Hawkshaw In Zero’s World Part 3

Alright let’s finish this trilogy off.

Last night I talked to Pete on the phone.

I know… a definite Wow Bob Wow moment.

We had a good talk… I learned a lot and I think he did as well. Like I said, it was a good talk.

That’s it.

No need for me to put it up here. We handled this the right way. It was an honest discussion… no games, no cryptic BS. I have never considered Pete as one of the game players and he has a right to come to his own conclusions (which I can’t honestly say are not legitimate arguments… Burke is shade—-dee) so I had a pretty good idea the call was gonna go like it did.  You have my thanks Pete for how the whole thing went down, I really enjoyed the conversation.

Do I dare say Pete and I are friends?

Maybe that’s a little forward of me… but I bet we talk again… and I bet just like the call last night… they won’t end up on this blog.

I actually have great conversations with lots of people that I have met because of this blog… and none of it is on here.

I swear it’s true…

I react way different to real talk with real people.

That’s it.

Sorry if you were expecting more.

I spent enough of the day on the post before this one… I just want to go binge on Star Wars movies…

May The 4th Be With You!

Hawkshaw In Zero’s World Part 2

Almost everyday this week I woke up with a new comment from Hawshaw waiting for me. I’m not gonna lie, I started looking forward to it.

The first was on Tuesday:

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This one was kind of nice. It actually thanked me. Your welcome, by the way. I wonder if here read everything… I get the feeling he hadn’t at this point. This comment talks a lot about bias… this is partly because I have said I feel that Pete gets involved in cases way too close to him… and that he seems to be biased in his detective work. Partly because of that but mostly because Pete seems to think I am connected to the SCPD. Perfect example of Pete’s biased detective work. I have heard this rumor before… did you start this rumor Pete or did someone tell it to you?

No matter… whoever started is not important… I know who is spreading it.

Wednesday I woke up to:

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This one was not as nice. But he does drop some more hints at who Pete thinks I might be… definitely earning that screen-name.  We will get into all those “handles” a little latter.

Thursday morning:

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Another nice one. Hawshaw “marvels” at my work. I like that. He also calls me a jerk… I like that a little less. He can’t remember is it was SS (Susie S,) or DPH (no need to put a name to these initials) that told him about me. I am pretty sure they have both mentioned me to Pete. All of this does seem to go against DPH’s story that Pete helped her dig up information on me… or maybe Pete just forgot that as well.

TGIF:

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Ouch! I deserved the “stupid” remark. I did call it a trial in the post Hawkshaw is referring to. SICK MOTHERFUCKER though? In all caps?!? Even though Hawkshaw hid the end of his comment in hashtags, I figured it out. A little harsh Petey.

Later that evening I got a bonus Hawkshaw comment:

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Ahhh… Hawkshaw was reading now… not just posts either… Pete was venturing into the comments… he probably shouldn’t read all those. To give this comment context I will explain… In this post there was mention of Pete having a cousin who was serial killer in Queens. In the comments some of us were discussing who this could be. To be fair we didn’t have any names or dates to look up. So calling people idiots just because you know all the information and they don’t… who we kidding… that’s Pete’s thing… this may really be Pete after all. Thank you for clearing that up for everyone… I could now do a quick Google search:

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Damn Pete, your cousin was a SICK MOTHER######!

Pete was doing some late night reading and another comment pooped up:

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That reminds me, I have to ask mom about using her basement again for the next guttersnipes meeting. Pete, what are you talking about? You do get you are anonymously bashing people right now. Yes, Hawkshaw is what you call a “handle”. Even if some may associate this “handle” with a particular gumshoe… You used it the same any other person using a anonymous “handle” does. Including to bash people from time to time. Which Pete knows I know that, he was really reading now.

I am not addressing John Ray (at this moment), Leanne, or the conference.  That was long ago, if you don’t know what I think of all that (and trust me Pete, I know much more on it all than you do) than that is because you don’t know anything about me or this blog (gotta be Pete). Pete is reading posts and comments from 3 years ago (yea 3) and using it to take a swipe at his boogeyman… I”m not going to appease him.

Best to just wait for the next mornings comment.

Even though Pete had been up late reading the morning comment came like clock work… in fact there were 2 this morning:

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Did I call Pete sick? I don’t remember? I know I called him creepy, homophobic, racist, arrogant, narcissistic, and chauvinistic. I don’t remember calling him sick though. Maybe I did… Hawkshaw did definitely call me a SICK MOTHER######, I remember that.

Here we have those “handles” again… and the name Howie. Pete has turned me into his personal boogeyman. Circles.

What do I do here? Tell Pete he is wrong. Isn’t that exactly what Howie would say? I don’t think Pete is gonna believe anything I say at this point. Which is exactly why I tried to get Pete to handle this off blog… I really did try. Pete seems to want to keep this on the blog… so be it.

Maybe that gives him a chance to deny it’s really him. It’s him though.

Could it be Susie? Of course. Susie is the master at faking screen names and has lots of “handles”. More “handles” than anyone. Yes, anyone.  I think it’s Pete though. I have good reasons to think this.

Could it be DPH? Very doubtful… but I’ll give that it could be any one of these 3. I definitely think they all have their part. A new Three-Headed Monster… awesome.

Oh well I await Sunday’s mornings comment!

 

 

 

 

Hawkshaw In Zero’s World Part 1

Lots of strange things been going on lately. I get a lot of people contacting me about different people on the blog. That is not necessarily strange… but it has started up in a new way lately. Or is it new ways?  Sometimes they are sincere inquiries other times they are just part of someone’s agenda. Man it’s been a while since I talked about people and their agendas… honestly I didn’t want to do it again… but you know how that song goes, “You can’t always get what you want”.  Sometimes it is easy to tell who is in the sincere group and who is in the other group… not always though. I have another post I have been kicking around for a while (that will probably become 2 separate posts… at least)  that will go into the “strange things” much deeper. It deserves mention for this post though. I would explain further but I want to keep this post on the subject at hand…

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Petey Hawkshaw made his first comment on the ZW! O.K. that is not necessarily a factual statement. Although I am pretty sure that is Pete… as I mentioned, lots of strange things going on. Plus just because I don’t think Pete has ever commented here before doesn’t mean he hasn’t… there have been a lot of comments left in the posts of this blog over its 7 year itch… maybe Petey snuck one in before under a different screen name… stranger things have happened. So to recap… if this is really Pete… and he hasn’t commented before under another screen name… Petey Hawkshaw just made his first comment on the ZW!

I have to admit when I read this yesterday morning I was excited. I wanted to reply with a ton of questions… because I have many for Pete. Hawkshaw had a couple of questions himself… one that he threw in with a “BTW” asked who I was. I think it was a question, although there was no question mark and I was under the impression DPH and MM7 asked Pete to look into me long ago… so I just figured Pete knew who I was… curious. The other question (that did actually have a question mark) was rhetorical… I think.

Anyways, I was actually exited to see Hawshaw’s comment and instead of just jumping in with everything his comment brought racing through my head I decided to give it a day before I commented.

When I woke up this morning the first thing I did was go to the blog, ready to reply to Hawkshaw. I was going to simply thank him for his comment and suggest we talk in DM. I have no intention to jump into “back n forth” in the comments. Plus I truly wanted to hear Pete out and explain myself beyond the “chatter” that is out there about me.

Yes, I thought today might be a good day… I was optimistic… that all went to hell the moment I opened up the blog…

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WTF!?!

Is that really Pete?

Sounds like DPH.

Is that DPH?

I have no reason not to believe this is Pete… other than it sounds way too much like DPH. I think it’s really Pete though. Does DPH still work with Pete? Damn, If I was to bet on who might be in Pete’s ear I would bet on Susie… but is it DPH?

This comment that may or may have not come from Pete does not come completely out of left field for me…it does seem to fit in with some of the strange things I mentioned at the beginning of this post.

This new comment that may or may not have come from Pete (I really think it did) changed things a little bit… or did it?

If Pete didn’t write these comments then maybe I should find that out before I just rip into them.

Even if Pete did write this, a private chat could clear up any misunderstandings we may have with each other. You never know who is in someone’s ear.

The question is how to talk to Pete. I don’t like to reach out to people. Despite what some of you think about me, I don’t like to bother people who don’t want to be bothered. Though this could count as Pete contacting me first… if it is Pete (is it?).  Plus even if I try to contact him there is no guarantee he will get back to me.

Damn.

Pete, if you read this, get in touch with me. I think you know my FB. If not you can DM the ZW FB: https://www.facebook.com/zerosworld/

If someone who knows Pete reads this, would you be kind enough to pass the message on? Thank you.

That kind of leaves this post unfinished…

Who knows… maybe there will be a part 2!

 

Cherry Picking Comments

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I notice he only posts comments from other people“. No fucking shit! It’s my blog, get your own blog if you want to post my comments. Yes I cherry pick the stuff that shows what I am trying to show. But they aren’t lies, they are things people really said. Still, if I have to show more to explain exactly how truthful this place can be, I can do that:

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This comment left today by Maureen has got to be some of the most crap anyone has ever tried to shovel into one comment here. I didn’t cherry pick it. I waited for it to fit with some other comments I have cherry picked though. Yes, I had been waiting to address this subject ever since Patty and Maureen first brought it up in Kim’s group. But I was patient and Maureen wrote this masterpiece to frame it around. But not to twist it… oh no… we are gonna untwist this comment.

First though, here I am zero. There are so few rules here, but that is one, so please if you plan on any last replies… ixnay on the ichardra. NEWBIES!

OK, my so-called lies that Maureen called me out on. Maureen didn’t run to Dorothy and Jerry, just to that group… which is what I said, she ran to the group where Dorothy and Jerry were threatening and slandering me. I hope Maureen isn’t saying she didn’t join in with them… because we all saw that happen in real-time.

Let me inform you, because you haven’t Dick, you have been sending PM to Rich Keeys  and Patricia.”  Wow, that’s’ a weird sort of lie to make it sound like I lied about something. Let me explain:

I have all sorts of messages and emails I don’t discuss here. I have said this many times. I’m quite up front that I don’t put everyone’s correspondence up on blast. Some say I do, thank you for proving I’m honest about that. Still that sentence implies I’m sending people messages and saying I’m not, that’s a lie in a lie. I never said I didn’t write these people. And to be honest I only replied to Patsy’s message:

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As you see, Patsy contacted me and I wrote her back. What was your point Maureen?

I did send Rich Keeys a message. We have never met and he is commenting about me like he knows me. So I just introduced myself:

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I wrote him he didn’t reply. Again, not sure of your point here Maureen. Other than your new boyfriend is an internet bully/real life pussy.

So far I don’t know what lies she is talking about. Let’s continue.

The whole part where she want’s me to prove she knows Susie and then asks why “it’s even relevent?” That was all pretty transparent, right?

Now to the meat of Maureen’s complaint. She thinks I should show my sides of conversations. Well, to bad.

Just kidding. If you really want it I’ll give it to ya:

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There does that help? Both sides there. Shows what I said about the conversation was pretty accurate, no?

It did go on an on a bit, but everything I wrote you has been said here on the blog (if they would just read). Still, we can go a little further to erase any future debates:

Scratch that, I changed my mind. I posted the above before it was finished because Maureen couldn’t shut up about me contacting  Patricia and Rich. Which as you can all see, Patsy contacted me and I answered her. I also did introduce myself to Richie (hee hee, I get to use it now) and he declined to write me back. So we covered all that. Happy now Maureen, I was gonna post more of our conversation because you thought it was so important:

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And as soon as I start posting our whole conversation all of a sudden our conversation wasn’t that important after all:

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Exactly what I’ve been saying all along.  A while ago Mari told me she didn’t trust you or Jen G. Then you showed up asking me about Jen G and Spoof phone calls. I didn’t feel comfortable at the time having that conversation in an open group. Though I have posted about it since then:

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2016/12/19/bye-bye-bobo/

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2016/12/30/spoof-phone-calls/

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That right there was what really began our correspondence. We continued the conversation in private where you agreed with me that Dorothy, Hawkshaw, TKAMB, and Jen G were all crazy and have hurt the case. Then Jerry showed up and you ran right for the shit show.

It’s exactly how I have said it is. So what lies is Maureen talking about?

That’s how the back-n-forth works Maureen, after a while you forget how it all started.

That wore me out a little, just a little, lol.

Look, it doesn’t matter, if you want to call me a narcissist and say I stalked ya. Join the other nuts. It’s where ya belong.

I just don’t have the time to keep explaining something you are never gonna get. But it’s all there for those who want to take the time and READ!

 

 

 

Bye Kim!

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Looks like everyone is afraid to write in Kim’s group. SPOILER ALERT! It’s not Kim’s group anymore:

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LOL, I made her famous! That’s one of the first things I said to Flukeyou when he started in on my blog… wrote the words. “I’ll make you famous.”

It’s a line from Young Guns:

Man I love that movie. And that line. I’ve been using it on just about everyone who has come my way in this little internet drama. And if I said it to you, you probably know what Kim is going through right now:

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Ahh… don’t feel bad for Kim and her “woes me”, she has plenty to keep her busy:

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See, like Dorothy, she has some dumb PI to speak with soon. I wonder if it’s same guy. *Waving at Pete Hawkshaw*

LMAO! Here’s one last screen shot for Kim:

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I think they are talking about you Kim. That blog sounds cool. LMFAO!

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The only reasons I keep posting stuff from that stupid group is because they can’t keep from discussing me every chance they get:

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Jerry wants me there, as well as Susie and Flukeyou?!? Sounds like this place. Yea Jerry, there already is a Zero’s World. No need to try to create another one. Besides no one takes the nuts seriously here… that group… well the inmates are running the asylum there. It’s one crazy story (lie) after another. Which is fine, it’s your place now, right Jerry?

LOL, Kim can think she runs it, Jerry can think he runs it, hell, even dumb ass Maureen can think she runs that group, but as long as my name is still being thrown around, I run that place. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

And as we have seen for a few weeks now, they just can’t stop:

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Oh Maureen. That one’s gonna cost you. I am not the nut here. I’m the nut cracker.

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I like that. Some of you might have noticed the difference between the Tags and Categories in this blog. Tags are all the things that appear in that post. But a category is special. And look Maureen you just got added to the Categories List. You are special.

Well, the Super Bowl is starting so I gotta run. But everyone should come back during half-time to see Maureen “witness Karma in it’s full glorious splender”!

Hawkshaw Goes to Court

Before we leave Hawkshaw to stew in his own juices, I want to show you this article:

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ex-l-top-burke-pleads-guilty-assault-obstruction-article-1.2544906

Hawkshaw is in court making sure he spoke to reporters so his “fans” know how involved he is. How the limelight shines on him:

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Man, how many nuts are there involved in all this? James Burke needs to be looked at from all angles to see what kinds of crimes he was involved with, I’m not denying that. But Pete Hawkshaw is going way to far and beyond to prove HE is right and in the end. Even if he is, he could be jeopardizing the truth coming out with the way he goes about things. What none of these nuts seem to realize is that nuts don’t help a case. But hey, maybe I’m missing the importance of being there to call Burke a “cocksucker” to a news reporter or understand how that helps sleuth any case. Again I am still not sure of most of your sleuthing techniques. And if there is still anyone out there that doesn’t see how crazy Hawkshaw is, read this:

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Yep, that’s Pete Hawkshaw saying that if he had his way, if he was given a “license  to kill”, he wouldn’t go after Burke who he says is a serial killer. He wouldn’t go after any of the other corrupt people behind who knows how many crimes. He would gun down the 12 jurors and the alternates from his son-in-laws case.

Let me make this clear. That was written in February of 2016, not even a year ago. His son-in-law did 3 years and has been out of jail for a long time if I am correct on my information (please someone correct me if I’m wrong), And Hawkshaw is still so obsessed with his SIL’s case that he wants to kill innocent people who’s only crime was serving as a jury, something people must do as Americans.

Well, since we all know Hawksahaw is hanging out at Burke’s trial to try to rattle Burke’s nerves. I hope someone keeps an eye on him and keeps him away from any jury just in case they make a decision that Pete doesn’t agree with.

Susie Say So

Do any of you ‘member the screen name that started putting MM7’s mug shot everywhere?  Yea, we ‘member. LOL.

So Susie says a lot of stuff under screen names, but she also has a lot to say under her “Sue Name”. Shall we take a look at some of them? Yes we should:

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If I am seeing this wrong, please someone correct me. But Susie Mockingbird is a big part of the problem. In fact I put her in the top 3 next to Dorothy Price Hill and Joey “Flukeyou”  Junior. And Jen, Cristin, and Candyce, you round out the bottom 3. All 6 of them getting right up into the case. Truthspider and Hawkshaw are dangling from the scrap metal of this ship, with John Ray at the captain’s seat. Some may argue that Mari had a hand in letting some of these nuts get so close to the case, maybe… but John Ray has always been driving… still is.

 

MM7 and Susie

I know this place can be confusing. You should see what it’s like in my head, everything racing around in circles, constantly. So it can be hard to keep things straight when I start typing. Luckily for all of you I love to do recap posts or what we have come to call explanation posts. This is gonna be one of those.

So I’ve blogged about lots of things, but one ongoing thread was to show the connection of some people I used to blog about from LISK.com, but as we have evolved here, we know the truth… it’s a group of Websleuthers. So I have shown how these people got together and well we all can see the outcome.

Once again I need to point out that a lot of ladies reached out to Mari and were part of her Facebook group. It’s important to note that, MM7, Dorothy, Jen, Candyce, and Susie were part of that. At least at one time. I think it should also be noted that they all were kicked to the curb at some point. This happened because they did all work together at some point and then ran back to Mari to rat out the other. They each had to be the one who was helping Mari and the best way to show that was to expose that the others were up to no good. The main story was always someone was writing a book. They each accused the other of admitting they were writing a book. This was an issue quite a bit once books started to be written.  There was also the screen name thing.  And bad talk behind Mari’s back. They liked to snitch on each other. Still do or I couldn’t be writing all this. I call this group of ladies The Exiles… though some of them did get back into Mari’s good graces. It’s important to know this went on, it was part of it. So it all started with…

Truthspider. Well that’s where I’m starting it at least. For what ever reason, Truthspider and Fluke got together on the whole LISK=Hackett campaign. I have heard they know each other through lifeguard stuff maybe. But even if they just met up on Websleuths for the first time it doesn’t matter, because once those 2 started there, a lot set into motion to connect the very wrong people. Now Fluke also had his stuff going at LISK.com and Truthspider would go there as well, but it was Websleuths that started the real connections, and still does from what I see. So Jen G. is on Websleuths, MM7 is there on Florida stuff… and MM7 joins the Hackett campaign. So you have Fluke, MM7, and Truthspider working together behind the scenes and taking their fight to Websleuths. They have resistance especially from PS149. Meanwhile MM7 is also helping Fluke over at LISK.com as well. Too Close To Home is doing their best to combat them there (we are keeping war terms for now since we are in a war with Dorothy, that is how she sees this, so that is how it shall be, TKAMB seems to be another casualty from that war, so I don’t think it’s going to well for that side). There were others that spoke out against them and the whole thing blew up there, resulting in several people being removed from Websleuths.

Jen G. connects to both MM7 and Fluke and they all work together. (What I mean is they all worked together as 3, but also Jen worked with Fluke alone, MM7 worked with Fluke alone, and MM7 and Jen worked alone) Dorothy gets in there too. She works with MM7 quite a bit. QUITE A BIT! Dorothy works with Jen. MM7 starts her blog and it is a place for all the Websleuths fighting to continue since Websluths frowns on it, harshly.  But that three-some breaks up. Jen and Dorothy go at it. Jen tells Mari MM7 is writing a book. MM7 tells Mari things about Jen. There are other connections, Dorothy and Nancy, and somewhere Candyce finds her way in and out of there, and some I still may not see. When there are so many “players” each one capable of creating multiple accounts it’s hard to keep up. But I think I did a good job. I think I got to the core of most of them.

So this group worked together and against each other and created a lot of false narratives. And as you see it still goes on. Hawkshaw Pete and Mocking Bird Sue are still involved in this kind of thing. But what I really want to show with this post is how it all circles back around, that this group all connects together. I want to show you TKAMN/Susie connects right back to this group who started it all… and well that was done before I even started blogging about any of this. It’s right there on MM7’s blog to read anytime:

https://mm7vslisk.wordpress.com/2013/01/31/falling-out/

Yep, I hate to use their own words, like conspiracy, but they have all conspired together, that’s no joke. And the more I look at each one you see how they worked together and yes against each other. But more importantly in my opinion they interfered. And some still are.

Author’s Note: After posting this I realized maybe a graph of sorts would help show this better. So I made this:

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A simple graph for a complicated group of people.

Spoof Phone Calls

“I agree with a lot of your comments, but the calls from hackett to Mari, those calls were traced back to hackett, proving he did call mari several times, although he denied it, until he was pushed into a corner with truth. Hackett sounds delusional to me, from all I’ve heard from Robert, hackett believes his own lies, and what you’re saying as well. Those calls you speak of, spoof calls, all I can say to that is J. G. I’m more than sure you know who I’m referring to. If you know DPH, I’m more than sure you know of JG. The mental state of some people involved is more than one would expect.”

Some of you might have seen this comment left for me on a Facebook LISK discussion page. I never truly answered it because I was working on this post you are reading right now. And this post is gonna cover Hackett, spoof calls, and J.G. So by the end of this post we will understand it better or at least understand why I didn’t answer the above comment (that’s not totally true, I did address the comment which got me into a little public debate with the person who left the comment. I’m not gonna rehash it here and it really isn’t necessary to do so at this point or for the discussion we are about to have.) I just want to say that I myself do not know for sure what calls were traced back to Hackett. I know what has been said and as I will show ya, people like to jump around on both sides of the fence on this one. There are many comments on my blogs like this:

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This is something widely speculated and often misrepresented. Why did Hackett first deny ever calling Mari. What did they talk about? Did Hackett mention a “home for wayward girls”? Did Hackett really tell Mari he met with and tried to help Shannan? What does Mari’s phone records really show? How many calls came from Dr. Hackett? What day was the call or calls made? Yep, I’ve heard from people who claim they have proof of each side. Some say, there is proof Hackett did call Mari before Michael Pak and Alex Diaz went to Oak Beach. Some say the call came after they were there. Some say there was only one call while others say there is proof of 3 calls. Some even say that some of the calls may have been spoofed. All I can tell you is I’ve heard from both sides, seen some of the so-called proof, and I still don’t know. I would figure LE has a better handle on it than me though. I would also think  the evidence that some have been passing around out there for a while now can be seen in its proper context by those actually involved in the case against Dr. Hackett. There and only there can it be sorted out to what is the truth of the phone calls. Those of us relying on bi-polar sleuthers who post things and then yank them right down can only get the picture in bits and pieces. But let’s look at those bits and pieces anyways.

So the comment above said, ” Those calls you speak of, spoof calls, all I can say to that is J. G. I’m more than sure you know who I’m referring to. If you know DPH, I’m more than sure you know of JG.” This is a correct statement even if it is a little too general. Yes, I definitely  know of J.G. and yes spoof call stuff can be chased back to her. In fact I think it was J.G. who first brought up spoof calls to me. But they weren’t the last. So I don’t want to lay that blame entirely at Jen’s feet (Jen is J.G. if I haven’t made that apparent yet). As we will see by the end of this post there are others out there who think spoof calls are a part of this whole thing.

But first I have to get to a question I have heard a lot lately, especially after that comment about spoof calls and J.G. That question is: Who is J.G.? I can understand that. She’s been quiet for a while now. But that don’t mean she ain’t out there, still part of the big bang. So let me give you a quick Jen refresher. Jennifer G. is a cab driver in Long Island who became part of Mari’s so-called “secret” Facebook page. This group included the likes of Cristin (MM7), Dorothy Price Hill, Susie S., Candyce B.A., and other lonely ladies lacking both in the common sense department and mental stability. Jennifer befriended both Dorothy and Cristin. Jennifer actually spent time with Dorothy, going to her house on at least one occasion. Jen would then meet up with Mari and others at the vigils and Oak beach marches that would often end at the Scalise house. Jen actually befriended the Scalise’s. That was how this group came about. Jen was the connection between Dorothy, Cristin, and Joe Scalise Jr. They all worked together at some point, but Jen was the piece closely connected. Cristin says more than anyone else in the group , it was Jen that tried to convince her (Cristin)  that Hackett was stalking her. Both Dorothy and Jen claim the other called CPS on each other. Yea, their friendship went bad fast. And even though it is said that Jen is still friends with the Scalise family, Jen says she is convinced Fluke is LISK… or in Fluke equations, Flukeyou=LISK. Jen claims Joe Jr. also tried to get her to sell pot for him. That;s not important, but I like putting stuff people said about Fluke out there, I think you can all understand why.  So Yes, spoof calls were brought up a lot by Jen. I can show you countless e-mails from her trying to explain them to me, but this is better:

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That’s Jen if you didn’t know (there I go rule breaking again). So you can see this stuff does get talked about on Websleuths, and yes once again Jen is there pushing it. I don’t deny Jen pushes the spoof call angle. But where did it come from? Fluke? Websleuths? Is it something LE or others are seriously looking into? I don’t know. Well, I know some others seem to be on the subject.

Before I shock everyone (well maybe not everyone) I need to talk about  Mari’s phone records that TKAMB has been passing around. I would really like to post it here, because it would help understand some of what we are about to hear (yes hear). But I don’t know if that’s wise. I’m guessing it’s evidence and isn’t supposed to passed around like TKAMB is doing nor is it supposed to be posted in blogs (like MM7 did with other court room documents). Still I really wish I could, because it does help. It’s out there though, find it, read it, see if it helps sort through the truth of the calls from Hackett or if there was any spoof calls.

Alright let me get to the point, so you all understand what I’m talking about.

I know some of you just don’t see how big of a deal it is that internet sleuths (like the types who flock to Websleuths) are part of a growing nut gathering. People who see themselves as both victims and the only one who can save the day. People throw the word narcissist around. and long time readers know I feel we all have a bit of narcissist in us, social media feeds that beast in us. We all want attention (last time I said this, it rubbed people wrong. Don’t read too much into it. I’m not saying we are all Dorothy, but we live in the 15 minutes of fame world). Still, most of us have balance of some sort. We like to give as well as receive if you know what I mean. I think one of the very first things I posted back on the Red & Black blog, was “true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing”. I live by that. Others don’t get it at all. They think they know it all. And the really bad ones think the rest of us are the ones that just can’t see the truth. Now this is a general statement that covers a lot of territory online.  And you either get what I mean or you don’t. I’m sorry if you are on the side that don’t, but I can’t make you see it. Trust me, you have to come to it on your own. Alright, enough “Red & Black”, let me explain where this less general and more zeroed in.

So what I am trying to say about Websleuths, and particularly those I have encountered on it… they think they are the one who get’s it and the others are not. But they talk in private share ideas and rumors and then use it against each other. I’ve said this, right? They make up multiple screen names on social media and Websleuths accounts. Which I wonder why that is allowed. Maybe people find a way around it, but somehow people are able to have more than one account there and fuck with each other. Yes, they fuck with each other. They sleuth each other, they tell others what they have done together only if it makes someone else look dirty. They also get way involved in the case fucking with people who are part of the investigation and court cases. That place is a mess. And I know a lot of you are not gonna agree with me. Again, I get that it does good… I get that most people there are not crazy or trying to fuck with people. I’m not condemning it anymore than I’m condemning the internet… but even if I know nothing, I know that you get bad with the good. And you know what they say about “one bad apple”.

Alright, I put this off long enough… to make my point let me give you a hypothetical that really happened:

What if the discussion of spoof calls was out there more than you might realize? What if some people though Mari’s phone records even proved spoof calls? What if to prove it could happen, TKAMB spoof called Hawksaw  using Hacketts phone number? That would be something, right? And what if Hawkshaw called Hacketts number back to see who had called him? Let’s say Hawshaw didn’t get an answer, so he hung up. But then a little while later Hackett called Hawkshaw back asking why he called, and of course Hawkshaw would say, “I didn’t call you, you called me”. What kind of confusion would that cause? And what if TKAMB found the whole thing hilarious? OK, I kind of understand that, the whole thing is so ridicules that it is funny. But if something like that did happen, as funny as it is, it’s also messed up. And it would show just how these things go on with the Websleuthers. I know most of you are thinking, no way this really happened. But it did. And not to long ago. The only reason I know about it, is because like MM7, TKAMB like to tape her phone calls and then pass them around. That also proves what I have been saying about how a lot of these nuts use the same exact tactics. But I’ve said enough, hear for yourself. I’m sure we will have a lot to talk about after wards:

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I told you it really happened!

Lots to discuse here, I know, but let’s start with this. Listening to these to talk was as bad as listening to the Flukeyou/MM7 calls. Sorry, but these are your great sleuths with so much information? Please.

So Hawkshaw starts off saying he figured it was a spoof call, so I’m guessing stuff like this has happened before. OK I’m not guessing, I know it has. And I know Websleuths and other places have talked about it at some point.

Next… damn, TKAMB cracks herself up. I like how Hawshaw asks what the point was. I don’t know if he ever really got it. Do you see that neither of them care about bothering Hackett even though they seem to both think he has nothing to do with LISK? That’s how so many from Websleuths work… get your ideas across no matter who you have to fuck with.

I love how this shows exactly what I have been saying, email sharing, phone calls…  interfering more than actually helping.

Much more here, but TKAMB calling the Gilberts liars… can’t let that go by with out a mention. That’s  how it works, friends some places, stab in the back behind public posts. In fact I bet TKAMB describes this conversation with Hawshaw much definitely then how it is. It seems very friendly, but I bet she sees it as Hawkshaw being another idiot way beneath her who just can’t see what she does. In fact I know she does.

Love how they don’t want to really be involved… damn if that ain’t funny.

This is just part of the big picture of how Websleuthers fuck with each other and therefore the cases they are sleuthing also get fucked with… and I find the whole thing fucked.

What this proves to me most of all, that these 2 people who claim to know the truth, who claim to see what others don’t, they don’t really know anything either. It’s Hackett, It’s Burke, it’s Pak.

It’s a game to these people. They are caught up in being right and knowing more than their sleuthing peers. And they fuck with each other… oh yes they fuck with each other.

Let’s Get Down To Bussiness

“Let’s get down to business
I don’t got no time to play around what is this?
Must be a circus in town, let’s shut the shit down
On these clowns, can I get a witness?”

Oh no, he’s quoting Eminem lyrics, this isn’t gonna be good. Shall we get started?

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I have posted this e-mail before (Dorothy often began her e-mails with “DO NOT POST THIS ON YOU BLOG”, and I just get a kick out of posting them, in fact Dorothy I may put all your e-mails in a book someday… pipe, smoke it, you know the drill Dottie) and I have gone over how most of these names meant nothing to me back then, but with hindsight, you can see it all at work.

I’m not gonna get into all of that old stuff again. But you are all welcome to read through the e-mail and get what you want out of it, there is plenty to discuss there (and like I said we have discussed a lot of it already). I want to focus on one line from that name dropping masterpiece:

“Cristin also had me meet former NYPD Pete Fiorello. He knows ALOT about corruption in Suffolk County.”

This is where we are gonna start.

At the time I had no idea who Pete  was. And there were so many names. But this one would come up again and again. Dorothy said he was a detective she worked with and she mentions him a lot. From what I  know (and I know a lot) Pete worked with Dorothy and Cristin… so that already is a bad start. So working with Dorothy… strike 1.

As I looked more in to this Pete guy I saw that he was once indeed a cop, I started wondering if he was PS149… he isn’t. The more I looked into him I realized he was another one of these nuts who is obsessed with their LISK POI. I mean Fluke has nothing on Pete. POI obsession… strike 2.

But then Cristin brought the ex cop up to me back when Dorothy started doxing me. LOL, well Dorothy tried anyways, but she never believed any of the real stuff about me, not when the stuff she made up was so much better for her delusional agenda. Still, Cristin had called me, wanting to ensure me she did not pass any info about me on to Dorothy. I wasn’t too upset, I had let plenty enough personal info of me slip through, that it wasn’t to hard for anyone to figure out who I was. Shit, it only took Son Of Man a few hours once he started looking. I wanted people to know I was just who I said I was… it made it easier to see through Dorothy’s tangled web of what I have always called, Dorothy Dog Shit. I’m getting off track… let me jump back on… So Cristin said she didn’t think Dorothy found anything on her own. Even though I said to her all I just wrote here, she still didn’t think Dorothy could have figured it out by herself. Cristin then mentioned a detective that Dorothy worked with… guess who? Yep… Petey!  Since then Dorothy herself had mentioned Pete helped her with putting together some kind of dossier on me that she has turned into the FBI. LMFAO! So it seems like this Pete guy, this ex cop, wannabe detective, looked into me for the queen nut troll herself, Dorothy Price Hill. That’s a big strike 3!

But Dorothy says in the e-mail above that it was Cristin who introduced Pete to her. So how much did Cristin work with Pete? And although Cristin insisted she never discussed me with Dorothy, there are many places where Dorothy has said they looked up things on me together. And I’m pretty sure they did. Some of my friends that Dorothy went after in comments I know came from stuff Cristin looked up (‘Member Tattoo Mike? Yea, I member).

So for a while now I have been keeping Pete on the back burner, seeing where he stood in all this and why he would work with a nut like Dorothy. So far I have not met one credible person who worked with Dorothy. Remember that list includes, Jen, Fluke, and MM7. Well, Pete, it’s time to come off that back burner. Welcome to the blog!

It will be nice to have someone new to write about, I know everyone is tired of Fluke and Dorothy. I have covered that side of it in quite detail. It’s time to take a look at the other side… the side that followed that group of nuts from Websleuths to LISK.com to Catching LISK and finally to my blogs, where they would all scatter. We can’t discus that side without bringing up NERD or PS149. And right here I did bring them up. I had a few things posted here that I had figured out. Some of it was wrong, but enough of it was dead on. Since this post has been sitting around all year this is part that I decided to take out since NERD contacted me  a few weeks back and came clean. Yea, lots of what I had written here was right on. Thank you to those who helped me along the way. NERD, I wanted desperately to know who you were. Now I do, so there is no need to go on any more about this. I’ll just say PS149 is not Hackett, as if I even have to say that, lol. I really don’t think it matters much to anyone, other than MM7, I think I was the only one concerned with who NERD was. And that was mainly because I thought they could be some help figuring out some of the Websleuthers involved in the game aspect of this. All in all  the stuff we talked about leads right to where I knew it all really began. Websleuths! And that’s just where this post went next:

When I first started blogging about LISK.com, people told me I should check out Websleuths. They said that’s where Fluke and MM7’s games really started. From there, feelings on Websleuths were mixed. Some said it was just as bad as LISK.com with  clicky commenters who pounce on ya if you ain’t part of their group. They said it was full of self-righteous trolls  and so-called insiders playing all three sides of the coin (front, back, and the circular rim). While others told me that Websleuths was full of good people just trying to help and that it’s moderators do their best keeping out the trolls. Both sides were right. Although it would be a while before I would finally check out Websleuths and see this for myself. You see at the time there had been some issues at Websleuths. There was an inner fight between the sites owners. As well as an issue with some of its sleuths sleuthing each other, which resulted in a handful of them (including Flukeyou and MM7) being kicked off the site. The site also went through some operational changes making it only possible to read on the site if you made an account for it. Just knowing that much about it kept me away. I had enough dealing with the screen names of LISK.com and Catching LISK, I had no intentions of going through countless more on another site.

I would eventually make a Websleuths account though. And yes, there are some good people there and yes some of the moderators try to keep the troll games away. But it’s no different from any other place on the internet and has seemed to fall way to catfish and sock puppets. I know a lot of you are gonna argue with me on this point. Tell me that Websleuths has helped solve cases, identify Johns and Janes, and gives arm-chair detectives a chance to get together and help. All very true, but doesn’t change what I just said about it. Let me remind you… Jennifer G. is on Websleuths. Flukeyou was on Websleuths, where he made such a mess they kicked him off. Cristin and Candyce were on Websleuths, were kicked off, but they both told me they just made new accounts and got back on. So this is the types of sleuths setting the stage for its threads. And although I have really only checked out the LISK threads, I am told this kind of stuff goes on in other threads as well.

And before you try to say that’s just a small handful who were quickly kicked out (and then went right back in), let me move on with this post and get to the good stuff. The Websleuthers who may have connections to Dorothy. They may have been some of those screen names that followed over to Cristin’s blog, because it had a few Websleuthers there, that I’m sure of. They are definitely candidates for the nut gallery. And they are definitely playing the same types of games as Dorothy, Joe Jr, Jen, and Cristin.

Let’s start with To Kill A Mockingbird, aka kitty katy, aka Alice Cooper aka Oak Beach, aka Chris Lovejoy, and countless other screen names. You don’t know how long I have been wanting to deal with you. You seem more bi-polar than anyone I know involved in this, and let’s not forget, we had the likes of Nancy, Son Of Man, and Dorothy Price Hill. You outshine them all!  And it’s not just the multiple screen names you use all over social media. One minute you are helping John Ray and the next you are trashing him. You claim you were friends with Mari but you call the Gilberts liars. You claim to have all sorts of inside information that can prove what really happened to Shannan, but every time you put something up, you quickly yank it down. You go around telling everybody how wrong they are, but what have you done? You say you’ve done so much and I agree. You’ve done plenty to fuck with people. Well, we are about to get way up in your shit sweetie. I’m pretty sure you saw it coming though. I definitely have left some clues. Welcome to the blog TKAMB!

Now most of you don’t know this, but TKAMB sometimes works with another Websleuths member you know as Hawkshaw. They make quite the dynamic duel. Hawkshaw, I’d welcome you to the blog, but I already did that up above.

Who else? Hoot Owl? Yea, what’s your connection to Dorothy? Or is it TKAMB? I can’t shake the feeling you are one of them or know one of them… You definitely like to play games like one of them. Why? Feel free to answer anytime. Oh, and welcome to the blog! Though I have a feeling I also already welcomed you above.

That leaves us with MCME. I have been watching you for a while. You claim to be an Oak Beach insider… and that may just be true. All the more reason for me to keep my eye on you. A few names have come up on who you might be (It’s great how you all sleuth each other, it makes it so much easier for me). One of those names is a familiar one and keeps coming up. I’m not gonna drop it though… I’m trying hard not to be a name dropper like Dorothy up there in that email. Besides when you let enough time pass, most of you out yourselves or one of your buddies do it for ya. MCME, you have said (wrote) a few things over the years that have me wondering about you. Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t it you who said you walked your dog in the marsh where Shannan would later be found? Didn’t you say she wasn’t there? I find these comments hard to believe. And if I’m right and you did make those comments, well that just makes me wonder if you are connected to any of these other nuts. If I am remembering wrong and you did not make those comments, please let me know, I don’t want to be putting out wrong information. Either way, welcome to the blog!

As I sit here reading over this post and coming up with some clever way to end it, something like I’m here to remind you that bullshit does not pay (it’s from the Eminem song above, don’t tell me you didn’t listen to it, go, listen to it) Anyways, as I sit here looking at this post I know that once I hit the “Publish” button I am opening up a whole new can of worms. Heading deeper into that rabbit hole. Peeling another layer off that onion.

I’m my own worst enemy.