Cherry Picking Comments

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I notice he only posts comments from other people“. No fucking shit! It’s my blog, get your own blog if you want to post my comments. Yes I cherry pick the stuff that shows what I am trying to show. But they aren’t lies, they are things people really said. Still, if I have to show more to explain exactly how truthful this place can be, I can do that:

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This comment left today by Maureen has got to be some of the most crap anyone has ever tried to shovel into one comment here. I didn’t cherry pick it. I waited for it to fit with some other comments I have cherry picked though. Yes, I had been waiting to address this subject ever since Patty and Maureen first brought it up in Kim’s group. But I was patient and Maureen wrote this masterpiece to frame it around. But not to twist it… oh no… we are gonna untwist this comment.

First though, here I am zero. There are so few rules here, but that is one, so please if you plan on any last replies… ixnay on the ichardra. NEWBIES!

OK, my so-called lies that Maureen called me out on. Maureen didn’t run to Dorothy and Jerry, just to that group… which is what I said, she ran to the group where Dorothy and Jerry were threatening and slandering me. I hope Maureen isn’t saying she didn’t join in with them… because we all saw that happen in real-time.

Let me inform you, because you haven’t Dick, you have been sending PM to Rich Keeys  and Patricia.”  Wow, that’s’ a weird sort of lie to make it sound like I lied about something. Let me explain:

I have all sorts of messages and emails I don’t discuss here. I have said this many times. I’m quite up front that I don’t put everyone’s correspondence up on blast. Some say I do, thank you for proving I’m honest about that. Still that sentence implies I’m sending people messages and saying I’m not, that’s a lie in a lie. I never said I didn’t write these people. And to be honest I only replied to Patsy’s message:

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As you see, Patsy contacted me and I wrote her back. What was your point Maureen?

I did send Rich Keeys a message. We have never met and he is commenting about me like he knows me. So I just introduced myself:

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I wrote him he didn’t reply. Again, not sure of your point here Maureen. Other than your new boyfriend is an internet bully/real life pussy.

So far I don’t know what lies she is talking about. Let’s continue.

The whole part where she want’s me to prove she knows Susie and then asks why “it’s even relevent?” That was all pretty transparent, right?

Now to the meat of Maureen’s complaint. She thinks I should show my sides of conversations. Well, to bad.

Just kidding. If you really want it I’ll give it to ya:

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There does that help? Both sides there. Shows what I said about the conversation was pretty accurate, no?

It did go on an on a bit, but everything I wrote you has been said here on the blog (if they would just read). Still, we can go a little further to erase any future debates:

Scratch that, I changed my mind. I posted the above before it was finished because Maureen couldn’t shut up about me contacting  Patricia and Rich. Which as you can all see, Patsy contacted me and I answered her. I also did introduce myself to Richie (hee hee, I get to use it now) and he declined to write me back. So we covered all that. Happy now Maureen, I was gonna post more of our conversation because you thought it was so important:

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And as soon as I start posting our whole conversation all of a sudden our conversation wasn’t that important after all:

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Exactly what I’ve been saying all along.  A while ago Mari told me she didn’t trust you or Jen G. Then you showed up asking me about Jen G and Spoof phone calls. I didn’t feel comfortable at the time having that conversation in an open group. Though I have posted about it since then:

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2016/12/19/bye-bye-bobo/

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2016/12/30/spoof-phone-calls/

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That right there was what really began our correspondence. We continued the conversation in private where you agreed with me that Dorothy, Hawkshaw, TKAMB, and Jen G were all crazy and have hurt the case. Then Jerry showed up and you ran right for the shit show.

It’s exactly how I have said it is. So what lies is Maureen talking about?

That’s how the back-n-forth works Maureen, after a while you forget how it all started.

That wore me out a little, just a little, lol.

Look, it doesn’t matter, if you want to call me a narcissist and say I stalked ya. Join the other nuts. It’s where ya belong.

I just don’t have the time to keep explaining something you are never gonna get. But it’s all there for those who want to take the time and READ!

 

 

 

Bye Kim!

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Looks like everyone is afraid to write in Kim’s group. SPOILER ALERT! It’s not Kim’s group anymore:

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LOL, I made her famous! That’s one of the first things I said to Flukeyou when he started in on my blog… wrote the words. “I’ll make you famous.”

It’s a line from Young Guns:

Man I love that movie. And that line. I’ve been using it on just about everyone who has come my way in this little internet drama. And if I said it to you, you probably know what Kim is going through right now:

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Ahh… don’t feel bad for Kim and her “woes me”, she has plenty to keep her busy:

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See, like Dorothy, she has some dumb PI to speak with soon. I wonder if it’s same guy. *Waving at Pete Hawkshaw*

LMAO! Here’s one last screen shot for Kim:

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I think they are talking about you Kim. That blog sounds cool. LMFAO!

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The only reasons I keep posting stuff from that stupid group is because they can’t keep from discussing me every chance they get:

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Jerry wants me there, as well as Susie and Flukeyou?!? Sounds like this place. Yea Jerry, there already is a Zero’s World. No need to try to create another one. Besides no one takes the nuts seriously here… that group… well the inmates are running the asylum there. It’s one crazy story (lie) after another. Which is fine, it’s your place now, right Jerry?

LOL, Kim can think she runs it, Jerry can think he runs it, hell, even dumb ass Maureen can think she runs that group, but as long as my name is still being thrown around, I run that place. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

And as we have seen for a few weeks now, they just can’t stop:

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Oh Maureen. That one’s gonna cost you. I am not the nut here. I’m the nut cracker.

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I like that. Some of you might have noticed the difference between the Tags and Categories in this blog. Tags are all the things that appear in that post. But a category is special. And look Maureen you just got added to the Categories List. You are special.

Well, the Super Bowl is starting so I gotta run. But everyone should come back during half-time to see Maureen “witness Karma in it’s full glorious splender”!

Hawkshaw Goes to Court

Before we leave Hawkshaw to stew in his own juices i want to show you this article:

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ex-l-top-burke-pleads-guilty-assault-obstruction-article-1.2544906

Hawkshaw is in court making sure he spoke to reporters so his “fans” know how involved he is. how the limelight shines on him:

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Man, how many nuts are there involved in all this? James Burke needs to be looked at from all angles to see what kinds of crimes he was involved with, I’m not denying that. But Pete Hawkshaw is going way to far and beyond to prove HE is right and in the end even if he is he could be jeopardizing the truth coming out with the way he goes about things. What none of these nuts seem to realize is that nuts don’t help a case. But hey, maybe I’m missing the importance of being there to call Burke a “cocksucker” to a news reporter helps sleuth any case. Again I am still not sure of most not your sleuthing techniques. And if there is still anyone out there that doesn’t see how crazy Hawkshaw is, read this:

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Yep, that’s Pete Hawkshaw saying that if he had his way, if he was given a “license  to kill”, he wouldn’t go after Burke who he say’s is a serial killer. He wouldn’t go after any of the other corrupt people behind who knows how many crimes. He would gun down the 12 jurors and the alternates from his son-in-laws case.

Let me make this clear. That was written in February of 2016, not even a year ago. His son-in-law did 3 years and has been out of jail for a long time if I am correct on my information (please someone correct me if I’m wrong), And Hawkshaw is still so obsessed with his SIL’s case that he wants to kill innocent people who’s only crime was serving as a jury, something people must do as Americans.

Well, since we all know Hawksahaw is hanging out at Burke’s trial to try to rattle Burke’s nerves. I hope someone keeps an eye on him and keeps him away from any jury just in case they make a decision that Pete doesn’t agree with.

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So now that you know, let’s take a closer look at Hawkshaw:

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Still get a kick from his new avatar. So if you didn’t already figure it out (and I’m pretty sure everyone has), Hawkshaw is Dorothy and Susie’s detective friend Pete F. Pete was once a cop and because of that he has become quite the little insider at Websleuths. Now I know some of you like Hawkshaw, (some like TKAMB just pretend to like him), but that maybe because you don’t know much about his other screen name Petefio. We will get to Petefio in a moment and maybe you might like Hawkshaw a little less… maybe.

First I want to get right to what I think is the root of why I believe Hawkshaw is not someone who should be so wrapped up in the LISK case. It’s comments like this:

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You see to me comments like this make me think Hawkshaw doesn’t care who LISK really is, he just wants to see Burke go down for it. He doesn’t care if anyone make the evidence”fit”, because Hawkshaw feels Burke has made evidence “fit” for so many others. And this is a feeling Hawkshaw has had for a very long time. Well maybe not as long as he has thought Spota was doing it. It wasn’t till Pete started hearing word that Burke was going down that Pete started in on James Burke. But Spota, Pete has been after him for a long time. Most of you probably know right where that started. Now I’m sure Pete (Hawkshaw) knows all about “bad” cops from his time as a cop himself, but Pete’s obsession with Spota really started after Pete was retired. As a detective Pete worked on  what he calls the SIL case. SIL stands for Son In Law. It seems Pete’s son-in-law (who also was a cop) got arrested for burglary and Pete felt he was set up:

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LOL, “he thinks he knows”, yea, Pete is a riot, as we are about to see. but first we really need to understand this SIL stuff. You see Pete worked as a Detective on it using his knowledge of LE due to his time as on the force. But to me this already shows where Pete steps on the lines to get where he wants to go. I get he wanted to help out his daughter’s husband, but him being the father-in-law and an ex-cop well, it leads to bias, in my opinion. The strange part is that even though Pete says his SIL was set up, sometimes I’m not so sure he feels this way:

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And I don’t think he cared:

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This is what I mean. Pete doesn’t seem to care about truth. There are to many biased feelings involved. Before we go on, you should hear from Pete all about what happened to his SIL:

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He leaves a much shorter version on Websleuths:

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But here is probably his fullest version of the whole story:

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There’s a lot there. I’m not even gonna waste time picking through it here to make a judgment on whether or not the SIL was set up. All we need to know, is Pete believes it. And Pete has been getting into it with others online over these subjects for at least a decade now:

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And it goes on and on and on. Pete aka Petefio aka Hawkshaw makes sure to hit up anywhere and everywhere:

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I put there because Pete actually includes Nancy’s son in his list of criminals.

Look Pete Hawkshaw has been talking for years. About his SIL, about Spota, about Burke, about the LISK case… in fact Pete goes on and on about all sorts of stuff. And some of the things he has said are pretty messed up, we will get to some of his worst in just a minute, but first I want to take a look at 3 of Pete’s different subjects that I found interesting. First is about David Bianco and the subject of cops that kill:

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Just a couple of things here. Pete points out cops can be killers and even super detective Hawkshaw can’t tell the good ones from the killers. Also Pete has a peculiar way of using the initials BJ. This next thread is about Pete being a “victim”:

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I’m not even sure what all that means… but Pete says he was a victim and Pete should know. The last subject I’m putting up is Vegas:

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So Pete likes to gamble. And he seems to prefer Vegas to Atlantic City. Well we will have to get to gether next time you are in town Pete. Oh, and I agree, I hate those tickets.

So, Pete is obsessed with Spota, Burke, and busting Long Island LE. We all see that right? But that doesn’t mean Burke ain’t a dirty cop. He is. And maybe Burke is connected to LISK in some way. If so, I think it should come out soon. My point is that Hawkshaw is obsessed and is looking for what he wants to find. And that seems to be what most people involved in the LISK case are doing. People want to prove Hackett did it. Others want to prove Hackett is innocent. People want to prove Burke did it. Others want to prove other wise. Everyone gets lost in what they want to prove or disprove and forget the object should be finding out what really happened.

But you all can make your own judgement on Pete Hawkshaw. But let me point out he has worked with both Dorothy Price Hill and Susie S. That’s enough for me! Still just to help tip that scale let’s take a look at Pete’s most questionable comments (aren’t ya glad you looked into me for DPH Petey?):

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WTF? Did Pete just say his cousin was a serial killer? Damn.

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That one’s just creepy!

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Pete using the term blumpkins! Gross! Flukeyou used “blumpkins” in one of his comments before. If you still haven’t googled it please do. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that Pete would use such a term, his humor is … well off:

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If you think those are bad, look at this:

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Yes, that one tells us all we need to know about Pete. Wal-marts, LMFAO!

Still say I’m wrong about old Hawkshaw? Well then you might like to hang out with him at Thee Rant:

http://theerant.yuku.com/topic/9432/I-GOT-PULLED-OVER-IN-SUFFOLK-YESTERDAY?page=1

It’s a place for ex-cops like Pete. And as you can see from this reply to Pete’s Wal-marts adventure, there are people just like Pete there:

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But put all this nuttiness aside and the main thing about Pete that worries me is how involved  he gets:

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I mean he gets way up in there like the other nuts and then he says things like this:

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Or this:

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And worse… something like this:

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Remember that? I do. Then you see something like this:

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Just one question. Why is anyone taking him seriously? And look, 9 years ago Pete talks about how he somehow fucked up the Zodiac and Son Of Sam case:

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Hawkshaw has been everywhere and I’ve gone on quite enough about him for now. I just wanted to get it all out at once so we can continue moving on. Before we go, let’s go way back and see what Pete was like almost 20 years ago:

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It sure does seem like Pete was a little worried about Mayor Koch being gay. That’s funny to me, because I know some people make this a big deal:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/01/ed-koch-gay-lgbt-community-nyc-mayor_n_2600891.html

I get it, Pete thinks Koch was gay because he passed legislation that benefited the LGBTQ community. and that bothered him. Pete is worried a gay guy might try to pick him up. Gross! Fuck Hawkshaw! There, I said it. I’m done.

I’ll leave you all with Pete’s own words. I’m sure he won’t get the irony in them but I bet most of my readers will:

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Jerry Hall-ech!

Alright, time to crack another nut:

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Holly shit, new background pic! That reminds me, Hawkshaw changed his avatar pic not to long ago:

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Wait a minute… take a look at my Facebook pic:

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LMFAO! They all want to be me.

Alright so I hear  this Jerry guy is telling people I contacted him. Fucking nut. Why do that to yourself? I didn’t even give a shit about you. You were under my radar, just some fake screen name trying to milk people for what they know. Yea, I saw your posts:

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They were everywhere:

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Plus people were talking about you. Yep… you start playing, people start talking… without it I blog about Trump, it’s a simple as that.

So I heard about Jerry and I was glad I hadn’t heard from him. From all I heard I figured he was another nut. But like all the other nuts, Jerry went and got himself all wrapped up in the LISK case. And someone put him in my direction. Thanks a lot. LOL, actually I’m very happy Jerry wrote me. But let’s clear up his little lie, I did not contact him, he contacted me and told me to contact him:

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And then there was a ton of other shit. Pictures and screen shots of conversations. TONS of it! And all before I had even seen he messaged me, let alone answered him. Yep, fucking nut. But none of this is new to anyone… I just posted about what that other nut Plottmaster wrote back in October of last year:

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2017/01/09/plottmasteram/

Fuck you Jerry! You are a nut! And quite the little stalker, huh? Plus like so many I encounter in the LISK world, you got a touch of the “bi-polar excuse”, dontcha? You write “please don’t share” and then in the very next thing you wrote, you said, “destroy this bastard”. I know you want me to do your dirty work… but there’s a lot more going on here… I get that. So let’s go slow, alright.

Jerry is persistent, all the nuts are. He even got some “friend” to contact me:

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And this guy again, not waiting for a reply, sent me a ton of screen shots. Is Jerry for real? I don’t think he is. In fact he told me his Jerry Hallech name was fake… duh. But not very original, huh? It sounds a lot like Jamie Hall. That’s your real name, huh Jerry?  Or is Jaime not even the final stop in your list of aliases? I know this one was you:

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The Joker? LMFAO… nope just a joke. I like how you use the same Initials in all your fake screen names. 3 names all with the initials J.H.: Jerry Hallech, Jackson Hope, and Jaime Hall. Which is why I am unsure about this guy:

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See… the initials aren’t J.H. Is this you Jaime? Or did you really get some dumb friend to send me a bunch of screen shots of a conversation between you and…

Yea, not so fast. We are taking this slow. I don’t want any of the attention to be pulled away from Jerry Jamie Hope (LMFAO, you’d think by now someone would read my blog before getting stupid with me). This Hayden Lufkin looks like a pretty real account too. And the pictures on the account are not Jamie (yes Jaime, I have seen a picture of you). Damn, I really think Jamie got his dumb friend right in the middle of this:

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Man, each new one gets dumber than the last one. Jaime, you got your buddy right into the center of  the shit you stepped in. Why, man, why? But then again why would you go around telling people I contacted you and that we are working together? Fucking dope.

Look he just liked the last post:

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Oh shit, is that funny. He didn’t know this was coming I guess. I thought the song and “Joker” reference would be good enough clues, but Jerry Jamie Hope is not playing with a full deck (are any of these nuts?). So stay away from him. And Jerry, stop being such a creepy little stalker.

Alright where to next?

Susie Say So

Do any of you ‘member the screen name that started putting MM7’s mug shot everywhere?  Yea, we ‘member. LOL.

So Susie says a lot of stuff under screen names, but she also has a lot to say under her “Sue Name”. Shall we take a look at some of them? Yes we should:

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If I am seeing this wrong, please someone correct me. But Susie Mockingbird is a big part of the problem. In fact I put her in the top 3 next to Dorothy Price Hill and Joey “Flukeyou”  Junior. And Jen, Cristin, and Candyce, you round out the bottom 3. All 6 of them getting right up into the case. Truthspider and Hawkshaw are dangling from the scrap metal of this ship, with John Ray at the captain’s seat. Some may argue that Mari had a hand in letting some of these nuts get so close to the case, maybe… but John Ray has always been driving… still is.

 

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I know this place can be confusing. You should see what it’s like in my head, everything racing around in circles, constantly. So it can be hard to keep things straight when I start typing. Luckily for all of you I love to do recap posts or what we have come to call explanation pots. This is gonna be one of those.

So I’ve blogged about lots of things, but one ongoing thread was to show the connection of some people I used to say from LISK.com, but as we have evolved here we know the truth, it’s a group of Websleuthers. So I have shown how these people got together and well we all can see the outcome.

Once again I need to point out that a lot of ladies reached out to Mari and were part of her Facebook group. It’s important to note that, MM7, Dorothy, Jen, Candyce, and Susie were part of that. At least at one time. I think it should also be noted that they all were kicked to the curb at some point. This happened because they did all work together at some point and then run back to Mari and rat out the other. They each had to be the one who was helping Mari and the best way to show that was to expose who the others were up to no good. The main story was always someone was writing a book. This was an issue quite a bit once books started be written.  There was also the screen name thing.  And bad talk behind Mari’s back. They liked to snitch on each other. Still do or I couldn’t be writing all this. I call this group of ladies The Exiles… though some of them did get back into Mari’s good graces. It’s important to know this went on, it was part of it. So it all started with…

Truthspider. Well that’s where I’m starting it at least. For what ever reason, Truthspider and Fluke got together on the whole LISK=Hackett campaign. I have heard they know each other through lifeguard stuff maybe. But even if they just met up on Websleuths for the first time it dosen.t matter, because once those 2 started there, a lot set into motion to connect the very wrong people. Now Fluke also had his stuff going at LISK.com and Truthspider would go there as well, but it was Websleuths that started the real connections, and still does from what I see. So Jen is on Websleuths, MM7 is there on Florida stuff… and MM7 joins the Hackett campaign. So you have Fluke, MM7, and Truthspider working together behind the scenes and taking their fight to Websleuths. They have resistance especially from PS149. Meanwhile MM7 is also helping Fluke over at LISK.com as well. Too Close To Home is doing their best to combat them there (we are keeping war terms for now since we are in a war with Dorothy, that is how she sees this, so that is how it shall be, TKAMB seems to be another casualty from that war, so i don’t think it’s going to well for that side). There were others that spoke out against them and the whole thing blew up there, resulting in several people being removed from Websleuths.

Jen connects to both MM7 and Fluke and they all work together. (What I mean is they all worked together as 3, but also Jen worked with Fluke alone, MM7 worked with Fluke alone, and MM7 and Jen worked alone) Dorothy get’s in there to. She works with MM7 quite a bit. QUITE A BIT! Dorothy works with Jen. MM7 starts her blog and it is a place for all the Websleuths fighting to continue since Websluths frowns on it, harshly.  But that threesome breaks up. Jen and Dorothy go at it. Jen tells Mari MM7 is writing a book. MM7 tells Mari things about Jen. There are other connections, Dorothy and Nancy, and somewhere Candyce finds her way in and out of there, and some I still may not see. When there are so many “players” each one capable of creating multiple accounts it’s hard to keep up. But I think I did a good job. I think I got to the core of most of them.

So this group worked together and against each other and created a lot of false narratives. And as you see it still goes on. Hawkshaw Pete and Mocking Bird Sue are still involved in this kind of thing. But what really want to show with this post is how it all circles back around, that this group all connects together. I want to show you TKAMN/Susie connects right back to this group who started it al… and well that was done before I even started blogging about any of this. It;s right there on MM7’s blog to read anytime:

https://mm7vslisk.wordpress.com/2013/01/31/falling-out/

Yep, I hate to use their own words, like conspiracy. But they have all conspired together, that’s no joke. And the more I look at each one you see how they worked together and yes against each other. But more importantly in my opinion they interfered. And some still are.

Author’s Note: After posting this I realized maybe a graph of sorts would help show this better. So I made this:

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A simple graph for a complicated group of people.

Still Crushing

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Dorothy left that on one of her new internet stomping grounds Americans For Trump: https://www.facebook.com/groups/americansfortrump/?fref=nf

And there’s more… oh yes, there are more. But first I need to pull the curtain back on the blog for a second to explain how things work behind the scenes of what gets written here.

I know it may seem like I’m constantly stalking Dorothy to see what she’s writing about me. Dorothy definitely sees it this way. She tells everyone who will listen that I’m stalking her. The truth of course is just the opposite, she stalks everything I write… I’ve proven that time and time again (and I am about to prove it one more time). But still I know people must wonder how I keep up with her everywhere. I will admit that back when this first started, back when Dorothy, Cristin,  Jen, Nerd, & Flukeyou were wrapped up in their twisted games, back when Dorothy got Nancy to post my name all over the internet, back when trolling screen names were everywhere  I chased it all the time. Putting each of their names in my google search to see what they were saying and what they had said. I spent hours and hours, days and nights looking into all of them.

But that’s not how it works now. I just don’t have the time to chase the same old shit over and over for hours on end. I mean I think if anything, this blog shows, not much has changed over the years in what Dorothy or Joey have said. I mean yes they tweek their stories from time to time, and Dorothy loves to add new characters to her stories (yours truly being one of them), but mostly, it’s the same crap over and over.

It’s not that I don’t still go chasing from time to time, it’s just this blog really took a step off the public posts and into private chats and discussions.  I’ve talked about this before. Off blog I have met some great people and have serious discussions about the things being said out there. And it isn’t uncommon for someone to write me and let me know they came across Dorothy mentioning me or the blog.

And this is exactly what happened when it comes to these Trump page rants. I checked my messages on the ZW FB :  and someone gave me the heads up:

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There was a link to the Trump page (linked above) where I found these little nuggets:

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You are reading that right. Dorothy wants to blame me  for “planting” some internet story on Trump. Jesus Christ… the last thing I need right now is to get into it with some Trumptards. Ugh! That probably won’t help me much there. I have to point out Dorothy calls herself  “a witness in the Gilgo case”. Damn, she just never stops. My favorite part is after the many comments over the last 3 years where she has said she has given all my info to Police, Detectives, and FBI… she now  wants to sick the DOJ on me. You can’t see or hear it, but I am cracking up… a literal LMFAO moment. If only they can “trace the IP addresses”, damn, that’s good.

Is there more? Of course there is. But first once again, let’s pull that curtain back. This is gonna stray a little, but hang in there, we will be returning to Dot and Trump.

While I was gathering screen shots for this post, I received a message from another reader about Dorothy:

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http://www.crimewatchers.net/forum/index.php?threads/long-island-serial-killer-lisk-gilgo-killer.2051/page-10

I clicked on the link and was surprised (somewhat pleasantly) to see someone had mentioned my blog there. But it wasn’t anything to do with Dorothy. As far as I know any way. Someone on the thread (and you can go to it and see it for yourself on page 10) mentioned a comment left on my LISK.com  blog back in February by TAL. Some of you long time readers probably remember it. But for those who don’t, here it is (just as the person who posted this in the thread above warned, it is kinda long):

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There was also a second comment left on my old LISK blog from TAL:

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I can understand why the person from the Crime Watchers thread would find this comment interesting.  Many people did. And even though we are straying heavily from Dorothy and The Trump Page (I promise we will get back there), I can’t help it, you know how it works, the posts go where the posts go sometimes. I went to this Crime Watchers thread expecting to find something new from Dorothy and they were talking about the TAL comment. That’s how it works sometimes. And just to sort out any confusion (or create more), it’s understandable that the above comments left by TAL would make my readers think of Dorothy. These types of stories are all over the internet and have been circling for years. I can tell you first hand that a lot of these stories come right back to Jen (story of a friend who was told by a foreign woman that she was married to LISK), Cristin (story of Dr. Hackett being an internet stalker), Dorothy (story of ex-husband being LISK), Candyce (the many stories of being choked, drugged, and abducted, yea most of those come from her), and Fluke Scalise Jr. (stories of parties at Brewer’s and a group of Oak Beach neighbors covering up for Dr. Hackett). Yes, there are lots of stories that when chased back, lead you to this group of… what’s a good word here? I call them crazy and nuts all the time, but really it’s worse than that. This is a group of really fucked up people and not one word is bad enough to explain what they are (Stick that in your pipe and smoke it). But there others out there, with their own cryptic stories all claiming the cops won’t listen to them or that they are afraid to go to the cops. Are any of them real? Good question. One we are gonna dive into using TAL as an example, sorry TAL.

When you read the comments on my blog left by TAL 3 questions arise. Who is TAL? Why, after all these years, did he choose to tell his story on my old LISK.com blog? Is what he wrote real? All fair questions. Let’s start with the first one.

After these comments appeared on my old blog I wrote an Email to them.  They seemed to be someone who had just found my old blog (but I get that a lot as long time readers know. And some are new readers, but some are new screen names from old “friends”). Still I looked into who they might be… it wasn’t hard to figure out. In fact anyone paying attention would have seen it all out there (almost like clues to be found):

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Yep, right there on the Praying For Shannan Maria Gilbert FB page, in between Dorothy Dog Shit, is a very similar story. OK, the same story. So TAL is Tom LaSala. See easy if you were paying attention. I have to admit, Tom chosing to tell his story mixed in with Dorothy’s rant is questionable. Maybe my reader is right and Dorothy is connected to this somehow. We all know Dorothy goes on and on about James Burke being involved in the LISK murders. Of course most of that comes from her detective friend Peter F. (saw him on TV the other night, not at all what I expected). He has been obsessed with Burke long before the Gilgo Beach bodies were found. Hey Pete, you might have noticed I have been mentioning you a lot lately in comments and posts… that’s called foreshadowing). Still just because Tom LaSall’s story involves James Burke doesn’t mean Dorothy or Petey have anything to do with it. Though it doesn’t mean they don’t. But to be fair, with Burke’s current place of residence, everyone is starting to question just how deep does his  corruptness go? I’m not any where ready to say Burke is a serial killer and Long Island LE and government officials were/are willing to cover it up for him, but it’s obvious they didn’t want FBI or anyone else poking arround in their affairs. Alright we are way off track. gotta start pulling this back.

I spoke to Tom via a few e-mails and he seemed like a nice guy. Which is why I never put all this out in a post like this. But there were things that bothered me about him as well. And I guess, bottom line, that is why it’s coming out now, well that and the fact others are discussing it on the Crime Watchers thread an a reader asked me to try to help clear it up. So I’m trying.

My biggest issue was that he came to my blog with it in the first place.  Don’t get me wrong, I am happy for anyone who takes the time to comment on any of my blogs, and to drop such a colorful story, well I am thankful. But my blog is known to chase after the crazy stories and hearsay out there. It focuses on disproving and calling out the so-called nuts. So yea, not the place to start I would think.

Then to write the story again under your Facebook account in between Dorothy comments. Again, not the best way to be taken seriously. Still, like I said, he seemed like a nice guy and I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt and not seem like I attack everyone who comes to my blog… I know it feels like that sometimes. I get it Dorothy, I really do.

What really got to me is the vanishing act.So many come here, blurt stuff out and are gone. I don’t trust that. Stay a while, get to know the place. Those hit and runs are way to Fluke like, and when people do it, they lose all credibility with me. I mean, Tom drops this bomb shell and doesn’t come back to answer any comments from others. Hit and run. Even stranger than that, was at this time, there was a reporter/writer going around wanting to talk to anyone who felt they had info on the LISK case. He was writing an article for Honeysuckle Magazine. He had been on my blogs and seen the TAL comment and wrote TAL an e-mail (you can see in the comment, that TAL made a “unique” e-mail just for the comment calling himself a “LISK witness”). Now when TAL/Tom wrote his comment, leaving that e-mail, he must have expected people to write him. And here was someone doing a story on LISK, the perfect chance for Tom to get what he said happened out there after all these years (yea waiting 6 years to tell his story, made me also wonder about Tom. It’s the second question from above: Why wait so long to tell his story? Maybe he was afraid of cops like he said. Maybe the recent arrest of Burke made Tom remember that night. But to me waiting for 6 years just doesn’t add up). You would think Tom would have jumped at the chance to talk to the reporter. Nope. The reporter wrote me telling me that he saw the comment and wrote the guy (Tom) but he didn’t want to talk to him (reporter). This puzzled us both and since I was sharing e-mails with Tom at the time I asked him why. He told me I was the only one he trusted at the moment. Strange, but I have to admit it felt nice to read. In fact Tom praised me and my blog quite a bit and said other than my blog and the Shannan page, he didn’t think he would put his story up anyplace else, Again, it felt nice to read such praise, but it also felt like a snow job (winter pun intended). I mean he was telling me how I’m the only one discussing the LISK case that he trusted and how cool he thought I was, but come on, why? And if you really thought I was so cool and my blog was the best place out there on this (the first part is true I guess, but my blogs are far from the best out there on any subject other than Fluke and Dorothy) , I mean if Tom really felt that way, so strong, that he wasn’t gonna tell his story any other place… where’d he go? Why not stay at the one place he felt worthy of getting this off his chest (after 6 long years), stick around and stand by what you wrote? Yea, I just don’t know if I buy it.

Which brings us to the third question on TAL‘s comment (we covered enough of the second one about why he waited so long to tell his tale in parentheses, right?) This is the main question, yes? Is what TAL wrote real? Did it happen? There are just to many questions for me to believe it happened. Doesn’t mean it didn’t, but in the end I just don’t think so. Tom seemed like a nice guy, but  there are just to many strange things about him and his actions that I just can’t get my head around. For a third time in this post I apologise Tom. And I tell you, as I did in  our e-mails, if what you wrote in those comments really happened, and you think you saw something back in 2010 that is related to the LISK case, if James Burke himself really came out by himself to question you about what you saw… there are people who you can go to. Go to the FBI, go to the press. Right now people are talking about these cases again. Burke’s arrest has sparked new reasons for answers. So if you really believe you are a “LISK Witness”, you should stop at nothing to get the truth out there.

I’ve said this to everyone, even Dorothy at one time. But I’ve also said to everyone (Dorothy all the time), don’t spread rumors and outright lies that fit your own agenda or crazy delusion. And if TAL would have stuck around, maybe we’d have a better idea of where he really stands in all this. But he didn’t. No updating e-mails and he never returned to the comments. Now this could be my fault, I haven’t tried to send any new e-mails or messages through FB. Which brings us back to this post’s running theme, I just don’t have the time to chase down things that don’t lead anywhere but endless circles.

To take it one step further (a step too far probably), it wasn’t just the comment I was unsure of. Even though I say again, Tom seemed like a nice guy in our e-mails, the few things I did find on him made him a new strange character in the LISK Onion. You see Tom is in a Long Island local band called Electric Caves. And he writes a blog. One post in particular caught my eye:

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Wow Bob Wow! Am I right? TAL sure can write. I know where he is getting a lot of that, but man he put it all together so beautifully, it almost seems plausible (for those who didn’t take the time to read the whole post, I understand, but man you missed out).

Alright, take it for what’s there. I could go deeper into my thoughts on it all, but it’s better you all come to your own conclusion. I never got into all this back in February and maybe I should have. The whole thing was strange, and I’ve seen plenty of strange since I started writing these blogs. Again it may all be crap and I should have just left it alone, or maybe TAL is a witness like he claims and his story of Burke needs to be looked into by proper authorities, or maybe there is some place in between where most things lie.

I’ve spent enough time on this. In the end I didn’t know what to think of TAL‘s tale or TAL himself. I hope he has gone to the proper authorities if what he says did indeed happen, and he feels he saw something that could help the Gilgo Beach case. That’s on him. I welcome him back anytime if he has more to add. I want to thank my reader for bringing this all to my attention. I’d also like to thank Sabra for not only reading my blogs and the comments (the comments are the best part), but for posting a link to the Crime Watchers thread. I hope you and any others who find their way here from the thread stay and read. Feel free to comment too, I swear they don’t all end up in posts like this. But it seemed the time to deal with this comment and I thank all of you who helped it come about. I still leave it on each of you to decide whether this is something worth discussing  or to leave it alone. I hope this helps with that decision in someway.

Now back to Dorothy and Trump. When we last left off, Dorothy was reporting me to the DOJ (see little twists, but the same old shit). From there she got quite nasty:

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If anyone out there still reading can’t see why I continue to write posts like these, well, look at my inspiration. She say’s I “claim to be a minister just like gang bang Nate Parker does”. WTF?!? What kind of stretch is that to get her delusions across? Remember it, because it’s gonna come up again in a minute. She calls me a drug addict, not true. She says I’m connected to parties at Joseph Brewer’s house, also not true. She wrote that I claim to have grown up in Cali, raised by a single mom, my friend’s mom was killed by a serial killer, that I have 7 kids, first one born when I was 16 or 17 (a week before my 17th birthday, to be exact). It is true I have said all that before, not all in one place, but yes I have “claimed” all this, and more importantly, it’s all true. And fuck you Dorothy for trying to throw in some of my personal stuff, especially my Mom, friends, and kids. You should know by now how that get’s to me, and well, here we are with another long post (over 3 thousand words right now) that didn’t have to be if you could just curb your school girl crush on me. You see, I was reading all these new things you (Dorothy) were writing about me to my wife. She couldn’t believe your obsession was still so strong with me (see, she’s smart enough to see how things really are). She said, ” You should write a post and call it ‘Still Crushing'”. I thought it was a great idea. Thanks Sassy!

Best part was when she says I use a voice-changer device to sound African-American. Damn, she worries a lot about me sounding “African-American”.  That to will come up again in the next part.

Dorothy ended her “zero rant” on Americans For Trump with this:

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Which is where this post began. I could end it here, by saying something like:

No Dorothy, the Feds have not arrested me, and unfortunately for you the blog still goes on… for at least a little longer.

But there is something more important that needs to be said here. Because, to be honest, and I usually am, I can care less what Dorothy writes about me on a Trump page. It’s kind of ingenious in a way, get me waisting (spelled wrong) my time with people who I clearly will clash with. I doubt Dorothy put that much thought in it though. She’s the type of delusional individual who would support Trump and I’m guessing, Americans For Trump is just another place she goes.  And everywhere she goes she has to mention me. The problem is that she doesn’t just go to places like Americans For Trump, she goes to places like Shannan Gilbert’s FB Memorial page or other open cases out on social media hoping for prayers and helpful tips and instead getting Dorothy.

I recently posted about one of these places that Dorothy has now attached herself to:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/FindJenniferKesse/

This is a page on Facebook set up to help find a missing person, and as I posted before, Dorothy declared war on my blog in the comments of this site:

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Yes, this is where Dorothy is just beyond fucked up and shows just how far she’s willing to go to stalk me (like that Dorothy, I added that sentence just for you). Screwing with another open case,  messing with people who are hurt and hoping for answers, and she uses me and my blogs to do it. Yes, beyond fucked up. And she wrote more since then. But before we get to that and end this post (I know it’s a long one, thank you for sticking with it), we are going to pull back the curtain for a third time:

I did not find the “Help Find Missing Jennifer Kesse” page on my own. Again someone sent me a message:

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Someone on the Jennifer Kesse page had seen Dorothy’s comments, Googled her name and found my blog. She was worried enough about Dorothy’s sudden interest and unusual tactics that she took a chance and contacted me on Facebook to tell me about it:

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I of course told her just how crazy I thought Dorothy was. I told her that it wouldn’t be long before Dorothy wrote about me and sure enough this new reader soon would write me to tell me about the “war declaration” Dorothy left on the page. I couldn’t help it I had to write a post, not just to defend myself. not just because I wanted to try to help the page see the trouble of letting Dorothy continue there, but because this new reader had written me and asked for my help. She felt helpless in stopping Dorothy:

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So yes I wrote a post:

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2016/10/12/dorothy-declares-war/

Did it help? I think most of us know the answer to that. A few people on the page said they were gonna block her after reading my post, but if you go there you will see Dorothy is all over it still, and many people are discussing things with her (Dorothy) like she really knows what she is talking about. This could be because that page is plagued with all sorts of people even nuttier sounding than Dorothy. Crazy psychics feuding over what they can and can’t prove. I feel sorry for the people running the page, I know this is not the intentions they made it for. But there is not much more I can do about it. I wrote a post explaining it all and Dorothy is still allowed to make comments like this:

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There she is, bringing up Nate Parker again (I haven’t googled it yet, and I’m guessing he’s not a nice guy). Saying that I sound African-American, AGAIN. And ONCE AGAIN telling the internet how I attacked her “relentlessly”. This post will be seen as an attack as well, I’m sure. But I just am trying to show you all how dangerous getting involved with Dorothy can be. And this comment should hit it all the way home:

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Damn, Cristin, Dorothy brings you up more than I do. Most of us know Dorothy is talking about Danny Boy, MM7’s husband. Most also know MM7 worked quite a bit with Dorothy at one time. And yes Cristin (MM7), Dorothy is mentioning you on a missing persons page, saying you might “sing” to the feds about you ex-husband. I’m sure both you (Cristin) and your friendly, ex-husband love how she (Dorothy) carelessly threw out the phrase “sex trafficking”.

See? Dangerous!

I swear to you, this is where this post would have ended, should have ended (It’s longer than most short stories). But when I sat down to write it the other day I realized I had some new private messages from Dorothy. Yep, while I was planning this post, Dorothy, out of the blue sends me a message. That’s just how it works sometimes. Dorothy still sends me private messages on Facebook from time to time, though I haven’t answered her there for years. Here was another I wasn’t gonna reply to:

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Damn, that is a good question though. Way to deep to get into now. You don’t want to have to read another four thousand words or so on why we all wear masks to hide our true selves. Yea I didn’t think so. But I did like the timing of this message, it was right after I posted a “voting selfie” on Facebook and Twitter:

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Yep, I was wearing a mask. But that mask is a inside joke, well more of a running gag.  Glad to know that you are still watching my every move Dorothy. It sets you up for a very big fall when I finally bring an end to this all.You’ll see.

I got another private message from Dorothy soon after that one, this one a little more to the point:

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There ya go Cristin, man I hope you are reading all of this. One more time Dorothy writes about some snuff video I embedded somewhere. And you Cristin, found it, do I have that right? Please, one of you crazy ladies put an end to this lie. Something if true, you should be able to prove easily enough. But it’s not, just more dangerous lies Dorothy is allowed to say over and over again. And some of you listen to her. How bright you all are. Sorry if that sounds arrogant. But I told ya, working with Dorothy is not wise.

And that’s where we will end this post.