To all my east coast readers. Stay safe. Stay warm. Stay at home and read some blog posts!
Seriously though, it looks really bad out there, please be careful!
To all my east coast readers. Stay safe. Stay warm. Stay at home and read some blog posts!
Seriously though, it looks really bad out there, please be careful!
I came across 2 other very interesting stories out of Las Vegas while chasing the internet on the “Lost Girls In Las Vegas” post. One, another missing person mystery dealing with Utah and Vegas, I will cover in the next post. The other is the story of a serial killer named Stephen Morin, who traveled from New York to California, then through Denver and Nevada before being caught in Texas. Yes, the places this guy lived and killed in are also places some of my admirers could twist into some kind of connection to me and LISK stuff, I’m not trying to confuse things, just pointing out again how connections don’t always work the way Fluke, MM7, and Dorothy would like to believe. There is also a victim with the middle name Marie, but again, this case is solved, so there are no real connections here, just the coincidental kind that are always there.
Still I found the story of Stephen Morin gripping and full of weird side stories which kept me chasing it all day, coming to a new surprise each time. I will first tell the story as it unfolded on my computer screen, then piece it together chronologically as it actually happened… I’m sure you will find it as intriguing and as screwed up as I did.
The first article I came across was about a woman named Sarah Pisan:
From there I found this:
Who is Chris Clark? Even more so, who was his mom? I did not chase down his blog then but I did right now… it took me 3 clicks:
Since I did not have this till now, and have not looked over the blog yet we will move on for now.
Next I read this:
And a few other things like this:
At this point I still had so many questions and read one more article about what had happened in Las Vegas:
Wow, did he follow her to Texas? And where was his girlfriend during all of this… was she involved? Chris had said, “My mother and Ray went from town to town, San Francisco, Denver, Las Vegas, and into Texas.” So she was there the whole time. And though I’m thankful Margaret’s faith saved her, I don’t hold much for Stephen’s finding Jesus. Are we to believe God wiped his memory clean, leaving so many families to be left with no closure.
There was a lot more to this then I was reading. But from what I read, I got a good timeline. Stephen and his girlfriend’s son Chris (who knew Stephen as Ray Constantine) got Steve’s van set up to rape and kill, then Steve and his girlfriend (Chris’ mom) went to San Fransisco, I wonder how many victims he left there before they ran to Denver. It say’s he was convicted of the murder of Sheila Whalen, whose body was found in Denver, so we know there was at least one victim there before they ran to Vegas where he terrorized Sarah Pisan and killed her friend Cheryl Ann Daniels, though he was not convicted of this murder and I couldn’t find a whole lot on it other than what is said in the articles above.
Police find Sarah’s name and address in a wallet left behind by the killer. They find out that Stephen had been trying to get Sarah to go out with him, though he told her his name was Robert Generoso. Sarah goes to Texas to hide because it is now obvious that this guy has an obsession with her and she is in danger. Stephen and his girlfriend (who I have to believe is also his accomplice, but have yet to read this…well tell just a minute ago, but I’ll get to that) go to Texas, chasing Sarah. He was convicted of killing 2 women in Texas, Janna Bruce and Carrie Marie Scott. He killed Carrie while trying to steal her car, shortly afterward he kidnapped his last victim, Margaret Palm. She survived by reading from her Bible and praying for Stephen’s soul. He was later caught and 4 years later put to death.
I realized there was more to all of this but that is where I left it. Remember I was chasing other stuff at the time, this was all a sidetrack, sort of, kind of, in a way.
I would like to read Sarah’s book, I know there is a lot more to her story:
I also need to watch the episode of “Obsession: Dark Desires” dealing with this case.
I did find a few other things today while writing this, like the Chris Clark Coyote Crossing blog posted above and these:
That last one has most of the articles I chased all in one place, wish I had found that one first, lol.
I also found it mentioned on Reddit.com:
But it was this blog that I found really interesting today:
It was the comments that interested me… all to often it’s the comments where all the action is, we know this all to well:
Who is this John? Is he the owner of the place where Sarah worked? Yes, I do need to read the books written on this. Lolo gives the name of Chris’ mom and Stephen’s girlfriend as Rita Xavier, so right now while finishing up this post I Googled it with Stephen’s name and this came up:
Lolo comments there as well. I like Lolo.
Wow, the second thing I can find Googling Rita’s name is also comes up in a comment from Lolo to Chris:
I can’t find anything that tells what happened to Rita, again I guess I need to do some more reading. But from what I read so far, I’m with Lolo, she had to have known something. And it sounds like people were still enabling this guy all the way up to his execution and even after his death.
What an involved case. The whole thing kept me chasing. I’m glad it has an ending, so many don’t…
Most of us went looking at the links Annie posted about 3 dead prostitutes and 1 still missing out of Las Vegas. I had not heard of the story before and therefore went chasing the internet for what I could find:
I’m pretty sure I was accused of these murders by our good friend Dorothy at some point or another and will probably really get the idea stuck in her head now that I am posting about it. Let me get it out-of-the-way right up front, these cases were unknown to me untill Annie mentioned them. I’m not connected to these crimes or anyone involved in them anymore than all the others Dorothy has accused me of. But reading about them, there does seem to be similarities to the LISK and Atlantic City murders. Let’s discus them.
First off… four girls. We have 3 sets of 4 girls. Looks like a pattern, but that’s only if you make it fit. Yes, there were 4 girls found in Atlantic City and there were 4 girls found in Oak Beach… but that’s if you think Shannan’s death was not related to the other 4 girls… not to mention the other bodies and body parts found in the near by area of Oak Beach. They are called the AC4 and the GB4, but Gilgo Beach really has more than 4 unanswered deaths.
Still, let’s say all the other bodies found in Long Island are not related tothe GB4 and therefore can be linked to Atlantic City and Las Vegas through that pattern of 4. Well, even then it doesn’t quite fit, AC4 were found together, GB4 were found together, 3 of the Las Vegas girls were found in 3 separate states and 1 of them was never found. In fact after reading about all these cases it looks as if maybe the girl who was never found, Jessica Louise Foster may not be related to the other 3 girls found dead.
I really feel the answers to what happened to Jessica lies with the man she moved in with. He never reported Jessie missing from what I have read, that to me says it all… whether she was killed or sold into slavery, I would bet the boyfriend/pimp knows what happened. This may be not only an important observation on this case, but on many other similar cases.
So in my opinion the death of the 3 girls found are not related to Jessie’s disappearance, but that’s only because they do seem to be connected to each other and the result of a serial killer and not human trafficking disappearances. Let me try to explain what I mean.
As I have read into the LISK case and others like it, there seems to be 2 disturbing things going on… one is human trafficking, which is organized and involves groups of people, the other is serial killers who prey on prostitutes, less organized and usually involves only one person. Serial killers who prey on prostitutes do so because they are afraid, they are cowards at heart. They pick out their victims usually due to the fact that they are vulnerable and easy targets. There disappearances usually go unreported for long periods of times if they are reported at all. And once they are, it takes longer for police to get involved than the average missing person. They know all this and use it to their advantage because deep down they are weak, scared and pretty fucked up in the head. Of course some may have reasons for chosing prostitutes, issues with their moms or and ex girlfriend or something, but most do it because they it’s easy. As sad as that is, it’s the way it is.
Human traffickers do what they do for money, and are part of big groups that may have help from powerful people in the shadows of the darkest parts of the world. These are the people who scare me, these groups seem to be above the law and hidden from everyone… but we know they are there.
So, if Jessie was a victim of human trafficking we may never know what happened to her, but again, I bet her pimp/boyfriend knows.
Now as for the other 3 girls, why do I feel they are the victim of a serial killer and not a human trafficking group, well it’s mainly because they were found… but not just that. They were thrown off the side of highways, serial killers like to do this. I think professional groups can make you disappear, bottom line, scary, but true.
Now here’s where we get back into LISK similarities, all 3 of the girls found were dismembered. Some body parts were found, others weren’t. They also all had the same middle name, Marie, which was Shannan’s middle name, and I believe all of them had tattoos.
I don’t know what to make of the middle name thing, I truly doubt that there is any connection between these 3 girls in Vegas and Shannan, just another coincidence that seems to surround Shannan’s disappearance and death, but I’m not sure that the fact that all 3 girls had the same middle name are not connected in some way, seems way to much to just accept as no meaning at all. And again, seems like a serial killer thing more than a human trafficking thing.
Now the tattoo thing is something I want to talk about. I’ve heard many say they think the LISK murders has something to do with tattoos. This is because so many of the girls had them, in fact Peaches is called by her tattoo. And some of the Vegas girls were identified due to their tattoos just as some of the Long Island girls. I have to point out that these girls are not only in the sex for money scene, but drug scenes as well… and let’s face it, most people in either of these scenes have tattoos, that’s just the way it is. I don’t think any of these murders are connected to tattoos but I do wonder if the body parts left, were left because of the tattoos so that they could be identified. In other words there may be something to the tattoos, but what is unsure. It can definitely say something about the killer or killers though.
The fact that all 3 girls were found off the highway miles apart (one in Vegas, one in California, and one in Illinois) could mean the killer is a truck driver, picking up their victims as they drive through Vegas, then killing and dumping the bodies later along their trip. But where are they cutting the bodies up, in their truck? In a motel bathroom? And what is done with the rest of the bodies?
Definitely many questions here. But there was one thing that stood out to me. Lindsay Marie Harris.
All these girls came from somewhere else to Vegas, Lindsay came from New York. Which of course stood out to me since I’m used to reading about everything linking back to New York. And she didn’t come here alone. Her “boyfriend” brought her here. His name is Solomon Barron. He was conveniently back in New York when Lindsay disappeared.
Well something about that didn’t sit right, so I went searching to see if there was more on this Solomon Barron, and sure enough:
There ya go Dorothy, a real New York/Las Vegas connection. This guy was running girls across America to pimp them out. It makes me rethink my serial killer belief… maybe they were all killed for reasons other than some sick coward with women issues. I definitely think Mr. Barron should be furthered question about the death of Lindsay and the others.
In the end it doesn’t matter who is responsible for the deaths of these and the many other “working” girls who wind of murdered and their killers unknown. A serial killer or sex slave groups. Regardless, the cases do not seem to be taken seriously enough and all to often early leads are lost because of this. These “Lost Girls” were daughters, sisters, and mothers. Their deaths impact others just as anyones death does. Their murders deserved to be solved as much as any other murder. Their killers need to be caught just as any killer does. And like many of the other issues I attempt to tackle here on Zero’s World, I don’t think the world is discussing these things loud enough.
The deep, dark side of human trafficking needs to be exposed and brought out of the shadows. People should not be forced or manipulated into a life that leaves them to be vulnerable to cowards and psychopaths. Slavery may be good enough for the Bible, but it is not good enough for a world that is to continue on. And once again I wonder, are we to continue on? I hope so.
This only brings up more questions and possible connections.
Any new Cicada stuff out there? I haven’t even looked. But it’s that time of year.
I saw Anonymous is getting involved with the fight against terrorism:
And The Illuminati is taking over everything:
I bring up these 3 groups, because with all that’s going on in the world, it would be nice if we had some heroes… even some anti-ones.
But we are so involved in the back-n-forth. Victories are just the lead in to the next fight. Everyone’s pointing the finger at their oppressor and shouting demon! Actually we moved on from that… we now are pointing fingers at our accusers and shouting demon!
Even I, as I teach by example, have gotten too caught up.
Time to shake it off…
Alright, gonna get to all that nasty misleading gossip Nancy and Dorothy put out there the last couple days. It’s really quite compelling when you put it together.
But first, more reaction from the one who got this all started for me… Mysterymom7.
I know she’s probably baiting me just so I’ll mention her more often and then she can try to sue me again, but I just can’t resist the one who showed me ALL of this! Here’s her latest comments on ZW’s FB along with my answer:
All this is over a comment I recently made where I said MM7 was in the New York area. Now as I explained in my comment, no one gave me any gossip on MM7, but MM7 had been using her phone to read and comment here on occasion, and since it is a mobile device it changes its last 2 sets of numbers every time she comes on. But I watched the first 2 IP numbers closely (if this is confusing, don’t worry about it, the whole IP discussion is tired and really isn’t important any more with so many using mobile and proxy servers) Still using the Sta Counter that MM7 herself showed me how to use those first 2 IP numbers using the same mobile phone company popped up from time to time. Florida and then Massachusetts. But a few times it popped up in Bronx New York. Here’s an example of what I mean:
I bet this brings back memories Cristin! I need to point out… the MM7 next to the IP was written by me… I enter a name next to an IP when I have made a good guess who it is. You do this mainly by connecting IPs from this counter to those who made comments on the blog. In this case there a 3 comments on my blog from Cristin with this IP:
I chose this one because she was trying to warn Nan Nan about us… lmao.
This was how MM7 kept track of who was who on her old blog “Catching LISK”, and in fact it was her who kept insisting I do so on my blog. Well I did, and from what I can see it looks like MM7 was in The Bronx, New York.
Now back in the day of “Catching LISK” and “LISK.com” this would have been enough for Cristin or Dorothy to have used against someone else that they claimed were stalkers and serial killers. But with mobile devices and proxy servers, IPs aren’t always traced appropriately, and because of this I never mentioned the MM7 IP that looked to be coming from the Bronx, until now.
I did however, recently, mention MM7 being in the New York area, which I thought was fair, because she was in Massachusetts by her own admission.
There did I clear up the drama?
Look if MM7 says she is back in Florida, I believe her. If she says she wasn’t in New York, that’s fine too. All I said was New York area. I really don’t care where she is.
The main point of my question was whether are not she is still in contact with any of these people… which, I’d love to believe her when she says she isn’t. But her public comments always sound like she hardly had any contact with any of these people or worked with them on things she wrote in her blog or posted on the internet… and that’s just not true and she knows it:
This was about the whole Newman card player thing which she blames here on Dorothy, but I remember plenty of posts and comments from Cristin questioning CPH in Newman’s death and even as so far as to say CPH was posing as his dead friend playing poker… we all remember how that theory turned up right? PS149 ended all that quickly (PS149, why won’t you talk with me?!? lol). And there is so much more of these people working together. I’ve posted tons of it and have tons more to prove it. If I have to, which I guess I do. One of Cristin’s first emails to me mentioned Dorothy, when I asked her who Dorothy was. I was confused by some of the things I was finding on DPH (the name had just recently been brought up when PS149 on LISK.com had wrote that Cristin’s Fieldnotes interview was a fake and that someone had called though saying they were Dorothy Price Hill and they were the real MM7, games and BS probably done by Dorothy herself, or maybe Jen, not important to where I’m going with all this though) anyways, here’s is what Cristin first told me about Dorothy:
I’ve never heard of a political figure named Dorothy Hill, but I don’t think she’s that? Lol I have been speaking with her, though, although only one person knows that and it’s NOT Joe Scalise. So SHHHHH! lol We’re putting our heads and resources together.
Yea, they pulled their resources together alright. MM7 helped Dorothy with all her delusions… Dorothy in return helped Nancy with all hers.
How’s that. Am I gossiping, making anything up, lying? We know I’m not because it is ALL in ALL of your OWN words…
I guess it’s time for you all to start hating me again.
After writing that first Dorothy Propaganda post… I realized Dorothy had made some more posts on the Zero’s World Facebook. If you went to read there today, you probably saw them too. But since I have a feeling they will be disappearing soon, (plus most of you can’t see her FB posts, I covered that enough right?) here they are:
Linda is who she says she is. Others besides me could vouch for her if needed, but it’s not needed here. She is who she says she is. Just ask your old friend Jen. As for the language, that’s something I will be addressing later. Some of you constantly complain about the language, but have no problem saying some fucked up things yourselves. But as I said, I’ll get to that later, it deserves its own post. Back to DPH’s assault on ZW’s FB:
I love her comment there. Can never get enough people praying for you, especially when I have so much anger. But then she posted something that contradicted something she already wrote (I say that like it never happens…lol):
I just asked you if you, Dorothy had had lunch with Nancy like she said you did. Remember?
If you had said yes, I’d have no reason not to believe it happened. I think you 2 should do lunch together! But you said no, and now you sound like, “maybe we did”. Lies always lead to contradictions… IMO.
So then she questions me and my motives, once again:
I could hit hard here and ask if your life was so good, Dorothy why’d your real parents give you up? Or how bout what happened to you sisters? Hell, your whole life is a sob story after another… but let’s just say, you life is and has always been golden, most places have bad things happen in them… turn on the news, my point was, not everyone who grow up in hard times becomes an evil master mind criminal. If you disagree Dorothy, well who cares, won’t make you right.
Now as for all the questions about me… my identity is not important, so stop chasing it. Whether I’m Richie, Alan, Jim, Stu, or any one else you have dug up and anyone you WILL dig up on the internet, it doesn’t really matter… I have no role in any murders or conspiracy. I have no connections to anyone in New York or Florida for that matter. I am not gonna be phased by lies you come up with or stories you spin. Why? Because it’s not the truth you say I should demand. Just lies and stories.
But Dorothy did post something on SMG’s Memory FB today, that I do agree with:
Although it was a cheap shot to drop another name, I x’d it out even though it’s out there on FB, because I still have not talked to the creator of LISK.com and might want to some day, no need to piss them off, lol. The comment she uses from the site is a good one though, and like I said, I agree with it! But Dorothy, you do realize, you are one of those people who claims to know what happened, you and your “buddies”.
The last 2 posts were stories from my own back yard, here in Vegas, but this new post is bringing me back to New York, and an internet mystery that goes back years. I’m sure Dorothy will try to connect all this to her east coast conspiracies, which is fine, I guess, but I’m hoping for actual insight into this new mystery and not agendas from the same old crazy people.
I only started looking into this yesterday, so my information on all of this is limited and possibly incorrect, but we have to start somewhere, so here’s my summary of what hopefully will become another ongoing subject here:
Though it may go back many more years, the mystery itself seems to begin around 4 or 5 years ago on a site called Reddit which is described as “an entertainment, social networking service and news website where registered community members can submit content, such as text posts or direct links”. The story seems to center around a Reddit member called Religion Of Peace (RoP) and a website called “That Old Guy Image Hosting”, a site RoP had posted on Reddit. It was located at Lakecityquietpills.com. From what I can tell the site is no longer there, or at least I can’t get to it, though according to the Wayback Machine, someone archived it (or crawled it) last month, so maybe it is still there. Here is a look at the sites “about” page:
I have (through the Wayback Machine) seen some of the site and the images posted there, and just a warning if you do go searching for it, there is nudity in these images, in fact some might consider this a porn site. Although there are all sorts of JPG images here, most do have a naked or half-naked girls in them. Ohhh porn… I got some of your attention now, don’t I, lol.
How does this all become a mystery that continues on to this very day? Well it starts when someone called 2-6 writes on Reddit that Religion Of Peace had died at the age of 79. From there it all took root. There was talk of RoP possibly being a mercenary or assassin of some sort. I’m not sure if this was something people thought before or only after the news that RoP had died and some of the strange things were discovered. What strange things? Well remember that porn site of RoP’s, seems there might be some hidden stuff there.
Here’s where it starts to get confusing for those of us who are not into HTML and source codes, but there seemed to be text hidden at http://www.lakectityquietpills.com, before we get to that, let’s take a look at this domain name.
From reading comments left on Reddit about all of this, it seems most people think Silent Pills means bullets, and I’d have to agree. Then a quick Google leads you to Lake City, Mo. and the Lake City Army Ammunition Plant (LCAAP):
Though I saw some comments on Reddit that say something about a The Iowa Army Ammunition Plant:
I don’t know why Iowa is brought up, maybe it was a mistake, and they meant the plant in Missouri, or maybe I missed something. I should also point out that there is a Lake City, Florida, but that’s really just to confuse a few of my readers…lol.
Since I read, (as I’m sure anyone else did, looking into this) “Over 99 percent of all small-arms bullets (5.56-millimeter [mm], 7.62-mm and .50-caliber) consumed by the Army under its Title 10 responsibility to supply and equip its forces are manufactured at the Lake City Army Ammunition Plant.” So,Lake City Quiet Pills seems to be referencing the LCAPP. And a comment found that was made by someone called Angel Two-Six (remember someone called 2-6 was the one to come to Reddit and let them know RoP had passed on) seems to help point us that way: “Dispensing Lake City Quiet Pills to lousy bastards in need of permanent rest since 1968.”
I know some of this may be already getting confusing, so let’s just get straight to the text found hidden at the Image Hosting site with the army bullet domain name:
12 March 2010 spec: 4/team – 3mo sec gig. fed ccw a plus. no us w/w. spec: Four for 24/7 DP. one week gig. fluent english. working french a plus. 2-week 1/4 pay sequester on refusal. bonus.
08 March 2010 FilledXXXXX spec: 2 lite surveil. no us w/w. no mex w/w.
04 Mar 2010 spec: 2 no EU w/w. working dutch a plus.
22 Feb 2010 LOSTXXXXXspec: 2 “business class” security. nonconus. fluent french req.
21 Feb 2010
FilledXXXXX spec: Need 6 eng speaker. private sec at sea. recent s or sbs preferred. no UK or RSA w/w. bonus.
19 Feb 2010
news: med insurence went up. sory. me an shade cut our take by 5% to help cover the tab. You pay 2% more. FilledXXXXX spec: Immediate need! 4 korean. fluent korean/dialect/accent details after contact. 6 week halfpay sequester on refusal. 6mo gig. bonus.
02 Feb 2010 party bills
here is the final for the party
hotel rooms 48341 limo 6080 bus 569 bar bill 18890 food 8030 dancers 8300 misc tips 850 misc exp 2840 med supplies 180 (fat tommy and stu are okay, to.)
you all did dutch milo proud. thanks.
18 Jan 2010
we got 38 rooms in the marriot on 46. shade has the key cards for locals (pick up at the party). give your travel name to the desk and that’s it. no id needed since were covering the bill. keep the room service under 500, okay? the phones there are not secure.
bus from the hotel leafs at 1330. car service vowchers for return trip when your ready to crash. DONT DUI!!!!
12 Jan 2010
hapy new year, everyone.
were having a birthday party for the old man on the 19th. party starts at 1500 at the usual. send your rsvp to shade. fyi, were booking a room for 3 days for anyone coming from out of area, and overnight for locals.
come hoist one for dutch milo!
14 nov 2009
milos will clered probait. sirprize! milo was loded. email shade if we sent you out in 2005-2009. shade will have cheks cut for you. amont is by how many times, not by pay total. small share is 3-4k.
30 Sept 2009
For those who have asked, I bricked Milo’s IronKey the same day. All is well.
FilledXXXXX spec: Need 4 eng speaker. DP. No US W/W.
17 July 2009 I am sorry to tell you that old Milo died yesterday. He went quiet and calm, not like we all figured. I gave that fat mangy cat of his to the little girl next. No services or nothing, you know Milo. I’m taking his ashes back to where his farm was. Close to it anyway. Theirs a mall where his place was.
So hoist a few for the old man. Remember what he said, keep the faith with the man who’s got your back.
FilledXXXXX spec: Immediate need! 8-10 chinese/korean. fluent korean/dialect/accent details after contact. 12 week halfpay sequester on refusal. FilledXXXXX spec: Four for 24/7 DP. two week gig. fluent english. 2-week sequester. FilledXXXXX spec: Four eng/french private security on cruise. Must be bondable. FilledXXXXX spec: Immediate need! 12 SA Spanish speaking. No papers required. No records kept. 4 week paid sequester if refused. filledXXXXX spec: Four – Italian/Spanish speakers. No euro w/w. must be bondable. filledXXXXX spec: Four for 24/7 DP. four week gig. english speaking. Spanish/Portuguese fluency a plus. filledXXXXX spec: Need formed group (8-10). single op. deliv bonus. “gentleman’s agreement” insurance. Immediate need. LostXXXXX spec: three chinese/korean. fluent korean/dialect/accent details after contact. 6 week sequester. filledXXXXX spec: two ground types. fluent farsi arabic french. no papers, no problems. filledXXXXX spec: Need 5 fluent Portuguese, no euro w/w. 6 month private gig.
filledXXXXX spec: Need 2 eng speaker. private sec at sea. HW exp a must. recent s or sbs preferred.
Shade is maintaining the calendar and access to the filedump. Angel has the job postings for EU and asia. We aren’t sending anyone to ME. No one. Don’t ask for listings.
What to make of all this? Well it does look like possible mercenary type stuff is going on here, but is it real? A new name, Milo seems to be given for RoP, and this is discussed on Reddit as well. We also see the name Shade used here, as well as the names Fat Tommy and Stua (who thankfully are OK) all freinds of RoP aka Milo? The text itself is believed to be written by the fore mentioned Angel.
If you are totally lost, I understand, and you might want to wait till I write about something else (nan nan). But if you are intrigued to read further let me throw a conspiracy theory in here. Some think the above hidden comments have something to do with the assassination of Mahmoud Al-Mabhouh . I’m guessing mainly because of the dates of the assassination being the same as the “party” mentioned in the hidden text. Now this seems absurdly crazy to me, but it shows how much people have looked into this strange site of a possibly dead mercenary. Most think the “party” was just what it says, for the memory of their good friend Milo, and most think it took place in New Jersey and New York (There ya go Dorothy, run with it).
Before we go any further you need to read some of this for your self:
This is a thread on Reddit started by zaasakokwaan, who from what I can tell was the first to find the hidden text. This is important, because of the who smelt it dealt it rule. meaning if this is a hoax or game, the person who first brought it to light is most likely involved. The same goes for the 2-6 person who let everyone know RoP was dead (which goes along with the hidden text about Milo). Now this was 4 years ago, and I have only looked into it for the past 24 hours, so I’m not trying to jump to conclusions, just pointing out what I think might need to be pointed out.
The next thread that seems to be linked is by stereoa:
Alright, so 8 to 9 months seemed to have gone by since the announcement of RoP’s death by 2-6 and then zaasakokwaan get’s everyone’s attention with a possible mystery… now we are getting some where, right?
Well it didn’t get anywhere for 4 years. Though new threads are still popping up on Reddit and it’s section called RBI (Reddit’s Bureau of Investigation) a Readdit member called Jasenlee seemed to have done a lot of research on it all over the years. A thread by vivannick1 only a few days ago shows that no answers are yet known: http://www.reddit.com/r/RBI/comments/25gtvo/i_found_a_new_page_for_lake_city_quiet_pills/
And this thread by mdax8414 makes it seem like there is no mystery to be solved:
So what exactly went on here, was RoP aka Milo a real person who was ex military and ran an image sharing site with their old buddies, and if so was it a front for something else? Or was the whole thing some kind of game or hoax, and if so, how and why did it go on for so long, what is it’s purpose, if any?
To me though, just because so many people have been looking into it so deeply fascinates me enough, that hoax, game, hidden conspiracy, or just people looking into a group of military buddies, it don’t matter. The journey the whole thing took is what pulled me in.
I know most of my readers have come to read here because of my look into a site called Longislandserilakiller.com and the many screen names that use to post there. A lot of those screen names became readers of my LISK Blog. Some became commenters there. And yes some even followed here, wanting to see what I would say next. I’ve been praised for seeing exactly what was going on in all those comments and accusations, but I’ve also been labeled the Devil and the one who has really misrepresented things here. I doubt most of those who think the latter have actually read what I have written. I suggest you go back and actually read my LISK blog.
The “Red & Black” was my attempt to make the internet a better place. This Zero’s World blog is my way of saying that ain’t happening any time soon.
But my LISK blog was a real look at someones search for the truth in a situation very out of control. From beginning to end it is a year-long look into someone (me), who came across all of you and tried to understand what you all were doing. It’s what I got out of all your comments and accusations. And I think we all know, I pegged most of you, eventually at least. Problem is, it is indeed an onion with many layers of people willing to lie and play screen name games.
I thought I was done. And that blog is done. But it seems more is needed. So here we go, an epilogue, if you will:
Those who were not involved in games but just were wrapped up in them to stop them, like Linda and To Close To Home, were shown at least to me for who they truly are, and the things they have said never was part of the lies and games, but screams of outrage at those who continued to play the games. Lots of others involved like MDRice and Fascinated were just readers brought into the confusion.. also not part of the games and agendas… those who I believe who were really part of the games and agendas come in 2 sides from what I can see, ( I can hardly believe I’m going through all this again, but I am…) We have the agenda… started by the screen name Flukeyou which everyone now knows (though Flukeyou denied it many times) is Joey Scalise Jr. an Oak Beach neighbor with an obvious agenda, lie about his neighbors enough till others started in on those lies. And who fell in line? Well there was Truthspider, a sleuth with some good questions at least about one of Joey’s neighbors, Dr. Hackett. But with out Truthspiders input in all this (and I have not had any, that I know of) it is hard to tell how much he was involved in the LISK.com comments that made him and Flukeyou look like they might be collaborating. Then there is Mysterymom7 who used both Flukeyou and Truthspider information mixed with her own ideas and created the Blog Catching LISK. So much went wrong from here, a whole collection of people “helping” each other. Mysterymom7 had emails and phone calls with Joey, Dorothy, and Jen. Jen had been to both Joey’s and Dorothy’s house. All of them at some point worked together. They may try to deny this, but they can’t, because they have all admitted to it at one point or another. So Joey had these 3 ladies, now with agendas of their own, (in the case of Dorothy, she had her own agenda from the beginning and it was to become part of this case and write a book about it, MM7 got caught up in it all and I think still doesn’t see the dynamics of all these people getting evolved in this and what it has done, and Jen, well her agenda or reason for bring involved is still not clear to me, is she just “a typical Long Island know it all who feels compelled to inject her self into the situation, with little to no regard for the people who matter” as I have been told by quite a few, or has her constant insert of herself into this case and everyone involved really given her some information that can be used? Highly doubtful if it hasn’t yet. That’s more Dorothy type stuff, isn’t it? But I’ll give JJJ the one ups on Dorothy there. Everyone seems to have met Jen, Dorothy can’t get anyone to listen to her) Wow, long parentheses, and all just my opinion from what I have witnessed, why these 3 ladies got involved and stayed involved is on them. But Like I said, Joey’s agenda is known by all. Even in the book Lost Girls by Robert Kolker, you can see Joey’s obsession with proving things he can’t honestly prove. And the stuff he’s posted under the screen name Flukeyou over the years about his neighbors was just lies and misinformation to get help with his agenda.
Before we get into the game part we have to go to a gray area… PS149. And I mean who ever commented as PS149 on the final days of LISK.com. Although not knowing who they are can mean they can be any part of the games or agendas, as far as all the posts on LISK.com, they were all true, from what I remember. I wrote a little bit about Ps149 in the blog, but I think I misunderstood them at first. Not knowing where people fit in can do that, and it did to me throughout the year. Point is, though PS149 is a controversal subject in a way when we talk about the games and agendas of some of these screen names, looking back, I can see them as just someone wanting to expose lies themselves could see. Again not knowing who they are makes it hard to know. And also again, I’m talking about the Ps149 on LISK.com.
Agenda really became game once Catching LISK was made and the 69 IP , under the screen name C Peter Hackett made the very first comment there and the first of many commnets from this IP address.. This IP address would use many other screen names on the Catching LISK blog as well as my own blogs. Mostly using the screen name NERD but also connected to the screen name AMD which brings in a couple other IP addresses. But there were even more screen names being used out there, some by NERD or AMD, some by Jen or Dorothy, a few by Joey himself. And a lot of others who seem to be hit and runners. Agenda became game. And though most of it has been exposed people still want to keep it going. Like Nancy. Who seems to know nothing about the real LISK case, other than what she got from Dorothy. But Nancy brings in a whole new can of worms to all this. Centereach and NERD are now somewhat trying to be explained with the “Figat Connection”. More games if you ask me. I know who asked me? Trust me, I have tried to stop giving my opinion on all this many times, but then that onion is peeled back a little more. Like the new Flukeyou comments on my LISK Blog:
They have the same email address that has been on other comments I believe to really be Flukeyou, the same Gmail account I have received 2 emails from that I believe are from the real Flukeyou, meaning Joey. But these 3 new comments have some weirdness to them, first off, the IP addresses seem to imply they come from Florida, second we have the use of the plus sign (+) sign instead of the usual equal sign (=). Both are on the same key so could just be a mistake. But who made it? A vacationing Joey making a “key” mistake from the actual Keys? Or someone else in the Keys hitting the wrong key while pretending to be Flukeyou… or a third choice, someone wanting me to think someone in Florida was writing as Fluke. Confused? Me too. Is this Key Largo Fluke really Joey? Or someone else who is foolish enough to want to still play?
Let us know Key Largo Fluke. Are you the real Fluke, still the coward, posting Fluke equations based on lies and Joey agenda, or are you another pretender, hoping to keep the game going? Either way, man up, or woman up. But come up out of the games and agendas. No ones buying them.
There did I cover enough? It’s never enough is it? My LISK Blog was done but some of you want me to continue. And thanks to those like Dorothy who want to throw my name around, I continue to continue. And continue I shall…
The east coast got some snow.
I spent one winter in New York, when I was in third grade. I was told it was a mild winter, and to be honest, as a kid who had lived on the west coast before (and after) I had the time of my life building snowmen and having snowball fights. But when I turn on the news and hear about the storm that has hit the Northern East coast, I am thankful to be out here on the west coast away from all that cold.
I know I have quite a few readers from the New York area. I hope you are staying as warm as possible! Brrrrrrr! I’m cold just thinking about it!