The Truth About The CCC Part 3

If you read part 2 of this CCC trilogy, you know you were supposed to forget all about part 1. So you probably forgot about DPH and MM7 looking into UG and CCC and coming out with tales of Hackett and Dorothy’s ex husband. Tales of how Hackett and Dorothy’s ex were part of The CCC as well as playing some copy cat murder game against each other over some jealousy thing. You also probably forgot about all the screen names claiming to be part of The CCC coming to my blog and giving me no choice but to look deeper into UG and The CCC. And that’s good that you don’t remember any of that. It’s not needed to see the truth about The CCC. You can read part 2 and go away with what is FACT and can be proven by their own posts and comments on Utopia Guide.

So if you are happy with that, I suggest you skip the rest of this post.

You see the more you look into The CCC and UG, the more you start to question this “harmless” group of “hobbyist”. If you have decided to continue reading, you might want to remember the 1st post again. I know, I told you to forget it and you needed to forget it for part 2, but part 1 and 2 are both needed for part 3. All 3 parts will show how the mythology of The CCC grew and spread.

And just for the record, I’m not saying anyone from The CCC is LISK or that any of them are guilty of criminal activity, well other that the obvious. Again, these are things others who have looked at UG and The CCC have said and passed around. I was not the first to look into this and I’m sure I wont be the last. What I came up with is in part 2. The solid stuff that really don’t show much, other than the Morrie guy is stuck in the middle somewhere. Still there is so much out there that (like everything else) don’t add up. Here we go.

Wait false start, first I have to mention Shady Al’s.

magic ccc lingere bar

Since I am not an LI Native (heh heh) please bear with me. When I first read that The CCC hung out in a bar called “Shady” I lost it. Any long time readers will totally get this. It’s an Eminem thing. And most may wonder why I even mention it. Trust me, it’s not just for a silly Eminem joke. Though, I can’t help it, I find it funny. But this blog always looks at things with multiple eyes (because it is read with multiple eyes), and some of you know who started posting Eminem lyrics before I came along (and it wasn’t Fluke like some might believe). I’ve mentioned it before and will again, there will be a last Eminem post before we are done, for those who still don’t get why this sometimes seems like an Eminem tribute blog.

Oh, I strayed quite a bit, or did I. Let’s wait and see.

Other than the fact this Morrie guy was involved in threatening comments about Amber right before she went missing, there is no connection between those in The CCC and the Gilgo Beach Murders. And yet there are those out there who claim if we knew who some of The CCC members were, there might be more of a connection than Morrie’s baseball bat threats. In part 1 I already talked about MM7 and DPH saying Hackett was Magic from The CCC. I also showed in part 1, that that was highly unlikely, since Magic was said to have died in 2010. MM7 and DPH had also said Brewer was part of The CCC:

mm7 brewer is lw

The thought of Brewer being part of The CCC is definitely intriguing. But going by the things “lightweight” has said about himself, I’m not too sure he is Brewer:

wolf lightweight on families

Married with 3 kids in 2008. Yea, that’s not Brewer. There was also talk of Flukeyou being in the CCC with Brewer. That may come from comments like these:

lightweight to wolf rusian girl

But just because one of the CCC members has a thing for Russian girls does not make it Fluke. In fact the same reasons lightweight isn’t Brewer is the same reason it can’t be Fluke. And as I said in part 1, I looked into Wolf5958 (simple google search you all can do) and he ain’t Flukeyou either.

So there seems to be no real proof Brewer or Fluke were part of The CCC… but there is more talk about such proof, well at least when it comes to Brewer:

ws jb ccc

There are other posts like this on Websleuths where it is claimed that Brewer told people he was part of The CCC. But again, no actual proof that I can see. Still the thought that Brewer may be part of The CCC is intriguing. I said that. But is it true?

See how this could quickly became another tale (tail) being chased around in circles. Let me add to it.

magic dead 1 15 2010

Yes, back to Magic. There is something about this (other than the screen name “deadguy”) that bothers me. “I got the news from SCPD”. What is that all about? Why would SCPD inform someone on UG about the death of another person on UG? Is “deadguy” friends with the cop who told him about Magic? Is the cop a member on UG? I don’t mean to confuse it any further… but it just bothers me.

Maybe this post isn’t a good idea. Maybe I should stop why I’m ahead. But you all read the comment on part 1 from Emily:

emily on ccc

This has to be addressed. First off I don’t buy it. I believe the person who left this comment wants me to believe they are this person:

real emily

And as I said, I don’t buy it, for one second. My LISK blog received bogus comments like this back when I first brought up The CCC, but we will get to all that. There’s a lot we can dissect in the comment on UG by the real Emily. But what I really take away from it, was that she is saying MM7 contacted her about all this, claiming she was an “investigative reporter”. And Emily didn’t like it. Damn, she probably won’t like being part of another WordPress blog, I’m sorry Emily, but don’t blame me, blame the “Emily” who left the comment on Part 1. Assuming it wasn’t you, and as I said, I don’t believe it was. I will get to who I think it is. Patience.

So this “Emily” (the one who commented on part 1) really wants to express that “she” knows most of the guys at UG and they are “NICE” men. We may have a difference of opinion of what is “NICE”. I have read plenty at UG and “NICE” isn’t the word I would use. But let’s just look at what was being said there about the LISK case:

UG on lisk.JPG

” it’s getting interesting”, “I hope everyone has their nose clean”. If they were such “NICE” men, they wouldn’t need to worry about “clean” noses, no?

ug magic not dead

When someone brings up coming forward with information lightweight brings up Seeker. The lol tells us it’s a joke, but since I have done some reading there, it’s not very funny. They also brought up Magic. Another joke, I suppose. I definitely don’t think this means Magic isn’t really dead, but I bet those who wanted to believe Magic was Hackett read this that way. The truth is, some of those at UG loved to poke at Magic. There was some real hatred towards Magic from some of them. Mainly from Lightweight and Teps. They would play these story games on UG where each person would continue the story being told with each new comment, and lightweight just couldn’t help bringing Magic into each one:

lightweight magic dis1

lightweight magic dis2

lightweight magic dis3

lightweight magic dis4

lightweight magic dis5

lightweight magic dis6

That may be hard for some of you to understand what you are reading there. First off you have to read from bottom to top. Anyone who has read at UG knows how confusing that can get. Second, it’s not whole stories, just parts of different ones where lightweight felt the need to bring Magic into it. As you can see by the small portions, you probably don’t want to read their little story games anyways.

How many of you find UG’s story games similar to the types of games played at the “Drunken Stepfather” site. Yea, me too. But I’m not trying to say UG is connected to DS or Lake City Quiet Pills. Don’t go blaming me for mixing the 2 mythologies. I’m just saying, like minds, maybe?

Alright, what I will say about all this is the dislike of Magic does circle around Morrie. Yes, it all comes back to Morrie:

ws ig on ccc1

There that sums quite a bit up, don’t it? I was still not reading at Websleuths when I first looked into The CCC and UG, I could have saved myself a lot of time and trouble if I had been.

So did Morrie harass Magic? Was Magic some kind of narc? The myhology only growing.

If you want, you can go and read for yourself what UG was talking about when bodies started being discovered off Oak Beach:

http://utopiaguide.com/forums/threads/4-bodies-found-on-li-2-could-be-cl-girls.42531/page-6

As I said before, it’s strange that they don’t mind anyone being able to read all the stuff they post on UG. And it’s eerie reading there. So if you didn’t click and read, I understand. To just point one thing out I will post a couple more comments from that thread:

ug on lisk2

ug on lisk1

“NICE” guys or not, I don’t see The CCC helping, even if they did know one of their members could be involved. Like with all the other corruption in Long Island, no one wants their own “Dirt” looked into.

I really should stop now. But that comment:

emily on ccc

Is this the same Emily who was on UG? They sure do want me to think so. Maybe it is. But if it’s not, there can really only be one person behind it:

cynthia on ccc

Don’t they sound a little alike? I know who wrote that. That’s NERD. He admitted writing it, just as he admitted to being PS149 and Seaslug44. I find the 2 comments so similar that even if the new one is from Emily, I would have to wonder if NERD knew her in some way. Which would be a whole other kind of thing. And this is already very murky.

So, for me, I’m gonna assume that NERD wrote that (I know all about assuming, we’ve talked about this before, and I’m more than happy to make an ass of myself to show the ass in others, you know this).  To understand this you only need to know how NERD likes to involve himself in UG stuff. Back when screen names from UG were popping up on MM7’s and my blog NERD was part of the games:

teps ccc lisk blog

lightweight and teps

I don’t know if those are the Teps and Lightweight from UG. Because when it comes to NERD, you just can’t know. He uses many different IPs. (though still was partial a few for a while) and NERD loves to have ongoing conversations with himself with different screen names. Even if those are the real CCC guys, I am pretty sure these ones are NERD:

puppetmaster

sirmixalot

Even if these are other Websleuthers or UG members, or friends of NERD, it don’t matter, I know for a fact these are NERD’s:

nerd as genius at mm7

nerd as amd on UG

nerd pom

And yes, as I said, this one is NERD as well:

cynthia on ccc

Where to even start… well, NERD chose Genius as one of the UG members to pose as. Unless NERD is Genius. I doubt it. But Genius is on UG, one of the nastier members in my opinion. I wonder why NERD picked that screen name to bring to life in the comments of my blog.

Damn. this is getting long, but I know some of you will appreciate all this. Some of you are already lost, I’m sure. I do apologise for that. I also bet at least one person does not appreciate any of this. I do not apologise for that, you had your chance to clear things up.

So Nerd, aka PS149, aka Seaslug44 had a lot to do with The CCC and UG being brought up. He definitely was part of all the hoopla that got me to go read at UG. But back then I could only guess NERD was PS149, and I had no idea he was Seaslug44, so I would have no idea why NERD knew so much about UG and The CCC. I still don’t, well other than mythology and NERD’s not so believing attempt to explain it all to me. But I’m getting a little ahead of myself. You know how I do that.

Those from Websleuths probably already know where I am going, because it was discussed there when Seaslug44 became one of the many Websleuth members who cross over to POI for other Websleuth members. Because this was found:

sealug44 ug profile

Yep, Seaslug44 was a member at UG, since 2005 I should add. Now this has been explained in many diferent ways by Seaslug44, most he admits were lies. Let’s start with the ones he told other Websleuthers about how he made that account to help find someone, or something like that. Here I’ll let him explain it:

nerd on ss44 on ug to ws

So NERD, or should I say SS44 was called out for having an account on UG, and instead of saying it isn’t him (which he claims it really wasn’t), he makes up some elaborate story to explain why he might have made an account up. All this to cover up a more elaborate story about a crazy ex-wife. But this is where I stared to wonder how honest NERD was being with me. We had talked about a lot of things, and I could understand and believe most of what he was saying. This wasn’t adding up to me.

As I said, the Seaslug44 account was made in 2005, which when I brought up, he acted surprised:

nerd on wife ug

He didn’t realize when the “fake” account was made? He wanted me to believe that he got accused of being a serial killer because someone had made a fake account on a “hobbyiest” site that he did all sorts of searching into, but he never noted when the “fake” account was made? Yea, that don’t seem right. Plus he wants me to believe that his wife was mad at him back in 2005 and made this “Fake” account to screw with him. But he didn’t  even know about it until the thing was brought up on Websleuths. Which by the way he decided to make up a lie about because his wife (who he was still with at that point) could be on Websleuths messing with him. If it’s true, I’m sorry, but I just can’t buy all that. Why would his wife use UG to get at him? Why would she know about such a site. And if she or anyone else made the account in 2005 to mess with him, why did he not even know about it till after it was brought up on Websleuths many years later? NERD’s explanations started getting harder to accept. And then of course I wrote the post about NERD being PS149 and Seasslug44 and I didn’t hear from him anymore. I understood, so I didn’t pester him with more questions, even though his answers on the CCC  and UG stuff just didn’t make sense to me.

Then as I started thinking about making the CCC posts, UG went down. I’m still not sure why it was down, but it was down for quite a while. I had to get some other posts out, but The CCC posts were building in my head. And right before I started putting it all down, UG came back up. Which I thought was great because now there would be references for what I was writing about if anyone wanted to search it out themselves. Which is always best… don’t take my word for anything, go see it all for yourself and make your own decisions. But as I said before, when UG came back it changed just a little. Some comments about The CCC seemed to be gone and the Seaslug44 account, that had changed too:

seaslug44 UG pic

I don’t know who that is, but it ain’t NERD.

Strange, there hadn’t been any comments or interaction from that account on UG since this:

seaslug44 ug

Nothing else since 2005. And the picture and info had always been blank:

sealug44 ug profile

But now, years later, and not long after I speak with NERD, aka PS149, aka, Seaslug44 the UG goes down and returns with an updated SS44 account:

new seaslug ug pic

Weird, right? I’m not saying this means anything. I don’t know if someone asked Slinky Bender to change or remove stuff, or maybe it’s just all unrelated coincidences. All I do know is I decided to see what NERD thought about it:

nerd block1

nerd block 2

And with that I was blocked. Fine. Just remember you came to the blog with your games NERD, all I did was figure them out. Go ahead and think I’m the bad guy. You are in good company. You don’t have to explain anything to anyone, but these questions are there.

Oh, and if you are behind the new “Emily” comment, NERD, WTF? Do you really think a third go at all this is a good idea? Just come clean and apologize for once again coming to my blog and thinking I’m still playing, when I said long ago, I’m done playing.

Wow, I really did go too far here. We really should have just stuck with part 2. A little late now though.

When it comes to The CCC there might not be much more than mythology. But that mythology is very thick.

whereitat ccc like brothers

 

#Blindside

No new messages from LL6 this morning. Looks like he realized it’s best not to fight the truth. And more important, don’t call me Blink 182 Boy! LMFAO, what a piss of shit. Anyways now I can move on. But keep reading Rainbow, I think you are gonna find this post quite interesting.

So you may have noticed that for this last year there are no hashtags. After 3 years the gag ran its course. Plus, I don’t know if to many got the whole hashtag thing. I brought it back for this one though. This post deserves a hashtag all its own.

Does anyone watch Survivor? I’m what you would call a super-fan. I say that a lot, that’s because I’m such a Fanboy. But I’ve seen every single episode of every single season… so yea I’m what you would call a super-fan. And any super-fan would tell ya that the best part of the show is the “blindside”. That’s when someone get a kicked off the show when they think they are safe. They think they are running the show The never see it coming. When it happens on the show #Blindside appears on the tv screen and social media lights up with the hashtag. Well this is #Blindside ZW style…

So as we all know I finally figured out who Nerd was. And I have to be honest (Damn, so much honesty lately)  I have had every intention of  explaining who Nerd was. I mean seriously, it’s one of the main reasons this blog was made, to figure out who Nerd was. And like I said, I figured it out long ago. Was pretty sure by the end of the summer. And I didn’t figure it out on my own, I had lots help. For that I really need to say “thank you”. You know who you are.

So figuring out who Nerd was brought on a shit load of questions. And for the most part, Nerd answers them. I had a whole new understanding of how the people from Websleuths have screwed this whole thing up.

This is gonna be one of those posts where some people are going, “Wow Bob Wow!” While others just won’t get the full meaning, not yet. I know this blog can be confusing at times, but everyone gets what they should from it. But if you don’t know who Nerd is: Nerd is a screen name used by what a bunch of us call the 69 IP. An Ip that was behind multiple screen names on MM7’s blog “Catching LISK” and my blogs also. It was behind many screen names like Puddle Of Mudd, AMD, Risa Goodman, Veronica Newman, Genius, and Sophia Hall. The same IP also alos liked to use other people’s screen names like Flukeyou, Mysterymom7, Linda, Too Close Too Home, and Dan B. The same IP also liked to comment as C. Peter Hackett, but I have to point out, Hackett was a popular screen names on MM7’s blog. Lots of trolls and Websleuths cross overs used it. Still Nerd left over 500 comments on MM7’s blog alone, all under a range of screen names saying all sorts of stuff, some very helpful some just way out there. And Nerd wasn’t just the 69 IP, there was another IP… the 209.342.230.** one that also used countless screen names on both MM7 and my blogs. I called this one AMD because that was the primary screen name it used, and I knew it was Nerd as did MM7 for obvious reasons (like AMD was used on both IPs). This IP also had a variety of screen names: Seafood Addict, Cynthia Wise, Florida Frank, Concerned Mother, Lisa Galetta, and even D. hill and J.S.

I have posted all of this before:

https://liskdotcom.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/the-69-ip/

But I want to make sure we all understand where we stand with Nerd.

Oh and just to remind everyone, Nerd once wrote this when I said he was all these screen names:

nerd-not-me-dumbass

Yea, called me and MM7 dumbasses. Which MM7, fine I get that, but me Nerd? Me? Especially since MM7 and I had it right, you were all these screen names. Nerd even used his screen names to try to convince us we were wrong about all the screen names:

nerd-an-ip

So yea, I just want to make suer we all understand where we stand.

So, like I just tried with LL6, I decided to reach out to Nerd and try to understand them and what they did better, before just blindly posting names and stuff. And as I said, for the most part I think I understand Nerd now, though there are still a few things I’m not sure of. I’m confusing people, ain’t I? Alright, let’s just get to the point.

So I figured out who Nerd was and we communicated a little. And we all saw the same thing on the blog. Nerd came back, but PS149 was right there:

nerd-relative

ps149-relatives

This was right when I first reached out to Nerd letting him know I knew who he was. And I did not like it very much. I still wasn’t sure about PS149. But them both showing back up at the same time told me that one of three things were true…

A. Nerd was pretending to be PS149 (which would have really pissed me off because I was just tired of the whole “it’s not the real PS149” game)

B. Nerd and PS149 were friends.

or #3 MM7 was right all along and Nerd was PS149.

I started rereading all the Nerd comments on my blog, I realized that a lot of them were on the first post I made about PS149:

https://liskdotcom.wordpress.com/2013/06/03/for-ps149/

It became obvious to me that PS149 was Nerd, and I figured other readers were probably guessing that to. Well Nerd was being pretty open with me, he knew I had figured him out and seemed ready to explain, and as I said for the most part i get it, i really do Nerd. But there are questions with you that puzzle me, and i don’t think you are being totally open about everything, so well… back to the post.

So Nerd had admitted he was Nerd (which duh, we knew who he was for a while now, I said that, right?) And he admitted to all the Nerd IPs, (the 69 one, the 209 ones and a few others I figured were him from later on Zero’s World). So I knew I had to ask about PS149 while  I asked him if that was really PS149 on the blog now (I should point out, the 2 above comments about female loved ones came from separate IPs, so it could have still been 2 separate people). He told me yes. So if true, and I knew it was, I had just narrowed the questions on PS149 down to 2.  Nerd either knew him or was him. So I posted I showed him a few things from the blog he said about PS149 and he said could see he had to come clean with me, I wasn’t gonna just let it go:

nerd-is-ps149

Aha! I knew it… in fact this was my reply:

my-reply-to-nerd-is-ps149

To some this might not be a big surprise. It wasn’t to me. I figured Nerd was PS149 or knew him. And as you see he started writing as both screen names here like we were the only ones who knew. I really didn’t like that. Pick one screen name here and be done with it. You don’t want people to know who you are, fine, but don’t try to confuse the situation further.

So I wrote Nerd and told him I wanted to put it out there that Nerd was PS149, I told him many have already figured it out and it just looks silly posting as both of them still on the blog. To which he replied:

joe-ps149-no

Man, do none of them get me?

Yes it is harming someone. Me. I don’t let the whole screen name thing go here, never have, never will. Plus why would you want to continue something after it’s been seen. Trust me people got it. Right? You all saw PS149 was Nerd. And if not yet, you would have, and I definitely ain’t being involved in looking like I tried to cover it up.

So here we are… I had to get us up to par. And Nerd, if you would have just said, “sure, let’s get this PS149/Nerd thing out there and just choose one screen name to go by, no more games”, I would have stopped there. And it wouldn’t have meant much. Again, I think most people know Nerd is PS149 by now.

But see here’s the thing. What we figured out long ago had nothing to do with PS149. What we figured out last year was that Nerd was Seaslug44.

I know, I know, It blew me away when I realized it too!

Let me all help you get your mind around this. Nerd, MM7’s blog troll was Seaslug44. And we now know Nerd was also PS149. Which means Seaslug44 is PS149!

I know, right? Wow Bob WoW!

I’ll leave you all with that to chew on for a while.

Stay Tooned!

Zero Interviews

I know we are only half way through this second year of Zero’s World, but I’m already looking to the next year. In case anyone else is interested in what is in the future for Zero’s World, expect a lot more religion and politics, after all it is an election year. Yes, this place will be getting on the campaign trail with #2016ElectionCoverage. Which, let’s face it, the campaign trail has already started, hence me mentioning it now so we aren’t playing catch up later on. So expect Zero’s World 2016 hashtag ongoing storyline (you guys get what that is right, like when X-Files had different MOTW (monsters of the week) but the ongoing storyline was aliens and Mulder’s chase to find out what happened to his sister, that’s what my hashtags are each year, an ongoing storyline for the season, by the way did you hear that they are bringing X-Files back?!? That’s 2 of my all time favorite shows now coming back, life is good) to come early. Wait a second, was that a parenthesis in a parenthesis? Why do you guys let me get away with that stuff.

Anyways, #WorldsCollide is still in effect and colliding at a sometimes, hourly rate. I want to clear up some posts in the closet (some have been in there, way too long) and give some kind of closure to some of the things I brought up this year (Quiet Pills and other fun stuff) plus I really want to try something different. Something I have talked with some of you out there about before.

I want to do some interviews. (Meaning, I want to interview people, not that I want to be interviewed) With whom, you may ask, well just about anyone this blog has been about or affected in any way. Readers, commenters, and of course the subjects.

Here’s a list of some of the top people I would like to interview:

Joey “Flukeyou” Scalise

Doctor Hackett

The Drifter

Joseph Brewer

Pak

Truthspider

The Facebook John/Jane Doe Guy (where’d ya go?)

Fielnotes (a real interview, not a made up one)

MM7

Jen

Nancy and any of her friends or relatives or ex

DPH and any of her friends or relatives or exes

NERD

AMD

PS149

Murt

Anyone at Radionewz

and the list goes on…

I know what you are thinking, why would anyone do an interview with you? Good question, and honestly I don’t know if anyone would. But I think I would be a good interviewer and would like to try it. I’d be down with a Skype interview,or a phone interview, or even a  Facebook or Twitter one, in fact I think a Twitter interview would be a neat idea.

And I’m not looking to expose people who have done a good job of staying anonymous, so any Websleuther or old LISK.com reader, you are on the list and you don’t have to use anything other than your known screen name (yes NERD that goes for you too!)

Just a thought, don’t know if it will go anywhere, but I’d really like to do this, so hit me up if anyone is game. Private message me at Zero’s World Facebook or Email me at zerodinh@rocketmail.com.