Onions And Rabbit Holes (The Last Post On LISK)

I have said many, many times, this is not a LISK blog. I started this blog to write about other things. Even my LISK Blog was not done to focus on the case or try to solve it in any way. It was about those who I found online who connected themselves to the case and seemed to make some sort of game out of the whole thing. I’ve blogged about this many times, trying to explain how it felt to be sucked into what  I called a rabbit hole. Even though I tried to keep that blog focused on the rabbit hole and not the actual case, I learned early on that wasn’t possible. In fact if my blogs bring any light to the LISK case, it’s how connected the rabbit hole has become to the actual case. I have called the LISK case an onion with many strange layers. I couldn’t write about my experience going down that rabbit hole without also discussing some of those layers.  And as I have said many times, the fact that the rabbit hole is so much a part of the onion now, it’s become almost impossible to separate the 2 and get to helpful information. I’ve tried.

To give an example let’s go back to last year when John Ray shocked everyone with a news conference where his then new client spoke of “sex parties” with the Ex Police chief James Burke. I haven’t blogged much about John Ray, but I think everyone who reads here knows how I feel about him. I have heard from those who don’t like him and say he has destroyed this case looking for the payoff at the end and those who do like him and say he is doing this because he really cares and wants to get answers for the victim’s families. I don’t know which is true… but I have come to my own opinion that John Ray is one of the main people over the years to help bridge that connection between onion and rabbit hole. All I have to do is take a look at the list of people who have been in contact with John Ray over the years, many of them “helping” Mr. Ray with his pursuit for truth or payoff:

Flukeyou and family

Dorthy Price Hill

Mysterymom7

LinseyLohan6

Susie Mockingbird

Should I go on… I think you all get this already.

So back when this news conference hit I, like many others, was skeptical. And it turns out we were all correct in our skepticism. Because while many were deciding what to believe of the stories of Burke and this girl John Ray had set into the spot light, everyone learned there was much more to the story, and that in fact the conference was a little misleading. OK, a lot misleading. Yes, this new layer Ray was trying to show in the onion quickly became part of the never-ending free fall down that rabbit hole. The first sign of this was in the conference itself, which seemed to be done mainly to connect James Burke to Dr. Hackett and the LISK case. But then there was mention from “Leanne” (name used for woman in conference with John Ray) of another person that she had actually called in a tip on being LISK. When asked more about this, John Ray concluded it wasn’t important nor the reason for the conference. What? When you sort the whole conference out, it seems, “Leanne” had called in a tip on someone she thought could be the LISK and then the person she called in the tip on was contacted by LE and told about the tip she made about him. Fucked up right? Well, that’s not exactly what happened, but at the time I didn’t know that, so let’s wait before dissecting it too much. Point is this tip is how John Ray learned of “Leanne” and her claims, it’s what would eventually bring her to becoming his client and you would think the reason for the conference. But John Ray said at the time, it wasn’t important. Why? Well, my opinion at the time (which hasn’t changed even though I now know much more about all of it then I did then) was that John Ray was more concerned with how Burke connected to the story, even though Burke is not the one “Leanne” believed was LISK because Burke was big news at the time. And Burke being linked to LISK was not anything new. We all know it was something being said for a while, so it fit the storyline John Ray was more interested in. Plus, if Burke could be connected to Hackett through “Leanne’s” stories that would definitely benefit John Ray and his ongoing case with Doctor Hackett.

I wanted to write about this last year. But even though I pieced it together very quickly, I didn’t feel right making it part of this blog. You’ve all heard me say this before, but let me explain fuller.

Right after the conference, someone came to me asking if I knew what the initials L.H. had to do with the LISK case. At the time I couldn’t think of any and asked why. I was told that someone had contacted them telling them MCME was someone in the LISK case with the initials L.H.

Interesting.

I looked at anyone I could think of with the initials L.H. but could ony come up with 1. someone connected to DPH, but it wasn’t really LISK related, so I didn’t think it was right.

While I was trying to figure it out, quite a bit happened. Websleuths and LISK Facebook groups were buzzing with comments and discussions that many believed included John Ray’s newest client, “Leanne”. There was discussion that “Leanne” was telling her “real” story to some. And there were definitely places where I saw that someone was definitely dropping clues of who the person was “Leanne” gave the original tip on. A Babylon attorney was one of these such clues and that sparked something. I had looked up an attorney in Babylon with the initials L.H.

Sure enough, the person who had asked me about the initials L.H. had been talking to “Leanne”. At this point they already knew it and confirmed it to me. But I knew it was. And I knew who L.H. was. I knew, because for a while at that time I had been following comments being left by someone calling themselves Plottmaster (as well as other versions of this screen name):

plotts1

plotts lh

plotts2

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There are lots more out there, but it all circles around the same names, and one of those names… Lindsay Henry… L.H.

Again, while I was piecing this together it was also coming out in social media. We all know this is where Jerry rose his ugly head. He started a Facebook group that a few of you joined and well we all know what happened. “Leanne” confirms some things to Jerry and he runs with it. Who was one of the first people Jerry contacts… me. And I never even spoke to the guy at this point. But he was told to trust me, which is good advice if you aren’t an internet nut spreading the disease, and we all know Jerry was just that. Part troll, part stalker, all asshole.

I quickly called him out (Do I get that credit? While most of you were opening up to the little creep I was putting him in his place) and shot him down. Which we all know led to some crazy shit and some seriously fun reading. Let’s just put it out there, Jerry then ran to a FB page ran by Kim West (‘member her) where along with Kim’s friend Dorothy Price Hill and a few others who no longer like me mentioning them here, got together and came at me. Why? Because I was the one to see through Jerry and know his ongoing actions were not only bad for the LISK case, but may be dangerous for some of the women he was approaching.

This eventually got me a private message from “Leanne” herself. She was curious about who I was, and I believe some people told her that I was getting ready to write a post about all of it and that I might not be to kind to her. I told her truthfully that I was probably not gonna post about it. Even though I knew at the time it would get me shit tons of views and comments. I explained to her that I felt that she shouldn’t be sharing her story with the internet. I also explained if I was gonna post about it, it would have been done already, because I had the story for a while at that point. Jerry had written me quite a bit before I told him to piss off. But before “Leanne” told me her story, before Jerry told me what he knew, I had already heard all about it. It get’s tricky here, but I have told all of you in private and in public, EVERYONE talks to EVERYONE! “Leanne” thought she was being carefull with who she spoke to. And yet each of them came to me and told me what she was saying, I mean Jerry didn’t even know me, but he was sent to me and he spilled it all unknowingly that I already knew more than he.  And by the time “Leanne” came to me I already had it all.

But it was great to hear it all straight from her. And unlike Jerry, I wasn’t trying to force anything or get anyone to give me any of this info. In fact I told “Leanne” many times I didn’t want to know about specifics when it came to L.H and the parties. I felt it was info for L.E. and F.B.I.

I don’t need to rehash most of this, if you have been reading, you know how it went down. But I just want to make one point, it was “Leanne” who finally got rid of Jerry. And we can all be thankful for that. Yes, it was “Leanne” who gave Jerry a lot of the things he knew, but let’s face it, a few of you gals out there bought into the Jerry game and gave him things to use, and I’m not just talking about LISK stuff, that guy knew personal stuff about a few of you. Shit he got a ton of shit on me, thanks by the way. “Leanne” got the jerk yanked off social media. So yes, we can all be thankful for that. The guy was bad news.

This is side tracking as most of my posts do. I spent enough time on the likes of Jerry so let’s move on. “Leanne” and I spoke quite a bit, and again, if I was to just make a post about our conversations, I know it would be a quite a big way to end this blog and get all sorts of views… but as I told “Leanne” back when we first started talking, even though this blog seems like a narcissistic voyage at everyone’s expense, that’s not really what it was about. And I have kept quiet about most of this. Yes, there is bits ‘n pieces scattered but I did not put it “ALL” out there, despite the fact that it would have helped the ZW Blog get even more readers. I felt all along that info on L.H. from “Leanne” should be kept off social media and the internet. But as we all know, this was a year ago, and it was not kept off social media and the internet. And before we go on I have to examine this a little further.

It would be easy to say “Leanne” is responsible for it all getting out there and in return mucked up with the rest of the stories and theories. Others might blame John Ray, with good reason, thinking maybe it is him getting so many to keep the internet side-show going. I can’t pass judgement on this. Yes, I spoke out loud and clear that I thought it should all be left off the internet, but let’s face it, there is good reason not to trust the usual course of action. So it’s not up to me to decide how “Leanne” or John Ray go about getting their info out there. Still to me, it just seems all sides are not handling it right. But that’s “to me” and since I’m not really involved, what does that matter?

Still, I’m trying to show something here… I know it’s taking way to long, but stay with me, we will get there. First though I have to clear a few things up. As I said, I have spoken to “Leanne” quite a bit, and therefore I know about some of the things that have been thrown out there and discussed on social media by many of you. I’ve kept quiet, but let’s face it, a year has gone by and most of it all has been out there already. In fact I read on Websleuths Susie Mockingbird commenting about L.H. admitting to killing people. This did kind of upset me when I read it… I have kept quiet about so much of this, and again my reasons for not blogging about all this was I felt it needed to be properly investigated before being made part of the internet, and yet here is big mouth Susie Sampeirre putting her 2 cents in about the L.H. admission to murder.

So let’s get it out there, because I too know the story… shoot, by now who doesn’t? L.H. supposedly admitted to “Leanne” to killing 2 men. This is the main reason “Leanne” decided that L.H. might be LISK and why she called in her tip. One of these guys supposedly was  killed from L.H. hitting him and killing the guy. The problem is I’ve heard audio of “Leanne” and L.H. discussing this and he denies ever saying such things to her. In fact even if he admitted saying them, he could just say he was lying at the time. maybe he was just trying to impress her. Not to mention, killing to men over jealousy or self-defense (which the stories suggest) does not lead to a serial killer or LISK. Still, if the stories are true, they could be checked out, right? And I know he’s been being looked into for a year now… so did anything come from the stories of murdering 2 men? The story of how he killed the other man was he threw him off a roof  in Greece, if I remember right… and there are other things that could lead the proper authorities to figuring out if L.H. killed 2 men as it is said that he has said. It doesn’t have to be a mystery or a case of he said she said… someone could look into it. So I’m guessing someone has. So maybe someone should clue the rest of us in on what is real there… let’s not hold our breaths though.

Have I lost everyone completely? Do you not know if I believe “Leanne” and think L.H. could be LISK or if I think it’s another LISK game being played out by lunatics? Good. Because it shouldn’t matter what I think. If I believe “Leanne” does that make her right? If I think she is crazy does that make her wrong? Get me?

One last thing though and I have to make this public and crystal clear. In the original news conference it was made to sound like “Leanne” called in a tip in L.H. and then someone in L.E. let L.H. know she had called in a tip on him accusing him of being LISK. As I said before, that would be so fucked up, and more proof that L.I. L.E. (Long Island Law Enforcement) is corrupt as all hell. But that’s not exactly what happened. “Leanne” did call a detective involved in the LISK case and told him she believed L.H. was LISK.

Then you know what “Leanne” did? She called L.H. and told him that she just got off the phone with a detective (gave L.H. the detective’s name and phone number)  and that she told the detective she thought he was LISK. Weird, right?  Well then L.H. calls the detective and the detective confirms it all to L.H. Man, if I was this detective I would think that both of them were fucking with me. So then L.H. and “Leanne” talk again and L.H. tells her he talked to the detective, which I would expect “Leanne” would have expected to happen, since she gave L.H. the detective’s number. But I guess she wasn’t expecting the detective to confirm it to him. “Leanne” then calls up the detective and wants to know why he would tell L.H. she called him. The detective is dumbfounded and tells her, “you gave him my number, you told him you said he was LISK”. I’ve actually heard this conversation, the whole thing baffles me. Again, from someone on the outside it seems like all 3 are playing some kind of game.  “Leanne”, the detective, L.H., none of their actions add up to me. They all seem to keep the circle going instead of getting to the truth or something that can help, it’s more about pointing fingers at each other. The same thing I’ve seen again and again. But this is all what I got out of it, and again shouldn’t mean anything.  Maybe I’m misunderstanding something. Listen for yourself:

https://clyp.it/i0igymk1

I will say this… L.H. is bad news. There are lots more about this guy besides the maybe confessions of killing 2 men. And L.H. was sleeping with “Leanne” while in exchange acting as her lawyer. Not very respectable for an attorney. So maybe there is truth to stories of L.H. and Burke involved in sex parties with “working girls”. Sounds very likely to me. And then maybe Doc Hackett does actually have a place in all this, because “Leanne” says Hackett supplied L.H. with Fentanyl patches. Yes, there does seem to be substantial stuff there. Which is why I felt it should be left off the internet and dealt with by the FBI.

But it wasn’t and it became part of the rabbit hole.  Not only that but it brought new players to the board. “Leanne” had a friend who you all know as Jenny Salazar who flew in like a banshee. Creating all sorts of unnecessary havoc. Lighting the way for a bunch of troll like FB accounts to join in for a short while. Which led me right to a guy calling himself Ken Jones.  This guy claims to be a hit man of some sort. And I should also point out that all 3 of them, “Leanne”, Jenny, and Ken talk about each other being crazy or mentally ill in someway, in fact I believe they all met on FB sites for different mental illnesses. This Ken guy (whose real name is Malik Boodie) even threatened to kill me.

So yes, L.H. seems dirty, and yes he was “Leanne’s” attorney. Also, John Ray seems sketchy and this is now “Leanne’s” attorney. Which is it? Onion or rabbit hole. And does it even matter? Because as I said, both are part of each other now.

You see I didn’t just choose to tell all of this to show how John Ray blurs the lines, no one needs me to tell them about John Ray. Nor is this one more example of how those using the internet in some kind of game, for what ever reasons, has  messed with the LISK case. I’ve shown that more than enough. I could say I believe “Leanne”, I could say she’s crazy, or I could say she has an axe to grind with L.H. Hell, I could say maybe it’s a little of all 3. Why would that matter? And what if John Ray did use her and that conference to tell his narrative? Should it not be looked into?

Here’s where I want to leave this, and what I’m trying to get at… the LISK case and many like it all suffer from L.E. not taking them seriously from the beginning. And that’s really a society thing. “Prostitutes”, “drug addicts”, and others deemed “less than” are not priorities.

I’m trying to put into words what I’m trying to say… we all know How this scenario works, if someone deems a missing person not important because of their lifestyle (I know that’s a bullshit thing to say, I’m speaking from an asshole’s point of view, in truth it’s not lifestyle we are talking about, it is troubled lives, even more reason to be taken seriously) and things are not investigated properly, later when a body is discovered or worse bodies, it’s too late. From the beginning all missing and murder cases should be treated the same. That’s how I feel and I bet most of you would agree with me. Stop treating the lost and troubled as throw a ways.

In the same vain, all tips and evidence should be looked at. It doesn’t mater what I or anyone else thinks about what “Leanne” said, if there is something or someone there to be looked at, it should be. And there is lots to look into when it comes to L.H.

“Leanne” has reasons to think L.H. is LISK. Some have reasons why they think Hackett is LISK. And the same goes for Burke, Bittrolff, Brewer, and a list of others. It doesn’t matter what any of us think about any of it. It should all be looked at. Hell, even DPH’s ex husbands should be looked at just to see if anything she says is true.

And that’s where I’m gonna have to leave it. I do hope one day the LISK case is solved. . Suffolk County deserves to know if it’s law enforcement and leaders are some kind of evil entity or not. And more importantly the families of the victims deserve answers and some kind of peace.

Shit Meet Fan

Sorry for the title, but that’s how this time of year usually feels for me, and it’s everywhere at the moment.

I know you were all expecting part 3 to the CCC posts, and it’s still coming, but I have to take a moment to acknowledge everything going on right now.

Any long time readers know that September and October are pretty much dead times on the blog. If you go back and look, I don’t post much during these times. This, most of you know, is because I work at one of the top haunts in America… but no shameless plugs. If you do go back and look at those times of year, you’ll also see people seem to come out of nowhere at these times. So it’s no surprise someone who has done this before, chose right now to poke his head back in and say hello:

return of som 2

That’s Son of Man, Aka Sebastien Rathier. Remember him? If not, you can go back and read the posts about him, because I ain’t going to waste time getting back into SOM and all his delusions. What’s important is that SOM thinks it’s cute to post stuff on my haunt character’s social media. Which is where that comment above was left. Some of you might remember, he did this before. And while I find it amusing when one of the nuts tries to bring that part of my life into all this. It’s also irritating.

Back when Jen G. found out personal stuff about me, she floated the idea that I might be trying to use my LISK blog to self promote. Which was ridicules. Then once I started this blog, “Zero’s World” other’s followed suit and started looking into my personal life, bringing up my wife and kids, my brother and my “scary” haunt character, so I said fuck it… if everyone is so interested in my personal life I would make this blog more personal. Not self promoting, but I tried to show me in real life from time to time, not just the asshole everyone loves to hate here in internet land. But anything I put out there was used against me time and time again. Which I knew could happen… so… say la vie.

Still, as I said it’s irritating. Back when no one knew who I was, people cried out, you could be anyone, Mike, Hackett, Wolff… any of the big bad guys that people were making up at the time. So I let personal stuff out there to show, I was just who I say I am, and that it really holds no connections or hidden agendas. Then I’m self promoting. Yet it’s most of you out there promoting me. You dug deep to find what ever you could and what did ya find? I have a wife and kids. I told ya that. I work at a haunt, yep, mentioned that as well. These are not things I’m trying to promote here though, nor are they things any of you internet nuts should be using to “get even” with me.  It’s irritating, but it ain’t gonna razzle me (I like that word, RAZZLE!).

So SOM, listen up. Go back into hiding. Remember we talked about those pesky fleas. Don’t be a flea right now. I ain’t got time to scratch at an itch that is slightly irritating at best. Go fight the good fight against nuclear energy.

This goes for everyone. I promise I will take the time, one last time,  for anyone who still wants to play games at some point (November). But can’t we stay above it for just a moment? After all the shit is hitting the fan all over:

fake news

fake news under pic

This article hit 3 days ago and got all our attention. Right away, many of us questioned if it was real. So far, the article is still there to be read:

http://www.sundaypost.org/2017/09/08/decapitated-female-body-found-in-a-suitcase-at-jones-beach-sparks-long-island-serial-killer-fears/

But just in case it does go away, here is what it says:

fake news 2

fake news 3

fake news 4

WOW BOB WOW! Right?

But there are many reasons to question this article. First no one has seemed to see this story mentioned anywhere else. Well one person did say they saw it on the news, but she doesn’t like it when I mention her here. So I wont.

There is also the Tweet:

fake LE tweet

No one knows if this is a real tweet. I can’t find proof it existed.

It isn’t there. Maybe it was taken down, but why?

Then there it the article’s author David Lee… is this guy even real? I sure can’t find another article by him. The picture may be a stock photo of some kind… but I did find the same picture being used here:

https://forum.fiverr.com/t/need-logo-designer-of-graphics-artist/138762/6

dave lee

dave lee william

Now is this just some other random person using this fake picture or is this who wrote the article? Somewhere it don’t add up. Why isn’t LE stepping up to confirm or deny this article? Yes, something here does not add up.

But this was only the beginning right?

Because then we all read this:

Bittrolff connected

And if the discussions of Bittrolff being guilty or set up weren’t already in full force… this would have done it. But the discussion was already a heated subject, so this only fans the flames.

LI carpenter could be Gilgo Beach serial killer, tied to Craigslist murders: prosecutor

Yes, this is interesting. Why now? I wonder myself. But I think you all know how I feel about Bittrolff. So I will patiently wait to see where this goes as usual.

Besides, the biggest shock came while we were all still trying to get our heads around all this:

lh arrested

http://longisland.news12.com/story/36356616/babylon-town-councilmember-arrested-on-assault-charges

Is this the beginning of the end?

lh assult

And how about those other times?

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The timing on this is unbelievable. As most of you know I have been staying away from too many posts on the newly infamous Lindsay Henry. But some of you also know that after I was finished with my CCC trilogy, I was finally gonna set my sights on the councilman from Babylon. Bring everything that has been floating around out there together into a neat little bow.

And then this happens.

Man Lindsay, you just added to that post. As well as the amount of people who will probably read it.

Maybe all this shaking up will finally lead somewhere. I know a lot of you have no faith in the local LE, and I don’t blame you. But maybe, just maybe, things are starting to crack.

I hope so.

No mater what happens, as I said before, this blog is gonna move right along towards graduation day… so let’s keep moving…

Where was I?

Oh yea, The CCC…

Well, let’s get back to it…

The Truth About The CCC Part 1

Over the years a lot has been said about a group of men in Long Island called The CCC. With all the stories floating around, it has become somewhat of a myth. I think it’s time that myth was cleared up.

Finding the whole story behind The CCC can be a little difficult. There are lots of rumors and hearsay out there and it’s all scattered. The best place to get the truth is to read it directly at the site The CCC originated: Utopia Guide. I think most people know by now about Utopia Guide, it is a site where Johns, meaning sex trade clients, discuss what they call their  “hobby”. That “hobby” being paying for sex.

I will get more into Utopia Guide as this post grows… but for now I should point out, that Utopia Guide was down for a little while recently. I noticed that when the site came back up, some of The CCC stuff was gone. That will make this a little harder to get at the root of The CCC… but as we all know, once it’s on the internet, it can be found.

Since DPH is where I first got some kind of story about The CCC, that’s where we will start:

dph ccc lie

WTF?!? Dorothy wrote that back in January, and it is complete Dorothy Dog Shit! The thing is, she knows this is a lie. Don’t you Dorothy? I mean you know you made this up, don’t you? Again I have to ask, those around Dorothy in everyday life… is she crazy and you don’t care? Do you just not see it? Does she cover up the crazy? Or is she doing this on purpose? Which ever it is, and I’m starting to wonder if we will ever really know for sure, her comment above about The CCC mixed in with Fluke “neighbor agenda” and “Burke propaganda” is exactly why I decided to finally put this post together. It’s crap, and it makes an already complicated thing, more complicated. So please, try again Dorothy:

jerry dph ccc

Well, that’s closer to the story you and MM7 first told me… let’s just cut to the chase:

https://mm7vslisk.wordpress.com/?s=the+ccc

That may be a little confusing, some of it is comments left on UG about a guy with the screen name magicfingersny. I believe MM7 wanted to show proof that The CCC existed, because there were a few out there trying to convince her it was a joke, a made up thing. On her blog people using screen names from UG straight up told her The CCC was a hoax:

wolf5958 mm7 blog

I should point out DPH was convinced Wolf5958 was her ex husband. I did a quick google search and decided it was not her ex husband. In fact I’m guessing anyone looking into The CCC looked all into this screen name… they have enough of a trail online to do so. This was one of the many times I questioned how much of the false information being put out there was on purpose. I mean Dorothy and MM7 had to have found everything I did, I found everything they did. So they had to have known this wolf was not Dorothy’s ex husband. And therefore connecting Dorothy’s ex husband to UG and The CCC by a screen name that they knew wasn’t him? I’m just saying. What am I saying? Oh yea, I don’t think wolf5958 from UG was Dorothy’s ex husband, that’s what I’m saying.

Still… all the screen names from UG popping up on MM7’s blog didn’t help with the confusion. Which obviously was the point, which is why I believe they showed up on my blog as well:

teps ccc lisk blog

teps lisk blog

Man, I was all so new to these games back then. And I had no idea if these were people from UG or just trolls. Back then I just figured it was people wanting me to look at UG and The CCC. I mean why bring attention to themselves if it was really them? But now I wonder… could some of them been the real UG screen names they claimed?

lightweight and teps

Either way it got me reading UG (thanks, a lot), and there I could see where DPH and MM7 got their story from:

teps magic ccc 2008

So this is what MM7 had posted on her blog, and it does seem to show that there was a CCC and this guy Magic was kicked out of it. The reason why seems to stem from Magic posting on UG about girls without really using their services. In hindsight, the story of Magic’s fall from The CCC is worth looking into… but back then, I didn’t know it. What I did know, was the story DPH and MM7 got out of all this was crazy.

If you don’t know the story, this is basically it:

4 men, who were part of group called The CCC were responsible for the AC4 murders. Not together, but 4 guys each took turns killing 1 of the 4 girls. Then years later they get in a fight with a member of this little group, Magic, and kick him out of the group. But Magic knows about the murders they each committed and is determined to get even with them. So Magic then goes and kills 4 girls, the GB4, wanting to make it look like his old buddies were responsible.

I swear, that’s the story DPH and MM7  were telling. That was what they came up with after looking into The CCC and UG. I blame television.

So, as I already wrote, DPH thought her ex husband was in The CCC. Dorothy also thought Fluke might have been in The CCC. Dorothy and MM7 also believed Brewer was part of the group:

mm7 brewer is lw

I already said that I don’t believe Dorothy’s ex husband was part of the CCC, but Fluke? Maybe… and Brewer? Interesting thought, huh? We will have to come back to that. Another person they connected to The CCC was Hackett. In fact they believed that guy Magic was Hackett. This of course fitted everything Fluke was selling both DPH and MM7 about Hackett. Out of all of them, this one is definitely not true. Magic couldn’t be Hackett, because Magic is dead:

magic dead 1 15 2010

And quite a few people comment about it:

magic memorial1

fuhecu2 magic stonehedge

 

billy s rip magic marc

When I saw all this (again, back then I was new to many parts of this) I couldn’t understand why DPH or MM7 would try to say Magic was Hackett. They were getting their information from UG, and they had to have known Magic was dead and therefore not Hackett. In fact I couldn’t figure out why they would think this was connected to LISK at all. I wrote the whole thing off at first. Which was easy, because I really didn’t like reading at UG. But they weren’t the only ones mentioning The CCC, so as with everything else I kept chasing it.

At the end of the day (I really hate that phrase and use it mockingly) The CCC and UG seemed to have plenty to look into without pretending Hackett and Dorothy’s ex were people they obviously weren’t. I also discovered you didn’t have to come up with some made for TV story about a serial killer copycatting his 3 serial killer friends to connect The CCC to the LISK case.

To be continued…

Bittrolff & Oak Beach

There are a few things about the LISK case that I have come across that for different reasons I have tried not to discuss in open form. It seems though that now is the time to get to some of these things. Some are widely known at this point and some are not. I’m gonna start with one that is not.

When John Bittrolff was first arrested, some one came to me with a shocking realization. They had seen Bittrolff in Oak Beach before. In fact Bittrolff had worked on a garage of someone who had been a part of the timeline of Shannan’s night in Oak Beach.

I will get to the reasons I have not written about this till now, as well as why I have decided to put it out there. But first let’s just get it out there.

In the early nineties, there was some sort of firework explosion in the garage of Gus Coletti, and John Bittrolff is the guy who was hired to fix it up.

When I first heard this I was floored. If this was true, what a bizarre connection. I can tell you I have every reason to believe it’s true. The sources are reliable. So then all I could wonder was, is this just yet another strange coincidence that the LISK case is plagued with?

Although I did discuss this with a few people and it did get mentioned in the comments of this blog, for the most part I did not disclose the name of whose garage was worked on, and here is why.

First off, I had every reason to believe that LE would be looking into it. So I waited to see if it would come to anything. I did not want to harm the case by leaking something that could be twisted all over the internet before it had its chance to be investigated properly. In my opinion, all the stuff leaked and twisted early on is one of the main reasons the case is the mess it is today. When I started blogging about all this, most of the stuff I was discovering was old and already twisted. But this was different.

And I had every reason to believe it would be twisted. Gus was a favorite target for Fluke. And Dorothy, yes she would love to fit this into her delusions of grandeur. Last thing I wanted was possible good information being tainted with the rest.

Plus I didn’t know if it was important. Could the fact that a guy accused of killing at least 2 women, worked on the house where years later another possibly murdered woman had run to the night she diapered be a coincidence. I don’t know Long Island at all, but after everything I have learned about it, it seems  everyone knows everyone else. And Bittrolff was a contractor. So maybe it wasn’t anything at all.

So I was conflicted. When you say it out loud, “Bittrolff worked on Coletti’s garage”, it seems like a headline… a missing connection. But in the LISK case there are many connections like this (and I’m about to get to others as well in the next few posts) that seem to be big, but go nowhere. I myself believe Gus’ encounter with Shannan and Pak was as we have been told. Gus did not know them or what was going on when it all came to his doorstep. I also tend to believe, when the cops arrived that morning, everyone involved, meaning LE and the residents who had come out to greet them, thought Shannan had left, most likely with Pak. I may be wrong, but I don’t think anyone at that time had reason to think otherwise.

Of course I could be wrong, but that’s how I’ve come to see it.

I believe Gus wanted to help Shannan, but didn’t have any idea what was going on. So the last thing I wanted to do was throw red meat out there for people to feed on.

Hopefully you all get it. If it was just a coincidence, I didn’t want to further mix this case up with coincidence. Plus with Gus having passed, I did not want to further hurt his family or allow the likes of Fluke and DPH to continue to try and tarnish his memory. If it wasn’t a coincidence and it somehow connected Bittrolff to Shannan or the GB4, I did not want to corrupt it with internet interference.

So why now?

Well first off, Bittrolff was found guilty for the murders of Rita Tangredi and Colleen McNamee. So this makes Bittrolff more than just one of the many suspicious characters being disused in the LISK case. Plus there are stories that Rita Tangredi’s daughter, Amanda Beinlich, was best friends with Melissa Barthelemy. More coincidence?

With my blog coming to an end soon, I couldn’t leave this undiscussed. So here it goes:

As I said, this may be just a big coincidence. But here are the things that make me question it. Bittrolff wasn’t hired blindly, meaning he was introduced to Gus by a mutual friend. Someone who knew Gus and also knew Bittrolff. I don’t know much about this mutual friend, but I can’t help but wonder about him. How did he know Bittrolff? Now just because this guy may have been friends with Bittrolff doesn’t mean anything. If Bittrolff is a serial killer, and after his conviction I feel safe saying he is, then he was good at hiding his evil side. His friends and family had no idea from what I have read, and still don’t believe it. So again, this mutual friend may not mater much, but I’d still like to know how well they knew Bittrolff. Now this “mutual” friend introduced Bittrolff to Gus and the garage got fixed. But did Bittrolff  meet anyone else while in Oak Beach? Did he continue any type of friendship with anyone there? Did he continue to visit there after working on Gus’ garage?

These are questions I can’t help wondering about. And again, if Gus or anyone else in Oak Beach continued to hang out with Bittrolff, it doesn’t mean anything, No one seemed to suspect him of anything. But you can’t tell me it’s not important to know when was the last time Bittrolff was in Oak Beach.

Speaking of which, from what I understand, the garage was worked on in the early nineties… we all know now what Bittrolff was up to back then.

I will stress one more time, that none of this means Bittrolff is LISK. But it is possible that at least some of the bodies or body parts found off the beachs lead back to Bittrolff. We know some of them lead back to Manorville .

So I hope someone is out there looking into John Bittrolff’s Oak Beach connections and visits.

SSDD

I guess the best way to start is to explain what SSDD is for those who don’t know. It’s a phrase I’m sure most of you have used before. “Same Shit/Different Day”.

Simple enough, right? Yea, nothing is ever simple here.

Long time readers may remember that I have three favorite authors. Douglas Adams, Clive Barker, and Stephen King. I came into each of them in that order… after reading everything there was by Douglas Adams, I started reading Clive Barker. When I ran out of Clive I moved on to Stephen King. I have yet to run out of Stephen King…

I bring this all back up because a few months ago I went to my personal library, which is full of many different subjects, both fiction and non-fiction, but yes, the bulk of it is Stephen King books. The movie “Dreamcatcher” was gonna be on and I wanted to watch it. It was a book I had not read yet. So I got the book out and started to read.

I read in different speeds… very fast and super slow… I can spend hours reading one day and then go a few weeks before having time to do so. But when I really get into a Stephen King story, I read every chance I get. It took me a few weeks, which, for a book just under 600 pages, is not fast by any means, but in my world where I can set a book down for 2 weeks before having time to pick it up again, that’s pretty fast.

The book is a sort of alien horror story. A pretty good one. I found parts of the book some of King’s scariest. Most would say “It” and “Salem’s Lot” is king at his scariest, and I would agree. These and a few others actually are books that cause nightmares. There are parts of “Dreamcatcher” that also do exactly that. There is a bathroom scene that is truly horrifying and disgusting.

If you have seen the movie, you know about the bathroom scene and SSDD, but trust me, I read it and then watched the movie right after I finished. Like most book to movies… you really have to read it to get the full experience. The movie was pretty good for the first half… but just lost site of the story in the second half. I understand why it went a different way, but it really did become a different story by the end.

So, yea, if you saw the movie and liked it or saw it and thought it was missing something… read the book. The missing stuff is there.

Anyways, without spoiling too much for those who have not seen or read it, SSDD is discussed by the main characters throughout the course of their lives. At first they don’t understand exactly what it means. Something they heard the older boys say.  In a simple explanation (very simple) they come to understand it in different parts. Same Shit… yea, that’s a given… but at one point Different Day comes along and so much seems to change… in the end though it’s a phrase meant to be together. SSDD.

I’m not gonna speak for Stephen King or the characters in the book, but I will explain what I took out of their dealings with SSDD.

We get stuck in repetition, the same shit all the time. It’s the way it’s designed, so really it’s no one’s fault. I mean we eat and sleep and do all sorts of things in monotonous repetition. So to get stuck in Same Shit is just life. But at times change is there… if you read my very first post on another blog that seems so far from this one, I wrote that evolution is a part of creation. We create to evolve and we evolve to create. Different Day is waiting for all of us who step out of our circles, realize we are our worst enemy and therefore you are the one who can make it all work out or not. You are in control of your own destiny.

Now I may be taking the whole thing further than needed. Again, that’s what I got out of it. On the simplest terms, Different Day can be seen as first time experience. It’s all the same shit, until those first come. Any first. First job, first love, first kiss, first child. SS is always punctuated with first time experiences that bring on the DD.

I hope I haven’t confused anyone yet, this post is just gearing up. I guess it doesn’t matter because in the end, the characters see it as one. SSDD, and sadly it is what everything becomes. SS becomes DD, DD becomes SS, but in the end, it’s all SSDD.

Are you still with me?

Another way to say it may be, “the more things change the more they stay the same”. But SSDD says that and a lot more. It’s kind of a discouraging way of looking at things… but that don’t mean it ain’t accurate.

Alright, that’s enough insight on SSDD. I bring it up because last summer, when I read “Dreamcatcher”, and I read all about SSDD, I saw fully how that described the Zero’s World experience … and here we are months later… SSDD.

To start we have to go back to my first blog here on Word Press, the one we fondly call “The Red & Black”. When I started that one I was searching for a DD. Looking to put a fun, uplifting blog up. A welcoming place that did not promote the “back n forth” you see all over the internet and social media. Though I wondered how long I’d be able to keep that up. Since I planned to blog about the “back n forth” and the way we misuse social media. If you have not read those early posts, please take some time and check them out. No matter how far we have come, I said it best in those firs few posts. I had planned on blogging about religion and politics and many other controversial subjects  that I knew could lead to the “back n forth”, but I hoped to try to handle it differently. To find away to preach without judgement. That went out the window early on unfortunately. I don’t know if there are many of you who have been reading since those early days (those of you who did and are still here… I fuckin’ love ya) but for those who weren’t here, this is what happened.

Cat-fishing had just become a big thing. The movie had been out and the TV show was just begging. There were stories of people faking Facebook accounts of whole families for now real reasons other than attention. A football player was in the news after being fooled by a guy pretending to be a girl. The football player actually thought of this person as his girlfriend and mentioned her on TV, when the guy with the fake account made it look like the football players fake girlfriend passed away.

I was really taken in by this strange new way people were using the internet to fuck with people. And here we are years later and it’s only gotten worse.

As I got ready to blog about all this I came across MM’7s blog. To me it seemed a weird sort of cat-fishing was going on in the comments of her blog. And after all these years we know how right I was. But I learned on MM7’s blog and all the other sites, blogs, and discussions related, they called these fake screen names and accounts “Sock-Puppets”.

I may be boring some of you, since I have kind of explained all this a few times over the years, but I feel the need to recap and fill in so everyone understands the ZW SSDD fully. I decided to put it all together in a 3 part post called “Catfish & Serial Killers“.

This of course led to my LISK Blog and what ever DD I was looking for, once I started my LISK blog I  defiantly found something completely different.

The LISK case it self is a repetitious beat of SSDD leading in endless circles. I think most of you know what I mean by that. I may not have understood SSDD back then, but I knew about circles and eventually I came to a place where I wanted to get out of the circles my LISK blog had led me too and try to move on to something else. In other words, leave the SS and find some DD.

Zero’s World was born.

Again, I have  written about all of this in much more detail many times before, so I won’t continue to bore those of you who have read this way too many times now. Point is, I started Zero’s World and SSDD became modus operandi.

As I began posting on Zero’s World I realized people had been looking into me. MM7 was the first to figure out who I was, but if you were reading back then, you know I had pretty much told her all about who I was, so her searching was just verification I guess. This led to a SSDD that still puzzles me:

Remember, this came from MM7 right around the time I started ZW 4 years ago. MM7 was trying to imply that me working in a haunt could be twisted into something. Which I said many times myself, after all my character is very scary, lol. We all know I have written about my haunt character many times and yes people have tried to twist it… SSDD.

But that’s not the SSDD I’m bringing up here. It seems that MM7 went straight for my wife when looking into me. I xed out my wife’s name. Not quite sure why, it’s not a secret, right?

Again, the names are xed out more in jest, we all know what they say. This is just one example of DPH spreading the word. SSDD!

I don’t know how often this goes on but more recently Maureen sent me something she said was sent to her:

Jesus Fuckin’ Christ! SSDD! I don’t know who sent that to Maureen. She sent it to me more as a taunt then a heads up. My guess was TKAMB, since she’s one of the latest out there bringing up my wife. But I know Ricky Dicky Keeys was sending her stuff about me, and so was Fireball, I think. It don’t matter… SSDD, and one as I said, that still puzzles me. Do you look for info about my wife to see what kind of woman would marry an asshole like me? Or is it like I have said before, a little jealousy. MM7, DPH and others have not had very good luck with men. And you just want to see who was lucky enough to find a good guy like me? LMFAO, that’s it, huh?

What really puzzles me about this, is why you feel the need to tell me, “I know your wife”. Good for you, SSDD fuckers! Ask MM7, Dorothy, Nancy, or Maureen what it’s like to deal with “Sassy”. Over the years I have told you all to leave her out of it, that was  for your own good.

Another SSDD that kind of puzzled me was the threats of violence. From MM7’s husband:

Before I go on I need to point out, I never brought him or MM7’s kids into it. MM7 brought her whole family into it, and others did go at her family, you can read back and see what I have written. Not to mention, I took much down at MM7’s request when others posted stuff about her husband. But let’s just be honest here, the guy is an abusive prick who thinks he can bully and beat people up to get his way. Oh and by the way, I checked, and he did not go to the owner of LISK.com nor was the site taken down because of Danny Boy.

I’ve had lots of threats over the years:

Jerry was all over that SSDD.

That’s Ricky Dicky Keeys, and as I pointed out back then, SSDD!

Yes lots of threats over the years, but that little fuck Malik Boodie, aka Ken Jones, aka The Shark really made an art out of it:

SSDD Malik! And don’t think I’ve forgotten about you, because I haven’t. Soon Malik… soon.

Yep, no matter who came along, Flukeyou, MM7, Jen G, DPH, Nancy, NERD, TKAMB, SOM, Ken Jones, Plot Master, Jerry, Maureen, Ricky Dicky Keeys, et cetera… each one was so much like the other.

SSDD!

 

Note from Zero: As you can see, the above was written back in March. I wasn’t quite happy with it. I wasn’t sure how to express the full feeling of SSDD running this blog has filled me with. It sat and sat and I almost thought I was just gonna skip it. But even with no real new posts other than some holiday stuff, the SSDD continues. So let me put a finish on this post, it needs to go up:

One SSDD that always makes me smile a little is how people praise my blog or say they love what I am doing until it catches up with them.

MM7 used to post links to my blogs and I commented quite a bit on hers. I was very lost at the beginning but I caught on. Anyways, MM7 would go back and forth liking what I was doing  to calling me a stalker. She liked it as long as it went with what she believed or should I say perceived.

Flukeyou and DPH also praised my blog at times, I think we all know what they think about it now.

A little while back I announced Seaslug44 was PS149 as well as NERD. In fact he was a shit load of screen names throughout the years. I know he didn’t want me to put it out there, but I felt it was important for people to know. There are quite a few things about Seaslug44 I think probably should be put out there. but I’ve held way back because we had started talking on Facebook and he seemed to want to clear up all the confusions… I was giving him the benefit of the doubt.  Even though early on NERD had some not so nice things to say about me and the blog under his many screen names (no need to go in to them at this moment), but he seemed to be liking me going at TKAMB and some of the others:

Yea Seaslug44 was fine with me exposing what others did but I guess he might be worried what all I might write about his own escapades. Even though I have not mentioned him on the blog since, I guess he decided to do as others and run away. I wrote him to ask him something recently and he did not reply. Which was strange because he had written me quite a bit before. I wrote him again and he blocked me.

LMFAO!

I noticed a few people blocking me lately. Like that will help.

Some of you make me laugh so much. You say how great I am and then say I’m an asshole. You love it when I go at others and expose them for what they have said and done, but you don’t like it when it is your turn. You see what this place is all about, and yet you come to me and start playing when you have no need too. You could have just stayed away.

But you can’t help yourselves. And one by one you become part of the SSDD.

And in the end each of you blame me… SSDD.

Oh well, we can’t escape it. It is what it is… SSDD.

Oh and by the way Dorothy Price Hill, I know you are mentioning me in your secret FB Group.

SSDD!

Catechizing The LISK Murders

As many of you know I’ve been clashing with quite a few people and places out there lately. Yes, I bet Websleuths and all its Sleuthers are not crazy about my blog anymore. But they are still crazy, lol.

There are other places, secret Facebook pages, LISK groups, and such. I try to give them all the benefit of the doubt, but they all seem to be infested with nuts. Well I just found a place I hadn’t seen before and it has to be the most dangerous of them all right now…

I can not sit by quietly while this happens!

This group has to be exposed before something really bad happens. I only hope I’m not too late!

The group page is :

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1004493239676354/

And it’s run by someone named Kim Vest:

https://www.facebook.com/kim.vest.353?fref=nf

I’m gonna call it straight out before I go any further, Kim seems like a member of the nut gallery. In fact I would bet on it. And it’s not just comments like these:

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Does she really think because 2 people are Asian that means they are probably friends? Yea sorry Kim, that’s a nutty thing to say. But that’s not why I say she’s in the nut gallery. It’s also not because she has nutty arguments with other nutty people:

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How familiar does this look to a lot of you?  This stuff is going on in so many LISK groups and pages. I’m not gonna get into all the parallels of what so many are involved in right now… but you see it right?

So Kim has a LISK group where she says some nutty things and has some nutty commenters who  I’m guessing came over from a Casey Anthony page. Yes, seen it all before… it screams crazy! But none of this is why I think Kim is part of the nut gallery and none of that is why I feel an urgency to point out what is happening on this page.

First off there is this:

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There ya go… the leader of the nut gallery, Dorothy Price Hill. But it get’s worse:

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Is everyone seeing this? Jerry the stalker has met Dorothy the queen LISK nut. This is bad. And it’s not just because these 2 could be very dangerous if they start working together, but as many of us know and you can see right there, Jerry thinks he knows who LISK is. If you have been paying close attention, everyone reading here knows who Jerry believes LISK is. But there is lots about Jerry you don’t know. But don’t worry, by the end of this post you will all know plenty. First though back to Kim’s little group. Jerry made his way there just the other day:

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That little fucker is talking about me. You little shit. I have said many times I’m no hero. I’m a fucking villain. I’m your villain now you little creep. Also to imply I make any money off this blog or the LISK case is so beyond stupid. This blog isn’t even a LISK blog, it’s primarily about internet nuts who screw with people. If you actually read it you’d know that, dumb-ass. LOL, yea, Jerry Jamie Hall is getting under my skin a little. Don’t worry though, I’m ’bout to scratch. One last thing ass-wipe, Zero’s World is one of the few places that has named this person you are talking about. And I would have gone deeper into it, but it is part of an active investigation. Going into it all in further detail could jeopardize it, if, and I say IF it pans out to a real LISK connection.

Now back to Kim’s groups. It’s a good thing I saw this today… because I’m telling you this is not good! Just look at the 3 of them together:

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Man, I’m not liking where any of this is going. And since I know exactly what has been going on behind the scenes and what Jerry stumbled into… Damn, I just don’t know what to do here, where to start and how much has to be said. To start with read this:

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2017/01/14/jerry-hallech/

Also let’s just get this up:

https://www.facebook.com/jamie.hall.31105

So Jerry or Jamie or what ever this creeps real name is got himself wrapped up in LISK by harassing the girl in this video. Both Jerry and the girl from this video have given me copies of some of their conversation. And yes, some of it confirms what many are hinting at… right plottmaster?  But let me make this clear, it’s all being looked at, and it has to be. Jerry running around harassing people, dropping hints, talking to other nuts, and having his friends send out links and snapshots of conversations is not helping anyone solve LISK. And if you are working with him… you are making a dangerous mistake.

What you don’t know is Jerry stalks and harasses females on the internet. So regardless of what he thinks he knows about the LISK case you do not want to let this guy into your life in any way.

Jerry and Jamie are fake names, and he likes  to use fake names. Let’s take a closer look at the Jerry account:

https://www.facebook.com/jamie.hall.31105

I really like his intro:

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Damn that’s funny. Coming from a guy who very much has bullied a few people lately. Listen, most of you know I wouldn’t say this if I didn’t truly believe this guy was dangerous… STAY AWAY FROM HIM!

I have now spoken to several people who say that he has stalked or harassed them. Wanting them to help him:

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He than latches on whether you try to ignore him or talk to him. He send’s this video to lots of different women claiming he made it for them:

I told ya… creepy with a capital CREEP! Does he really think “God Save The Queen” is romantic. I don’t know who Jerry made this video for, but I know he has sent it to at least a few ladies.

By the way Jerry belongs to many pages… did you notice this one?

https://www.facebook.com/groups/106138616389709/?order=&member_query=jerry&view=members

Yep, that’s our CREEPer:

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And just in case you don’t know what that group is:

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achterdam_(Alkmaar)&prev=search

CREEPer!

OK, he sends different pictures out when he is tries to take someone into his madness:

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That’s not very clear. how about this one:

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There ya are. Well if that’s really him in the video. This guy is so crazy I don’t know how far he gets into his catfishing games. I mean this guy  is  wacko. But I think it is him in the video and that means that’s him next to Iron Man. I still don’t know who he is or what his real name is… but again, trust me, he is playing some strange games and you don’t want to be a part of it.

Now as I said in my last post about this nut, he had some “friend” contact me and give me info on his LISK POI and some of his stalking private messages between Jerry and the lady from John Ray’s conference. I’d like to post them all… plus the ones she sent me as well… it shows just how Jerry works. But I can’t there is sensitive stuff in it and I am not about to interfere with this case like some of you nuts. This friend who Jerry had contact me is the only connection to this scary internet stalker (and you know I don’t use that phrase lightly), his name is Hayden Lufkin:

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And let me tell you Hayden, by sending me the stuff “Jerry” asked you to send me, you interfered with an open serial killer case. I’m not joking either. Did you read any of that stuff you sent me? You need to step up and stop your so-called “friend” from these games he is playing. Not help him play them.

Again, the stuff Jerry Jamie Hall thinks he knows about LISK is already out there. It’s on this blog! You don’t need him. So don’t work with him. He is dangerous! And not like Dorothy or Susie or the other slanderous nuts. This guy has issues and he is looking for some unlucky lady to help him with them (did I mention he says he is married?). So for those of you who continue on and find out for your self. Don’t say I didn’t warn ya.

That’s where I have to leave this for now… this guy is crazy, he has weaseled his way into the LISK case, and now thanks to Kim he just met Dorothy Price Hill.

Still Crushing

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Dorothy left that on one of her new internet stomping grounds Americans For Trump: https://www.facebook.com/groups/americansfortrump/?fref=nf

And there’s more… oh yes, there are more. But first I need to pull the curtain back on the blog for a second to explain how things work behind the scenes of what gets written here.

I know it may seem like I’m constantly stalking Dorothy to see what she’s writing about me. Dorothy definitely sees it this way. She tells everyone who will listen that I’m stalking her. The truth of course is just the opposite, she stalks everything I write… I’ve proven that time and time again (and I am about to prove it one more time). But still I know people must wonder how I keep up with her everywhere. I will admit that back when this first started, back when Dorothy, Cristin,  Jen, Nerd, & Flukeyou were wrapped up in their twisted games, back when Dorothy got Nancy to post my name all over the internet, back when trolling screen names were everywhere  I chased it all the time. Putting each of their names in my google search to see what they were saying and what they had said. I spent hours and hours, days and nights looking into all of them.

But that’s not how it works now. I just don’t have the time to chase the same old shit over and over for hours on end. I mean I think if anything, this blog shows, not much has changed over the years in what Dorothy or Joey have said. I mean yes they tweek their stories from time to time, and Dorothy loves to add new characters to her stories (yours truly being one of them), but mostly, it’s the same crap over and over.

It’s not that I don’t still go chasing from time to time, it’s just this blog really took a step off the public posts and into private chats and discussions.  I’ve talked about this before. Off blog I have met some great people and have serious discussions about the things being said out there. And it isn’t uncommon for someone to write me and let me know they came across Dorothy mentioning me or the blog.

And this is exactly what happened when it comes to these Trump page rants. I checked my messages on the ZW FB :  and someone gave me the heads up:

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There was a link to the Trump page (linked above) where I found these little nuggets:

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You are reading that right. Dorothy wants to blame me  for “planting” some internet story on Trump. Jesus Christ… the last thing I need right now is to get into it with some Trumptards. Ugh! That probably won’t help me much there. I have to point out Dorothy calls herself  “a witness in the Gilgo case”. Damn, she just never stops. My favorite part is after the many comments over the last 3 years where she has said she has given all my info to Police, Detectives, and FBI… she now  wants to sick the DOJ on me. You can’t see or hear it, but I am cracking up… a literal LMFAO moment. If only they can “trace the IP addresses”, damn, that’s good.

Is there more? Of course there is. But first once again, let’s pull that curtain back. This is gonna stray a little, but hang in there, we will be returning to Dot and Trump.

While I was gathering screen shots for this post, I received a message from another reader about Dorothy:

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http://www.crimewatchers.net/forum/index.php?threads/long-island-serial-killer-lisk-gilgo-killer.2051/page-10

I clicked on the link and was surprised (somewhat pleasantly) to see someone had mentioned my blog there. But it wasn’t anything to do with Dorothy. As far as I know any way. Someone on the thread (and you can go to it and see it for yourself on page 10) mentioned a comment left on my LISK.com  blog back in February by TAL. Some of you long time readers probably remember it. But for those who don’t, here it is (just as the person who posted this in the thread above warned, it is kinda long):

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There was also a second comment left on my old LISK blog from TAL:

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I can understand why the person from the Crime Watchers thread would find this comment interesting.  Many people did. And even though we are straying heavily from Dorothy and The Trump Page (I promise we will get back there), I can’t help it, you know how it works, the posts go where the posts go sometimes. I went to this Crime Watchers thread expecting to find something new from Dorothy and they were talking about the TAL comment. That’s how it works sometimes. And just to sort out any confusion (or create more), it’s understandable that the above comments left by TAL would make my readers think of Dorothy. These types of stories are all over the internet and have been circling for years. I can tell you first hand that a lot of these stories come right back to Jen (story of a friend who was told by a foreign woman that she was married to LISK), Cristin (story of Dr. Hackett being an internet stalker), Dorothy (story of ex-husband being LISK), Candyce (the many stories of being choked, drugged, and abducted, yea most of those come from her), and Fluke Scalise Jr. (stories of parties at Brewer’s and a group of Oak Beach neighbors covering up for Dr. Hackett). Yes, there are lots of stories that when chased back, lead you to this group of… what’s a good word here? I call them crazy and nuts all the time, but really it’s worse than that. This is a group of really fucked up people and not one word is bad enough to explain what they are (Stick that in your pipe and smoke it). But there others out there, with their own cryptic stories all claiming the cops won’t listen to them or that they are afraid to go to the cops. Are any of them real? Good question. One we are gonna dive into using TAL as an example, sorry TAL.

When you read the comments on my blog left by TAL 3 questions arise. Who is TAL? Why, after all these years, did he choose to tell his story on my old LISK.com blog? Is what he wrote real? All fair questions. Let’s start with the first one.

After these comments appeared on my old blog I wrote an Email to them.  They seemed to be someone who had just found my old blog (but I get that a lot as long time readers know. And some are new readers, but some are new screen names from old “friends”). Still I looked into who they might be… it wasn’t hard to figure out. In fact anyone paying attention would have seen it all out there (almost like clues to be found):

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Yep, right there on the Praying For Shannan Maria Gilbert FB page, in between Dorothy Dog Shit, is a very similar story. OK, the same story. So TAL is Tom LaSala. See easy if you were paying attention. I have to admit, Tom chosing to tell his story mixed in with Dorothy’s rant is questionable. Maybe my reader is right and Dorothy is connected to this somehow. We all know Dorothy goes on and on about James Burke being involved in the LISK murders. Of course most of that comes from her detective friend Peter F. (saw him on TV the other night, not at all what I expected). He has been obsessed with Burke long before the Gilgo Beach bodies were found. Hey Pete, you might have noticed I have been mentioning you a lot lately in comments and posts… that’s called foreshadowing). Still just because Tom LaSall’s story involves James Burke doesn’t mean Dorothy or Petey have anything to do with it. Though it doesn’t mean they don’t. But to be fair, with Burke’s current place of residence, everyone is starting to question just how deep does his  corruptness go? I’m not any where ready to say Burke is a serial killer and Long Island LE and government officials were/are willing to cover it up for him, but it’s obvious they didn’t want FBI or anyone else poking arround in their affairs. Alright we are way off track. gotta start pulling this back.

I spoke to Tom via a few e-mails and he seemed like a nice guy. Which is why I never put all this out in a post like this. But there were things that bothered me about him as well. And I guess, bottom line, that is why it’s coming out now, well that and the fact others are discussing it on the Crime Watchers thread an a reader asked me to try to help clear it up. So I’m trying.

My biggest issue was that he came to my blog with it in the first place.  Don’t get me wrong, I am happy for anyone who takes the time to comment on any of my blogs, and to drop such a colorful story, well I am thankful. But my blog is known to chase after the crazy stories and hearsay out there. It focuses on disproving and calling out the so-called nuts. So yea, not the place to start I would think.

Then to write the story again under your Facebook account in between Dorothy comments. Again, not the best way to be taken seriously. Still, like I said, he seemed like a nice guy and I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt and not seem like I attack everyone who comes to my blog… I know it feels like that sometimes. I get it Dorothy, I really do.

What really got to me is the vanishing act.So many come here, blurt stuff out and are gone. I don’t trust that. Stay a while, get to know the place. Those hit and runs are way to Fluke like, and when people do it, they lose all credibility with me. I mean, Tom drops this bomb shell and doesn’t come back to answer any comments from others. Hit and run. Even stranger than that, was at this time, there was a reporter/writer going around wanting to talk to anyone who felt they had info on the LISK case. He was writing an article for Honeysuckle Magazine. He had been on my blogs and seen the TAL comment and wrote TAL an e-mail (you can see in the comment, that TAL made a “unique” e-mail just for the comment calling himself a “LISK witness”). Now when TAL/Tom wrote his comment, leaving that e-mail, he must have expected people to write him. And here was someone doing a story on LISK, the perfect chance for Tom to get what he said happened out there after all these years (yea waiting 6 years to tell his story, made me also wonder about Tom. It’s the second question from above: Why wait so long to tell his story? Maybe he was afraid of cops like he said. Maybe the recent arrest of Burke made Tom remember that night. But to me waiting for 6 years just doesn’t add up). You would think Tom would have jumped at the chance to talk to the reporter. Nope. The reporter wrote me telling me that he saw the comment and wrote the guy (Tom) but he didn’t want to talk to him (reporter). This puzzled us both and since I was sharing e-mails with Tom at the time I asked him why. He told me I was the only one he trusted at the moment. Strange, but I have to admit it felt nice to read. In fact Tom praised me and my blog quite a bit and said other than my blog and the Shannan page, he didn’t think he would put his story up anyplace else, Again, it felt nice to read such praise, but it also felt like a snow job (winter pun intended). I mean he was telling me how I’m the only one discussing the LISK case that he trusted and how cool he thought I was, but come on, why? And if you really thought I was so cool and my blog was the best place out there on this (the first part is true I guess, but my blogs are far from the best out there on any subject other than Fluke and Dorothy) , I mean if Tom really felt that way, so strong, that he wasn’t gonna tell his story any other place… where’d he go? Why not stay at the one place he felt worthy of getting this off his chest (after 6 long years), stick around and stand by what you wrote? Yea, I just don’t know if I buy it.

Which brings us to the third question on TAL‘s comment (we covered enough of the second one about why he waited so long to tell his tale in parentheses, right?) This is the main question, yes? Is what TAL wrote real? Did it happen? There are just to many questions for me to believe it happened. Doesn’t mean it didn’t, but in the end I just don’t think so. Tom seemed like a nice guy, but  there are just to many strange things about him and his actions that I just can’t get my head around. For a third time in this post I apologise Tom. And I tell you, as I did in  our e-mails, if what you wrote in those comments really happened, and you think you saw something back in 2010 that is related to the LISK case, if James Burke himself really came out by himself to question you about what you saw… there are people who you can go to. Go to the FBI, go to the press. Right now people are talking about these cases again. Burke’s arrest has sparked new reasons for answers. So if you really believe you are a “LISK Witness”, you should stop at nothing to get the truth out there.

I’ve said this to everyone, even Dorothy at one time. But I’ve also said to everyone (Dorothy all the time), don’t spread rumors and outright lies that fit your own agenda or crazy delusion. And if TAL would have stuck around, maybe we’d have a better idea of where he really stands in all this. But he didn’t. No updating e-mails and he never returned to the comments. Now this could be my fault, I haven’t tried to send any new e-mails or messages through FB. Which brings us back to this post’s running theme, I just don’t have the time to chase down things that don’t lead anywhere but endless circles.

To take it one step further (a step too far probably), it wasn’t just the comment I was unsure of. Even though I say again, Tom seemed like a nice guy in our e-mails, the few things I did find on him made him a new strange character in the LISK Onion. You see Tom is in a Long Island local band called Electric Caves. And he writes a blog. One post in particular caught my eye:

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Wow Bob Wow! Am I right? TAL sure can write. I know where he is getting a lot of that, but man he put it all together so beautifully, it almost seems plausible (for those who didn’t take the time to read the whole post, I understand, but man you missed out).

Alright, take it for what’s there. I could go deeper into my thoughts on it all, but it’s better you all come to your own conclusion. I never got into all this back in February and maybe I should have. The whole thing was strange, and I’ve seen plenty of strange since I started writing these blogs. Again it may all be crap and I should have just left it alone, or maybe TAL is a witness like he claims and his story of Burke needs to be looked into by proper authorities, or maybe there is some place in between where most things lie.

I’ve spent enough time on this. In the end I didn’t know what to think of TAL‘s tale or TAL himself. I hope he has gone to the proper authorities if what he says did indeed happen, and he feels he saw something that could help the Gilgo Beach case. That’s on him. I welcome him back anytime if he has more to add. I want to thank my reader for bringing this all to my attention. I’d also like to thank Sabra for not only reading my blogs and the comments (the comments are the best part), but for posting a link to the Crime Watchers thread. I hope you and any others who find their way here from the thread stay and read. Feel free to comment too, I swear they don’t all end up in posts like this. But it seemed the time to deal with this comment and I thank all of you who helped it come about. I still leave it on each of you to decide whether this is something worth discussing  or to leave it alone. I hope this helps with that decision in someway.

Now back to Dorothy and Trump. When we last left off, Dorothy was reporting me to the DOJ (see little twists, but the same old shit). From there she got quite nasty:

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If anyone out there still reading can’t see why I continue to write posts like these, well, look at my inspiration. She say’s I “claim to be a minister just like gang bang Nate Parker does”. WTF?!? What kind of stretch is that to get her delusions across? Remember it, because it’s gonna come up again in a minute. She calls me a drug addict, not true. She says I’m connected to parties at Joseph Brewer’s house, also not true. She wrote that I claim to have grown up in Cali, raised by a single mom, my friend’s mom was killed by a serial killer, that I have 7 kids, first one born when I was 16 or 17 (a week before my 17th birthday, to be exact). It is true I have said all that before, not all in one place, but yes I have “claimed” all this, and more importantly, it’s all true. And fuck you Dorothy for trying to throw in some of my personal stuff, especially my Mom, friends, and kids. You should know by now how that get’s to me, and well, here we are with another long post (over 3 thousand words right now) that didn’t have to be if you could just curb your school girl crush on me. You see, I was reading all these new things you (Dorothy) were writing about me to my wife. She couldn’t believe your obsession was still so strong with me (see, she’s smart enough to see how things really are). She said, ” You should write a post and call it ‘Still Crushing'”. I thought it was a great idea. Thanks Sassy!

Best part was when she says I use a voice-changer device to sound African-American. Damn, she worries a lot about me sounding “African-American”.  That to will come up again in the next part.

Dorothy ended her “zero rant” on Americans For Trump with this:

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Which is where this post began. I could end it here, by saying something like:

No Dorothy, the Feds have not arrested me, and unfortunately for you the blog still goes on… for at least a little longer.

But there is something more important that needs to be said here. Because, to be honest, and I usually am, I can care less what Dorothy writes about me on a Trump page. It’s kind of ingenious in a way, get me waisting (spelled wrong) my time with people who I clearly will clash with. I doubt Dorothy put that much thought in it though. She’s the type of delusional individual who would support Trump and I’m guessing, Americans For Trump is just another place she goes.  And everywhere she goes she has to mention me. The problem is that she doesn’t just go to places like Americans For Trump, she goes to places like Shannan Gilbert’s FB Memorial page or other open cases out on social media hoping for prayers and helpful tips and instead getting Dorothy.

I recently posted about one of these places that Dorothy has now attached herself to:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/FindJenniferKesse/

This is a page on Facebook set up to help find a missing person, and as I posted before, Dorothy declared war on my blog in the comments of this site:

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Yes, this is where Dorothy is just beyond fucked up and shows just how far she’s willing to go to stalk me (like that Dorothy, I added that sentence just for you). Screwing with another open case,  messing with people who are hurt and hoping for answers, and she uses me and my blogs to do it. Yes, beyond fucked up. And she wrote more since then. But before we get to that and end this post (I know it’s a long one, thank you for sticking with it), we are going to pull back the curtain for a third time:

I did not find the “Help Find Missing Jennifer Kesse” page on my own. Again someone sent me a message:

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Someone on the Jennifer Kesse page had seen Dorothy’s comments, Googled her name and found my blog. She was worried enough about Dorothy’s sudden interest and unusual tactics that she took a chance and contacted me on Facebook to tell me about it:

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I of course told her just how crazy I thought Dorothy was. I told her that it wouldn’t be long before Dorothy wrote about me and sure enough this new reader soon would write me to tell me about the “war declaration” Dorothy left on the page. I couldn’t help it I had to write a post, not just to defend myself. not just because I wanted to try to help the page see the trouble of letting Dorothy continue there, but because this new reader had written me and asked for my help. She felt helpless in stopping Dorothy:

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So yes I wrote a post:

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2016/10/12/dorothy-declares-war/

Did it help? I think most of us know the answer to that. A few people on the page said they were gonna block her after reading my post, but if you go there you will see Dorothy is all over it still, and many people are discussing things with her (Dorothy) like she really knows what she is talking about. This could be because that page is plagued with all sorts of people even nuttier sounding than Dorothy. Crazy psychics feuding over what they can and can’t prove. I feel sorry for the people running the page, I know this is not the intentions they made it for. But there is not much more I can do about it. I wrote a post explaining it all and Dorothy is still allowed to make comments like this:

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There she is, bringing up Nate Parker again (I haven’t googled it yet, and I’m guessing he’s not a nice guy). Saying that I sound African-American, AGAIN. And ONCE AGAIN telling the internet how I attacked her “relentlessly”. This post will be seen as an attack as well, I’m sure. But I just am trying to show you all how dangerous getting involved with Dorothy can be. And this comment should hit it all the way home:

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Damn, Cristin, Dorothy brings you up more than I do. Most of us know Dorothy is talking about Danny Boy, MM7’s husband. Most also know MM7 worked quite a bit with Dorothy at one time. And yes Cristin (MM7), Dorothy is mentioning you on a missing persons page, saying you might “sing” to the feds about you ex-husband. I’m sure both you (Cristin) and your friendly, ex-husband love how she (Dorothy) carelessly threw out the phrase “sex trafficking”.

See? Dangerous!

I swear to you, this is where this post would have ended, should have ended (It’s longer than most short stories). But when I sat down to write it the other day I realized I had some new private messages from Dorothy. Yep, while I was planning this post, Dorothy, out of the blue sends me a message. That’s just how it works sometimes. Dorothy still sends me private messages on Facebook from time to time, though I haven’t answered her there for years. Here was another I wasn’t gonna reply to:

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Damn, that is a good question though. Way to deep to get into now. You don’t want to have to read another four thousand words or so on why we all wear masks to hide our true selves. Yea I didn’t think so. But I did like the timing of this message, it was right after I posted a “voting selfie” on Facebook and Twitter:

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Yep, I was wearing a mask. But that mask is a inside joke, well more of a running gag.  Glad to know that you are still watching my every move Dorothy. It sets you up for a very big fall when I finally bring an end to this all.You’ll see.

I got another private message from Dorothy soon after that one, this one a little more to the point:

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There ya go Cristin, man I hope you are reading all of this. One more time Dorothy writes about some snuff video I embedded somewhere. And you Cristin, found it, do I have that right? Please, one of you crazy ladies put an end to this lie. Something if true, you should be able to prove easily enough. But it’s not, just more dangerous lies Dorothy is allowed to say over and over again. And some of you listen to her. How bright you all are. Sorry if that sounds arrogant. But I told ya, working with Dorothy is not wise.

And that’s where we will end this post.

Let It Snow!

Snow has returned to the blog. I get so giddy inside when I pull up The Blog and see the white flakes falling in front of the blog background of Zero’s world. It’s just so festive.

It’s also nice to see lots of new readers. For those of you who have found this place because of the new series on A&E, “The Killing Season”, I’d like to welcome you and hope you continue reading for a while now that you have found us.  I plan to cover quite a few things from the show as well as discuss my own conversations with Rachel and Josh in future posts. I have watched all 6 episodes so far and am eagerly waiting the rest. The show is very thorough in my opinion. One of the best I have seen on what I call The LISK Onion. I have noticed quite a few other out there think so as well. But I’m a little puzzled at some of those out there commenting on how good the show is, because these same people have said my blogs are  terrible and I should stop wasting (spelled right) my time, etc. Not that I mind, you all know I love my haters. But really (and I have said this before) I don’t get it. People praise places like Websleuths and shows like Killing Seasons but dump all over my blogs, when we all have covered a lot of the same things. Hackett, Brewer, Bisset, LISK.com, AC4, New Mexico, Florida, Neal Falls,  Serial Killer Truckers, Flukeyou (You’ll be happy to know Junior, that since you were on The Killing Season, the Flukeyou posts are getting record views!). Yes, I have written about most of the same things and yet I’m the bad guy while all these others are searching for truth and keeping the case alive.

Oh well, they don’t call me Zero for nothing.

Still, I hope everyone continues reading for a little while longer (at least ’till the snow stops falling), I think you will find quite a few interesting posts coming up. If I am going to bring this blog to some kind of end, there is much that we need closure on. And all though I really don’t care what people think of me (O.K. that’s not entirely true. We say things like that, but deep down we do care what people think about us. So deep down I’m no different. But on the surface “I Just Don’t Give A Fuck”), I would like to explain fully why I continued to blog about the people and subjects covered in all 3 of my blogs. Why I felt it was important to continue to write about Fluke, Dorothy, and The LISK Onion.

Lots to get to, so I better get to it. Again I hope you all will stay with me for a little longer, new readers, those there from the beginning, friends, haters, sleuthers, gamers, Fluke, Dorothy,Jen, Cristin, Nerd, The exiles, and yes, even you Nancy. I used to say “we’re just getting started”, well, we are past all of that now. We are ready to finish.

Until then… Let It Snow!

Any Last Words? Part 2

It’s been a while since we all heard about Mari’s death and I said there would be a week of silence on the blog. Much more than a week has passed by, in fact a whole season has gone. Summer became Fall and Fall is half way through.

I recently wrote on here,  “the longer I stay away from the blog, the easier it is not to return”, and that keeps getting truer and truer. I like writing here and interacting with all the different readers (well most of you) but just letting go of all the madness that circles this blog and enjoying life these last few months has started me thinking towards ending the blog all together. I’m sure this won’t come to much surprise, I mean did anyone really expect it to go on longer than 3 years?

The problem is, even when the blog is quiet the nut gallery keeps on yapping. Dorothy declared war on the blog a few weeks back, I have to admit that brought a smile to my face. Some of you might have seen Fluke returned to let me know the blog sucks, thank you Fluke, coming from you that means a lot. I noticed some of the exiles like Susie S., Candyce B., and Crictin K. came out of hiding to say a few words about Mari, I don’t have anything to say about that, that was totally expected. In fact I expected many of the exiles to resurface and have things to say now that Mari is gone. I expected it, was worried about it, and saw it happen. I was a little surprised to see how many quickly turned on Mari, but I knew that would come too. Even her attorney who used to say how strong of a woman Mari was, and what a great mother she was, quickly changed his tune, accusing Mari of child neglect and mental illness. Comments flying around about Mari being into witchcraft and arguments on the difference of black and white magic…. more of the crap the LISK case does not need.

A few have come to me asking my feelings on John Ray and I was not kind with my words. More than ever the guy seems like a snake to me. But I have had more time to think about it, and maybe he is just trying to help the Gilbert family in any way he can now. Maybe he is just trying to do right by Mari and Shannan by saving Sarra. I don’t know, and it’s really not for me to pass judgment. The Gilbert’s have had too much tragedy in their lives, I’ve said that many times before, and I don’t want to be part of any hurtful words towards them. I think most of my readers understand that and know of my careful skirting around when it comes to the Gilberts. That hasn’t changed with Mari’s death, in fact it’s only made it harder. I don’t want to be writing about any of this, but the time has come to stop putting a new post off or just stop posting. And I’m just not quite at the latter yet.

Still I will not judge or question any of the Gilberts and I know that puzzles some of my readers. Yes, many of us have questioned about mental states of the family and if this played into them connecting to others with questionable mental state. We have all long ago seen that connection in the interactions between the Gilberts and those like Dorothy, Joey, Jen, Candyce, Cristin, and the list goes on and on. Questions of bi-polar and schizophrenia as well as other mental illness surrounds them all. But these are things long ago known, and I don’t see the purpose to pounce on it all now. I still strongly feel hurt and sorrow for the Gilberts, they have suffered a lifetime of tragedy and therefore I can understand (in some way) the reasons they go about things or the mental instability that comes with such tragedies. I just wish it didn’t affect the Gilgo Beach case the way it has and does. But I don’t lay that blame on the Gilberts. That goes right down the line bouncing back and forth between the Jens and Cristins and ends right at the top of crazy with Flukeyou and Dorothy.

Can you tell I’m struggling with this post? I’m this close to deleting all that I’ve written so far…

Look, I agree that things like the Shannan Facebook memorial and Mari’s blog have let questionable people get involved with lies and misdirection. I think some of those who joined Mari on the vigils and marches on Oak Beach have done great damage to the case and hurt the lives of innocent people. Yes, it’s a mess but I don’t see how blaming the Gilberts or shinning spotlights on their tragic home life will help solve the LISK case nor stop all the nuts who pushed their ways into it all.

I’d like to think Mari is with Shannan and all that tragedy and heart ache between them has dissolved, giving way to pure love, forgiveness, and an eternity of happiness. I hope they await us all someplace where all the questions and pain of life’s hardness are forgotten.

Still I know the questions for all of us live on, and many will continue to search for answers and some will continue to spread lies to confuse the rest of us. The question is will this blog be a part of it any more?

If this is to be the last year of the blog, at the very least I owe my readers the best “ta da” I can.

So… any last words… any one?

Cristin? Some public apologies maybe?

Jen? I actually contacted Jen a short while ago to question her on something Mari had told me about Jen. Jen, of course denied it and questioned my purpose for contacting her. Classic Jen. By the way Jen, I know you are talking to people, I hope you are keeping to the truth and not some made up “cloak and dagger” shit.

Candyce? Susie? Any thing to say? Doubt it. Not under those names at least.

Nerd? I know you are still out there. End some of the confusion, I know you can.

Joey? I know you have some last words, but it will just be the same old shit.

Websleuthers? Where ya at? I’m looking forward to some of the things you all have to say. I doubt you will like what I have to say about all of you.

Nancy? Just kidding, no last words needed from you. In fact I beg you… keep it on your Facebook.

Dorothy? Nothing you can say will ever make up for all the crap you have said and done. But if you have any last words, get ’em out, because you know I will have plenty of last words for you.

That goes for everyone really. Truthspider, Son of Man, Dawhoda, Gino, Mr. Harvard, Radionewz, Julia, Michelle McKee, PS149…

Any last words?

Now’s the time.

Shit List

I am truly trying to get to a post about the article in Honeysuckle Magazine, UG, and the CCC. But when a new jackass makes my shit list, well, this blog takes a detour.

Jason Edwards… come on down!

In my last post I mentioned the comment left my Mr. Edwards on the Shannan FB Memorial Page:

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And as any rational human being can see, the Dr. Hackett in Mr. Edwards link is not the same Dr. Hackett who lived in Oak Beach. I wondered out loud on my post if Mr. Edwards was just so naive he could not see his mistake or if this was done on purpose. I also wondered out loud how many out there were purposely trying to confuse the internet with misinformation on the LISK case.

Well when it comes to Jason Edwards… I think we have our answer.

Mr. Edwards posted his comments on the wrong Dr. Hackett almost a month ago, and no one on the page corrected him. Well, that was until the day before yesterday, when Donna decided to correct him.

Many of you know Donna as a reader and commenter here on the ZW. So again, no one from the page corrected him… it took one of us, the few still out here trying to make sense of the crazy people who have hijacked the LISK case to say something. And although Donna must be used to how these nuts react by now, I bet she wasn’t expecting such a nasty reply from this jack ass. Shall we take a peek?

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Just as I thought, the whole thing seems like a set up… put out false info, wait for one of us (the very few of us) still willing to correct false info and show the nuts for what they are, and then attack!

Yep, so many nuts out there that played this game… Dorothy, Cristin, Nancy, Jen, and Joey, just to name a few. And as my blog shows, there are other nuts out there doing the same shit with other open cases and social issues. And quite a few of them have made my shit list throughout the past 3 years.

Mr. Harvard posted his link in a couple of places on the “Praying for Shannan Maria Gilbert” page, and Donna tried to correct both places:

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WTF? I think Donna handled it very nicely… and Jason Edwards should have thanked her and removed his links… but nope… attacks! Again, I hate to use Dorothy’s words… because we all know we can just stay out of the nut gallery and not have to read the crap they put out there about us or anyone else. So we are not victims, well at least I’m not (I should only speak for myself, sorry about that). But that is an attack. And a dumb one when Mr. Harvard is so plainly wrong:

Hey jackass (yea no more Mr. Nice Guy) the Doc you linked is Dr. Peter Hackett, the Doc in Oak Beach is Dr. Charles Peter Hackett. Get it smart guy? Harvard…LOL! Man, I bet you graduated at the bottom of your class.  Shall we take a closer look at this new nut?

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You know, there are 3 others on my shit list who come from the Massachusetts… Dorothy, Cristin, and Danny (I bet Danny Boy doesn’t know he is on my shit list… but you can’t threaten to shove a computer up my ass and expect to be left off the list, lol). I wonder if they are all connected in some way? We know Cristin and Danny were married and that Cristin worked closely with Dorothy on all sorts of things. Maybe this nut isn’t connected… but I have learned, that all these nuts have had some sort of encounter on the internet at some time or another. Funny, they all think they were “attacked” by this blog or people who read and comment on this blog. So Jason Edwards is connected at least in way of fucked up thinking.

I need to point out, that Donna telling you to do some research before posting something like that, is not an attack… you obviously needed to do some research before posting such slanderous links to people who have nothing to do with what you are implying.  Oh and research:

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If you went to Harvard you should know what research is.  Also, the things you said back to Donna were attacks. I see it that way, and I’m sure anyone not hanging out on the far side of right would as well.

So Mr. Crazy Harvard Guy… your link was as far from right as it gets… I mentioned that in the last post. Donna was just trying to be nice and hope to stop the nuts out there from misusing your misinformation. If you cared about the case or anyone involved in it, I would think you would not want the nuts to misuse your misinformation as well.

But it seems, you are a little bit nutty yourself and would rather start some comment feud on a FB memory page, when again, all you had to do was say, “my bad” and remove your link.

Well you got what you wanted.

 

By the way… I don’t listen to the Grateful Dead… awkward!