Joey, Dorothy, And The Long Island Serial Killer

I want to welcome any new readers that have found this blog after seeing the documentary in the UK called ‘America’s Serial Killer’. Also if you have found your way here from LINKs on the ‘Praying For Shannan…’ Facebook page, I would like to welcome you and thank you for taking the time to come here and read and not just take the words of a rambling psycho path like Dorothy Price Hill.

The first time I blogged about The Long Island Serial Killer was in a 3 part post on my Red & Black Prophet Blog called “Catfish & Serial Killers”:

https://zeroprophetblog.wordpress.com/?s=catfish

At the time I had found the sight called LongIslandSerialKiller.com where many of the commenters were playing some kind of strange game of misdirection and slander your friends and neighbors. It was led by a guy going by the screen name Flukeyou who we all know now is an Oak Beach resident by the name of Joseph Scalise Jr.

Joey, with the help of Dorothy and another truth manipulator Jen (all in the New York/Long Island area) convinced a lady in Florida (who went by the screen name MysteryMom7) to write a blog where they could post all their misinformation and try to convince readers that a serial killer was stalking its pages. That blog was called ‘Catching LISK’: https://mm7vslisk.wordpress.com/

NOTE: I wrote the above on July 11th, 2015. Anyone who has read my blogs long enough can see it was going to be another “Explanation Post”, explaining my blogs and my reasons for blogging about the Long Island Serial Killer case. I never came back to the post and in fact have not started any other post since then. Part is because this is a very busy time of year for me, but also, I come to the blog, and I’m once again just not sure what to write. There are many things I want to write about, but then I decide to wait a bit longer. I realized though that I can’t leave this post unfinished, still,  I’m going to skip straight to the point and leave out the long explanations for things I’ve explained many times over and probably will many times again. This note and all written below it was written today, 8-5-15:

The point I wanted to make with this post was that I had written about Joey and Dorothy and all the others and their online involvement in the LISK case because I found the things they wrote and discussed strange and (back then) couldn’t quite understand what was going on with all these people. I at first strongly thought it was just one or two people playing some kind of weird ARG but soon found out there was quite a few people involved and it was no game. At least not a game anyone should be proud of playing. And most of them weren’t. Quite a few have tried to keep me from posting their involvement with Joey and Dorothy though I long ago proved what they all were up to, and that they ALL worked together. (Too much explaining… sorry…)

Anyways, this blog was created to get away from all of that. I did what all I could with what I learned of the LISK case and exposed ‘Catching LISK’ and those who were a part of it. I could go on over exposing, but why? Even though Dorothy and Joey are still out there trying to push the same agenda, looking for mentally unstable and internet addicted know-it-alls to drag into it… it’s just a repeat right? Like a  rerun of a bad show…

Of course this blog was also created for a place to deal with any of the crazy off-their-meds types and trolls who might want to continue on. I mean I would never call anyone a cunt on my other blogs or make fun of an elderly woman in need of psychiatric help. I even used to criticize people who got out of hand with the name calling on other sites, but this was a place for that kind of thing. And to be honest, once I started Zero’s World I didn’t expect too many to take me seriously any more and the LISK conversations would end.

Quite the opposite happened. A lot of the trolls ran away and people wanted to seriously discus things. This was very unexpected.

I never want to discourage any type of discussion in the comments on my posts. And I do not want anyone to think I am done discussing LISK stuff… I have been reading everything I can on the Neil Falls guy, it does seem he could very well be the one who responsible in the deaths of at least some, if not all the girls I discussed in the  Lost Girls In Las Vegas post (again, thank you Annie for all the updates on this story). For those who don’t read the comments on this blog, please note that a lot of good links and ideas are there, it’s not all Nan Nan and Flukeyou drivel. If Falls is involved in any of the bodies found in Long Island, hopefully evidence will be discovered to link him. But I wonder how many are out there like Falls.

I am also waiting to hear more from the lawsuit against Dr. Hackett and what connections are to be made with John Bittrolff’s arrest.

I’m very hopeful that things will progress with the Long Island cases and answers will be known. Even when I’m not posting about it I am keeping up to date with all of it. As I have said before, this is with the help of others who also are staying up to date with all that is being said on the case.

That includes the bad reruns as well.

Although Joey/Flukeyou has stayed away since his comments a few months back (I’m guessing he didn’t really want to become the center of my posts like that) Others have come out (I have called it an onion or a rabbit hole, but that original thought of just a few people involved in the online agendas surrounding this case dwindles with each layer, or the deeper you go, which ever metaphor you prefer, you find someone new. Well sort of, most new people are old ones returning… there was just a lot more involved than I initially thought) To demonstrate what I mean in the parentheses, all we have to do is think of Nan Nan.

Nancy was new to me when I started this Blog, Zero’s World, but she wasn’t new at all. Just because I didn’t know of her did not mean she was new to all of this, You just had to know where to look:

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That’s Nancy on LISK.com (Facebook version). Yes, Nancy was not new to any of this, and the more you see how long so many of these nuts were connected and posting misleading to down right crazy posts on LISK and other real life cases, the more it should upset you. It does me. The fact that every corner turns over some one of questionable frame of mind and that there seems to be no bottom to the nut gallery bothers me to the point of not being able to write at all. I end up just coming to the blog pretending I’m gonna write something and going back to Fox News (The republican debates are tomorrow, man I can’t wait!).

When Dorothy returns to her favorite posting hole and writes things like this:

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You know I want to write a post countering her crap. I mean really, Dorothy has to stick up for Joey because he ain’t man enough to speak for himself. LMFAO, Fluke posted quite a bit of comments here “attacking” quite a few people, so my posts were just a response really. And Joey’s response was to stay away, so it worked. Though, as these comments from Dorothy show, my posts were not liked. And she felt the need to respond for Joe. Damn, Junior, that cowardly way about you shines though more and more… you got to see that about your self… others do.

These comments were pulled, not sure if Dorothy did it or someone at SMG’s Facebook did it. I’d say thank you, but I believe the only reason they were pulled was because I posted links to this blog in replies to Dorothy’s comments. Something I plan on testing again right after I post this today.

Although those comments were pulled, Dorothy has since left more:

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That’s from a few weeks ago… seems Dorothy doesn’t want any Disinformation about Bittrolff out there. A guy who is in jail on charges of murder of at least 2 girls somewhat linked to the LISK case. No, Dorothy prefers to post Disinformation on people who seem to have no connection to the case. In fact she posted Disinformation about me without a seconds pause. That is where Dorothy fails most of all, on those of us who know she has lied and made up stories about. It helps us to judge the things she says about others. That was one of the main reasons for this blog, and I nailed that no matter how you look at all of this.

And yet Dorothy still continues…

She left this comment yesterday:

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I’m glad to see neither I nor “Linda” are mentioned in this rant. But just to clear up “Disinformation”, or what I like to call ‘Dorothy Dogshit’, (I call it as it is) anyone who has followed this case, knows “The Drifter” has never claimed to have been at Brewer’s that night. This is something I believe comes from Flukeyou or maybe even Brewer early on. Cristin/MM7 had tried to say it was Hackett who made up the rumor of a “drifter” being at Brewer’s that night, I doubt that very much, my bet is on Brewer or Scalise (both Joey’s by the way, a confusing coincidence to add to the many confusing coincidences). Regardless of who brought the drifter to the police’s attention or tried to place him there that night, it’s been shown to not be true and The Drifter himself has said so numerous times in different places as well as in his book “Confessions Of The Oak Beach Drifter”, he was not at Brewer’s the night Shannan disappeared from his (Brewer) house.

So why does Dorothy think she can repeat such misinformation, such a bad rerun? Probably because there are people out there who don’t know enough about what Dorothy writes about and therefore just believes it because it is posted on a place like Shannan’s Memory Facebook. You would think someone there would know enough about the case to correct Dorothy when she makes such inaccurate comments. And yet no one there ever calls her out. I somewhat get that, I hate writing there myself, it shouldn’t be a place for such back ‘n’ forths. But someone has to call her out, right? I mean she mentions Cristin/MM7’s husband here. That can’t be overlooked. Does MM7 threaten to sue Dorothy? Does Danny Boy threaten to shove Dorothy’s computer up her ass? Those are the threats I got from the lovely couple when ever I mentioned them. Nope, no one calls her out except on the pages of this blog.

So I have to write this post, even though I really didn’t want to finish it. I really didn’t want to have to explain myself or this blog one more time. But I can’t let Joseph Scalise Jr. and Dorothy Price Hill just go unchecked each time they raise their ugly little heads, and that goes for any other old/new nuts who pop up from time to time… I eventually have to explain, I eventually have to set the truth as I know it.  Something I didn’t expect to have to do on a blog like this, but this blog is a growing, living thing at this point, and I can not control where it takes us, even if it some nasty old reruns once in a while.

Which again brings me back to the good discussions this place breeds. I mean it when I say I did not expect to be taken seriously after I started Zero’s World. My LISK Blog and the Red & Black were serious attempts at reaching people and understanding things, this blog was a way to say “Fuck You” to all those out there I felt needed to hear “Fuck You”. The fact that so many still come here to seriously discus LISK and other cases and so many still write me on Facebook with encouragement, thanks, or just to shoot the shit about things, does not get dismissed lightly by me. I appreciate all of you good eggs out there.

Good eggs and bad nuts, I know there is a Charlie and Willy Wonka comparison there, between squirrels and geese. But really this post has drug on long enough.

Bottom line, I’m here, and I’m not going anywhere. I accept my place in all of this (meaning life, the internet, and all that is posted here) and although this blog may have more conscious than I had planned for it (can’t help it, it’s who I am) it will continue in any and all directions without a map of any kind. It’s organic now and can’t be stopped. I hope old readers continue to find something worth reading each time they return and I hope new readers find a place here as well.

Most importantly I hope that one day I do not have to write about LISK stuff anymore because it is long overdue being solved and those responsible held responsible. Though even then I doubt the likes of Joey and Dorothy will stop. No, we will probably never see the day where they stop in their spread of sickness across the web, and therefore I will probably never totally be done with all this internet quagmire I stepped into.

Remember that years from now, Joey…. Dorothy, when you just want me to shut up and stop mentioning you. Remember how you used to once crave my attention.

Now to go ‘LINK’ this post to Dorothy’s latest comments and see if they suddenly disappear.

LISK.com & Catching LISK

LISK.com was taken down right around the time I started this blog. Catching LISK  followed suit a little over 3 months later. I have written about my experience since I started reading at both of these sites. Though this blog covered much more than what was found on the virtual pages of these two sites, it was definitely reading at these places that motivated me to write this blog. So I can not end this blog without giving my final thoughts on both of these places.

When I returned a third time to this blog, I was very much interested in who it was that created LISK.com. I thought they must have some info since they had behind the scenes views of who was behind all the comments on the site. I quickly found out who was the creator of the site and as it turned out it was not such a secret. The sites admin had been very cooperative with families of the victims from what I’ve been told. And as I spoke to more and more of the different people who commented there in the beginning I realized LISK.com went down but most of its secrets were already known.

So as I had discovered myself by reading as many old LISK.com posts and comments as I could find out there in the internet junkyard, something many commenters from the site that I spoke with, and from what I read in Robert Kolker’s “Lost Girls”, the echos of accusations of Dr. Hackett start with Flukeyou. The echos of people having damaging info against the Doc lead back to Flukeyou. Anyone who read at LISK.com knows Flukeyou not only tried to put blame onto the Doc, but many of the other neighbors at Oak Beach. But since Flukeyou is Joey Scalise Jr. as it is pointed out in Mr. Kolker’s book (though had been known by many readers at LISK.com and some had already pointed this out numerous times there) and is also lives in the same neighborhood as the Doctor, and it is known that there is a feud between the Scalise’s and some of their neighbors. Once all this is understood, then all the comments left by Flukeyou accusing the Doc of murder and his neighbors of covering it up become a little suspect. Most of the stuff I read in the comments of Flukeyou did not seem to hold truth. No where has it been said that any of the neighbors were at Brewer’s house that night, but we all know this has been put out there again and again by Flukeyou. There are also places Flukeyou accused some of these neighbors of more than just covering things for the Doc. From helping the Doc bury bodies to withholding evidence. Some of the things Flukeyou wrote about his great knowledge of what happened that night are so bad I can’t understand why someone would write them. I’m guessing at the time he didn’t realise everyone would know for sure who Flukeyou was one day. In fact in a phone call that MM7 recorded between her and Joey (it’s amazing how much stuff was passed around, why were these taped phone calls given to anyone? simple answer, because they didn’t trust each other) Cristin asks Joey  why he didn’t come to his mom’s defense when other’s were talking about her on LISK.com. he replied that he didn’t want people to know he was Flukeyou. She told him, I think everyone has that figured out, but he obviously did not want that known. Because now he can be held responsible for all the BS Flukeyou wrote. And I’m sure one day he will.

 

NOTE: This was written back in February  and was gonna be one of the last posts on my LISK blog, (probably right before or after my “Lost Girls” post) but I never finished it, parts of it ended up in the other posts, but here it is, unfinished, yes, but still part of my whole process, so some of you might have enjoyed reading it.

Other Unpublished LISK Blog Posts

So the last post on here came from my LISK blog. Some of you probably read it when it was first posted back in November of last year. Some thought I had gone to far with the post, and i agreed, but it got Joey’s attention, I received my first Flukeyou email (one of only two) shortly after I posted it. I took it down not for Joey’s sake, he’s a coward, and most of what I wrote was based on credible info, more credible than the crap Joey puts out there about his neighbors, no I took it down because I wanted the LISK blog to be looked at as a real attempt to see through the BS and games, and the skit might have made it look like more mud-slinging. But it was when I first started thinking about creating this blog Zero’s World, a place where I didn’t have to be careful or apologise for anything on it. I even did a couch skit for myself, one of my favorite posts!

So now thanks to our new Flukeyou comments I decided to put the Fluke Skit back up, and it fits here much better. In fact, I realized there are about 10 posts, from my LISK Blog, that I either removed or didn’t finish for some reason. maybe I should post them here before moving on again. Am I moving on? I really want to do some posts on some other things so yes, I am, sort of. I mean, no one would let me move on even if I really wanted to, and truth is I don’t want to. So no matter what I move onto, I’m sure it will always lead me back to my LISK blog, after all a good blog has to know its readers.

So what were the titles of these “LOST POSTS”?

LISK.com & Catching LISK

Going For Check Mate

Blog Down

Missing Comments

Email Threats

Harassed, Slandered, Defamed, and Stalked

There is also one with no title and not much or a post either, one I still am leaving unmentioned and the 2 Joey Couch Skits. the one I posted and the one I didn’t finnish, yes there was a second Joey Couch Skit.

Most of these came down to appease Mysterymom7 so you might remember reading them when they were up, but a couple were never finished, the blog moved on before I could finish the post.

So maybe these will be poping up again, here. Ok not maybe, they will be.