Dorothy left that on one of her new internet stomping grounds Americans For Trump: https://www.facebook.com/groups/americansfortrump/?fref=nf
And there’s more… oh yes, there are more. But first I need to pull the curtain back on the blog for a second to explain how things work behind the scenes of what gets written here.
I know it may seem like I’m constantly stalking Dorothy to see what she’s writing about me. Dorothy definitely sees it this way. She tells everyone who will listen that I’m stalking her. The truth of course is just the opposite, she stalks everything I write… I’ve proven that time and time again (and I am about to prove it one more time). But still I know people must wonder how I keep up with her everywhere. I will admit that back when this first started, back when Dorothy, Cristin, Jen, Nerd, & Flukeyou were wrapped up in their twisted games, back when Dorothy got Nancy to post my name all over the internet, back when trolling screen names were everywhere I chased it all the time. Putting each of their names in my google search to see what they were saying and what they had said. I spent hours and hours, days and nights looking into all of them.
But that’s not how it works now. I just don’t have the time to chase the same old shit over and over for hours on end. I mean I think if anything, this blog shows, not much has changed over the years in what Dorothy or Joey have said. I mean yes they tweek their stories from time to time, and Dorothy loves to add new characters to her stories (yours truly being one of them), but mostly, it’s the same crap over and over.
It’s not that I don’t still go chasing from time to time, it’s just this blog really took a step off the public posts and into private chats and discussions. I’ve talked about this before. Off blog I have met some great people and have serious discussions about the things being said out there. And it isn’t uncommon for someone to write me and let me know they came across Dorothy mentioning me or the blog.
And this is exactly what happened when it comes to these Trump page rants. I checked my messages on the ZW FB : and someone gave me the heads up:
There was a link to the Trump page (linked above) where I found these little nuggets:
You are reading that right. Dorothy wants to blame me for “planting” some internet story on Trump. Jesus Christ… the last thing I need right now is to get into it with some Trumptards. Ugh! That probably won’t help me much there. I have to point out Dorothy calls herself “a witness in the Gilgo case”. Damn, she just never stops. My favorite part is after the many comments over the last 3 years where she has said she has given all my info to Police, Detectives, and FBI… she now wants to sick the DOJ on me. You can’t see or hear it, but I am cracking up… a literal LMFAO moment. If only they can “trace the IP addresses”, damn, that’s good.
Is there more? Of course there is. But first once again, let’s pull that curtain back. This is gonna stray a little, but hang in there, we will be returning to Dot and Trump.
While I was gathering screen shots for this post, I received a message from another reader about Dorothy:
I clicked on the link and was surprised (somewhat pleasantly) to see someone had mentioned my blog there. But it wasn’t anything to do with Dorothy. As far as I know any way. Someone on the thread (and you can go to it and see it for yourself on page 10) mentioned a comment left on my LISK.com blog back in February by TAL. Some of you long time readers probably remember it. But for those who don’t, here it is (just as the person who posted this in the thread above warned, it is kinda long):
There was also a second comment left on my old LISK blog from TAL:
I can understand why the person from the Crime Watchers thread would find this comment interesting. Many people did. And even though we are straying heavily from Dorothy and The Trump Page (I promise we will get back there), I can’t help it, you know how it works, the posts go where the posts go sometimes. I went to this Crime Watchers thread expecting to find something new from Dorothy and they were talking about the TAL comment. That’s how it works sometimes. And just to sort out any confusion (or create more), it’s understandable that the above comments left by TAL would make my readers think of Dorothy. These types of stories are all over the internet and have been circling for years. I can tell you first hand that a lot of these stories come right back to Jen (story of a friend who was told by a foreign woman that she was married to LISK), Cristin (story of Dr. Hackett being an internet stalker), Dorothy (story of ex-husband being LISK), Candyce (the many stories of being choked, drugged, and abducted, yea most of those come from her), and Fluke Scalise Jr. (stories of parties at Brewer’s and a group of Oak Beach neighbors covering up for Dr. Hackett). Yes, there are lots of stories that when chased back, lead you to this group of… what’s a good word here? I call them crazy and nuts all the time, but really it’s worse than that. This is a group of really fucked up people and not one word is bad enough to explain what they are (Stick that in your pipe and smoke it). But there others out there, with their own cryptic stories all claiming the cops won’t listen to them or that they are afraid to go to the cops. Are any of them real? Good question. One we are gonna dive into using TAL as an example, sorry TAL.
When you read the comments on my blog left by TAL 3 questions arise. Who is TAL? Why, after all these years, did he choose to tell his story on my old LISK.com blog? Is what he wrote real? All fair questions. Let’s start with the first one.
After these comments appeared on my old blog I wrote an Email to them. They seemed to be someone who had just found my old blog (but I get that a lot as long time readers know. And some are new readers, but some are new screen names from old “friends”). Still I looked into who they might be… it wasn’t hard to figure out. In fact anyone paying attention would have seen it all out there (almost like clues to be found):
Yep, right there on the Praying For Shannan Maria Gilbert FB page, in between Dorothy Dog Shit, is a very similar story. OK, the same story. So TAL is Tom LaSala. See easy if you were paying attention. I have to admit, Tom chosing to tell his story mixed in with Dorothy’s rant is questionable. Maybe my reader is right and Dorothy is connected to this somehow. We all know Dorothy goes on and on about James Burke being involved in the LISK murders. Of course most of that comes from her detective friend Peter F. (saw him on TV the other night, not at all what I expected). He has been obsessed with Burke long before the Gilgo Beach bodies were found. Hey Pete, you might have noticed I have been mentioning you a lot lately in comments and posts… that’s called foreshadowing). Still just because Tom LaSall’s story involves James Burke doesn’t mean Dorothy or Petey have anything to do with it. Though it doesn’t mean they don’t. But to be fair, with Burke’s current place of residence, everyone is starting to question just how deep does his corruptness go? I’m not any where ready to say Burke is a serial killer and Long Island LE and government officials were/are willing to cover it up for him, but it’s obvious they didn’t want FBI or anyone else poking arround in their affairs. Alright we are way off track. gotta start pulling this back.
I spoke to Tom via a few e-mails and he seemed like a nice guy. Which is why I never put all this out in a post like this. But there were things that bothered me about him as well. And I guess, bottom line, that is why it’s coming out now, well that and the fact others are discussing it on the Crime Watchers thread an a reader asked me to try to help clear it up. So I’m trying.
My biggest issue was that he came to my blog with it in the first place. Don’t get me wrong, I am happy for anyone who takes the time to comment on any of my blogs, and to drop such a colorful story, well I am thankful. But my blog is known to chase after the crazy stories and hearsay out there. It focuses on disproving and calling out the so-called nuts. So yea, not the place to start I would think.
Then to write the story again under your Facebook account in between Dorothy comments. Again, not the best way to be taken seriously. Still, like I said, he seemed like a nice guy and I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt and not seem like I attack everyone who comes to my blog… I know it feels like that sometimes. I get it Dorothy, I really do.
What really got to me is the vanishing act.So many come here, blurt stuff out and are gone. I don’t trust that. Stay a while, get to know the place. Those hit and runs are way to Fluke like, and when people do it, they lose all credibility with me. I mean, Tom drops this bomb shell and doesn’t come back to answer any comments from others. Hit and run. Even stranger than that, was at this time, there was a reporter/writer going around wanting to talk to anyone who felt they had info on the LISK case. He was writing an article for Honeysuckle Magazine. He had been on my blogs and seen the TAL comment and wrote TAL an e-mail (you can see in the comment, that TAL made a “unique” e-mail just for the comment calling himself a “LISK witness”). Now when TAL/Tom wrote his comment, leaving that e-mail, he must have expected people to write him. And here was someone doing a story on LISK, the perfect chance for Tom to get what he said happened out there after all these years (yea waiting 6 years to tell his story, made me also wonder about Tom. It’s the second question from above: Why wait so long to tell his story? Maybe he was afraid of cops like he said. Maybe the recent arrest of Burke made Tom remember that night. But to me waiting for 6 years just doesn’t add up). You would think Tom would have jumped at the chance to talk to the reporter. Nope. The reporter wrote me telling me that he saw the comment and wrote the guy (Tom) but he didn’t want to talk to him (reporter). This puzzled us both and since I was sharing e-mails with Tom at the time I asked him why. He told me I was the only one he trusted at the moment. Strange, but I have to admit it felt nice to read. In fact Tom praised me and my blog quite a bit and said other than my blog and the Shannan page, he didn’t think he would put his story up anyplace else, Again, it felt nice to read such praise, but it also felt like a snow job (winter pun intended). I mean he was telling me how I’m the only one discussing the LISK case that he trusted and how cool he thought I was, but come on, why? And if you really thought I was so cool and my blog was the best place out there on this (the first part is true I guess, but my blogs are far from the best out there on any subject other than Fluke and Dorothy) , I mean if Tom really felt that way, so strong, that he wasn’t gonna tell his story any other place… where’d he go? Why not stay at the one place he felt worthy of getting this off his chest (after 6 long years), stick around and stand by what you wrote? Yea, I just don’t know if I buy it.
Which brings us to the third question on TAL‘s comment (we covered enough of the second one about why he waited so long to tell his tale in parentheses, right?) This is the main question, yes? Is what TAL wrote real? Did it happen? There are just to many questions for me to believe it happened. Doesn’t mean it didn’t, but in the end I just don’t think so. Tom seemed like a nice guy, but there are just to many strange things about him and his actions that I just can’t get my head around. For a third time in this post I apologise Tom. And I tell you, as I did in our e-mails, if what you wrote in those comments really happened, and you think you saw something back in 2010 that is related to the LISK case, if James Burke himself really came out by himself to question you about what you saw… there are people who you can go to. Go to the FBI, go to the press. Right now people are talking about these cases again. Burke’s arrest has sparked new reasons for answers. So if you really believe you are a “LISK Witness”, you should stop at nothing to get the truth out there.
I’ve said this to everyone, even Dorothy at one time. But I’ve also said to everyone (Dorothy all the time), don’t spread rumors and outright lies that fit your own agenda or crazy delusion. And if TAL would have stuck around, maybe we’d have a better idea of where he really stands in all this. But he didn’t. No updating e-mails and he never returned to the comments. Now this could be my fault, I haven’t tried to send any new e-mails or messages through FB. Which brings us back to this post’s running theme, I just don’t have the time to chase down things that don’t lead anywhere but endless circles.
To take it one step further (a step too far probably), it wasn’t just the comment I was unsure of. Even though I say again, Tom seemed like a nice guy in our e-mails, the few things I did find on him made him a new strange character in the LISK Onion. You see Tom is in a Long Island local band called Electric Caves. And he writes a blog. One post in particular caught my eye:
Smells like MK ULTRA
Wow Bob Wow! Am I right? TAL sure can write. I know where he is getting a lot of that, but man he put it all together so beautifully, it almost seems plausible (for those who didn’t take the time to read the whole post, I understand, but man you missed out).
Alright, take it for what’s there. I could go deeper into my thoughts on it all, but it’s better you all come to your own conclusion. I never got into all this back in February and maybe I should have. The whole thing was strange, and I’ve seen plenty of strange since I started writing these blogs. Again it may all be crap and I should have just left it alone, or maybe TAL is a witness like he claims and his story of Burke needs to be looked into by proper authorities, or maybe there is some place in between where most things lie.
I’ve spent enough time on this. In the end I didn’t know what to think of TAL‘s tale or TAL himself. I hope he has gone to the proper authorities if what he says did indeed happen, and he feels he saw something that could help the Gilgo Beach case. That’s on him. I welcome him back anytime if he has more to add. I want to thank my reader for bringing this all to my attention. I’d also like to thank Sabra for not only reading my blogs and the comments (the comments are the best part), but for posting a link to the Crime Watchers thread. I hope you and any others who find their way here from the thread stay and read. Feel free to comment too, I swear they don’t all end up in posts like this. But it seemed the time to deal with this comment and I thank all of you who helped it come about. I still leave it on each of you to decide whether this is something worth discussing or to leave it alone. I hope this helps with that decision in someway.
Now back to Dorothy and Trump. When we last left off, Dorothy was reporting me to the DOJ (see little twists, but the same old shit). From there she got quite nasty:
If anyone out there still reading can’t see why I continue to write posts like these, well, look at my inspiration. She say’s I “claim to be a minister just like gang bang Nate Parker does”. WTF?!? What kind of stretch is that to get her delusions across? Remember it, because it’s gonna come up again in a minute. She calls me a drug addict, not true. She says I’m connected to parties at Joseph Brewer’s house, also not true. She wrote that I claim to have grown up in Cali, raised by a single mom, my friend’s mom was killed by a serial killer, that I have 7 kids, first one born when I was 16 or 17 (a week before my 17th birthday, to be exact). It is true I have said all that before, not all in one place, but yes I have “claimed” all this, and more importantly, it’s all true. And fuck you Dorothy for trying to throw in some of my personal stuff, especially my Mom, friends, and kids. You should know by now how that get’s to me, and well, here we are with another long post (over 3 thousand words right now) that didn’t have to be if you could just curb your school girl crush on me. You see, I was reading all these new things you (Dorothy) were writing about me to my wife. She couldn’t believe your obsession was still so strong with me (see, she’s smart enough to see how things really are). She said, ” You should write a post and call it ‘Still Crushing'”. I thought it was a great idea. Thanks Sassy!
Best part was when she says I use a voice-changer device to sound African-American. Damn, she worries a lot about me sounding “African-American”. That to will come up again in the next part.
Dorothy ended her “zero rant” on Americans For Trump with this:
Which is where this post began. I could end it here, by saying something like:
No Dorothy, the Feds have not arrested me, and unfortunately for you the blog still goes on… for at least a little longer.
But there is something more important that needs to be said here. Because, to be honest, and I usually am, I can care less what Dorothy writes about me on a Trump page. It’s kind of ingenious in a way, get me waisting (spelled wrong) my time with people who I clearly will clash with. I doubt Dorothy put that much thought in it though. She’s the type of delusional individual who would support Trump and I’m guessing, Americans For Trump is just another place she goes. And everywhere she goes she has to mention me. The problem is that she doesn’t just go to places like Americans For Trump, she goes to places like Shannan Gilbert’s FB Memorial page or other open cases out on social media hoping for prayers and helpful tips and instead getting Dorothy.
I recently posted about one of these places that Dorothy has now attached herself to:
This is a page on Facebook set up to help find a missing person, and as I posted before, Dorothy declared war on my blog in the comments of this site:
Yes, this is where Dorothy is just beyond fucked up and shows just how far she’s willing to go to stalk me (like that Dorothy, I added that sentence just for you). Screwing with another open case, messing with people who are hurt and hoping for answers, and she uses me and my blogs to do it. Yes, beyond fucked up. And she wrote more since then. But before we get to that and end this post (I know it’s a long one, thank you for sticking with it), we are going to pull back the curtain for a third time:
I did not find the “Help Find Missing Jennifer Kesse” page on my own. Again someone sent me a message:
Someone on the Jennifer Kesse page had seen Dorothy’s comments, Googled her name and found my blog. She was worried enough about Dorothy’s sudden interest and unusual tactics that she took a chance and contacted me on Facebook to tell me about it:
I of course told her just how crazy I thought Dorothy was. I told her that it wouldn’t be long before Dorothy wrote about me and sure enough this new reader soon would write me to tell me about the “war declaration” Dorothy left on the page. I couldn’t help it I had to write a post, not just to defend myself. not just because I wanted to try to help the page see the trouble of letting Dorothy continue there, but because this new reader had written me and asked for my help. She felt helpless in stopping Dorothy:
So yes I wrote a post:
Did it help? I think most of us know the answer to that. A few people on the page said they were gonna block her after reading my post, but if you go there you will see Dorothy is all over it still, and many people are discussing things with her (Dorothy) like she really knows what she is talking about. This could be because that page is plagued with all sorts of people even nuttier sounding than Dorothy. Crazy psychics feuding over what they can and can’t prove. I feel sorry for the people running the page, I know this is not the intentions they made it for. But there is not much more I can do about it. I wrote a post explaining it all and Dorothy is still allowed to make comments like this:
There she is, bringing up Nate Parker again (I haven’t googled it yet, and I’m guessing he’s not a nice guy). Saying that I sound African-American, AGAIN. And ONCE AGAIN telling the internet how I attacked her “relentlessly”. This post will be seen as an attack as well, I’m sure. But I just am trying to show you all how dangerous getting involved with Dorothy can be. And this comment should hit it all the way home:
Damn, Cristin, Dorothy brings you up more than I do. Most of us know Dorothy is talking about Danny Boy, MM7’s husband. Most also know MM7 worked quite a bit with Dorothy at one time. And yes Cristin (MM7), Dorothy is mentioning you on a missing persons page, saying you might “sing” to the feds about you ex-husband. I’m sure both you (Cristin) and your friendly, ex-husband love how she (Dorothy) carelessly threw out the phrase “sex trafficking”.
I swear to you, this is where this post would have ended, should have ended (It’s longer than most short stories). But when I sat down to write it the other day I realized I had some new private messages from Dorothy. Yep, while I was planning this post, Dorothy, out of the blue sends me a message. That’s just how it works sometimes. Dorothy still sends me private messages on Facebook from time to time, though I haven’t answered her there for years. Here was another I wasn’t gonna reply to:
Damn, that is a good question though. Way to deep to get into now. You don’t want to have to read another four thousand words or so on why we all wear masks to hide our true selves. Yea I didn’t think so. But I did like the timing of this message, it was right after I posted a “voting selfie” on Facebook and Twitter:
Yep, I was wearing a mask. But that mask is a inside joke, well more of a running gag. Glad to know that you are still watching my every move Dorothy. It sets you up for a very big fall when I finally bring an end to this all.You’ll see.
I got another private message from Dorothy soon after that one, this one a little more to the point:
There ya go Cristin, man I hope you are reading all of this. One more time Dorothy writes about some snuff video I embedded somewhere. And you Cristin, found it, do I have that right? Please, one of you crazy ladies put an end to this lie. Something if true, you should be able to prove easily enough. But it’s not, just more dangerous lies Dorothy is allowed to say over and over again. And some of you listen to her. How bright you all are. Sorry if that sounds arrogant. But I told ya, working with Dorothy is not wise.
And that’s where we will end this post.