The Truth About The CCC Part 3

If you read part 2 of this CCC trilogy, you know you were supposed to forget all about part 1. So you probably forgot about DPH and MM7 looking into UG and CCC and coming out with tales of Hackett and Dorothy’s ex husband. Tales of how Hackett and Dorothy’s ex were part of The CCC as well as playing some copy cat murder game against each other over some jealousy thing. You also probably forgot about all the screen names claiming to be part of The CCC coming to my blog and giving me no choice but to look deeper into UG and The CCC. And that’s good that you don’t remember any of that. It’s not needed to see the truth about The CCC. You can read part 2 and go away with what is FACT and can be proven by their own posts and comments on Utopia Guide.

So if you are happy with that, I suggest you skip the rest of this post.

You see the more you look into The CCC and UG, the more you start to question this “harmless” group of “hobbyist”. If you have decided to continue reading, you might want to remember the 1st post again. I know, I told you to forget it and you needed to forget it for part 2, but part 1 and 2 are both needed for part 3. All 3 parts will show how the mythology of The CCC grew and spread.

And just for the record, I’m not saying anyone from The CCC is LISK or that any of them are guilty of criminal activity, well other that the obvious. Again, these are things others who have looked at UG and The CCC have said and passed around. I was not the first to look into this and I’m sure I wont be the last. What I came up with is in part 2. The solid stuff that really don’t show much, other than the Morrie guy is stuck in the middle somewhere. Still there is so much out there that (like everything else) don’t add up. Here we go.

Wait false start, first I have to mention Shady Al’s.

magic ccc lingere bar

Since I am not an LI Native (heh heh) please bear with me. When I first read that The CCC hung out in a bar called “Shady” I lost it. Any long time readers will totally get this. It’s an Eminem thing. And most may wonder why I even mention it. Trust me, it’s not just for a silly Eminem joke. Though, I can’t help it, I find it funny. But this blog always looks at things with multiple eyes (because it is read with multiple eyes), and some of you know who started posting Eminem lyrics before I came along (and it wasn’t Fluke like some might believe). I’ve mentioned it before and will again, there will be a last Eminem post before we are done, for those who still don’t get why this sometimes seems like an Eminem tribute blog.

Oh, I strayed quite a bit, or did I. Let’s wait and see.

Other than the fact this Morrie guy was involved in threatening comments about Amber right before she went missing, there is no connection between those in The CCC and the Gilgo Beach Murders. And yet there are those out there who claim if we knew who some of The CCC members were, there might be more of a connection than Morrie’s baseball bat threats. In part 1 I already talked about MM7 and DPH saying Hackett was Magic from The CCC. I also showed in part 1, that that was highly unlikely, since Magic was said to have died in 2010. MM7 and DPH had also said Brewer was part of The CCC:

mm7 brewer is lw

The thought of Brewer being part of The CCC is definitely intriguing. But going by the things “lightweight” has said about himself, I’m not too sure he is Brewer:

wolf lightweight on families

Married with 3 kids in 2008. Yea, that’s not Brewer. There was also talk of Flukeyou being in the CCC with Brewer. That may come from comments like these:

lightweight to wolf rusian girl

But just because one of the CCC members has a thing for Russian girls does not make it Fluke. In fact the same reasons lightweight isn’t Brewer is the same reason it can’t be Fluke. And as I said in part 1, I looked into Wolf5958 (simple google search you all can do) and he ain’t Flukeyou either.

So there seems to be no real proof Brewer or Fluke were part of The CCC… but there is more talk about such proof, well at least when it comes to Brewer:

ws jb ccc

There are other posts like this on Websleuths where it is claimed that Brewer told people he was part of The CCC. But again, no actual proof that I can see. Still the thought that Brewer may be part of The CCC is intriguing. I said that. But is it true?

See how this could quickly became another tale (tail) being chased around in circles. Let me add to it.

magic dead 1 15 2010

Yes, back to Magic. There is something about this (other than the screen name “deadguy”) that bothers me. “I got the news from SCPD”. What is that all about? Why would SCPD inform someone on UG about the death of another person on UG? Is “deadguy” friends with the cop who told him about Magic? Is the cop a member on UG? I don’t mean to confuse it any further… but it just bothers me.

Maybe this post isn’t a good idea. Maybe I should stop why I’m ahead. But you all read the comment on part 1 from Emily:

emily on ccc

This has to be addressed. First off I don’t buy it. I believe the person who left this comment wants me to believe they are this person:

real emily

And as I said, I don’t buy it, for one second. My LISK blog received bogus comments like this back when I first brought up The CCC, but we will get to all that. There’s a lot we can dissect in the comment on UG by the real Emily. But what I really take away from it, was that she is saying MM7 contacted her about all this, claiming she was an “investigative reporter”. And Emily didn’t like it. Damn, she probably won’t like being part of another WordPress blog, I’m sorry Emily, but don’t blame me, blame the “Emily” who left the comment on Part 1. Assuming it wasn’t you, and as I said, I don’t believe it was. I will get to who I think it is. Patience.

So this “Emily” (the one who commented on part 1) really wants to express that “she” knows most of the guys at UG and they are “NICE” men. We may have a difference of opinion of what is “NICE”. I have read plenty at UG and “NICE” isn’t the word I would use. But let’s just look at what was being said there about the LISK case:

UG on lisk.JPG

” it’s getting interesting”, “I hope everyone has their nose clean”. If they were such “NICE” men, they wouldn’t need to worry about “clean” noses, no?

ug magic not dead

When someone brings up coming forward with information lightweight brings up Seeker. The lol tells us it’s a joke, but since I have done some reading there, it’s not very funny. They also brought up Magic. Another joke, I suppose. I definitely don’t think this means Magic isn’t really dead, but I bet those who wanted to believe Magic was Hackett read this that way. The truth is, some of those at UG loved to poke at Magic. There was some real hatred towards Magic from some of them. Mainly from Lightweight and Teps. They would play these story games on UG where each person would continue the story being told with each new comment, and lightweight just couldn’t help bringing Magic into each one:

lightweight magic dis1

lightweight magic dis2

lightweight magic dis3

lightweight magic dis4

lightweight magic dis5

lightweight magic dis6

That may be hard for some of you to understand what you are reading there. First off you have to read from bottom to top. Anyone who has read at UG knows how confusing that can get. Second, it’s not whole stories, just parts of different ones where lightweight felt the need to bring Magic into it. As you can see by the small portions, you probably don’t want to read their little story games anyways.

How many of you find UG’s story games similar to the types of games played at the “Drunken Stepfather” site. Yea, me too. But I’m not trying to say UG is connected to DS or Lake City Quiet Pills. Don’t go blaming me for mixing the 2 mythologies. I’m just saying, like minds, maybe?

Alright, what I will say about all this is the dislike of Magic does circle around Morrie. Yes, it all comes back to Morrie:

ws ig on ccc1

There that sums quite a bit up, don’t it? I was still not reading at Websleuths when I first looked into The CCC and UG, I could have saved myself a lot of time and trouble if I had been.

So did Morrie harass Magic? Was Magic some kind of narc? The myhology only growing.

If you want, you can go and read for yourself what UG was talking about when bodies started being discovered off Oak Beach:

http://utopiaguide.com/forums/threads/4-bodies-found-on-li-2-could-be-cl-girls.42531/page-6

As I said before, it’s strange that they don’t mind anyone being able to read all the stuff they post on UG. And it’s eerie reading there. So if you didn’t click and read, I understand. To just point one thing out I will post a couple more comments from that thread:

ug on lisk2

ug on lisk1

“NICE” guys or not, I don’t see The CCC helping, even if they did know one of their members could be involved. Like with all the other corruption in Long Island, no one wants their own “Dirt” looked into.

I really should stop now. But that comment:

emily on ccc

Is this the same Emily who was on UG? They sure do want me to think so. Maybe it is. But if it’s not, there can really only be one person behind it:

cynthia on ccc

Don’t they sound a little alike? I know who wrote that. That’s NERD. He admitted writing it, just as he admitted to being PS149 and Seaslug44. I find the 2 comments so similar that even if the new one is from Emily, I would have to wonder if NERD knew her in some way. Which would be a whole other kind of thing. And this is already very murky.

So, for me, I’m gonna assume that NERD wrote that (I know all about assuming, we’ve talked about this before, and I’m more than happy to make an ass of myself to show the ass in others, you know this).  To understand this you only need to know how NERD likes to involve himself in UG stuff. Back when screen names from UG were popping up on MM7’s and my blog NERD was part of the games:

teps ccc lisk blog

lightweight and teps

I don’t know if those are the Teps and Lightweight from UG. Because when it comes to NERD, you just can’t know. He uses many different IPs. (though still was partial a few for a while) and NERD loves to have ongoing conversations with himself with different screen names. Even if those are the real CCC guys, I am pretty sure these ones are NERD:

puppetmaster

sirmixalot

Even if these are other Websleuthers or UG members, or friends of NERD, it don’t matter, I know for a fact these are NERD’s:

nerd as genius at mm7

nerd as amd on UG

nerd pom

And yes, as I said, this one is NERD as well:

cynthia on ccc

Where to even start… well, NERD chose Genius as one of the UG members to pose as. Unless NERD is Genius. I doubt it. But Genius is on UG, one of the nastier members in my opinion. I wonder why NERD picked that screen name to bring to life in the comments of my blog.

Damn. this is getting long, but I know some of you will appreciate all this. Some of you are already lost, I’m sure. I do apologise for that. I also bet at least one person does not appreciate any of this. I do not apologise for that, you had your chance to clear things up.

So Nerd, aka PS149, aka Seaslug44 had a lot to do with The CCC and UG being brought up. He definitely was part of all the hoopla that got me to go read at UG. But back then I could only guess NERD was PS149, and I had no idea he was Seaslug44, so I would have no idea why NERD knew so much about UG and The CCC. I still don’t, well other than mythology and NERD’s not so believing attempt to explain it all to me. But I’m getting a little ahead of myself. You know how I do that.

Those from Websleuths probably already know where I am going, because it was discussed there when Seaslug44 became one of the many Websleuth members who cross over to POI for other Websleuth members. Because this was found:

sealug44 ug profile

Yep, Seaslug44 was a member at UG, since 2005 I should add. Now this has been explained in many diferent ways by Seaslug44, most he admits were lies. Let’s start with the ones he told other Websleuthers about how he made that account to help find someone, or something like that. Here I’ll let him explain it:

nerd on ss44 on ug to ws

So NERD, or should I say SS44 was called out for having an account on UG, and instead of saying it isn’t him (which he claims it really wasn’t), he makes up some elaborate story to explain why he might have made an account up. All this to cover up a more elaborate story about a crazy ex-wife. But this is where I stared to wonder how honest NERD was being with me. We had talked about a lot of things, and I could understand and believe most of what he was saying. This wasn’t adding up to me.

As I said, the Seaslug44 account was made in 2005, which when I brought up, he acted surprised:

nerd on wife ug

He didn’t realize when the “fake” account was made? He wanted me to believe that he got accused of being a serial killer because someone had made a fake account on a “hobbyiest” site that he did all sorts of searching into, but he never noted when the “fake” account was made? Yea, that don’t seem right. Plus he wants me to believe that his wife was mad at him back in 2005 and made this “Fake” account to screw with him. But he didn’t  even know about it until the thing was brought up on Websleuths. Which by the way he decided to make up a lie about because his wife (who he was still with at that point) could be on Websleuths messing with him. If it’s true, I’m sorry, but I just can’t buy all that. Why would his wife use UG to get at him? Why would she know about such a site. And if she or anyone else made the account in 2005 to mess with him, why did he not even know about it till after it was brought up on Websleuths many years later? NERD’s explanations started getting harder to accept. And then of course I wrote the post about NERD being PS149 and Seasslug44 and I didn’t hear from him anymore. I understood, so I didn’t pester him with more questions, even though his answers on the CCC  and UG stuff just didn’t make sense to me.

Then as I started thinking about making the CCC posts, UG went down. I’m still not sure why it was down, but it was down for quite a while. I had to get some other posts out, but The CCC posts were building in my head. And right before I started putting it all down, UG came back up. Which I thought was great because now there would be references for what I was writing about if anyone wanted to search it out themselves. Which is always best… don’t take my word for anything, go see it all for yourself and make your own decisions. But as I said before, when UG came back it changed just a little. Some comments about The CCC seemed to be gone and the Seaslug44 account, that had changed too:

seaslug44 UG pic

I don’t know who that is, but it ain’t NERD.

Strange, there hadn’t been any comments or interaction from that account on UG since this:

seaslug44 ug

Nothing else since 2005. And the picture and info had always been blank:

sealug44 ug profile

But now, years later, and not long after I speak with NERD, aka PS149, aka, Seaslug44 the UG goes down and returns with an updated SS44 account:

new seaslug ug pic

Weird, right? I’m not saying this means anything. I don’t know if someone asked Slinky Bender to change or remove stuff, or maybe it’s just all unrelated coincidences. All I do know is I decided to see what NERD thought about it:

nerd block1

nerd block 2

And with that I was blocked. Fine. Just remember you came to the blog with your games NERD, all I did was figure them out. Go ahead and think I’m the bad guy. You are in good company. You don’t have to explain anything to anyone, but these questions are there.

Oh, and if you are behind the new “Emily” comment, NERD, WTF? Do you really think a third go at all this is a good idea? Just come clean and apologize for once again coming to my blog and thinking I’m still playing, when I said long ago, I’m done playing.

Wow, I really did go too far here. We really should have just stuck with part 2. A little late now though.

When it comes to The CCC there might not be much more than mythology. But that mythology is very thick.

whereitat ccc like brothers

 

Complaint Department Part 2

dph harvard zw 1

As you can see from the dates on the comments above, this is gonna be another post that’s been sitting a while. Unlike the last post, this one never made it to the written form in any way, it was sitting in my head (along with so many other posts that never made it out). Right about this time the whole Jerry thing erupted and it kind of went to the back burner of the mind. But it seems to fit in here so I’m gonna search my head, back to February and get the post out that I had planned but never got to. Luckily I did get the screen shots I needed for the post. Enjoy!

As you see in the title, this is a “Part 2”. Most likely it will be part of a trilogy post, because I’m bound to get more complaints between now and December. If you didn’t read Part 1 or need to refresh yourself here ya go:

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2016/04/07/complaint-department/

Though you might want to read these as well since they help show the whole picture:

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2016/04/04/shit-list/

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2016/04/04/down-a-few-levels-i-go-again/

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2016/04/10/sweet-pea/

Jason, who I playfully call Mr. Harvard had made a comment on the SG FB Page about someone who had the same name as Hackett but was not Hackett as if he was Hackett. If that is confusing, go read the posts.

I gave Harvard a pretty hard time for not doing his homework and posting totally wrong information on such a sensitive page. Well, what I really gave him shit for was going at those of us who corrected him instead of just removing his ridicules breakthrough. Again, go read it all if you haven’t yet and see for yourself.

Now look again at the comments I posted at the top of this post:

dph harvard zw 1

Well look at that, Mr Harvard did his homework this time.

It seems my blog does help some people find their way out of the rabbit hole. I’m glad to have helped.

Harvard’s new understanding though isn’t really enough to bring all this back up. I found it interesting and a little uplifting, but I don’t know if I would have done a whole post on it… and then in true SSDD, one person finds their way out and another one pops their head up from the deep, dark hole.

dph harvard zw

WOW BOB WOW! I can’t help but take that a little personally. I should just say STFU Josie and move on. Anyone who believes Dorothy or listens to Dorothy, well I’ve already said many, many times how I feel about them. But I have to wrap my head around this insane comment.

I get some (many) people don’t like me. I even get that some people may think I am no better than those I blog about. But to believe Dorothy Price Hill over the things written on this blog… that’s just crazy talk. I show examples of when people do what I say they do:

https://clyp.it/5snkejby

maureen and dph

doh-mm7-jk

 

murt email to mm7

dph email to mm7

dph sg fb steve vai

DPH leane man

dph nan fb websleuths

I could go on and on… everything I said people said, they said.  And the things I’ve said they have done… they did. You can see for yourself. So please Josie Farber or any other of Dorothy’s friends and supporters, please tell me where any of Dorothy’s Dog-Shit shows true? Where did she actually help any of the cases she has injected herself into? Show me how both her ex husbands are involved in LISK. Show me where her lies and internet slander/bully tactics has ever helped one person! In this post alone I show that I helped Harvard. And the fact that it was to help him see through Dorothy, doubles my point, don’t it? LOL!

Alright, enough on all that, because there are others with not so nice things to say  about this blog, and I feel I should let a couple in.

Kay Look Tweet

I don’t get much Twitter reaction, but I loved this one. I think Kay has some misunderstandings about me and the blog. But to be fair, if “Encore” was the first thing Kay read here, I can totally understand. That post was for people who have been here for a while, it was a fun post that was meant to come across exactly as Kay saw it, so, not their fault. Though their next comment did take the confusion to a different level:

kay look 2nd tweet

TRUMP?!? LMFAO! I’m not sure if this was a joke or if Kay thinks I’m somebody I’m not. Well obviously Kay thinks I’m a woman, which I am not, so yea, they think I’m somebody I’m not. But I don’t ever remember proclaiming any such thing on FB. Who does do stuff like that on FB? Oh yea, I remember, Nan Nan.

Look, I don’t know who Kim is talking about, but they seemed to be confused, which happens a lot here, this is a confusing place, so I will chalk this complaint up to a misunderstanding, they happen.

Let’s look at one more example… I’m not positive they are talking about this blog, but I got a feeling, lol.

websleuths wheres hawk

websleuths wheres hawk 2

websleuths hawk gone becasue of crazy blogger

If I am wrong and you are talking about some other “crazy” blogger, then never mind what I’m about to say. But since I’m pretty sure you are referring to me… pay attention.

First off, calling the guy who calls everyone crazy, crazy, is kind of funny, no? But let’s be honest, if I wasn’t crazy before I started blogging about all this, there’s a good chance all of this could have driven me there.

Next, I DID NOT STALK ANYONE!  SSDD, assholes!  I get tired of hearing this. The people I write about are out there publicly trashing whoever they have beef with, and I’m the stalker? Most of the stuff I read about Hawkshaw was from what was sent to me. But I couldn’t stop reading Thee Rant once it was brought to my attention.

Which brings me to my third and final point on these Websleuther’s complaints. Go ahead and give Hawkshaw credit for saying what he knows about the dirty cops in LI, pat him on the back and throw him a party. Let’s hope more police come out and do so. But don’t accuse me of being part of the corruption for a place I’ve never been just because I also pointed out what someone directly connected to that corruption has posted over the years:

pete-jury-death

pete-walmarts

pete-cousin-serial-killer

Ok, there you go… hope I helped some of you who have a warped view of this place, though I know I probably only confirmed it to most of you.

Let’s see if I can’t write some post you’ll like.

Welcome To The Illuminati…

This blog and those who are connected to it have been accused of being many different things with many different agendas. I now have to tell you… it’s ALL true!

Zero’s World and many who contribute here are part of the oldest and most powerful group that has ever existed. Our origins reach back to the death of Christ. Our family heritage is linked to the Masons and our country’s founding fathers. The secrets of The Knights Templar has been passed down through the years and the bloodline of Christ has continued through to this day. The Kennedys, Rockefellers, Astors, Rothschilds and many others are known to be a part of this bloodline , but in present day most of us have changed our names to avoid detection. Through the years many have speculated on the existence of the Illuminati and our roles in running the world. I am here to tell you soon all will be revealed and the world as you know it will change for ever.

This of course is the good news.

The bad news is, this blog was used as a HONEYPOT:

honeypot

This means everyone who has ever connected to this site in any way opened themselves to us. Any comments:

king pecker talk

were easily connected to their source:

rich keys profile

All your emails were hacked and collected:

DPH MM7 email Nancy email1

LISK Jen and UG

dph email to mm7

jjj email on zw

fluke email from JR

mm7 email to JR

As well as all your Facebook PMs:

Jerry kate1

jerry kate17

k8 dph294

k8 dph254

k8 dph324

k8 dph325

k8 dph326

lyon jerry1b

lyon jerry2b

lyon jerry3b

Those last 3 were sent to Jerry from Rich Lyons aka: Susie Mockingbird. In case people were wondering who was passing around personal info to everyone.

You now know how we were able to find so much from Longislandserialkiller.com long after the site was taken down:

LISK Fluke1

LISK Flukeyou 1

LISK Flukeyou 3.JPG

LISK Flukeyou 4

LISK Drifter 1

LISK JJ 1

LISK JJ 2

LISK wanda 2

LISK Resident

LISK ANON 1

It’s also how a blog long ago taken down by its creator can be put back up:

https://mm7vslisk.wordpress.com/author/miserymom7/

And how comments from that blog can now be seen for what they really are:

fu gus and bh

You never had a chance Fluke.

Secret pages were all seen:

secret group

Things unseen by most was easily seen by us:

plotts1

jim mutell LH1

No private conversation was truly private:

tkamb ss44

Even DPH’s “secret line” is known:

dphsandy hook secret line

We have it ALL. And ALL will be revealed in the comments.

3 Screen Shots

So things are getting crazy again! Maybe this fourth year was a bad idea. LOL!

It has been said I like screen shots (Kim says it a lot). Long time readers will remember how I used to say that about everyone else. You probably remember how I quickly had to master the art of the screen shot. I think it was LINative (I miss LINative) who said they liked reading here because I took people’s own words to show their true colors. I’m paraphrasing of course, but the point is, I learned quickly the best way to show what all theses people were really all about was by letting their own words speak for themselves.

So yea, screen shots have become a big part of this blog. The best screen shots come straight from the nuts. They take them of each other and then when they turn on each other (the nuts always do) they pass them around. My favorite screen shots came from Jen G. and Dorothy Price Hill. They tried so hard to prove to me the other was crazy… what was that, over 3 years ago now… and this still is going on. You see when a nut turns on another nut they send stuff out to show what the one nut has been up to. But they also show what they have been up to. Only proving they are both nuts. Confusing? You get it though.

Other screen shots come from people who have dealt with these nuts themselves.

And a few of my worshipers also obey and search out screen shots for me. LMFAO! Is that sarcasm?

As I see it, I’m not the only one who likes screen shots. Everyone’s got them, lots of them. Screen shots from private conversations. Screen shots from LISK.com and Websleuths.  Screen shots from  blogs, Facebook, Twitter, and other social media. Everyone likes screen shots, I’m not special there.

In fact there are so many screen shots out there (not to mention e-mails) that it can be very over whelming. But for those of you confused at why I have been paying so much attention to the screen shots coming from Pat’s Group (I know it’s not her group any more, was it ever?), I can break it all down to 3 screen shots for ya (man, this post has the words “screen shots” way to much in it).

First One:

dph-war

This was left by Dorothy Price Hill on a missing person’s page. The screen shot was sent to me by someone from the page. They were concerned about Dorothy’s sudden interest in the case. After curious comments like this one they had looked into her and found my blog. This is not the first or last time this happened to me. People contacting me to tell me how Dorothy has inserted herself in some case or how she had slandered someone. I am not exaggerating when I say Dorothy has upset many, many people. Something to remember, but not why I chose this as one of the 3 (say it with me) screen shots. The reason I have reposted this screen shot here is to once again say this. Dorothy declared war on this blog. I accepted. I don’t know how many times I have to say this before it’s truly understood.

Second One:

kim-zero-play

That one was sent by… oh yea, we aren’t saying who sent that one or the next one. Still there it is. Kim (Dorothy’s friend) called me out to play. So when I did, why did everyone get so butt-hurt?

Third One:

maureen-loves-dph

Oh Maureen, this is just shit. Everyone reading it know’s it’s shit. First off in that list of nuts only J.G. deserves it? LOL. J.G. never said anything about my mom or threatened to break my knee caps. Yes, J.G. deserved it, but the only one on that list? Please don’t try to fool yourself that you are fooling anyone else.

Also notice Maureen still calls Susie: Chris. Love it! I’m telling you, those 2 are close!

But that last part… “I believe DPH has the best intentions in the LISK case. I got to see for myself“. That’s just too much. What did you get to see for yourself, Maureen? Man, that is such shit. And everyone can see right through it. Even Maureen doesn’t believe it, that’s why she wrote it the way she did. You know what I mean.

Again, you just don’t know how many people Dorothy Price Hill has screwed with. Hitching your wagon to her was the final act in your charade.

Plus, go back to screen shot #1…

So there we are.

Any questions?

LISK Games

So I long ago concluded there were lots of people playing some sort of game with the Gilgo Beach Murder cases. Many people didn’t like me calling it games, but I don’t know what else to call it. Many tried to turn it back on me and say I am the one playing games. I understand that, but I’m really just shining a light on them all… to do that, I admit I had to get right down to the level of all these nuts involved. And believe me it has taken its toll.

But I don’t want anyone to get the idea that I think the LISK case is a game. Quite the contrary, I find that there is so many people playing some kind of game with an open serial killer case quite frightening. I don’t think anyone involved in this case is doing right by the victims. EVERYONE is out to prove, what they want to prove regardless of what is real. The LISK case is not a game and I am appalled by those who keep treating it like one. It’s why I do this. Well, one of the reasons… I told you all, I’m complicated.

Now before anyone bitches at me for saying EVERYONE is playing games with the case, let me just say, I’m not far from wrong. There all no absolutes, I know that. I said before I’m no Sith. But it’s a lot more than just a few Websleithers. More than a few angry neighbors. It’s more than just a few people off their meds and trolling the internet. That’s starting from the bottom and working up. Let’s start at the top. Chief of police James Burke is locked up right now. Anyone want to tell me he didn’t play games with this case? The Chief of Fucking Police! Or how about John Ray. One of the biggest mouth pieces in the case (and behind a lot of other big mouths). And when it comes to LISK Games… John Ray is one of the masters.

Go ahead hate me… I don’t care. I’m calling it as I see it. So please don’t come to me and say, “hey take that down” or “your messing with the case”. I’ve heard it all before. I asked for “last words” a long time ago… don’t even bother any more. We are past all that.

I long ago tried to move on from all the nuts who have pushed their way into the LISK case. I’ve done it a few times over the past 4 years. But there’s always been Dorothy and Flukeyou there to keep me involved. And even if they weren’t there is a number of nuts fighting their way into this. I’ve called a lot of these nuts out… we have a few left to go.. and new ones keep jumping up to say hi. So I have to just get it all out there now.

I know there’s a lot going on in secret pages and private messages right now. It’s crazy, right? But I have to bow out of all that. To many nuts seeping in. I made the mistake thinking I caught the attention of one nut pretending to be different people… tuned out it was 3 all new nuts. Well, I wouldn’t say all new. But first time they all reached out to me. And guess what, even between these 3 there are several screen names. So yea, I’m done playing the who’s who game… it always brings some new madness my way. So if I’m scarce in off blog activity for a while, I hope you all understand.

I started this blog keeping it all out in the open… on the blog. But since so many of the nut gallery like to do their dirty work off in private messages and phone calls, I had to do the same. And look where we are… how many have we knocked off in the past few weeks? I haven’t been to Websleuths lately, but I bet the games have quieted down.

So off the blog is no more… it’s been fun. But really it’s time to get the rest of this out of the secret discussions and out to be seen for what it really is. What ever that turns out to be.

Now before anyone reads the next post about our little “Joker”, EVERYONE needs to watch this video, and read all of the lyrics. I mean every word.

LindsayLohan6 & Seaslug44

So guess who deleted there Websleuths account?

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You are welcome Websleuths.

My days are numbered there I’m sure, so we got to get through all of this and as promised I still have to get to Hawkshaw and MCME! And who knows I may go off script and bring up Just K or Farmingdale U. Point is we are not quite through with Websleuths.

First I have to unravel this whole LL6 and Seaslug44 thing.

I need to put this right up front first. Sesalug44/PS149/Nerd has been very upfront with me about everything and I know who they are. Again, they are NOT Hackett. Everyone always thinks people who speak out against Fluke and other Hackett obsessors must be Hackett. This is ridicules. I am not Hackett, do not know the guy, and I have no idea if he is wrapped up in the LISK case… and I am one of the loudest people out here when it comes to going at the Hackett obssesors. I also want to say I do not believe Seaslug44 is a POI in all this. Just a Websleuther who got caught up in the back-n-forth. Let me explain:

Some of you may know Seaslug44 from Websleuths. He was a fairly large contributor on the LISK threads because he was thought of what they call “insiders”. In the LISK case that just means you live in Long Island. Well there were some issues with some of Seaslug’s posts and other stuff I’m not going to go into in this post. And LinseyLohan6 started thinking Seaslug44 was a POI. I heard about this a while back from LL6 himself.

I had just started reading at Websleuths to try to get a handle on the other side of the whole Fluke and MM7 thing. I knew in my heart (and have now proven enough for my head) that most of MM7’s trolls came from Websleuths. So reading there I saw a post from LL6 about their POI, they said it was someone who used to be on Websleuths. To me it sounded like Flukeyou was their POI so I wrote LL6 and asked if that was so. They said no and then told me all about Seaslug44. His name where he moved to. Said he might be connected to Hackett (there we go again, everyone likes to take it back to Hackett, which is fine, just show me the proof that someone knows Hackett before you just shove out there “maybes and “possiblies”. We can’t all be John Ray.

So, LL6 told me all about this Seaslug44 and I admit it was interesting… but LL6 seemed off to me. Boy, was I right about that, huh? So I let that all go. It was in late 2014 if I remember right. But I do have to thank LL6, without that conversation I would have never figured out who Nerd was. You see when the name LL6 gave me on Seaslug44 came up later while trying to find out who Nerd was, it all came together.

By the way, once I started looking up things online about Seaslug44 to see if he really was our Nerd I came across this:

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When I found it I was like, ahhh there’s another screen name for LL6. Rocky Sullivan! and i kept this thread bookmarked for the future:

http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=7094&page=13

And it did come in handy. This thread tells us quite a bit about LL6. Not as much as the “Devil’s Cookies” Thread:

http://sustainedreaction.yuku.com/reply/154518/Devils-Cookies#reply-154518

But put those 2 threads with all the stuff LL6 has said on Websleuths… well I will let you all draw your own conclusions.

So LL6 was out there throwing Seaslug44’s name and profile into the behind the scenes talks. Even told me all about it a few years back without a second thought. And they had no idea who I was. Or what kind of person I was. You know now, dontcha Paul?

Seaslug44 decides to make a new account to continue sleuthing on Websleuths, and I have to tell ya Nerd, that probably wasn’t a good idea. But he did, and PS149 was created. And again he became a large contributor to the LISK threads. But he clashed with a certain Truthspider. Truthspider is one of the original Hackett obsessors.  Well it wasn’t long before Truthspider’s buddy Flukeyou was involved. PS149 was pretty good at calling Flukeyou out, I think we can all agree on that. PS149 is actually one of the larger voices against Flukeyou and for that I thank him.

Well it went to a whole new level when MM7 got involved and made her blog Catching LISK. As I said the whole thing got so bad on Websleuths MM7, Flukeyou and others got thrown off. Seaslug44, now PS149 decided to take another step and started “spamming” MM7’s blog. His words, though I’m sure MM7 sees it different, but for the most part it describes what he did there pretty well. I’m bot condoning what he did at MM7’s blog, in fact I think it was your biggest mistake. You just got out of the mess with LL6 as Seaslug44, why would you jump right into it with another Hachett obssesor? I get what MM7 was doing was wrong, but you wanted to keep your PS149 out of the circus so you could still go to Websleuths. Nerd and all his alters would be invited and it really became a mess. Plus although we all agree MM7’s blog was wrong, but between you and others (like Susie, I know you had your share of screen names on our blogs, can’t prove it, don’t need to) flooding her comments, and Fluke, Jen, and Dorothy filling her head with stories, MM7 was really afraid. I know for a fact she was actually terrified when it all started.

Still without all those screen names and MM7’s circus I never would have started blogging about this and we’d never know the truth about people like LL6 and TKAMB. So in a way I guess… thank you?

Nerd (I’m not sure what to use, that’s what I’m gonna call ya for now) you are actually being very upfront and very apologetic and I appreciate that. It makes it easier to get through it then just calling me a piss of shit and a stalker. I hope you stick around and still comment. I’m gonna move on but I do want to give out a little advice.

In my new conversations with LL6 before he started in with his turrets I asked him about what he had told me long ago about Seaslug44 and he admitted he was wrong to have done that to you:

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In fact he asked me not top mention you in the blog:

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I know, I was as shocked as you all probably are. It looked like LL6 had learned a lesson after all… NOPE! Because he told me he now was convinced it was PS149:

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Yep, LL6 went on and on about the proof he has that PS149 is LISK. I wanted to reach trough my computer and slap him. He was sleuthing the same exact Websleuther again and didn’t even know it.

So here’s where this stands. LL6 has a hard on for you Nerd. And LL6 as we all now know is way up John Ray’s ass. He’s John Ray’s “Rainbow”. LL6 is also in contact with Josh and Rachel from The Killing Fields “daily” according to LL6 himself.

You’ve made some questionable decisions up to this point when dealing with the out of control Websleuthers. Don’t hide from this and skip the multiple screen names. Stand right up and face LL6. I would start with Josh Zeman. Maybe a 3 way message with you Josh and Pete, lol. But seriously, going to John Ray would probably be a bad idea. But let Josh know that the things LL6 is saying about you are not true. If you let this go you will once again become a POI in this twisted game of Websleuths.

All the games and secret decoder ring shit ain’t helping this case. Nutty Websleuthers with multiple screen names (I mainly mean TKAMB here, but multiple screen names don’t all fall at her feet) has not helped in all the years it’s been going on.

I (once again) everyone stop playing games, come forward with what you know or what you think you know, come forward with any part in this you may have big or small, and let the people in charge go through and see what is relative and what is from nuts. Let those who are trying to solve the case get through all the madness created online and in information being passed around everywhere and get to what matters. Solving the case.

 

#Blindside

No new messages from LL6 this morning. Looks like he realized it’s best not to fight the truth. And more important, don’t call me Blink 182 Boy! LMFAO, what a piss of shit. Anyways now I can move on. But keep reading Rainbow, I think you are gonna find this post quite interesting.

So you may have noticed that for this last year there are no hashtags. After 3 years the gag ran its course. Plus, I don’t know if to many got the whole hashtag thing. I brought it back for this one though. This post deserves a hashtag all its own.

Does anyone watch Survivor? I’m what you would call a super-fan. I say that a lot, that’s because I’m such a Fanboy. But I’ve seen every single episode of every single season… so yea I’m what you would call a super-fan. And any super-fan would tell ya that the best part of the show is the “blindside”. That’s when someone get a kicked off the show when they think they are safe. They think they are running the show The never see it coming. When it happens on the show #Blindside appears on the tv screen and social media lights up with the hashtag. Well this is #Blindside ZW style…

So as we all know I finally figured out who Nerd was. And I have to be honest (Damn, so much honesty lately)  I have had every intention of  explaining who Nerd was. I mean seriously, it’s one of the main reasons this blog was made, to figure out who Nerd was. And like I said, I figured it out long ago. Was pretty sure by the end of the summer. And I didn’t figure it out on my own, I had lots help. For that I really need to say “thank you”. You know who you are.

So figuring out who Nerd was brought on a shit load of questions. And for the most part, Nerd answers them. I had a whole new understanding of how the people from Websleuths have screwed this whole thing up.

This is gonna be one of those posts where some people are going, “Wow Bob Wow!” While others just won’t get the full meaning, not yet. I know this blog can be confusing at times, but everyone gets what they should from it. But if you don’t know who Nerd is: Nerd is a screen name used by what a bunch of us call the 69 IP. An Ip that was behind multiple screen names on MM7’s blog “Catching LISK” and my blogs also. It was behind many screen names like Puddle Of Mudd, AMD, Risa Goodman, Veronica Newman, Genius, and Sophia Hall. The same IP also alos liked to use other people’s screen names like Flukeyou, Mysterymom7, Linda, Too Close Too Home, and Dan B. The same IP also liked to comment as C. Peter Hackett, but I have to point out, Hackett was a popular screen names on MM7’s blog. Lots of trolls and Websleuths cross overs used it. Still Nerd left over 500 comments on MM7’s blog alone, all under a range of screen names saying all sorts of stuff, some very helpful some just way out there. And Nerd wasn’t just the 69 IP, there was another IP… the 209.342.230.** one that also used countless screen names on both MM7 and my blogs. I called this one AMD because that was the primary screen name it used, and I knew it was Nerd as did MM7 for obvious reasons (like AMD was used on both IPs). This IP also had a variety of screen names: Seafood Addict, Cynthia Wise, Florida Frank, Concerned Mother, Lisa Galetta, and even D. hill and J.S.

I have posted all of this before:

https://liskdotcom.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/the-69-ip/

But I want to make sure we all understand where we stand with Nerd.

Oh and just to remind everyone, Nerd once wrote this when I said he was all these screen names:

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Yea, called me and MM7 dumbasses. Which MM7, fine I get that, but me Nerd? Me? Especially since MM7 and I had it right, you were all these screen names. Nerd even used his screen names to try to convince us we were wrong about all the screen names:

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So yea, I just want to make suer we all understand where we stand.

So, like I just tried with LL6, I decided to reach out to Nerd and try to understand them and what they did better, before just blindly posting names and stuff. And as I said, for the most part I think I understand Nerd now, though there are still a few things I’m not sure of. I’m confusing people, ain’t I? Alright, let’s just get to the point.

So I figured out who Nerd was and we communicated a little. And we all saw the same thing on the blog. Nerd came back, but PS149 was right there:

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This was right when I first reached out to Nerd letting him know I knew who he was. And I did not like it very much. I still wasn’t sure about PS149. But them both showing back up at the same time told me that one of three things were true…

A. Nerd was pretending to be PS149 (which would have really pissed me off because I was just tired of the whole “it’s not the real PS149” game)

B. Nerd and PS149 were friends.

or #3 MM7 was right all along and Nerd was PS149.

I started rereading all the Nerd comments on my blog, I realized that a lot of them were on the first post I made about PS149:

https://liskdotcom.wordpress.com/2013/06/03/for-ps149/

It became obvious to me that PS149 was Nerd, and I figured other readers were probably guessing that to. Well Nerd was being pretty open with me, he knew I had figured him out and seemed ready to explain, and as I said for the most part i get it, i really do Nerd. But there are questions with you that puzzle me, and i don’t think you are being totally open about everything, so well… back to the post.

So Nerd had admitted he was Nerd (which duh, we knew who he was for a while now, I said that, right?) And he admitted to all the Nerd IPs, (the 69 one, the 209 ones and a few others I figured were him from later on Zero’s World). So I knew I had to ask about PS149 while  I asked him if that was really PS149 on the blog now (I should point out, the 2 above comments about female loved ones came from separate IPs, so it could have still been 2 separate people). He told me yes. So if true, and I knew it was, I had just narrowed the questions on PS149 down to 2.  Nerd either knew him or was him. So I posted I showed him a few things from the blog he said about PS149 and he said could see he had to come clean with me, I wasn’t gonna just let it go:

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Aha! I knew it… in fact this was my reply:

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To some this might not be a big surprise. It wasn’t to me. I figured Nerd was PS149 or knew him. And as you see he started writing as both screen names here like we were the only ones who knew. I really didn’t like that. Pick one screen name here and be done with it. You don’t want people to know who you are, fine, but don’t try to confuse the situation further.

So I wrote Nerd and told him I wanted to put it out there that Nerd was PS149, I told him many have already figured it out and it just looks silly posting as both of them still on the blog. To which he replied:

joe-ps149-no

Man, do none of them get me?

Yes it is harming someone. Me. I don’t let the whole screen name thing go here, never have, never will. Plus why would you want to continue something after it’s been seen. Trust me people got it. Right? You all saw PS149 was Nerd. And if not yet, you would have, and I definitely ain’t being involved in looking like I tried to cover it up.

So here we are… I had to get us up to par. And Nerd, if you would have just said, “sure, let’s get this PS149/Nerd thing out there and just choose one screen name to go by, no more games”, I would have stopped there. And it wouldn’t have meant much. Again, I think most people know Nerd is PS149 by now.

But see here’s the thing. What we figured out long ago had nothing to do with PS149. What we figured out last year was that Nerd was Seaslug44.

I know, I know, It blew me away when I realized it too!

Let me all help you get your mind around this. Nerd, MM7’s blog troll was Seaslug44. And we now know Nerd was also PS149. Which means Seaslug44 is PS149!

I know, right? Wow Bob WoW!

I’ll leave you all with that to chew on for a while.

Stay Tooned!

Lindsay Lohan 6

Last week I posted this:

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2016/12/29/lets-get-down-to-bussiness/

I know it seems like ages ago. A lot has happened in 1 week. As I said that post had been in the making for quite a while and when I finally sat down to get it finished and posted it had changed a little. Some things were left off. For instance the screen name Lindsay Lohan 6 was mentioned in the original version. For a few reasons I took it off. That obviously was a mistake… so here we go.

It was comments like this that first made me notice LL6:

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I could just tell that they were one of the nuts. Guess what, I was right.

LL6 likes to say my blog is pointless and boring. They said it on Websleuths and they even told me so personally, yesterday:

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What the fuck? That’s kind of ballsy, especially for someone who had just asked me this:

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Um, yes Paul, yes, I am.

Paul aka LindsayLohan6 (nice screen name, all I could think of all the time was how LL6 was 1 off from MM7, no connections I’m sure, but it’s all I could think of every time I saw your screen name), thinks he is helping the case. And maybe he is. Maybe he’s the one who is gonna solve it. To be honest, I took him off the post and actually sent him a message before bringing him into the madness. I know, I know, my mistake, LL6 decided to bring the madness, which ended in a 3-way with Josh Zeman. Pure madness. But let’s start at the beginning.

As I said, LL6 has not been nice in the past when talking about this blog. Plus I had heard, that like the rest of the nuts, he goes running to John Ray with all his “findings” I also figured he was one of the many Websleuthers that went to Josh and Rachel for the show The Killing Season. But before I slumped them in with the others, I decided to write him on Facebook and see what he had to say (remember when I did the same with Candyce? Yea, this worked out just as well):

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That was the reply. No who is zero? Why are you writing me? Just “What do you hear what do you say”. Well I think I rocked poor Paul’s world when I told him what I hear, what I say. I told him I hear and I say he is LL6. LOL. I think this might have shocked him a little. But he played it cool at first… at first.

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Well, isn’t that convenient?

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I bet it does. I bet it does.

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I think I started making LL6 nervous here. I wasn’t trying too. But with how the blog has been lately, I totally understand.

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This was all good, I mean, I knew I was right about this guy, but it’s good to actually see it. And I was seeing it. I told him I thought he was not much better than the rest. I tried to explain that I feel what they all do messes with the case. But like all the rest he said:

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Reddit? Yea, Candyce used to go there, I’ve been there a few times, who wants to make a bet it’s full of nuts like the ones I write about? Candyce and LL6 make up 2 already!

Alright, so LL6 doesn’t think he does anything like these guys. But I was waiting for something. I knew it was coming. Something that would show exactly what I see LL6 having in common with people like MM7 and TKAMB. I didn’t have to wait long:

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Yep, that was it. He helps out John Ray. Who else does this? MM7 did quite a bit. Flukeyou, TKAMB, shit all the nuts do right? They go and tell their stories to John Ray and he twists it into Hackett… am I seeing that wrong? And before we go on, I’m not trying to help Hackett, his name has been gone after on this blog as much as any other (well, almost, I only share an eternal dance with one, huh Dorothy?). You want to sleuth Hackett, have at it, I’m just calling it as I see it. Oh and John Ray calls LL6 “Rainbow”. Smells like another screen name.

Now I need to take a moment to say that a few years ago after reading LL6 post about their POI on Websleuths, I asked who their POI was. They told me it was someone from Websleuths, then told me their screen name and their real name and a few other things about them. I think that need to be known to keep this post in perspective. And once more when i brought this person up, they said they no longer thought they were right, even though they were so sure before. I don’t think you will see any of the irony in this, LL6, but I’m sure there is shit loads of it. So LL6 tells me they have a new LISK POI… get this another person on Websleuths! I swear to God. LL6 now believes he found another Websleuther that he is pretty sure is LISK. Perspective!

I tried to explain why I saw it this way, but all he kept saying was talk to John Ray, talk to Josh, talk to Rachel… I swear, he kept repeating it:

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They never understand me. They do all they can to prove me wrong and all they do is prove me right. Through out the conversation LL6 wanted me to explain how I figured out who he was. I tried to explain it don’t matter. People pass around information, go back and read the perspective part if you still don’t see irony. That is irony right? Am I saying it wrong again? Regardless, please keep this post in perspective. I told him, you all share bits of info online and then connect offline and share stuff, you all go to John Ray and try to one up your fellow Websleuthers, you each think you are helping the case while all the others are wackos. Stuff gets passed around. It’s the good, the bad, and the ugly of the internet. But he had to know who:

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Now there ya go Lindsay, you’ll be a real sleuth yet! Now was it one of these people, or did they tell someone and it made its way out there? Wait, we can’t just gloss over Scalise Sr. being there… and some woman. Yep, as TKAMB would say, “The plot thickens”.

So maybe one of them got it from the phone call and passed it on. I tried to tell LL6 that when you put yourself out there questioning others, you end up getting questioned. He didn’t like this. But it’s true. If you get involved in any back-n-forth on the internet, no matter what your intentions are, it will come back at ya, that’s why it’s called back-n-forth.

LL6 of course let me know I was just as bad as all of them:

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How, ’bout now? Are ya sure now? Look i know I’m no better than any of you, blah, blah, blah, I heard it a million times. Except I’m not sleuthing the case (I’ve said that a few times, right?). Another thing I ain’t doing is running to John Ray or anyone else claiming I have information on who LISK might be.

There were some other interesting parts to the conversation:

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TKAMB reaching out to LL6 through Kolker?!? Take it as you want I guess. I’m sure you all know how I see it (oh and TKAMB, I thought you frowned on “running to the press”).  Anything else Lindsay?

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Yea, we will get to MCME soon enough. As the conversation wound down he said this about the blog:

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Like my response? I really didn’t care, he’s said it before, but I was done with the conversation and I wanted him to sweat a little (fucking dick).

And he did seem to go into a bi-polar break down:

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I didn’t reply because I wasn’t at the computer any more. When I came back and saw it all I was like wow… and then I saw this:

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WTF?!? Really? I mean, really? So right off the bat… LL6 called me Blink 182 Boy. LOL, good one. But to bring Josh in like that, wow. I was stunned. To spring it on me, to spring it on him. Stunned. And to top it off I was getting lectured in a group chat I had no idea I was a part of. I don’t mind though. I know how it all looks… my point. right? I say they are like Dorothy, they say I am like Dorothy… I can see where Josh is coming from, and he was (like me) forced into a group chat. But I never said anyone was LISK, no please no one think that. Again, I’m not sleauthing the case, the people I mention are people I feel have nothing to do with the case and should probably STFU! We are clear there, right? And one other thing, I didn’t ho running to Josh.

So last night after seeing all this I sat down in a feverish pitch to get this all out there. Fuck it, call me “Blink 182 Boy”, Lol. I woke up this morning to look it over and decide how to end it… something like… “Hey LL6, how boring is the blog now?”. I know very predictable. Well I woke up to this message:

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I thought, maybe I’m being to quick on this. Is LL6 really as bas as the others? Shit, am I as bad as the others? Are LL6 and I as bad as each other? Maybe I should just delete this post. And then:

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“King Retard”?!? Ah come on… that’s messed up. And, forgive me if I go to deep here, that statement implies you are a retard… no?

Ah hell, what am supposed to do? What the fuck am I supposed to do? Well, you are reading this, so you know I posted it… and I thought I’d let LL6 have the final word:

ll6-crazy

Chris Lovejoy Part 1

So, as I said, To Kill A Mockingbird uses all sorts of fake screen names or what we have all come to call, sock puppets (yes I’m going back to that word). She has for some time now. Long ago when ever people brought her up to me (and not by TKAMB, because back then I wasn’t on Websleuths, I mean when people brought HER up) they said she made lots of Facebook accounts and inserted herself into the case (Boy do I see that now). Most were puzzled by it and did not know why she did it, but they told me to stay far away from her. And I did. I have mentioned her by name a few times on the blog. But for the most part I stayed away. And I was fine not knowing much about this person until I went to Wensleuths and discovered that this person was TKAMB. Here was another one. Why? Why do they do it. They all say they are helping the families. Yea, Fluke, MM7, Jen, Dorothy, they all claim that’s what they are doing. Well that’s not how I see it. Does any one else? I know some of the families don’t. And now just going over all this person has written in public and in messages under so many different screen names, after years of waiting for them to just stop, I had to do something, say something, before I left this all behind. I mean, yes, I got the truth out there about so many of these “players”. I call them that, because they act like it’s a game. They think it’s about tricking and fooling people. They are trolls, but they inserted themselves into the LISK case to become “players”.  So I couldn’t go without exposing one last “player”. One of the biggest.

Most of us know one of TKAMB’s favorite sock puppets is Chris Lovejoy. And I have quite a collection of things Chris Lovejoy has said/written, and I was gonna share them, but that will have to wait till part 2. Because Chris Lovejoy just wrote me a message:

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Wow. Don’t these people get what I do here, lol. At first I wasn’t gonna reply. But hey, it’s a sock puppet:

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Yea I bet that part where she calls the Gilbert’s liars isn’t helping her with anyone who might have been listening to her. Good. Because she’s poison to the case in my opinion. She is no better than Dorothy… wait, she is  worse… Dorothy is crazy,  what’s TKAMB’s excuse? Poison.

I won’t bore you with the whole correspondence but here’s some highlights:

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Again, don’t they see what I do? LOL!

I think I got TKAMB a little worried about what I might post next. Yea, I tend to do that to people. You are in great company TKAMB. They all say the same thing too…why do you waste (spelled right) your time on Flukeyou and Dorothy? Sounds like Joey, “Why do you care who Flukeyou is?” LMFAO! And the fact that you were probably the one who first put up MM7’s identity (yea, I know that too), some of the others who have been through this already might actually be happy to see it now happening to you. Couldn’t happen to a nicer person, right? Yea, that’s kind of weird. I’m helping MM7 in a way. But I never said I didn’t want to help her, I tried to show her how to get out of the mess she created hooking up with all these people. Oh well, I don’t want to get sidetracked talking about MM7.

Why? TKAMB/Chris never did answer that. Why make up screen names and multiple fake Facebook accounts? Why insert yourself into the case and harass people once you are there? Why try to convince so many people you know inside stuff? Why is that so important to show the internet that you and only you know who LISK is? Do you really think you are helping? Yea, well Chris Lovejoy didn’t answer any of that and left me with this:

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Did I just get a “cease and desist” from a sock puppet? Shit, I think I did. Damn, that’s fucking funny but kind of stupid. It didn’t work for Dorothy or any of the other nuts, what makes you think it would work for a sock puppet. All it did is create this post for me. Yea, that was not the way to go. I think we need to just cut to the chase…

TKAMB, and I know you are reading today, I hope you had a good New Years, because this is gonna sting a little… ah who am I kidding, this is gonna hurt like hell!

Let’s Get Down To Bussiness

“Let’s get down to business
I don’t got no time to play around what is this?
Must be a circus in town, let’s shut the shit down
On these clowns, can I get a witness?”

Oh no, he’s quoting Eminem lyrics, this isn’t gonna be good. Shall we get started?

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I have posted this e-mail before (Dorothy often began her e-mails with “DO NOT POST THIS ON YOU BLOG”, and I just get a kick out of posting them, in fact Dorothy I may put all your e-mails in a book someday… pipe, smoke it, you know the drill Dottie) and I have gone over how most of these names meant nothing to me back then, but with hindsight, you can see it all at work.

I’m not gonna get into all of that old stuff again. But you are all welcome to read through the e-mail and get what you want out of it, there is plenty to discuss there (and like I said we have discussed a lot of it already). I want to focus on one line from that name dropping masterpiece:

“Cristin also had me meet former NYPD Pete Fiorello. He knows ALOT about corruption in Suffolk County.”

This is where we are gonna start.

At the time I had no idea who Pete  was. And there were so many names. But this one would come up again and again. Dorothy said he was a detective she worked with and she mentions him a lot. From what I  know (and I know a lot) Pete worked with Dorothy and Cristin… so that already is a bad start. So working with Dorothy… strike 1.

As I looked more in to this Pete guy I saw that he was once indeed a cop, I started wondering if he was PS149… he isn’t. The more I looked into him I realized he was another one of these nuts who is obsessed with their LISK POI. I mean Fluke has nothing on Pete. POI obsession… strike 2.

But then Cristin brought the ex cop up to me back when Dorothy started doxing me. LOL, well she tried anyways, but she never believed any of the real stuff about me, not when the stuff she made up was so much better for her delusional agenda. Still, Cristin had called me, wanting to ensure me she did not pass any info about me on to Dorothy. I wasn’t too upset, I had let plenty enough personal info of me slip through, that it wasn’t to hard for anyone to figure out who I was. Shit, it only took Son Of Man a few hours once he started looking. I wanted people to know I was just who I said I was… it made it easier to see through Dorothy’s tangled web of what I have always called, Dorothy Dog Shit. I’m getting off track… let me jump back on… So Cristin said she didn’t think Dorothy found anything on her own. Even though I said to her all I just wrote here, she still didn’t think Dorothy could have figured it out by herself. Cristin then mentioned a detective that Dorothy worked with… guess who? Yep… Petey!  Since then Dorothy herself had mentioned Pete helped her with putting together some kind of dossier on me that she has turned into the FBI. LMFAO! So it seems like this Pete guy, this ex cop, wannabe detective, looked into me for the queen nut troll herself, Dorothy Price Hill. That’s a big strike 3!

But Dorothy says in the e-mail above that it was Cristin who introduced Pete to her. So how much did Cristin work with Pete? And although Cristin insisted she never discussed me with Dorothy, there are many places where Dorothy has said they looked up things on me together. And I’m pretty sure they did. Some of my friends that Dorothy went after in comments I know came from stuff Cristin looked up (‘Member Tattoo Mike? Yea, I member).

So for a while now I have been keeping Pete on the back burner, seeing where he stood in all this and why he would work with a nut like Dorothy. So far I have not met one credible person who worked with Dorothy. Remember that list includes, Jen, Fluke, and MM7. Well, Pete, it’s time to come off that back burner. Welcome to the blog!

It will be nice to have someone new to write about, I know everyone is tired of Fluke and Dorothy. I have covered that side of it in quite detail. It’s time to take a look at the other side… the side that followed that group of nuts from Websleuths to LISK.com to Catching LISK and finally to my blogs, where they would all scatter. We can’t discus that side without bringing up NERD or PS149. And right here I did bring them up. I had a few things posted here that I had figured out. Some of it was wrong, but enough of it was dead on. Since this post has been sitting around all year this is part that I decided to take out since NERD contacted me  a few weeks back and came clean. Yea, lots of what I had written here was right on. Thank you to those who helped me along the way. NERD, I wanted desperately to know who you were. Now I do, so there is no need to go on any more about this. I’ll just say PS149 is not Hackett, as if I even have to say that, lol. I really don’t think it matters much, other than MM7, I think I was the only one concerned with who NERD was. And that was mainly because I thought they could be some help figuring out some of the Websleuthers involved in the game aspect of this. All in all  the stuff we talked about leads right to where I knew it all really began. Websleuths! And that’s just where this post went next:

When I first started blogging about LISK.com, people told me I should check out Websleuths. They said that’s where Fluke and MM7’s games really started. From there, feelings on Websleuths were mixed. Some said it was just as bad as LISK.com with  clicky commenters who pounce on ya if you ain’t part of their group. They said it was full of self-righteous trolls  and so-called insiders playing all three sides of the coin (front, back, and the circular rim). While others told me that Websleuths was full of good people just trying to help and that it’s moderators do their best keeping out the trolls. Both sides were right. Although it would be a while before I would finally check out Websleuths and see this for myself. You see at the time there had been some issues at Websleuths. There was an inner fight between the sites owners. As well as an issue with some of its sleuths sleuthing each other, which resulted in a handful of them (including Flukeyou and MM7) being kicked off the site. The site also went through some operational changes making it only possible to read on the site if you made an account for it. Just knowing that much about it kept me away. I had enough dealing with the screen names of LISK.com and Catching LISK, I had no intentions of going through countless more on another site.

I would eventually make a Websleuths account though. And yes, there are some good people there and yes some of the moderators try to keep the troll games away. But it’s no different from any other place on the internet and has seemed to fall way to catfish and sock puppets. I know a lot of you are gonna argue with me on this point. Tell me that Websleuths has helped solve cases, identify Johns and Janes, and gives arm-chair detectives a chance to get together and help. All very, true but dosen’t chance what I just said about it. Let me remind you… Jennifer G. is on Websleuths. Flukeyou was on Websleuths were made such a mess they kicked him off. Cristin and Candyce were on Websleuths, were kicked off, but they both told me they just made new accounts and got back on. So this is the types of sleuths setting the stage for its threads. And although I have really only checked out the LISK threads, I am told this kind of stuff goes on in other threads as well.

And before you try to say that’s just a small handful who were quickly kicked out (and then went right back in), let me move on with this post and get to the good stuff. The Websleuthers who may have connections to Dorothy. They may have been some of those screen names that followed over to Cristin’s blog, because it had a few Websleuthers there, that I’m sure of. They are definitely candidates for the nut gallery. And they are definitely playing the same types of games as Dorothy, Joe Jr, Jen, and Cristin.

Let’s start with To Kill A Mockingbird, aka kitty katy, aka Alice Cooper aka Oak Beach, aka Chris Lovejoy, and countless other screen names. You don’t know how long I have been wanting to deal with you. You seem more bi-polar than anyone I know involved in this, and let’s not forget, we had the likes of Nancy, Son Of Man, and Dorothy Price Hill. You outshine them all!  And it’s not just the multiple screen names you use all over social media. One minute you are helping John Ray and the next you are trashing him. You claim you were friends with Mari but you call the Gilberts liars. You claim to have all sorts of inside information that can prove what really happened to Shannan, but every time you put something up, you quickly yank it down. You go around telling everybody how wrong they are, but what have you done? You say you’ve done so much and I agree. You’ve done plenty to fuck with people. Well, we are about to get way up in your shit sweetie. I’m pretty sure you saw it coming though. I definitely have left some clues. Welcome to the blog TKAMB!

Now most of you don’t know this, but TKAMB sometimes works with another Websleuths member you know as Hawkshaw. They make quite the dynamic duel. Hawkshaw, I’d welcome you to the blog, but I already did that up above.

Who else? Hoot Owl? Yea, what’s your connection to Dorothy? Or is it TKAMB? I can’t shake the felling you are one of them or know one of them… You definitely like to play games like one of them. Why? Feel free to answer anytime. Oh, and welcome to the blog! Though I have a feeling I also already welcomed you above.

That leaves us with MCME. I have been watching you for a while. You claim to be an Oak beach insider… and that may just be true. All the more reason for me to keep my eye on you. A few names have come up on who you might be (It’s great how you all sleuth each other, it makes it so much easier for me). One of those names is a familiar one and keeps coming up. I’m not gonna drop it though… I’m trying hard not to be a name dropper like Dorothy up there in that email. Besides when you let enough time pass, most of you out yourselves or one of your buddies do it for ya. MCME, you have said (wrote) a few things over the years that have me wondering about you. Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t it you who said you walked your dog in the marsh where Shannan would later be found? Didn’t you say she wasn’t there? I find these comments hard to believe. And if I’m right and you did make those comments, well that just makes me wonder if you are connected to any of these other nuts. If I am remembering wrong and you did not make those comments, please let me know, I don’t want to be putting out wrong information. Either way, welcome to the blog!

As I sit here reading over this post and coming up with some clever way to end it, something like I’m here to remind you that bullshit does not pay (it’s from the Eminem song above, don’t tell me you didn’t listen to it, go, listen to it) Anyways, as I sit here looking at this post I know that once I hit the “Publish” button I am opening up a whole new can of worms. Heading deeper into that rabbit hole. Peeling another layer off that onion.

I’m my own worst enemy.