Encore

I’ve become so numb. But you know me, I always end up pulling it together. So let’s pull it together, together.

Can I get an encore, do you want more? I hope so, ’cause I’m ready to go one more round.

On December 27th 2013 I posted an Eminem video (The Monster) and Zero’s World was born. Eminem not only became the first thing posted each new year of the blog, but Eminem became the theme music to which I wrote most of the posts and hopefully the soundtrack to which you read the blog. Some people still don’t get why Eminem. I’ve explained this before and probably will again, like all things dealing with this place, it’s complicated. The important part is we have made it to year 4 and Eminem is here for us. I chose a hybrid track to put this last year into motion and it fits, since this blog is a bit of a hybrid blog. Mixing it all up.

I know along the way many of you thought I was shady. And with some of you the feeling was mutual. But as a close friend of mine would say, “You got me fucked up!”. I’m not really all that shady, in fact I’m as sunny as that California state I go on and on about. Ok maybe not that sunny, but definitely as bright no matter how dark you may find me. (Is anyone enjoying this wordplay?) Hopefully this final year of posts will show this in a better light. And some of you might start, seeing me less as the shady one and more of the Doc type. I’m not talking about Hackett either. I mean Doc like as in the one in charge or the guy who will put you on the couch (‘Member? Yea, I ‘member).

So, with all that being said (wordplay and all), Get your ass up for the doctor
One more time, get your ass up for the doctor, Come on now, here we go, cliff hanger, it’s another club banger. Got you hangin’ on the edge of your seat.

Yep, here we go again. I’m gonna do what I do best. Get under the skin of the trolls and the righteous. Make you all think twice before you decide to fuck with another human being. I know, that’s a lot to ask for, but I’m gonna do my best to get us all there. I know there will continue to be naysayers and haters, but you had your chance. Times up, games over, you lose, I win ’bout to show these knuckleheads how to do this here. Yep, just call me turnip, because I’m ’bout to turn it up!  Sorry, that was bad.  You get me though, we are ready to actually go somewhere.

Ooh yeah, new year, next phase, begin, Look who’s got you goin’ crazy again. I do bring out the crazy in people, don’t I? Just look what I have done to our little loud mouth Fluke. He’s almost pathetic to look at now. Minus the almost. LOL, did I do that? Did I help make you irrelevant? Give it up Junior, I’m a trend, I set one every time I’m in, I go out and just come back full circle again. You a fad, that means your something that we already had. But once you’re gone, you don’t come back, too bad. Ha, ha!
That goes for all the loud mouth nuts. Dorothy, MM7, Jen, and all the others I haven’t really gotten to… yet. You’re off the map now, radar can’t even find you. We stay on the grind, you slip, we out-grind you. You walk around mad, you let your anger blind you. We walk around just playin’ the violin behind you. 
I love that line because it’s funny but also very true. While so many of you were bitching about me and my blogs and the good apples who found something here, we have been playing that mocking violin, exposing your blind anger and madness. It’s been quite a journey so far. This can’t go on forever though. Like I said, you had your chance, now enough with all the pissin’ and moanin’, whinin’ and bitchin’. Sit and observe, listen, you’ll learn if you pay attention.

Now can I get an encore, do you want more? I hope so, because I can’t do it without you. So for one last time I need y’all to roar!  I know I can count on a few of you to give this place a proper send off and finally get to the point. I bet some of you are saying, well get going, Now what the hell are you waitin for?  I hear ya, but we got to do this right. Because after me, there shall be no more.  Ok, that might be taking the whole narcissistic, arrogance a step to far, but I bet there won’t be anyone quite like me. So for one last time, nigga make some noise (that one’s for you Dorothy). But really, everyone, it’s time to speak up or shut up. So all my people on the left, all my people on the right, scream one last time. 

Funny, that right when I decided this blog had outlived its purpose it started getting attention again. Nerd and PS149 have returned (and yes, that is the “real” PS149), links to the blog are popping up in different places, some certain Websleuthers are dropping my name (by the way, comments like “Go ask your friend zero” do not go unnoticed, I have eyes everywhere! LMAO). It’s getting crazy out there again, the buzz is tremendous, we drop you all to sense it. I don’t gotta promote it for you to know that doc is off the benches. And I seem to have put together a pretty good team of my own. Well better than Dorothy’s crazy team anyways.  Just call us doody, ’cause we da shit. Or as Linda once so awesomely put it, “we are dope, you’re just dopes”.  You see, we keep the party rockin’ off the henges.
We ain’t showin’ off, we just goin’ off popular consensus.

Still my critics say that Doc is soft, Doc is talk, Doc is all washed up. To which I reply: Knock it off Who the fuck is Doc impressin’?
Doc is this, Doc is that, you got the wrong impression. You must be on the cock of Doc, cause Doc left you all guessin’.  No more guessing. It’s time for everyone to stop guessing. It’s time for everyone to just say what ya know. But know what ya say, because I’m here… no we are here (remember when I used to criticize everyone for saying “we” all the time, when they just meant “me”, then I started using “we” in jest, then I realized there really was a bad “we” out there, and now there is actually a good “we”.

So DJ take the needle and just drop it on the record (what)

We gon’ have this motherfucker hoppin’ in a second (bump bump)

That’s why we always save the best cut last, to make you scratch and itch for it like fresh cut grass.

You can try to deny it but I know you all are jonesing for me, for us, for this. So here it is, back one last time to satisfy your addiction. It’s time the war was won once and for all. By the way Dorothy (and I know you are hanging on every word) you can declare “war” on Zero’s World, it won’t change the facts that we already won most of the battles.  Cause we done swam with the sharks, wrestle with alligators. We took on Flukyou’s slander, Cristin’s lies, Dorothy’s delusions, Nancy’s insanity, McKee’s misdirection, Jen’s cryptic course, Son of Man’s crazy conspiracies, a hand full of self-important Websleuthers, a ton of sock puppets, as well as racist and bigots from all over Facebook and Twitter. And we won each time. No one wanted any of this, lol. In fact I bet a bunch of you are still worried about what you say out there. Posting then deleting, afraid it’s gonna show up in a post. And it probably will.
Some of you out there don’t want to admit it, but I think you are kind of a scared of this place. You see what can be done here. We go toe to toe, tit for tat, and we can play the back and forth all day. We can outwit, outplay, outlast!(speaking of which, did anyone else watch last season of Survivor? It was a good one) Point is, we took it all on and we are still standing. Most would probably agree, much, much wiser.
When I finally write that last post a year from now, I hope I have made some more new friends, I know I will have a few new enemies. Hopefully most will see through it all and realize some things are not so simple, some things aren’t always what they seem. But I know for some of you that’s just not possible. No matter what I say or do, no matter what is shown to you, you are gonna always see me as the “bad guy”. Every step that I take is another mistake to you (Caught in the undertow just caught in the undertow) And every second I waste is more than I can take…

Everybody sing along with me:
I’ve become so numb I can’t feel you there
I’ve become so tired so much more aware
I’m becoming this all I want to do
Is be more like me and be less like you

Man, how that rings true to me. I’ve been accused of many things since I first came across (and started blogging about) LISK.com and Catching LISK, but the ones  that say I’m no better than Fluke or Dorothy or that my blog is as bad as MM7’s blog, those hit too close to the mark. To think I might have become as bad as those I spoke out against, well, that’s something I can’t let happen. Yes, it may just be an elaborate way to show how we all get sucked in. How the bullied become the bully, the sane become crazy. How the internet can twist us all. Yes it may have gotten a little out of control at times… But I can’t become this.

So let’s pull it all together… together.

Here we go… Hands up for the grand finale! And keep them raised, this is gonna be another roller coaster of a ride.

Now can I get an encore, do you want more?

So for one last time I need y’all to roar!

One last time I need y’all to roar…

 

Dorothy, Flukeyou, & Dr. Peter Hackett

 

So back at the beginning of March something was posted on the “Praying For Shannan Maria Gilbert” Facebook page that really had me troubled. I kept going back to it to see if anyone else would correct it or at least question it, because it was just so far from right. We’ll get to that at the end of this post.
At the end of March Flukeyou came back to the comments. We haven’t heard from Junior since last summer:

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2015/06/28/a-closer-look-at-flukes-comment/

Damn, that was almost a year ago. I almost thought we had heard the last from Fluke here at ZW. Nope… he has returned and his comment (as usual) also… so far from right. We’ll get to Fluke and his comment right before we get to what was left on the SMG Facebook page, and in the end you’ll see how it all fits together… but first let’s discuss how far from right Dorothy’s comment on Bill Windsor’s Facebook was. Yes, Dorothy left a new message on Bill’s FB. It happened in the middle of the month, sandwiched in between the SMG FB comment and Fluke’s comment here. The far from right sandwich. Whose hungry?

Miss DPH if you please:

dph on bill fb

WTF?!? Anyone who follows the Lawless America saga (saga seems to be the new “it” word for my posts) knows of Bill’s ongoing tales of court corruptions and hatred for Montana. But what does Connie Plaissay have to do with any of Bill’s crap?

Again, Cristin (MM7) and Michelle McKee (and RadioNewz, though as parody I’m sure) brought Murt into the LISK case via MM7’s drone stalker and it should have been called out by anyone, everyone involved in any of it. I think I was the only one to call it out. Cristin never admitted Murt was not involved, McKee won’t even acknowledge her part in it, and RadioNewz never explained their satire posts about it did not in any way truly link Murt to LISK. In fact they all probably loved it. And as I have said before, this led to people saying Murt was Morrie (Morrie is CCC stuff, I promise we are getting to a CCC post very, very soon, but all this must be said first) and a post on Murt in the Shannan Gilbert blog (again showing Cristin’s influence on Mari at the time). Is this fun and games or are people wanting misinformation out there on the LISK case?  I seriously question this now, and maybe a few of you will by the end of this post.

So just how Cristin brought all the craziness from Murt, McKee, and Radio over to the LISK case… Dorothy keeps trying to bring the LISK case over to Bill and his Lemmings (in Nancy’s case, she did just that).

Why is she even commenting there any more? Didn’t she accuse Bill of being linked to LISK and the Drifter?

dph on bw

Yes. There is Dorothy trying to bring the LISK case directly into Bill W’s lap. LOL at my mention. I seem to be angry with everybody… right? Key word is “seem”. I’m not mad at Bill, though the ones involved in these types of internet feuds that take it to the level of lawsuits really are a lowly breed (you all know who you are). Point is, Bill or someone should have caught on to Dorothy’s crap and blocked her from commenting on his stuff. Get the theme here yet?No? Well let’s start from the top then.

Dorothy posted her comment this month on Bill’s FB vaguely connecting what Bill said about Montana to Connie P. We all know who she got that name from… Mr. Joey “Flukeyou” Saclise Jr. We also all know the rumors behind the reason Fluke brings Connie into his circle of evil he claims are his old neighbors. No need to rehash them again. But it is sad that Fluke does not bring up Connie himself but relies on Dorothy (a woman in a questionable mental state) to do his dirty work. Gutless, shameless, and just plain less. So let’s get to Flukeyou:

fu lisk blog 3 28 16

There we go… Fluke gives out names to Dorothy to drop in vague and cryptic comments all over the web, but he saves his favorites for himself. Junior has a beef with all his old neighbors, but man he really hates the Cannings . What ever his real issues with all of his old neighbors are, the association trying to kick his family out or his neighbors involved with extra marital affairs, possibly involving his mother (damn, I said I wasn’t gonna bring the rumors up), he seems to hold the Cannings’ most responsible. Which to me (though I’m no psychiatrist) is why he makes them the most responsible with holding back information in his tale of Oak Beach corruption and murder.

Enough psycho mumbo jumbo, let’s simplify it.

I have always said Dr. Hackett is and should still be on the radar of anyone who looks at this case or anyone involved in this case. There are many reasons in my opinion to feel this way, most recently the stuff that has come out on James Burke. After all, wasn’t Hackett  the former director of Suffolk County emergency services? I still feel he is a strong suspect. But as I have said before, Flukeyou, Dorothy, and others only made me less suspicious of the Doc after seeing the lies and games they got out there early on in all this. And even though Cristin and even Nancy were smart enough to get away from the lies and misinformation that has come from you all getting together, Dorothy and Fluke keep it going to this day (as their recent comments show).

Fluke (and I hope you are reading this), if you just wanted to say CPH=LISK, and explain all the reasons you think it’s him, that would be one thing. But to get crazy women on the internet to help you in smearing every one of your neighbors is down right psychotic. Even if you really thought some of your neighbors were hiding something, the personal attacks would not be necessary. You have deep-rooted issues that have created this obsessive hatred for those you once called neighbors.

More psycho mumbo jumbo… pointless, you guys aren’t gonna see what you do. And it seems you aren’t gonna stop what you do. But why is the misinformation and straight out lies not confronted more? (How many times have I asked that question?) Other than here, that is (yea, that’s for the haters).

If you can’t trust LE for the right information, who can you trust? When everyone on the internet is chasing the same misinformation, who can you trust? When even the families of victims and those close to the case are taken in by misinformation, who can you trust? Who can you get the right information from? And more importantly, is it so tainted that no one has the right information to work on? Is everybody that far from right that a tragedy is badly being misrepresented and misguided, leading it to remain unsolved?

Well, I once again point out, that if Cristin and McKee hadn’t connected (pretended) Murt as MM7’s so-called  drone stalker and if Cristin wasn’t helping Mari with the Shannan blog, I’m sure this post never would have been out there: https://officialshannangilbert.wordpress.com/murt-many-names-many-agendas/

And that’s just one example of the many in the pages of this and my LISK Blog. Everyone involved in allowing it, even me. Yea, but at least I’m trying to call it all out (again, for my haters, though I don’t know why, most never make it this far in a post if they even read them at all). I keep calling it out because I don’t understand it. Do any of you really think you are helping?

Fluke? Dorothy? Jen? Anyone? I know I’m not. And I really do try to. Yes, even though I lost faith in the “saving the world” via internet long ago, I still try to help point out the lies, agenda, and just plain misinformation out there on the LISK case. I have grown close to the case and would like to see it solved and the victims and all that knew them to see justice and have some kind of closure.

Yes, I try to help, but sadly I know that this blog is not in the position to do so. If I can see that, I would think those of you so obviously doing your best to spread bad information must know you are not helping. Right? And everyone who helps it spread or just let’s it sit without any attempt to set it right… well you know you are not helping, right?

So the question becomes who really wants to help solve this case? I know there are some out there, but the ratio is just all bad. There are just way to many who seem to not care about helping at all or are just to crazy, stupid, or stubborn to see they are not helping. Which brings me to what was left on the “Praying for Shannan Maria Gilbert” Facebook page:

smg page not hackett

Go ahead, go see what Jason Edwards linked in his obvious attempted to accuse Hackett of being a serial killer:

http://www.altitudemedicine.org/dr-peter-hackett/

I know I don’t have to point out to anyone here that the Dr. Peter Hackett in that link, the Dr. Hackett who is said to be a world-renowned high altitude expert and altitude research pioneer as well as former Rolling Stones physician is not the same Dr. Hackett who was neighbors with Flukeyou and involved in the LISK case. But I guess no one looking at the SMG FB could tell the difference, or if they did no one corrected it. I almost did, but I wanted to see if anyone else would, plus I don’t like posting there. I just wish it didn’t let so much misinformation out there in a place where people go to look for real information and pay respect to Shannan. I would hope those running the page know that is not the same Dr. Hackett. But closer look shows that the page is actually the only one to “LIKE” what Jason Edwards had to say. So I don’t know. Is this done on purpose? Again I ask, does anyone truly want to help solve this case? Because this does not help.

And how about the Dr. in Colorado? Does he deserve to be posted on the memorial of a murdered girl as a possible suspect just because he has the same name as the Oak Beach Doc? I would hope no one would think that was OK. And yet the comment and link still sit there almost a month later, uncorrected, unquestioned, and “LIKED” by the page.

Maybe Mr. Edwards really thinks the 2 Docs are the same (Can you imagine the 1 legged Dr. climbing mountains in Colorado?) or maybe he is just someone who likes to spread misinformation and confuse people on the internet (like most of my haters). It’s hard to tell anymore. This kind of stuff has been being put out there 3 years before I started writing about it all, and it still continues 3 years later.

So how can anyone get passed all the wrong info out there on this case… when everyone is so far from right?

The JBs Of LISK

I started this post a while back, after the news of John Bittrolff’s arrest. I found all the JBs floating around  the LISK case curious. I started to shy away from LISK related posts though, so this post and a few others were never finished or posted. I really wanted to just see where it was all going. The Bittrolff case keeps being pushed back, wonder if there’s good reason. But with other news finally coming to a real light, and the FBI finally getting involved in the LISK case (at least publicly) I thought I’d go back and touch up this post and actually post it:

Joseph Brewer:  Brewer was one of the last people to see Shannan Gilbert alive. He hired her through Craigslist, she spent hours at his house, leaving with him at some point, returning to Brewer’s home a short time later. Then after some confusion between Shannan, Brewer, and Shannan’s driver, Michael Pak, Shannan ran off, according to her panicked 911 call, afraid for her life.

All this alone would make Brewer a suspect in at least Shannan’s death, I would think. But he was ruled out as a suspect fairly quickly. Many find that puzzling, and I would have to agree. Besides the fact Shannan was hired by Brewer and ran from his house in fear, which I said was reason alone to keep him on the suspect list tell the case was actually solved, there are other things.

I’ve read mixed stories on Brewer both cooperating with LE and not being so cooperative. Which is correct, maybe they are both true. Maybe there are things he was not so cooperative about, and if so, again, why was he cleared so fast? He was definitely not very cooperative with Robert Kolker, the author of “Lost Girls”. In fact from my reading of the book, I got the feeling Brewer was trying to “yank” Kolker’s “chain”, I got the idea Kolker felt that way as well. Brewer tells Kolker he has information that could help, but he wants money from Kolker to explain further. Really? If he had information that could help shouldn’t he have already given it all to LE? I guess that depends on how cooperative he was.

In fact the only information he seems to have for LE or Kolker has to do with him and Shannan discussing if he runs into a lot of transsexuals when he orders up call girls online. Brewer has stated that when the subject of transsexuals came up, he started to wonder about Shannan and wanted her to leave.

All of that just doesn’t seem right to me. I don’t believe that is why Shannan ran from the house, none of what I have heard Brewer has said seems to make any sense. I’m guessing Kolker felt the same, because even though Brewer hinted that was the core to the case, Kolker did not seem to buy into it and did not spend a lot of time on Brewer’s strange transsexual link.

Which brings me back to LE. What did Brewer tell LE for them to take him off the suspect list so fast? They bought the whole transsexual discussion? There has to be more there, but from what I have seen, Brewer isn’t helping and therefore, still a suspect. Definitely suspicious.

There are lots of strange things that jump out when looking at Brewer, but the most damaging in my eyes is written in a book called “Confessions of The Oak Beach Drifter”. I own and have read this book whose author is named simply: W. When it comes to W and this book there are all sorts of things we could discuss (some even dealing with Dorothy and Cristin who both had quite a bit of contact with the author of “Confessions Of A Oak Beach Drifter”)  and maybe at a later time I will do a post dealing with this book in more detail. For now just a little back ground for those who don’t know much about it.

At some point it became public that there might have been someone staying with Brewer the night Shannan went running from his house. The news reports on this mysterious individual dubbed him a drifter and the name stuck. Some thought Hackett gave info to LE on this “Drifter” to take the heat off him, others thought it might have come from Flukeyou aka Joseph Scalise Jr. (another Oak Beach resident, but you all know Fluke) to help confuse the case even more. But after talking to the drifter myself, as well as reading different comments he has posted on the blogs and sites I’ve been to, and as I said, reading his book myself, it is clear that the Drifter believes it was Brewer who told police he (the Drifter) stayed with Brewer at the Oak Beach home. The drifter has also clearly stated that he had left the beach house before the night Shannan was there. How it was leaked to media or LE is not too important at this point, though if it was someone like Joey or Hackett, I guess it could be. Just makes sense Brewer brought up the drifter, so I’m gonna leave it at that, but as I said, this book brings up all sorts of things to be discussed.

The reason I’m bringing it up now is because of some of the things said about Brewer and the beach house by the book’s author.
In the book the author calls himself Vito (boy did Cristin and Dorothy chase that name around) the name given to Brewer is Damon. It should be noted that Damon (Brewer) is said to be someone Vito (Drifter) went to school with (“an old school buddy”) yet Damon doesn’t come into the Drifters book till page 256, chapter 59 in a book of 63 chapters. The book describes Damon (Brewer) as “a degenerate drug addict who ran into some money when his father passed away”.  Although the first 58 chapters is full of drug deals and busts, dealers and users, so it’s fair to say Vito’s circle of friends consisted entirely of the type of people Brewer is described to be. In fact the whole reason Vito and Damon get together after all these years is because Vito is hiding from drug dealers and Damon had a house on the beach Vito could stay at and hide out.

This drug dealer (who is named Mario in the book) is a main character in the book and Vito’s life from what it seems. You also learn that the reason Vito and Damon have a falling out (prompting Vito to move out of the beach house) is because Damon admits he might have let it slip out that Damon was staying with him and it got back to Mario. Mario is someone I’d love to talk about since the book states instead of coming to confront Vito once he knows where he is, he runs to Florida (they all run to Florida, don’t they?) But I don’t want to get to far off topic.

Bottom line, even though Brewer is mentioned late in the book, the book’s author definitely wants the reader to question Brewers involvement in all this. And it does seem most of it is put into the book as an afterthought. In other words the book was intended to be about Vito’s life which didn’t have much to do with Brewer, Oak Beach, or LISK. Then after what happened there (bodies found), the thought of what went on in Brewer’s beach house was questioned and brought up. There are talks of parties at the beach house and other questionable goings on there, just not part of the main story line. In fact Vito doesn’t write about anything special going on at the beach house in the chapter about him being there. he does though hint at things in the epilogue. But it is clear that drugs were a big part of Vito’s (Drifter) and  Damon’s (Brewer) life. Well that and the fact that “professional entertainment” was also a big part of it. The Drifter says all of this in his epilogue and even Brewer himself seems to admit it.

If you think about Brewer’s strange discussion of transsexuals with Shannan, Brewer is said to have said Shannan asked if he runs into transsexuals a lot. Implying to me at least that they discussed Brewer using a lot of hired “help”. I know that’s a lot of hearsay and he said she said, but sometimes that’s all we got in all of this to go by.

All I’m saying is both The Drifter and Brewer seem to admit that other call girls have been brought to that beach house and drug parties were definitely part of the scene.

All of this seems to me say that Joseph Brewer can not and should not be ruled out as a suspect, definitely he is still a POI!

The thing that really bothers me about all this, is the Drifter says he has never been questioned or approached by LE. That may have changed, but according to the last I read on it, the Drifter had yet to be questioned about any of this. According to the book he moved to Florida (like his dealer he once hid from in Oak Beach). Why wouldn’t LE want to question things written about in this book? From the tales of prostitutes and drugs to the main story of this bad guy called “Mario” who may have had reason to visit the beach house in Oak Beach.

Why wouldn’t police want to check out ALL stories surrounding Brewer and that house?

We’ll get to that question at the end of this post. We’ll have more facts to go on by then, I’m sure. But for now we have to head straight into rumor and internet speculations…

James Bissett III:

Bringing up this name generally gets 2 ideas from people.

A. Bissett is LISK, but for some reason LE does not want to go public with this information.

or

B. Bissett was going to be used as a scape goat by LE, but for some reason they couldn’t get it to stick.

Both ideas seem unlikely to me and I’ll get to my reasoning why, but as I said, when Bissett’s name is mentioned, these are the 2 most talked about ideas revolving around him.

For those who don’t know who Bissett is, he is an aquarium owner in Long Island who was found in what police called an apparent suicide not long after Shannan’s body was found.

When I first heard about Bissett I was told the whole thing was made up by Dorothy. (Dorothy actually says police killed Bissett and covered it up) Then it was hinted that Jen actually helped make the rumor of James Bissett so prominent on the internet. But the more I brought the name up, the more I started hearing a common thread. Quite a few people say that they heard from a LE friend that Bisssett was a strong suspect. I’ve been told it and I have read it, people with friends in LE claim they heard Bissett was indeed connected to LISK in some way.

So is Bissett just a rumor that the internet made larger than life, or is there something there about LE knowing more about the apparent suicide then they have let out.

The whole thing found its way into news articles:

http://archive.longislandpress.com/2012/12/16/gilgo-victims-families-frustrated-wonder-if-answers-will-ever-come/

Though most was discussed in comments like it is here:

http://www.topix.com/forum/county/suffolk-ny/TB5223F0NEOB01FV0/p18

There as well as other places you will find comments like these:

bissett comment

Oh those anonymous commenters.

It got so out of control that LE decided to issue a press release on the subject:

Investigators issue press release on Gilgo Internet rumors

(05/08/12) WOODBURY – Suffolk County District Attorney Thomas Spota and the Suffolk County Police Department issued a statement this afternoon in regard to recent rumors involving a possible suspect in the Gilgo Beach murders.

The statement reads as follows:

During the past few weeks we have received hundreds of questions from members of the media about the accuracy of rumors represented on various websites regarding the solving of what is commonly referred to by the media as the Gilgo Beach murder case.

The solving of these murders has been, and will remain, a top priority for the Suffolk County Police Department and the Suffolk County District Attorney’s office. All necessary law enforcement resources are being devoted to solving this case.

As with any active investigation, the Suffolk County Police Department and the district attorney’s office should not and will not comment on who may or may not be a suspect.

Additionally, as far as updates on this investigation are concerned, neither agency will comment further at this time until we have some additional information pertaining to the investigation that serves the public or the investigation by its release.

Unfounded, anonymous internet postings or rumors about who may be a suspect should be given the appropriate weight they deserve by those who read them. It should be remembered that this type of unsubstantiated “gossip” can cause substantial harm and emotional trauma, not only to the members of the families mentioned on the internet postings, but also to the families of the victims.

While we are confident that this long, complicated, difficult investigation will eventually be brought to a successful conclusion, it will be the facts and evidence that will lead us to this conclusion and not internet rumors. “

Bissett isn’t mentioned in the statement, but from all I’ve seen it was posted because of all the rumors surrounding Bissett.

I’m still not sure what if anything Bissett’s death has to do with LISK, all I’m saying is to this day it is still discussed as if there is some kind of connection there.  Although I find it hard to see real connections. If LE had some legitimate information on Bissett’s involvement, it would have been looked into and something more would have been made public. And if LE wanted to pin it on Bissett (Dorothy’s idea that Bissett was a fall guy), then why didn’t they?

So unless there is some reason to believe LE had some reason to not solve the LISK case a Bissett connection seems very unlikely. Is there some reason? Will get there, not yet though… we have another JB that definitely seems to fit in to all this somehow…

John Bittrolff:

Now here’s a JB that actually seems to be leading somewhere. In fact he even has his own wiki article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bittrolff

I’m not going to say too much about Bittrolff (waiting and hoping something will come out of his arrest though) but it was quite the story how LE actually caught their suspect:

http://pix11.com/2014/07/22/manorville-man-arrested-in-two-cold-case-murders-of-women-police/

Like an episode of CSI right there. Did you read the comments? Did you see Nan Nan? I keep telling everyone how important comments are.

Alright, so LE may have their guy when it comes to at least 2 murders. Is he connected to the 3rd as LE believes? Maybe even connected to the GB4 or the many other bodies found along Long Island beaches and highways. Not according to LE, but as you may already realized, this post is getting to why maybe what has been said by LE is not to be accepted as facts without question any longer (which some have said all along).

Before we finally get to the JB that brings all of that into question I want to leave this JB with a couple of  rumors, that if true make Bittrolff seem more involved than LE has said.

First is the connection between one of Bittrolff’s believed victims and one of LISK’s known victims. Many probably have heard about an online comment posted by a young woman named Amanda Beinlich several years ago. Turns out her mother, Rita Tangredi, was one of Bittrolff’s alleged victims in 1993. Her best friend was Melissa Barthelemy, the first woman discovered in burlap on Gilgo Beach in December 2010.

Here’s an article I found it mentioned in:

http://pix11.com/2015/03/17/from-gilgo-beach-to-atlantic-city-a-serial-killer-by-the-sea/

It is also mentioned in this thread:

http://www.officialcoldcaseinvestigations.com/showthread.php?13491-L-I-S-K/page8

I actually first read of it on Websleuths, but you know I’m not allowed to post their stuff here. LOL.

It’s things like this that make me scratch my head. Is this just another internet feed rumor or was Rita Tangredi the mother of Melissa Barthelemy’s best friend?

Everything I have read about such a connection comes from a comment supposedly left on the internet by Amanda Beinlich. I have yet to come across anything to substantiate any of it.

Can’t police or FBI look into this Amanda and see first if she’s real and then second, if what she wrote in that comment is true? Why wouldn’t a reporter go chasing this story? Wouldn’t an interview with Amanda Beinlich be a good catch? There are far too many stories in all of this that seem to be easily corrected as false or sought out for possible important information. And yet none of it is.

Would you believe I even heard a rumor that Bittrolff worked on at least one property at Oak Beach and knew at least some one there? It’s true. Someone has placed Bittrolff in Oak Beach and has said he knew people there.

If any of this stuff is true and if Bittrolff is found to have murdered Colleen McNamee and Rita Tangredi, then how can he be so easily dismissed as a LISK suspect?

There has been lots of talk about corruption in LE where the LISK case is involved. There’s also been talk that LE is holding back information not wanting some things leaked and therefore jeopardizing the case. So has LE of Suffolk County been misleading the public about the LISK case? That answer seems to have been answered to some degree. From the beginning I saw reason to believe both LE might be keeping things close not wanting to give out too much of what they might know as well as the fact something seemed dirty. Something was just not right. We all know now that leads right to another JB, maybe the most important one…

James Burke:

The first time seeing this name was in the early emails I got from Dorothy Price Hill. Being on the west coast I did not know who he was.  That quickly changed. Following Dorothy over the internet the past few years I saw several anti Burke comments, “I Hate Burke” sites on social media, etc. James Burke was Suffolk County’s chief of police and not liked very much. I say was, because as anyone who reads here should already know, Burke resigned:

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/suffolk-police-chief-james-burke-resigns-amid-continuing-federal-probe-1.11016791

Although this happened only recently, when it comes to LISK discussions, it’s been a hot topic for a while.

Not long after Dorothy started bringing up Burke to me, someone told me about a guy named Pete who they believed Dorothy was getting her information on Burke from. Well I knew of this Pete guy, Dorothy mentioned him quite a bit, I believe she said he was a cop.

After finally going to Websleuths I saw some of the things Pete had to say on Burke. I also saw a lot on Burke from a commenter named hawksaw. In fact with the latest news on Burke (we are getting there finally) hawksaw has been commenting quite a bit about the ex chief of police. I hope I don’t get in trouble for mentioning this, I know how it’s not allowed to post things from Websleuths in other places (and if I didn’t know, Jen went out of her way to point this out to me), but all I’m saying about it is both Pete and hawksaw seemed to have good information and good insight because the things they have said are finally coming to light.

Again, being from the west coast, it was not easy understanding a straight connection from Burke to LISK though, and really it was only Dorothy going so far as to directly connect him. Saying Burke knew both Brewer and her ex husband. but she also said I knew Brewer and her ex husband, and I knew that was crazy talk, so it was hard to take anything about Burke seriously.

Still, I saw others talking about him and some people sent me links on him and there seemed to be a story about someone stealing a porno/sex tape out of Burke’s car. I even saw where the tape was said to have had one of the LISK victims on it. That definitely would link Burke to the case directly. But I saw this in a Dorothy emails and comments, not sure if I saw any one else mention it other than her at first, plus when I was reading all these things and trying to understand them I came across this:

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/suffolk-police-report-as-sergeant-chief-james-burke-twice-lost-gun-1.6283153

Was there a sex tape? Or was is about a stolen gun? I really didn’t know what to make about all the things being said about Burke. But more and more came out over the last few years and finally the damn broke:

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/crime/james-burke-former-suffolk-police-chief-of-department-arrested-1.11208592

http://nypost.com/2015/12/09/police-chief-beat-junkie-who-stole-his-porn-sex-toys-court-papers/

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/suffolk-police-chief-arrested-alleged-assault-article-1.2460203

So there was a tape and sex toys? Yes, all the rumors were now being confirmed. And as Linda said, more was coming:

http://pix11.com/2015/12/10/fbi-to-have-enhanced-role-in-long-unsolved-gilgo-murders-potential-witness-asks-what-took-so-long/

Burke arrested and the FBI are finally involved in the LISK case? And then:

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/james-burke-ex-suffolk-police-chief-denied-bail-friday-1.11217569

And then:

http://nypost.com/2015/12/12/busted-ex-police-chief-blocked-fbi-probe-of-gilgo-beach-murders/

Wow, that all came down fast. Leaving some to wonder once again, is there a connection between Burke and the LISK. Did Burke for some reason not want the case solved? Well at the very least, FBI is saying Burke kept them out the case. Most likely because he didn’t want them to have access to his dirty laundry. But as I finish up this post I can’t help but wonder what this can of worms is gonna bring to light. I mean sex tapes and beating up hand cuffed junkies. It seems like a lot on all sides of this. And there is sure to be a lot more to come out.

No matter where it all leads at least the FBI are taking a close look at the LISK case and will be looking at all the JBs and everything else needed to get the answers wanted by so many.

 

 

 

Flukeyou And Catching LISK

Alright, I’m not quite ready to jump back into all of that yet. We got a national holiday to celebrate, and I think any constant reader (sorry King, but it fits so well here) knows I’m all about the celebration. “I thought I told ya, I came to party”. LOL. Inside joke you’ll all get one day.

So we’ll see if Fluke returns (I think he’s on vacation right now, I really do hope someone keeps track of all the times and dates of where he goes all the time, you know, just in case).

There is so much I want to post from the “Catching LISK” blog and I know it will upset people on both sides of things if I do. But Fluke made me go back there with his paste and post comment here and his stuck in moderation comment there. By the way “Catching LISK” was removed by its author back in 2013, I’m not sure when it went back up but it’s been a while, and until Joey tried to post this comment last month :

fu on catching lisk 6 17 2015

No one had tried to comment there. Joey was the first. Then a short time later, this comment was put up (again, not put through though because this blog is dead, I hope people get that, no comments will ever be going through on that blog, it’s all crap, and really should be down, but for educational purposes, some of us think it should be up) Where was I? Oh yea, this comment:

Mariah Heevner

Let me explain why this comment is so funny. They are criticizing MM7 and is being quite mean, lol, but then they praise Joey, not realizing Joey and MM7 were working together through out the writing of this blog, I know this because of the taped phone calls, lol. It seems that Mariah may know the Scalise’s and does live near Flukey. Hmmm… well, I will say this, Mariah’s comment amuses me to no end.

My point? What was my point? Oh yea, after all this time, the first 2 comments on the now dead blog “Catching LISK” are very interesting in a few ways. and I’m wondering what that third comment will be like… there is always 3. But there is no need, the blog is dead and only up to read and learn from. No comments, agenda or otherwise, will ever make it through again (I hope).

And as I said, I’m not ready to just jumps right back into “Catching LISK”, but it is obvious that posts like these will always be a part of this blog.

That is unless you all want to come clean…

Anyone?

Zero Interviews

I know we are only half way through this second year of Zero’s World, but I’m already looking to the next year. In case anyone else is interested in what is in the future for Zero’s World, expect a lot more religion and politics, after all it is an election year. Yes, this place will be getting on the campaign trail with #2016ElectionCoverage. Which, let’s face it, the campaign trail has already started, hence me mentioning it now so we aren’t playing catch up later on. So expect Zero’s World 2016 hashtag ongoing storyline (you guys get what that is right, like when X-Files had different MOTW (monsters of the week) but the ongoing storyline was aliens and Mulder’s chase to find out what happened to his sister, that’s what my hashtags are each year, an ongoing storyline for the season, by the way did you hear that they are bringing X-Files back?!? That’s 2 of my all time favorite shows now coming back, life is good) to come early. Wait a second, was that a parenthesis in a parenthesis? Why do you guys let me get away with that stuff.

Anyways, #WorldsCollide is still in effect and colliding at a sometimes, hourly rate. I want to clear up some posts in the closet (some have been in there, way too long) and give some kind of closure to some of the things I brought up this year (Quiet Pills and other fun stuff) plus I really want to try something different. Something I have talked with some of you out there about before.

I want to do some interviews. (Meaning, I want to interview people, not that I want to be interviewed) With whom, you may ask, well just about anyone this blog has been about or affected in any way. Readers, commenters, and of course the subjects.

Here’s a list of some of the top people I would like to interview:

Joey “Flukeyou” Scalise

Doctor Hackett

The Drifter

Joseph Brewer

Pak

Truthspider

The Facebook John/Jane Doe Guy (where’d ya go?)

Fielnotes (a real interview, not a made up one)

MM7

Jen

Nancy and any of her friends or relatives or ex

DPH and any of her friends or relatives or exes

NERD

AMD

PS149

Murt

Anyone at Radionewz

and the list goes on…

I know what you are thinking, why would anyone do an interview with you? Good question, and honestly I don’t know if anyone would. But I think I would be a good interviewer and would like to try it. I’d be down with a Skype interview,or a phone interview, or even a  Facebook or Twitter one, in fact I think a Twitter interview would be a neat idea.

And I’m not looking to expose people who have done a good job of staying anonymous, so any Websleuther or old LISK.com reader, you are on the list and you don’t have to use anything other than your known screen name (yes NERD that goes for you too!)

Just a thought, don’t know if it will go anywhere, but I’d really like to do this, so hit me up if anyone is game. Private message me at Zero’s World Facebook or Email me at zerodinh@rocketmail.com.