reply, and he had some interesting things to say. I shared emails with the Micheal/Girl at the same time and she had a lot to say. I also shared messages with Candyce during all of this, she had a lot to say. Most of it was covered in the posts linked above, but just for the hell of it here’s all of Gino’s actual emails:

hmmmm email1

hmmmm email2

hmmmm email3

hmmmm email4

hmmmm email5

Some may say I posted all that just because of this comment left by Gino:

hmmmm gossip comment

And there may be some truth in that, but it also has a lot to do with this comment:

zero and gino2b

There ya go Gino, it’s all there.

In all seriousness though, I found the whole episode with Gino, Michael/Girl, and Candy Girl, suspicious and leading. They all wanted to get this out to a stranger, a blogger, who was blogging about all this… so again, I’m just giving them what they want right?

And some might not like that, I know.

But I can’t make everyone happy at the same time… that’s just impossible.

I am happy to let Gino and the girls slip back into the archive though, we’ll have to see how that goes, I definitely have no more time for them this year. This post took way to long to get out. besides, Gino, you aren’t that important. You claim in many comments that you were part of some community (while trying to turn that so-called community against me, lol, that stuff was great) but no one remembers you much. You say you were part of the chat page with Candyce and “a few other girls”. That says plenty to those who matter.

So go away, no one cares about you or Candyce, well no one but me. Dorothy said it best when she said “You know how zero obsesses”.

Shake It Off


Any new Cicada stuff out there? I haven’t even looked. But it’s that time of year.

I saw Anonymous is getting involved with the fight against terrorism:

And The Illuminati is taking over everything:

I bring up these 3 groups, because with all that’s going on in the world, it would be nice if we had some heroes… even some anti-ones.

But we are so involved in the back-n-forth. Victories are just the lead in to the next fight. Everyone’s pointing the finger at their oppressor and shouting demon! Actually we moved on from that… we now are pointing fingers at our accusers and shouting demon!

Even I, as I teach by example, have gotten too caught up.

Time to shake it off…



The Devil’s In The Details

Two months ago I posted “The Devil You Know” and “The Devil You Don’t Know”…  I had planned on posting the third part (which you are reading now, well sort of, this part would not have been there if I would have written it back in August, but I didn’t) shortly after. But it got really quiet everywhere again. And it was nice. I mean there was almost no response at all from the nut gallery over at FOTM (which I didn’t expect any really, I’m sure they tell themselves I’m irrelevant, and they may be right… self-named zero, right?). It’s just as well, I don’t have time at the moment to get into the craziness that resides at that blog. It’s like the tea-party and those at FOX NEWS got together, smoked some crack laced PCP, had sex, then had a baby… and they named it FOTM (Fellowship Of The Minds).  Common sense says RUN! But I’ll just skip away for now…

The whole idea behind the 2  “Devil” posts was to ask the question out loud,  whether to continue with the crazies I have been dealing with from LISK related sites or to move on to other crazies out there in the wild, wild, web. But, the question was rhetorical. I knew who would respond first and who I would continue on with (as I said, I didn’t expect any response from FOTM, they like their crazies all in one nut sack. Easier to control the misinformation that way and how many times do I have to say Dorothy and I are BFFs?) So I knew it would be the Flukeyou/Dorothy/Nancy team to actually reply, and I was ready with a third part to the “Devil Trilogy” where we could bring up another question… will get to that at the end of this post. So I sat back and waited.

Eventually, Nancy and Dorothy had some things to say on each other’s Facebook, but that was expected. They have a zero quota to keep up with, and must mention me at least every nine days. I wasn’t so sure if Fluke would comment again… at least not so soon… but he did. So I decided to quickly get to the new post, wrote down the title which I had already planned, “The Devil’s In the Details”. Then started gathering the different things I wanted to discus and link (see it was gonna be about how all the old things from “Dorothy’s Team” such as emails, posts IMs, etc. might need to be given a second look at to see if some of it can be understood better, see if any of it means anything or just proves they are all full of lies, games, and agendas. Something I’ve mentioned before and I’m actually gonna get to that part in a minute, so this parenthesis ramble is really not needed, back to Joey’s comments…)

So Joey made some comments:




Now I’ve already answered these in the comment section, but I wanted to post them as I see them, so you can see them as I do. I love the emails Fluke uses… and the zero’sazero still cracks me up. I also want to address something. Some people still ask how I can tell it’s the real Fluke aka Joey Scalise commenting here, and I think it’s pretty obvious it’s him, but hey, they do come from different IPs as you can see here. There were 2 different IP addresses used in the new comments, so it could be 2 different people, and I have said many times, some people may still be working together as teams to keep games going. But for sake of argument let’s just say it’s Fluke. I can explain why I think they are from him, but I don’t want to… yet… it’s all about the suspense now!

I will explain one thing though, from the minute I started my blog I kept a collection of screen names and their IP addresses. So did MM7, and she once sent me her list of IP addresses:

“linda”    108.
alphamale    208.
alphamale cell?    208.
Auntie G    76.
Babylon Barry    198.
BabylonBabyDoll    71.
C Peter Hackett    70.
Cheryl    69.
CPH comment    69.114.
CPH comment 2    24.38.
CPH comment 3    24.191.
Dorothy    108.41.
Dorothy 2nd IP?    74.108.
Dr. Michael Nuccitelli    67.
Ed Boyle    65.
Hackett?    209.
Jackie    70.
Jennifer cell    208.54.
Jennifer home    173.52.
Joe Scalise Cingular    198.228.
Joseph Scalise @ home    71.224.
justiceforever    (2 Ip Addresses)
Lisa’s cell    174.*
Lorraine Waterman?    76.
maineiacgirl    67.
Mandamas    97.
me    184.88.
Michael Dougherty?    24.
Murt?    184.
my cell    70.193
my cell-not home    70.193.
mysteryadikt    (2 Ip Addresses)
new IP for Hackett?    68.
ps149 #2?    166.
ps149?    208.
Scalise @ work    173.163
Sherre @ work    198.
Sunflower    71.
Susie?    74.
Todd Harrison Yaskal    76
tooclosetohome    69.
wrote my full name    24.
Zero    76.

Did you make her list? I obviously have removed most of the IP numbers, but MM7 gave me the full numbers. I know she did it to help, and I think most of the time MM7 might have been helping in her mind, but her time to get it all out in the open has come and passed, she feels she has done nothing wrong, I know many who disagree, and I am one of them.

Anyways,  I found it weird that these were the only ones she kept, I had much more, but I guess these were the ones she was pretty sure about. I compared her list to mine and started figuring some things out, but her list was a mix of screen names, people she thought they were, and people she knew they were. So it wasn’t until I had her blog to read as an administrator that I was able to truly understand her list of IP addresses.

Again she gave her blog to me freely, and before any of you say, she gave you info and then you used it against her, I’d like to point out, that until I saw her blog from her view, I didn’t know how messed up it really was. Plus I did not ask for it and she still sent it to me twice! I wouldn’t even open the link she sent the first time, I was very leery of opening links people sent me and could not understand why she would send me it:


Again think of me as you want, but part of the problem, actually a lot of it, was and is that some of those involved here were/are sharing so much information, misinformation, and personal information with everyone. Plus, as I said, reading that blog as it really was, made me see MM7 in a final light as far as I’m concerned. But I still think she could help nail the likes of Dorothy and Joey if she really wanted to. So whether she thinks she is helping or not, I think she could and doesn’t… plus she helped confuse a lot of stuff in my opinion. Yes, my overly public way of putting things out there may be wrong to some of you, but the private passing of info was way more damaging and in my opinion, still, shedding a light on all of it can only help. Well, most of the time I think that. Sometimes I think we should all just shut up. but that ain’t happening.

So Joey made some comments… yawn. Dorothy and Nancy’s stuff was much better:

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This one cracks me up. Hopefully I don’t have to explain why. But I will. Nancy actually stumps Dorothy here. Dorothy tries though. I don’t know which is funnier, Nancy’s classic reply to Dorothy’s lame attempt to confuse her about who I am or Dorothy’s hilarious explanation?  If I’m pretending to be Richie, then who am I? Oh, maybe you don’t know, but then how would anyone know what I look like? Oh the whole thing is such a ludicrous, conundrum. It makes me laugh to tears. I bet Dorothy wanted to say “Zero is Richie”, but that would show their cards. Right? Get it? Sort of? Hope so, cause I’m moving on:

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I gotta clear this up, red and black are a lot of people’s favorite colors. I AM NOT MIKE! In fact growing up, as I have said many, many times, I idolized Nikki Sixx, his favorite colors listed once in a magazine were red and black, up till then mine was just red, but from then on it has always been red and black. No dots to connect, I just really idolized Nikki Sixx (still do, just got the new Sixx A.M. album “Modern Vintage” and I LOVE it! Playing it in the car every day, sorry, back to the post). I really wish you would stop seeing everyone as your ex. It’s wrong and it’s unhealthy. I’m done with that whole game. I’m not Mike. I won’t say it again. (sigh… yes I will).

O.K. what else?

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Now why is Dorothy bringing up Florida to Nancy?

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Oh no she didn’t? Kind of weird that MM7 ain’t threatening to sue Dorothy. I mean that’s straight VENT BLOG SHIT all over again. But then Murt has some messed up stuff about MM7 on his blog:

I mean this is worse than anything I have posted, right? Although I do agree with Murt (and the fact that MM7 made me agree with Murt only adds to that mountain, Murt is a real creepy guy, I mean really creepy) that there is some fishy stuff with the whole Drone talk, and I do think Murt was brought in to help confuse that whole situation, but my point here is, this guy is right in Florida, why not sue him or threaten him in some way? Maybe there’s more to this Murt connection then I thought. But again, we moved to far ahead.

This last one gave me mixed feelings:

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“Who is this sociopath?” LMAO, funny stuff, but again, please, don’t mention my children in your BS posts, I’m sure I covered this… last warning.

Also it’s absurd to say I attacked The Scalise family, or Cristin’s family, or Dorothy’s family. I won’t even dignify it with a response. But hey, she posted a link to my blog. That was helpful. I like when world’s collide!

I was ready to respond to all of this and get to this post (yea, I haven’t even gotten to this post yet, not the one I had planned already) but then I decided to wait. I mean why jump when they want me to? I know a lot of you think I do. So I didn’t. I took the Sunday I had planned to write this and just relaxed… but now I feel I should finnish this “Devil Trilogy”! It might have lost something in the wait… or gained too much… I’m not sure which… but onward we go…

So as I said, after I wrote those 2 posts 2 months ago I decided to take a new look at some old stuff for the third post, like this email from Dorothy:

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Wow, Nancy Evans Figat is mentioned. I didn’t know the name back then so it meant nothing to me, but with hindsight I can see Dorothy was trying to play the “Mike” game way back then, it just never took off because no one knew what she was talking about. I see another name that might mean something:

Pete Fiorello.

Or is it Peter Fiorillo?

Dorothy brings this name up a lot. And others have mentioned it to me in private. Am I suppose to chase this name like I have done other names so many times before. All of us chasing names and theories. Will it ever lead any of us to answers?

Well then let’s get it all out there in the open. Anything else in that email that stands out? And how about some of these other names I have seen out there:

Rebecca Hayashi

Peter Brendt

Alison Raffaele

Inge Curtis

Matthew Hackett

Rebecca Dennis

Joe Gargiulo

Gino Fiorelli or is it Eugieno Hernandez?

(NOTE: It was October 21st when I was writing this and planned on finishing and posting it the next day. But in real life I was dealing with car issues and other problems I won’t get into here,  they did all eventually work out, I know a few of you knew about them and I just wanted to update you. Also Linda came to Las Vegas, blowing my mind a little. We had a great time, and I enjoyed meeting her. She is just as she says she is. This made me wonder if I should continue… I mean, real people are involved here. Some good, some bad, some bat shit crazy… do I continue or run away like some of the others. So I stopped, right where the real post would have originally started back in August or September. Dorothy’s email and a list of names, which might have been larger had I continued… but again, I had stopped…  I should also point out Nancy had been constantly IMing me on Facebook, and others said they were also in conversations with Nancy as well. You could guess how those went and probably be right, they all come back to the same stuff, all though now we are getting away from Nazis and into extraterrestrials (more on all that soon, patience and suspense everyone!). Then someone let me know Nancy asked about my wife… Why would Nancy bring up my wife to someone she doesn’t really know? Why would Nancy bring up my wife to someone who does not know my wife? All right fuck it, let’s finish this post and let the chips fall where they may. 11/6/14)

I could go on name dropping, like many here like to do… but let’s stick to some sort of story line:




Does this email Cristin sent me back in May of 2013, which is just an email she had sent Jen back in April of 2013 help explain anything? It does show the connection between them all. And that the break up came right before Jen came out in my blog. I’m thinking she was there all along, but now that the friendship was over she wanted to chime in on a few things. Funny thing is Jen and Cristin often sent me the same emails “from” or “to” each other to try to show me how it was the other one who played the games… how many of those emails are worth relooking at?

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Is there something to be learned from the fall outs with Mari?

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These ladies went out of their way to discredit each other to Mari, how much of it went on to be games and attacks on each other? By the way, that screen shot was sent to me by Jen, so the red scribble on it is hers, I believe trying to show me things… but the more they all tried to show me things, the more it looked like a bunch of crazies wrapped up in a never-ending caucus race. I’ve said this before, correct?  So, are there things to be learned from  these old feuds? Or how ’bout the fights that poured over from Websleuths?


Cristin sent me that a while back. It was one of her reasons for thinking PS149 was stalking her and was indeed CPH (Dr. Hackett). There are lots of emails and stuff on this subject, as well as the things on Websleuths and that can still be seen. I’ve already clearly stated my opinion on whether CPH has ever read or been involved in any of the blogs, it was “not a chance” and nothing to this date has changed my mind on that. But I do wonder how many from Websleuths got involved in the games of “Catching LISK“.  There are lots of this that spill into Websleuths world, a world I’m not suppose to talk about out of Websleuths, which kinda bothers me. Why does that place have to be kept so hush-hush? There is stuff to be learned there… lots of stuff. Right? So why not let people talk about it? What is there to hide? Something I’d like to get more into… but right now I’m focused on its past with MM7 and Flukeyou and the mess that came out of it. Untangling everyone,  if you will.

So was it just a feud between sleuthers that bled into a feud against lonely crazy ladies that tried to cling onto a tragic case? One that Fluke used to focus his own agendas on…

A bunch of feuds between some selfish people??? Is that all it all was? Is? Or was/is there something more to all it?

Is there stuff to be read in an old post like this, that may help?

Again, reading this a second time (I found it a while back) with hindsight, might help understand some things. I mean, it isn’t hard to tell who wrote some of that stuff knowing what I know now. And that takes us back to some old gamers I’ve been warned to just leave out… should all of it be left alone then? Is it worth making some of these people account for their actions, explain their lies?

Most people think there is nothing to any of the lies and games peddled by all these people and sites… and I must admit that they keep leading me back to nothing… and yet in the same breath most say they think something is there… somewhere… in the CCC stuff… or the Utopia Guide stuff…… or in the Oak Beach Residences like Joey or Hackett… or in the connections to other cases and suspects… from the suicide of  JB, the aquarium guy to the recent arrest of JB the possible serial killer… everyone has questions… everyone has connections… my question is… do we keep looking at old stuff even if it is from nut balls and people with agenda to compare to new stuff that may mean something? I mean can listening in on Flukeyou explaining to MM7 how he got his screen name help us with any REAL insight? Someone sent me a link to it as if it did:

You tell me… does any of this (and more like it, much, much more) help sort useful stuff from crap? I mean we all have stuff like this, right? Should it all be examined and weighed in on? At the very least it helps show how full of crap some people were/are. Right?

Or am I the crazy one here?


Jumping The Shark

So this is where I probably make more enemies. It’s just unavoidable at this time. I have been warned about Candyce and I had stayed away as long as I could, not because of the warnings, but because Candyce seemed to no longer be a part of the LISK Games. But with the new comments on the blog, I had to go digging.

I found Candyce yesterday and sent her an IM and she got back to me pretty quick, which is cool because a lot of people I have tried to contact lately aren’t so quick to talk to me…

Everything was fine while I explained the reason I contacted her, (explained about my blog,  the emails etc) and she came back saying Hmmm…. was the one who stalked her and that she had to go to LE to get it to stop. Once again we have 2 people both accusing the other of stalking and other bad behavior. Many of you “constant readers” know just how often this happens with those who got themselves involved in this.

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This does somewhat coincide with Gino’s story somewhat, though the choking part is new… at least to this story.

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These 2 have quite the stories about each other!

Anyways, Candyce went  and found my blog as we were sharing IM’s and she did not want her name on it. Here I have to explain something, many people don’t want me to mention them in my blogs, some are nice about it and say things like “I hope you can keep me out of this…” and then give me their reasons, almost all are afraid to be involved with all the “crazies” again, and again, I get it, and oblige to most. But then there are those who threaten me or tell me I can’t write about certain things they say… I think we have seen how well that way works. Take a guess which way Candyce went…

Like with some of the others, after I do my best to explain it all (something I don’t have to do) she threatens not to talk to me if I mention anything publicly… oops:

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Now it’s not that I’m such an asshole or that I don’t care if she is really afraid of Hmmm…. it’s just I hear this a lot. Everyone thinks someone else is a killer or stalker on here, something so far, I have seen no proof of, just a bunch of busy bodies who got into a game and then it all went to hell. All of it.

And there was more:

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Now here, all I meant was, if you aren’t playing games, I have no reason to blog about you, my blog is about game players… but she twisted it and well, things went downhill from there:

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Two things… I like how she tells me how a blog should be handled… lmao… second… “I’m Shady!”

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Not what I was saying at all, funny how this CB sounds like another CB… but really I don’t work like that…  I’m not wasting time here explaining my actions though, you get them or you don’t. I don’t think some of you get it:

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That should have been the end of it, in fact, if it had been, none of this would have been posted today, but Candyce just couldn’t stop herself… and well, now neither can I:

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Wow, I’m a tough guy, lol. No scratch that, I just have a tough guy persona… lmfao. Part of this seems kinda like a threat, one I’ve heard before, and we’ll have to see where it leads, but I have to say, the whole “I have a life” never get’s old when it’s from people who have had such a big part in all of this.

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So once again, someone is going to report my blog to the police… according to Dorothy, FBI is all over this blog, so no need.

All of that and then finally:

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And with that I was blocked! LMFAO… I have met so many funny people since starting Zero’s World, and Candyce is right up there. I need a life??? Yea, I  got one, a real busy one, but I will still make time for the blog, don’t worry. And yes I remember posting the “I will exploit all who come here attaching me to their madness” and I applaud Candyce for trying to use my own words against me… how did it work out for ya?

Yes here, I have probably jumped the shark… and I doubt many will be happy that I brought the candy girl back into all this… this blog should become a ghost town now… especially when I tell you that, Candyce is just one of the people I contacted yesterday… Susie has yet to reply and probably won’t, but we shall see.

So yes the Big Bad Id has fucked it all up! Run for cover kiddies!

The Big Bad Id

So once again things seem to be heating up behind the scenes. Did I do that?

Joey is threatening a new site this summer that he promises will blow us all away…  you know I’m a betting man Joey, and I’m betting it will be a big disappointment and won’t live up to the hype. But we’ve got all spring to talk about Joey’s upcoming site, there’s some new people to piss off right now… so here we go…

any one remember Hmmmm…. ?


They came on here last month looking for someone called “Imput Required”. They explained they had just found my blog and was wanting to see if some of the people he chatted with on where on here. I didn’t recognize the screen names Hmmmm…. or Imput Required and no one else seemed to either, but he said he only used the LISK Chat, which my constant readers know I brought up the LISK Chat site a while back, something I had never seen and not to many people had any input on it other than it was a haven for trolls. And just as he is explaining all of this another new reader found my blog and wrote:

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What?!? Two different people from LISK Chat find my blog over a year after it has been up (they both claim to just be Googling and saw my blog) and they remember each other?!? And who is this girlfriend Michael speaks of?

We didn’t have to wait long for that answer… because Hmmmm…. came right back with a reply:


WTF?!? Now there’s a name I had heard before… and yes these 2 new commenters got my attention… Anyone reading here saw the exchange between them, but what you didn’t see was the emails I shared with each of them… until now that is.

Let’s start with the Michael screen name, which was a very confusing screen name to choose to comment under on this blog… with Micheal Waxman, Michael Nucci, and 2 Michael Figats already involved somewhat. And though the email was under the name Michaellkwaku they told me that was not their real name nor the screen name used on They asked what my reason for blogging about all this was and I explained quite a bit in which they replied:

I understand it a bit better now, thank you. I appreciate you taking the time to explain all that to me. Like I said multiple times already, -and I promise this is the last time I will lol- I have nothing to do with the games, Flukeyou, MM7, Dorothy and everything else. I’ve only been somewhat active in the chat on and been lurking here and there. I can’t be of much interest or help to you and your blog unless it would have something to do with the chat and the people who frequented it, so again, if you ever have a question regarding that- feel free to ask. I know you’re very into knowing who- who is and what they’re about so I’m sorry for not being open about my identity and having used a false one in my comment and contact towards you. The only reason for me to do so is to not become a target for whoever. It’s too bad there’s no good place to discuss the case besides websleuths anymore.

In fact our emails went well through the most part… here is what they had to say about the chat room:

Hmmmm… would be in the chat under the name Hmmmm… 

Missy would sometimes join the chat under the name ‘foreal’. ‘Flukeyou’ would occasionally join the chat as well. There indeed was a user by the name of ‘imput_required’ who I remember would always take Flukeyou on whenever he joined. If Flukeyou wasn’t there imput_required would still be fixated on Flukeyou. I don’t know who imput_required is/was. I also don’t know as to how far Hmmmm…’s friendship with this person goes.. Or went.. Because he mentioned he was looking for him on your blog? 
This fit things I already knew and things that were said. Hmmmm… had explained to me the whole reason he posted on my blog on a page about Joey/Flukeyou was because his friend “Imput” was not a fan of Fluke and thought they might read there. Michael went on:
I’ve been following this case eversince it came to light. Pretty much always lurking on Websleuths and So I’ve seen the e-mail section and I remember some of the names you mention. I was aware that people were ‘fighting’ each other and that there were games being played. I’ve seen peoples personal information being thrown around. In the chat it was pretty much the same way. I didn’t go in there under my real name either by the way. Because I didn’t know who the people in there actually were, they could have been the people who were ‘playing with each other’ in the e-mail section.. I didn’t want to become a target for these people and become slandered for their wicked personal satisfaction, especially since I was there with nothing but good intentions myself. The few good people that were there had it happen to them too, their real names and information they once shared in trust were made public and used against them. This is the reason why I don’t use my real name and have never actively joined the discussions ( apart from the chat for a bit ). 
So I’m just a person with the best of intentions. I was hooked to this case because it’s a case that’s close to home and a case with victims I can very much relate to. 
As with most people who I have chatted with on this subject it’s hard to tell just how big of a part this Michael person played online, but they seem to be saying they were there through it all, again makes it so weird that both of these people took so long to find my blogs and then found it at the same time… but I’m not saying either of them are dishonest… but well… anyways during this email excahnge I got the feeling Michael was a female and that she was implying she had the same ocupation as the victims in the LISK case. So I asked and was given an honest answer… yes to both. So maybe this Michael Girl was a new honest person to get back involved in all this and clear up some of the games. They had more to say about Hmmmm…. and Candyce:
At some point Candyce and Hmmmm… made it obvious that they were in contact with one other. Through social media and more. There was a lot of talk about a meeting that later on must have actually occured, so that put Hmmmm… very close to this Candyce who was known to have harrassed family of the victims, impersonating users.. Come up with all sorts of fake stories and lies. Who I’ve also read countless posts in about having caused nothing but trouble
I also should point out that I was sharing emails with Hmmmm…. at the same time who also seemed to be very candid with what he was saying, but we’ll get to that. I guess Michael Girl did not  like some of the posts and coments made on the blog because this was the last I head from them:
Sorry I’m asking but is your blog(s) really an attempt to  stop the lies/games? You and ‘linda’ are fighting a person who might not even be the real flukeyou. And it’s just another platform for going at each other. Is there a place where people go and discuss this case besides websleuths? Is there a facebook group or something?

First off, yes it was the real Flukeyou, second I guess Michael Girl went from understanding and thanking me for explaining to “you are one of the players and are making it worse” a constant theme from those who have things to hide or have played a game or 2 in this… but hey maybe Michael Girl was just someone who really wants to get at the truth and was misunderstanding my intentions…. I should point out though they use a proxy IP and therefore could be anyone. Also they had asked a few times if there was a more anonymous place to talk about the LISK stuff:

By the way, is there no other way of -more direct- ‘anonymous’ communication? Is there not chat up about this anywhere anymore?


It seems some people don’t mind talking about all this as long as no one knows who they are. And I get that, I do, I have respected many people’s request to not mention their names. But I have to go back to the idea, that anyone coming to my blog to speak up, knows things, but isn’t a part of it, and still hide with proxys and fake screen names, well, they could be anyone and I just can’t hold them to high on the truth… nothing personal.

Well Michael Girl left… but soon after there were a few more comments from proxys that seemed to be a part of this Michael conversation. 1996 and 2000 were 2 screen names that wrote on the blog right after my last email exchange with Michael Girl. Remember them?



At first I thought these were from Michael Girl… the IP is a proxy of some sort which is why I didn’t bother to remove it from the snip. Also note the fake emails, lol. But on second reading, these sound more like Flukeyou… and I know 1996 is a part of Flukeyou story time, so… I don’t know. But I obviously have some people out there who claim I am the reason for all this crap… man that’s just as crazy as they get, ain’t it?

We had one more comment on all this which was this:


Now who was this? They were thanking Michael… but for why? And what’s with the fake email address saying “you already know”… because I don’t. One day I will have to post some of the crazy email addresses that people have chosen to use in the comments, some are quite funny, others quite telling.

But anyways… who is Michael Girl? Did she really just “stumble” onto my blog at the same time Hmmmm…. stumbled on to it? I don’t know, but I don’t think they like me to much, and I’m not sure why. We had some good email exchanges and then nothing… so I’m left in the air on my interactions with Michael Girl… I wish them well if they are indeed not a game player and if they are, well we know what I wish them. I’ll leave it with the same word Michael Girl ended most of her emails: Greets.

Now lets’ move on to Hmmmm…. and get myself in to some more deep water, shall we?

So Hmmmm… who’s email said he was Gino Fiorelli…which I hear is close to his real name, right Eugieno? Well he had a lot to say, so let’s get right to it:

Well, if you don’t believe that I am who I am then you probably wouldn’t believe my version of what happened, but I’ll try to give you the cliff notes version:

Candyce and I (along with one or two other girls in the LISK chat) would flirt around. We (Candyce & I) started chatting in private, we exchanged numbers, then we arranged to meet up somewhere to hang out later with some of her friends but she didn’t show and offered a poor excuse as to why.

She then began calling my cell phone from fake numbers saying that she’s outside my house and stuff (stalking). At first I played along because I didn’t want to give her the satisfaction of seeing me upset but then one night I got annoyed and basically told her to buzz off.

Mind you, other girls in the chat warned me that she was crazy and that she might’ve been behind some bizarre stuff regarding the roadside memorials for the victims.

Anyway, for whatever reason, that convo led to her telling me that she wanted to try to meet up again. I agreed on the basis that she would come to me and not me to her. I gave her an address near my residence at the time and there she was.

We “hung out” at my place and then she offered to go back to hers, which we did.

We continued “hanging out” at her place and talking on the phone for maybe a couple of weeks and she had posted pics of us kissing on her Facebook and all seemed to be going well until one night she started acting very strange and aggressive towards me (not in a good way, either).

She then wanted to go to bed and while I was lying there I told her that I couldn’t sleep and was going to the store to grab some more drinks. She warned me that she would lock me out if I did that and I didn’t buy it that she would so I went anyway and she did lock me out.

So then that was it. I went back home afterwards and later discovered that she had been logging into the chat and spamming the chat with junk about me. She continued doing that for I dunno how long and later the chat eventually closed down.

Hopefully that clears some stuff up for you


We shared a few emails, but that one has the Peyton Place appeal that we’ve all come to enjoy so much.

After 2282 words, I really should stop… but I can’t… I’m the Big Bad Id! Hmmmm…. also had this to say about Candyce:

She is definitely one of the main trolls. She used to constantly use different names to “hide” under while spamming the chat room with useless junk.

There were a couple of others as well. She wasn’t the only one. I wouldn’t doubt that this Michael person is just another of her aliases.

She’s a pretty disturbed person and for whatever reason she has latched onto this case. She has stated under one of those sock puppet accounts that she knew Amber Costello and made disparaging comments about her.

Candyce has no filter; she will say and do anything to keep the attention on her. That is why I immediately suspected that this Michael is her, because it is just like her to take advantage of an opportunity to draw attention to herself.


So all of that was about a month ago… and the PTB‘s in Zero’s head was unsure of how to deal with it, if at all. We have been warned to stay away from the likes of Candyce… and untill now we had… but now with this break and me (Id)  being in charge for the moment, I decided to take a closer look at all of this. So I went straight to Candyce… really just to get her side of it before posting about any of it. Believe me when I say even the Id could have good intentions…

And at first it went well, but like with all the others who just want me to shut up, it turned ugly.

And that’s where we must stop for now…

To be continued…