Cherry Picking Comments

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I notice he only posts comments from other people“. No fucking shit! It’s my blog, get your own blog if you want to post my comments. Yes I cherry pick the stuff that shows what I am trying to show. But they aren’t lies, they are things people really said. Still, if I have to show more to explain exactly how truthful this place can be, I can do that:

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This comment left today by Maureen has got to be some of the most crap anyone has ever tried to shovel into one comment here. I didn’t cherry pick it. I waited for it to fit with some other comments I have cherry picked though. Yes, I had been waiting to address this subject ever since Patty and Maureen first brought it up in Kim’s group. But I was patient and Maureen wrote this masterpiece to frame it around. But not to twist it… oh no… we are gonna untwist this comment.

First though, here I am zero. There are so few rules here, but that is one, so please if you plan on any last replies… ixnay on the ichardra. NEWBIES!

OK, my so-called lies that Maureen called me out on. Maureen didn’t run to Dorothy and Jerry, just to that group… which is what I said, she ran to the group where Dorothy and Jerry were threatening and slandering me. I hope Maureen isn’t saying she didn’t join in with them… because we all saw that happen in real-time.

Let me inform you, because you haven’t Dick, you have been sending PM to Rich Keeys  and Patricia.”  Wow, that’s’ a weird sort of lie to make it sound like I lied about something. Let me explain:

I have all sorts of messages and emails I don’t discuss here. I have said this many times. I’m quite up front that I don’t put everyone’s correspondence up on blast. Some say I do, thank you for proving I’m honest about that. Still that sentence implies I’m sending people messages and saying I’m not, that’s a lie in a lie. I never said I didn’t write these people. And to be honest I only replied to Patsy’s message:

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As you see, Patsy contacted me and I wrote her back. What was your point Maureen?

I did send Rich Keeys a message. We have never met and he is commenting about me like he knows me. So I just introduced myself:

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I wrote him he didn’t reply. Again, not sure of your point here Maureen. Other than your new boyfriend is an internet bully/real life pussy.

So far I don’t know what lies she is talking about. Let’s continue.

The whole part where she want’s me to prove she knows Susie and then asks why “it’s even relevent?” That was all pretty transparent, right?

Now to the meat of Maureen’s complaint. She thinks I should show my sides of conversations. Well, to bad.

Just kidding. If you really want it I’ll give it to ya:

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There does that help? Both sides there. Shows what I said about the conversation was pretty accurate, no?

It did go on an on a bit, but everything I wrote you has been said here on the blog (if they would just read). Still, we can go a little further to erase any future debates:

Scratch that, I changed my mind. I posted the above before it was finished because Maureen couldn’t shut up about me contacting  Patricia and Rich. Which as you can all see, Patsy contacted me and I answered her. I also did introduce myself to Richie (hee hee, I get to use it now) and he declined to write me back. So we covered all that. Happy now Maureen, I was gonna post more of our conversation because you thought it was so important:

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And as soon as I start posting our whole conversation all of a sudden our conversation wasn’t that important after all:

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Exactly what I’ve been saying all along.  A while ago Mari told me she didn’t trust you or Jen G. Then you showed up asking me about Jen G and Spoof phone calls. I didn’t feel comfortable at the time having that conversation in an open group. Though I have posted about it since then:

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2016/12/19/bye-bye-bobo/

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2016/12/30/spoof-phone-calls/

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That right there was what really began our correspondence. We continued the conversation in private where you agreed with me that Dorothy, Hawkshaw, TKAMB, and Jen G were all crazy and have hurt the case. Then Jerry showed up and you ran right for the shit show.

It’s exactly how I have said it is. So what lies is Maureen talking about?

That’s how the back-n-forth works Maureen, after a while you forget how it all started.

That wore me out a little, just a little, lol.

Look, it doesn’t matter, if you want to call me a narcissist and say I stalked ya. Join the other nuts. It’s where ya belong.

I just don’t have the time to keep explaining something you are never gonna get. But it’s all there for those who want to take the time and READ!

 

 

 

Leeches And Lunatics

Maureen has found her way to the blog. I knew she would. She constantly said she wouldn’t ever come here, but I don’t think Maureen’s word means too much. The fact she tried for quite a while trying to convince everyone she was above the games I wrote about and then ran right to Jerry and Dorothy said all we needed to know about that. Besides I’m telling you, her and the Mocking Bird nut are close.

I don’t think there is much left to say about Maureen. It’s all there to be seen for itself. But I do have to talk about her Facebook messages. Like Dorothy, Maureen continues to send me messages on FB even though I do not reply to them. Also like Dorothy, there is some funny stuff in them:

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Clowns, Alice In Wonderland, a “drama” meme… all good stuff. She wants us to believe the ZW blog doesn’t matter, it’s just full of leeches and lunatics, and that she doesn’t have the time for it. Maybe she’s right about some of that. Maybe the ZW Blog doesn’t matter, I have certainly never said it did. And it does have it’s share of leeches and lunatics, I think it has something to do with the subject matter. But as it turned out, Maureen found time for The ZW blog after all. Over the past few days, she has filled the comments with gems like these:

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Oh Maureen, trying so hard to make it seem like you don’t care… LMFAO!

Love how you threw my “radar” line back at me. I’m on Maureen’s radar. Cute.

I really like that Maureen uses pronouns like “we” and “our”, classic!

Maureen uses the troll logic that people don’t want her here, so she came here. Deep down though she knows I got her here. She fought it hard, even told me I couldn’t do it:

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This is not a LISK blog. I need to count how many times I have written that. Way to many for people still not to get it. I also don’t “out” people, most of the stuff I put up can be seen on the internet somewhere.

I did get you to comment on my narcissistic blog though, Maureen. Wasn’t very hard to do either, your word don’t mean much from what I can see. I said that right?

And now that you found your way here, it’s already time for you to leave. You could read here for ever and still not understand.

This place isn’t for you.

Lindsay Lohan 6

Last week I posted this:

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2016/12/29/lets-get-down-to-bussiness/

I know it seems like ages ago. A lot has happened in 1 week. As I said that post had been in the making for quite a while and when I finally sat down to get it finished and posted it had changed a little. Some things were left off. For instance the screen name Lindsay Lohan 6 was mentioned in the original version. For a few reasons I took it off. That obviously was a mistake… so here we go.

It was comments like this that first made me notice LL6:

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I could just tell that they were one of the nuts. Guess what, I was right.

LL6 likes to say my blog is pointless and boring. They said it on Websleuths and they even told me so personally, yesterday:

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What the fuck? That’s kind of ballsy, especially for someone who had just asked me this:

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Um, yes Paul, yes, I am.

Paul aka LindsayLohan6 (nice screen name, all I could think of all the time was how LL6 was 1 off from MM7, no connections I’m sure, but it’s all I could think of every time I saw your screen name), thinks he is helping the case. And maybe he is. Maybe he’s the one who is gonna solve it. To be honest, I took him off the post and actually sent him a message before bringing him into the madness. I know, I know, my mistake, LL6 decided to bring the madness, which ended in a 3-way with Josh Zeman. Pure madness. But let’s start at the beginning.

As I said, LL6 has not been nice in the past when talking about this blog. Plus I had heard, that like the rest of the nuts, he goes running to John Ray with all his “findings” I also figured he was one of the many Websleuthers that went to Josh and Rachel for the show The Killing Season. But before I slumped them in with the others, I decided to write him on Facebook and see what he had to say (remember when I did the same with Candyce? Yea, this worked out just as well):

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That was the reply. No who is zero? Why are you writing me? Just “What do you hear what do you say”. Well I think I rocked poor Paul’s world when I told him what I hear, what I say. I told him I hear and I say he is LL6. LOL. I think this might have shocked him a little. But he played it cool at first… at first.

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Well, isn’t that convenient?

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I bet it does. I bet it does.

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I think I started making LL6 nervous here. I wasn’t trying too. But with how the blog has been lately, I totally understand.

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This was all good, I mean, I knew I was right about this guy, but it’s good to actually see it. And I was seeing it. I told him I thought he was not much better than the rest. I tried to explain that I feel what they all do messes with the case. But like all the rest he said:

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Reddit? Yea, Candyce used to go there, I’ve been there a few times, who wants to make a bet it’s full of nuts like the ones I write about? Candyce and LL6 make up 2 already!

Alright, so LL6 doesn’t think he does anything like these guys. But I was waiting for something. I knew it was coming. Something that would show exactly what I see LL6 having in common with people like MM7 and TKAMB. I didn’t have to wait long:

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Yep, that was it. He helps out John Ray. Who else does this? MM7 did quite a bit. Flukeyou, TKAMB, shit all the nuts do right? They go and tell their stories to John Ray and he twists it into Hackett… am I seeing that wrong? And before we go on, I’m not trying to help Hackett, his name has been gone after on this blog as much as any other (well, almost, I only share an eternal dance with one, huh Dorothy?). You want to sleuth Hackett, have at it, I’m just calling it as I see it. Oh and John Ray calls LL6 “Rainbow”. Smells like another screen name.

Now I need to take a moment to say that a few years ago after reading LL6 post about their POI on Websleuths, I asked who their POI was. They told me it was someone from Websleuths, then told me their screen name and their real name and a few other things about them. I think that need to be known to keep this post in perspective. And once more when i brought this person up, they said they no longer thought they were right, even though they were so sure before. I don’t think you will see any of the irony in this, LL6, but I’m sure there is shit loads of it. So LL6 tells me they have a new LISK POI… get this another person on Websleuths! I swear to God. LL6 now believes he found another Websleuther that he is pretty sure is LISK. Perspective!

I tried to explain why I saw it this way, but all he kept saying was talk to John Ray, talk to Josh, talk to Rachel… I swear, he kept repeating it:

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They never understand me. They do all they can to prove me wrong and all they do is prove me right. Through out the conversation LL6 wanted me to explain how I figured out who he was. I tried to explain it don’t matter. People pass around information, go back and read the perspective part if you still don’t see irony. That is irony right? Am I saying it wrong again? Regardless, please keep this post in perspective. I told him, you all share bits of info online and then connect offline and share stuff, you all go to John Ray and try to one up your fellow Websleuthers, you each think you are helping the case while all the others are wackos. Stuff gets passed around. It’s the good, the bad, and the ugly of the internet. But he had to know who:

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Now there ya go Lindsay, you’ll be a real sleuth yet! Now was it one of these people, or did they tell someone and it made its way out there? Wait, we can’t just gloss over Scalise Sr. being there… and some woman. Yep, as TKAMB would say, “The plot thickens”.

So maybe one of them got it from the phone call and passed it on. I tried to tell LL6 that when you put yourself out there questioning others, you end up getting questioned. He didn’t like this. But it’s true. If you get involved in any back-n-forth on the internet, no matter what your intentions are, it will come back at ya, that’s why it’s called back-n-forth.

LL6 of course let me know I was just as bad as all of them:

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How, ’bout now? Are ya sure now? Look i know I’m no better than any of you, blah, blah, blah, I heard it a million times. Except I’m not sleuthing the case (I’ve said that a few times, right?). Another thing I ain’t doing is running to John Ray or anyone else claiming I have information on who LISK might be.

There were some other interesting parts to the conversation:

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TKAMB reaching out to LL6 through Kolker?!? Take it as you want I guess. I’m sure you all know how I see it (oh and TKAMB, I thought you frowned on “running to the press”).  Anything else Lindsay?

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Yea, we will get to MCME soon enough. As the conversation wound down he said this about the blog:

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Like my response? I really didn’t care, he’s said it before, but I was done with the conversation and I wanted him to sweat a little (fucking dick).

And he did seem to go into a bi-polar break down:

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I didn’t reply because I wasn’t at the computer any more. When I came back and saw it all I was like wow… and then I saw this:

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WTF?!? Really? I mean, really? So right off the bat… LL6 called me Blink 182 Boy. LOL, good one. But to bring Josh in like that, wow. I was stunned. To spring it on me, to spring it on him. Stunned. And to top it off I was getting lectured in a group chat I had no idea I was a part of. I don’t mind though. I know how it all looks… my point. right? I say they are like Dorothy, they say I am like Dorothy… I can see where Josh is coming from, and he was (like me) forced into a group chat. But I never said anyone was LISK, no please no one think that. Again, I’m not sleauthing the case, the people I mention are people I feel have nothing to do with the case and should probably STFU! We are clear there, right? And one other thing, I didn’t ho running to Josh.

So last night after seeing all this I sat down in a feverish pitch to get this all out there. Fuck it, call me “Blink 182 Boy”, Lol. I woke up this morning to look it over and decide how to end it… something like… “Hey LL6, how boring is the blog now?”. I know very predictable. Well I woke up to this message:

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I thought, maybe I’m being to quick on this. Is LL6 really as bas as the others? Shit, am I as bad as the others? Are LL6 and I as bad as each other? Maybe I should just delete this post. And then:

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“King Retard”?!? Ah come on… that’s messed up. And, forgive me if I go to deep here, that statement implies you are a retard… no?

Ah hell, what am supposed to do? What the fuck am I supposed to do? Well, you are reading this, so you know I posted it… and I thought I’d let LL6 have the final word:

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Chris Lovejoy Part 2

I bet you aren’t to happy with me right now Suzie Q. I can’t say that I blame ya. But you might be happy to know that this is the last post on you for a while. Yea, someone out there doesn’t realize when I’m trying to be nice.

Anyways, since this is the last post on ya TKAMB, I do have to make sure I make it very clear. You see, when I first started exposing Dorothy Price Hill a lot of people were dumbfounded. People couldn’t believe that she was real, and when they saw who she was, they thought someone must be using her name to troll the internet. Believe me i wish that was true… but Dorothy is real. Everything I have written about her is true. I spoke to both her ex husbands (one by phone) I spoke with people who knew her, worked with her (in real life and in her internet shenanigans) her neighbors..  yes, she is  very real and very scary. And if you look her up, she is all those people you see. She is all over the internet. From interviews about her favorite show “Sex In The City”, to all her “85 Broads” stuff, and all her crazy stories about LISK. It’s all her and she’s all crazy.

I bring this up, because already people are saying, well Susie isn’t a real person right? Yes she is real. Yes she is the Screen name To Kill A Mockingbird as well as countless others, and yes she is still tying to get herself into the LISK case. I believe she is probably trying to use Sherrie Gilbert as a way to stay involved. Yea, that’s a good idea. Go after the last Gilbert. Please, leave her alone. I doubt you will listen TKAMB, it’s like a sickness with all of you, you just can’t stay out of it. Well, let’s finish up here.

Again, Susie used TKAMB as her main screen name… but she also loved (heh heh) Chris Lovejoy. And she uses it a lot. want to know where it comes from? Of course you do:

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Hey, there’s a connection. Seems like Lovejoy is a real name too. One Suzette has used before:

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So there you have it. We could go deeper, for Dorothy I actually showed an ancestry link to Dorothy’s family connections. But that was a drastic situation, Dorothy loves to tell the lie that she was adopted and that her real mom is Mitt Romney’s wife. I shit you not. So I had to show beyond a shadow of a doubt, Dorothy was exactly who she is. I don’t see the need to do all that here. Susie comes from a wealthy family like Dorothy, which I’m guessing allows them both to get away with their antics. Will leave it at that.

It’s all there… if you don’t see it, it’s only because you don’t want to. people who cozy up to Dorothy don’t want to see it, so I know there are some Susie friends who think I’m an asshole. To which we all know, I’m a dick, not an asshole. But Susie brought this all on herself. They all did. You heard it for yourself, right? Here it is again:

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Please don’t try to tell me that ain’t you Suzette. Face it the games up, for all of you. You can’t put this genie back in the bottle. I know that audio file has really got people talking. And I know Susie would like it taken down. She said so with her favorite screen name:

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Nope it ain’t coming down. And I wouldn’t worry about it too much, it’s nothing compared to how you, Susie Mockingbird detailed the audio file. Right? Yep, I know it may seem hard to believe but not only did Susie spoof call Pete Hawkshaw using Dr. Hackett’s phone number, not only did she make a recording of her telling Pete about the spoofed call,  not only did she share this recording with others online, but Susie detailed the whole thing in an online message (Don’t you love how I get these things?). And to me, it is this message Susie sent under her favorite screen name that I feel is really the most damaging, which is why it was saved for last… (see not an asshole,  dick all the way):

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Should I stop to point out that both Hawkshaw and TKAMB are in contact with Cris Loeb?!? Yea read those parts real carefully. How many of these so-called Websleuthers are there interfering with the case? So does anyone think it’s a good thing for Chris Loeb to be involved in back-n-forth games with TKAMB and Hawshaw? Man I can’t do this for much longer, please tell me everyone is finally seeing just how fucked up all this is. How these nuts from Websleuths think they are so god damn importantly that they not only have to shove their shit at reporters and LE and the families of the victims, but they have to bring down their fellow Websleuthers while they are at it. I sure hope you see how Susie mocks you Hawkshaw. Yep, she lives up to her Mocking Bird alias.  A little more to go:

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LMAO, TKAMB calls Josh and Rachel the “Dance Macabre people”. She talks shit about anyone who goes to the press  and yet, Susie has talked to them all too. Didn’t you Susie? Tell me you don’t talk to Kolker. Yea, don’t bother lying, I know the truth.

What more can Chris Lovejoy have to say?  Let’s see:

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WTF? Is this what you guys think is sleuthing? How is hanging out with so-called “witches” gonna help the LISK case? And as long as we are going there, how does any of you parasites discussing whether Mari was into black magic or not have anything to do with the LISK case? Nope that’s more the game talk there. And fuck you all for doing it.

Alright, leave us with something good Lovejoy:

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There that’s what I needed.” LL6 is Scalise”…  I thought you guys were supposed to be sleuths?

Yes, this will take us into the next post quite well.

See ya all tomorrow!

Susie Say So

Do any of you ‘member the screen name that started putting MM7’s mug shot everywhere?  Yea, we ‘member. LOL.

So Susie says a lot of stuff under screen names, but she also has a lot to say under her “Sue Name”. Shall we take a look at some of them? Yes we should:

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If I am seeing this wrong, please someone correct me. But Susie Mockingbird is a big part of the problem. In fact I put her in the top 3 next to Dorothy Price Hill and Joey “Flukeyou”  Junior. And Jen, Cristin, and Candyce, you round out the bottom 3. All 6 of them getting right up into the case. Truthspider and Hawkshaw are dangling from the scrap metal of this ship, with John Ray at the captain’s seat. Some may argue that Mari had a hand in letting some of these nuts get so close to the case, maybe… but John Ray has always been driving… still is.

 

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As Susie starts to panic and removes posts and comments, deleting Facebook accounts (you will have to delete them Susie, blocking me is not enough) I can’t help but think I warned her that this day would come… oh yea I did:

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2014/03/25/who-is-dorothy-price-hill/

You see, way back in March of 2014, I wrote this:

I have been informed that some people who really are involved with this case don’t even know if Dorothy is real. They know just how many fake accounts were made out there by the likes of people like Joey Junior and Susie S. And I will get to Susie eventually, so if you are out there reading Susie, send me an IM or something, would love to know if you are still a part of these evil shenanigans or secretly really someone else.

It’s really not my fault so many of you don’t take what I am doing here seriously.  TKAMB could have stopped this all, but in the few years since I wrote that, TKAMB got more involved with sock puppets and online harassment. We’ve all seen the kinds of stuff she has written under the names Oak Beach, Alice Cooper, and Chris Lovejoy. Oh yea, not everyone has, huh. Not all of you are on Websleuths, not all of you are on the same LISK related FB sites where she comes up… let me go find a few comments real quick:

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“Whoever Zero is” LMFAO!

There’s more, lots more. But that will do for now. Susie aka TKAMB and so many other screen names is just like the rest of them in this sick group. And if you are gonna start covering your racks you are gonna have to go deep. As I said, I have known about you for a while:

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I think it is.

Yes, you will have to go deep to cover your tracks.

MM7 and Susie

I know this place can be confusing. You should see what it’s like in my head, everything racing around in circles, constantly. So it can be hard to keep things straight when I start typing. Luckily for all of you I love to do recap posts or what we have come to call explanation pots. This is gonna be one of those.

So I’ve blogged about lots of things, but one ongoing thread was to show the connection of some people I used to say from LISK.com, but as we have evolved here we know the truth, it’s a group of Websleuthers. So I have shown how these people got together and well we all can see the outcome.

Once again I need to point out that a lot of ladies reached out to Mari and were part of her Facebook group. It’s important to note that, MM7, Dorothy, Jen, Candyce, and Susie were part of that. At least at one time. I think it should also be noted that they all were kicked to the curb at some point. This happened because they did all work together at some point and then run back to Mari and rat out the other. They each had to be the one who was helping Mari and the best way to show that was to expose who the others were up to no good. The main story was always someone was writing a book. This was an issue quite a bit once books started be written.  There was also the screen name thing.  And bad talk behind Mari’s back. They liked to snitch on each other. Still do or I couldn’t be writing all this. I call this group of ladies The Exiles… though some of them did get back into Mari’s good graces. It’s important to know this went on, it was part of it. So it all started with…

Truthspider. Well that’s where I’m starting it at least. For what ever reason, Truthspider and Fluke got together on the whole LISK=Hackett campaign. I have heard they know each other through lifeguard stuff maybe. But even if they just met up on Websleuths for the first time it dosen.t matter, because once those 2 started there, a lot set into motion to connect the very wrong people. Now Fluke also had his stuff going at LISK.com and Truthspider would go there as well, but it was Websleuths that started the real connections, and still does from what I see. So Jen is on Websleuths, MM7 is there on Florida stuff… and MM7 joins the Hackett campaign. So you have Fluke, MM7, and Truthspider working together behind the scenes and taking their fight to Websleuths. They have resistance especially from PS149. Meanwhile MM7 is also helping Fluke over at LISK.com as well. Too Close To Home is doing their best to combat them there (we are keeping war terms for now since we are in a war with Dorothy, that is how she sees this, so that is how it shall be, TKAMB seems to be another casualty from that war, so i don’t think it’s going to well for that side). There were others that spoke out against them and the whole thing blew up there, resulting in several people being removed from Websleuths.

Jen connects to both MM7 and Fluke and they all work together. (What I mean is they all worked together as 3, but also Jen worked with Fluke alone, MM7 worked with Fluke alone, and MM7 and Jen worked alone) Dorothy get’s in there to. She works with MM7 quite a bit. QUITE A BIT! Dorothy works with Jen. MM7 starts her blog and it is a place for all the Websleuths fighting to continue since Websluths frowns on it, harshly.  But that threesome breaks up. Jen and Dorothy go at it. Jen tells Mari MM7 is writing a book. MM7 tells Mari things about Jen. There are other connections, Dorothy and Nancy, and somewhere Candyce finds her way in and out of there, and some I still may not see. When there are so many “players” each one capable of creating multiple accounts it’s hard to keep up. But I think I did a good job. I think I got to the core of most of them.

So this group worked together and against each other and created a lot of false narratives. And as you see it still goes on. Hawkshaw Pete and Mocking Bird Sue are still involved in this kind of thing. But what really want to show with this post is how it all circles back around, that this group all connects together. I want to show you TKAMN/Susie connects right back to this group who started it al… and well that was done before I even started blogging about any of this. It;s right there on MM7’s blog to read anytime:

https://mm7vslisk.wordpress.com/2013/01/31/falling-out/

Yep, I hate to use their own words, like conspiracy. But they have all conspired together, that’s no joke. And the more I look at each one you see how they worked together and yes against each other. But more importantly in my opinion they interfered. And some still are.

Author’s Note: After posting this I realized maybe a graph of sorts would help show this better. So I made this:

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A simple graph for a complicated group of people.

Chris Lovejoy Part 1

So, as I said, To Kill A Mockingbird uses all sorts of fake screen names or what we have all come to call, sock puppets (yes I’m going back to that word). She has for some time now. Long ago when ever people brought her up to me (and not by TKAMB, because back then I wasn’t on Websleuths, I mean when people brought HER up) they said she made lots of Facebook accounts and inserted herself into the case (Boy do I see that now). Most were puzzled by it and did not know why she did it, but they told me to stay far away from her. And I did. I have mentioned her by name a few times on the blog. But for the most part I stayed away. And I was fine not knowing much about this person until I went to Wensleuths and discovered that this person was TKAMB. Here was another one. Why? Why do they do it. They all say they are helping the families. Yea, Fluke, MM7, Jen, Dorothy, they all claim that’s what they are doing. Well that’s not how I see it. Does any one else? I know some of the families don’t. And now just going over all this person has written in public and in messages under so many different screen names, after years of waiting for them to just stop, I had to do something, say something, before I left this all behind. I mean, yes, I got the truth out there about so many of these “players”. I call them that, because they act like it’s a game. They think it’s about tricking and fooling people. They are trolls, but they inserted themselves into the LISK case to become “players”.  So I couldn’t go without exposing one last “player”. One of the biggest.

Most of us know one of TKAMB’s favorite sock puppets is Chris Lovejoy. And I have quite a collection of things Chris Lovejoy has said/written, and I was gonna share them, but that will have to wait till part 2. Because Chris Lovejoy just wrote me a message:

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Wow. Don’t these people get what I do here, lol. At first I wasn’t gonna reply. But hey, it’s a sock puppet:

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Yea I bet that part where she calls the Gilbert’s liars isn’t helping her with anyone who might have been listening to her. Good. Because she’s poison to the case in my opinion. She is no better than Dorothy… wait, she is  worse… Dorothy is crazy,  what’s TKAMB’s excuse? Poison.

I won’t bore you with the whole correspondence but here’s some highlights:

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Again, don’t they see what I do? LOL!

I think I got TKAMB a little worried about what I might post next. Yea, I tend to do that to people. You are in great company TKAMB. They all say the same thing too…why do you waste (spelled right) your time on Flukeyou and Dorothy? Sounds like Joey, “Why do you care who Flukeyou is?” LMFAO! And the fact that you were probably the one who first put up MM7’s identity (yea, I know that too), some of the others who have been through this already might actually be happy to see it now happening to you. Couldn’t happen to a nicer person, right? Yea, that’s kind of weird. I’m helping MM7 in a way. But I never said I didn’t want to help her, I tried to show her how to get out of the mess she created hooking up with all these people. Oh well, I don’t want to get sidetracked talking about MM7.

Why? TKAMB/Chris never did answer that. Why make up screen names and multiple fake Facebook accounts? Why insert yourself into the case and harass people once you are there? Why try to convince so many people you know inside stuff? Why is that so important to show the internet that you and only you know who LISK is? Do you really think you are helping? Yea, well Chris Lovejoy didn’t answer any of that and left me with this:

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Did I just get a “cease and desist” from a sock puppet? Shit, I think I did. Damn, that’s fucking funny but kind of stupid. It didn’t work for Dorothy or any of the other nuts, what makes you think it would work for a sock puppet. All it did is create this post for me. Yea, that was not the way to go. I think we need to just cut to the chase…

TKAMB, and I know you are reading today, I hope you had a good New Years, because this is gonna sting a little… ah who am I kidding, this is gonna hurt like hell!

Spoof Phone Calls

“I agree with a lot of your comments, but the calls from hackett to Mari, those calls were traced back to hackett, proving he did call mari several times, although he denied it, until he was pushed into a corner with truth. Hackett sounds delusional to me, from all I’ve heard from Robert, hackett believes his own lies, and what you’re saying as well. Those calls you speak of, spoof calls, all I can say to that is J. G. I’m more than sure you know who I’m referring to. If you know DPH, I’m more than sure you know of JG. The mental state of some people involved is more than one would expect.”

Some of you might have seen this comment left for me on a Facebook LISK discussion page. I never truly answered it because I was working on this post you are reading right now. And this post is gonna cover Hackett, spoof calls, and J.G. So by the end of this post we will understand it better or at least understand why I didn’t answer the above comment (that’s not totally true, I did address the comment which got me into a little public debate with the person who left the comment. I’m not gonna rehash it here and it really isn’t necessary to do so at this point or for the discussion we are about to have.) I just want to say that I myself do not know for sure what calls were traced back to Hackett. I know what has been said and as I will show ya, people like to jump around on both sides of the fence on this one. There are many comments on my blogs like this:

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This is something widely speculated and often misrepresented. Why did Hackett first deny ever calling Mari. What did they talk about? Did Hackett mention a “home for wayward girls”? Did Hackett really tell Mari he met with and tried to help Shannan? What does Mari’s phone records really show? How many calls came from Dr. Hackett? What day was the call or calls made? Yep, I’ve heard from people who claim they have proof of each side. Some say, there is proof Hackett did call Mari before Michael Pak and Alex Diaz went to Oak Beach. Some say the call came after they were there. Some say there was only one call while others say there is proof of 3 calls. Some even say that some of the calls may have been spoofed. All I can tell you is I’ve heard from both sides, seen some of the so-called proof, and I still don’t know. I would figure LE has a better handle on it than me though. I would also think  the evidence that some have been passing around out there for a while now can be seen in its proper context by those actually involved in the case against Dr. Hackett. There and only there can it be sorted out to what is the truth of the phone calls. Those of us relying on bi-polar sleuthers who post things and then yank them right down can only get the picture in bits and pieces. But let’s look at those bits and pieces anyways.

So the comment above said, ” Those calls you speak of, spoof calls, all I can say to that is J. G. I’m more than sure you know who I’m referring to. If you know DPH, I’m more than sure you know of JG.” This is a correct statement even if it is a little too general. Yes, I definitely  know of J.G. and yes spoof call stuff can be chased back to her. In fact I think it was J.G. who first brought up spoof calls to me. But they weren’t the last. So I don’t want to lay that blame entirely at Jen’s feet (Jen is J.G. if I haven’t made that apparent yet). As we will see by the end of this post there are others out there who think spoof calls are a part of this whole thing.

But first I have to get to a question I have heard a lot lately, especially after that comment about spoof calls and J.G. That question is: Who is J.G.? I can understand that. She’s been quiet for a while now. But that don’t mean she ain’t out there, still part of the big bang. So let me give you a quick Jen refresher. Jennifer G. is a cab driver in Long Island who became part of Mari’s so-called “secret” Facebook page. This group included the likes of Cristin (MM7), Dorothy Price Hill, Susie S., Candyce B.A., and other lonely ladies lacking both in the common sense department and mental stability. Jennifer befriended both Dorothy and Cristin. Jennifer actually spent time with Dorothy, going to her house on at least one occasion. Jen would then meet up with Mari and others at the vigils and Oak beach marches that would often end at the Scalise house. Jen actually befriended the Scalise’s. That was how this group came about. Jen was the connection between Dorothy, Cristin, and Joe Scalise Jr. They all worked together at some point, but Jen was the piece closely connected. Cristin says more than anyone else in the group , it was Jen that tried to convince her (Cristin)  that Hackett was stalking her. Both Dorothy and Jen claim the other called CPS on each other. Yea, their friendship went bad fast. And even though it is said that Jen is still friends with the Scalise family, Jen says she is convinced Fluke is LISK… or in Fluke equations, Flukeyou=LISK. Jen claims Joe Jr. also tried to get her to sell pot for him. That;s not important, but I like putting stuff people said about Fluke out there, I think you can all understand why.  So Yes, spoof calls were brought up a lot by Jen. I can show you countless e-mails from her trying to explain them to me, but this is better:

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That’s Jen if you didn’t know (there I go rule breaking again). So you can see this stuff does get talked about on Websleuths, and yes once again Jen is there pushing it. I don’t deny Jen pushes the spoof call angle. But where did it come from? Fluke? Websleuths? Is it something LE or others are seriously looking into? I don’t know. Well, I know some others seem to be on the subject.

Before I shock everyone (well maybe not everyone) I need to talk about  Mari’s phone records that TKAMB has been passing around. I would really like to post it here, because it would help understand some of what we are about to hear (yes hear). But I don’t know if that’s wise. I’m guessing it’s evidence and isn’t supposed to passed around like TKAMB is doing nor is it supposed to be posted in blogs (like MM7 did with other court room documents). Still I really wish I could, because it does help. It’s out there though, find it, read it, see if it helps sort through the truth of the calls from Hackett or if there was any spoof calls.

Alright let me get to the point, so you all understand what I’m talking about.

I know some of you just don’t see how big of a deal it is that internet sleuths (like the types who flock to Websleuths) are part of a growing nut gathering. People who see themselves as both victims and the only one who can save the day. People throw the word narcissist around. and long time readers know I feel we all have a bit of narcissist in us, social media feeds that beast in us. We all want attention (last time I said this, it rubbed people wrong. Don’t read too much into it. I’m not saying we are all Dorothy, but we live in the 15 minutes of fame world). Still, most of us have balance of some sort. We like to give as well as receive if you know what I mean. I think one of the very first things I posted back on the Red & Black blog, was “true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing”. I live by that. Others don’t get it at all. They think they know it all. And the really bad ones think the rest of us are the ones that just can’t see the truth. Now this is a general statement that covers a lot of territory online.  And you either get what I mean or you don’t. I’m sorry if you are on the side that don’t, but I can’t make you see it. Trust me, you have to come to it on your own. Alright, enough “Red & Black”, let me explain where this less general and more zeroed in.

So what I am trying to say about Websleuths, and particularly those I have encountered on it… they think they are the one who get’s it and the others are not. But they talk in private share ideas and rumors and then use it against each other. I’ve said this, right? They make up multiple screen names on social media and Websleuths accounts. Which I wonder why that is allowed. Maybe people find a way around it, but somehow people are able to have more than one account there and fuck with each other. Yes, they fuck with each other. They sleuth each other, they tell others what they have done together only if it makes someone else look dirty. They also get way involved in the case fucking with people who are part of the investigation and court cases. That place is a mess. And I know a lot of you are not gonna agree with me. Again, I get that it does good… I get that most people there are not crazy or trying to fuck with people. I’m not condemning it anymore than I’m condemning the internet… but even if I know nothing, I know that you get bad with the good. And you know what they say about “one bad apple”.

Alright, I put this off long enough… to make my point let me give you a hypothetical that really happened:

What if the discussion of spoof calls was out there more than you might realize? What if some people though Mari’s phone records even proved spoof calls? What if to prove it could happen, TKAMB spoof called Hawksaw  using Hacketts phone number? That would be something, right? And what if Hawkshaw called Hacketts number back to see who had called him? Let’s say Hawshaw didn’t get an answer, so he hung up. But then a little while later Hackett called Hawkshaw back asking why he called, and of course Hawkshaw would say, “I didn’t call you, you called me”. What kind of confusion would that cause? And what if TKAMB found the whole thing hilarious? OK, I kind of understand that, the whole thing is so ridicules that it is funny. But if something like that did happen, as funny as it is, it’s also messed up. And it would show just how these things go on with the Websleuthers. I know most of you are thinking, no way this really happened. But it did. And not to long ago. The only reason I know about it, is because like MM7, TKAMB like to tape her phone calls and then pass them around. That also proves what I have been saying about how a lot of these nuts use the same exact tactics. But I’ve said enough, hear for yourself. I’m sure we will have a lot to talk about after wards:

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I told you it really happened!

Lots to discuse here, I know, but let’s start with this. Listening to these to talk was as bad as listening to the Flukeyou/MM7 calls. Sorry, but these are your great sleuths with so much information? Please.

So Hawkshaw starts off saying he figured it was a spoof call, so I’m guessing stuff like this has happened before. OK I’m not guessing, I know it has. And I know Websleuths and other places have talked about it at some point.

Next… damn, TKAMB cracks herself up. I like how Hawshaw asks what the point was. I don’t know if he ever really got it. Do you see that neither of them care about bothering Hackett even though they seem to both think he has nothing to do with LISK? That’s how so many from Websleuths work… get your ideas across no matter who you have to fuck with.

I love how this shows exactly what I have been saying, email sharing, phone calls…  interfering more than actually helping.

Much more here, but TKAMB calling the Gilberts liars… can’t let that go by with out a mention. That’s  how it works, friends some places, stab in the back behind public posts. In fact I bet TKAMB describes this conversation with Hawshaw much definitely then how it is. It seems very friendly, but I bet she sees it as Hawkshaw being another idiot way beneath her who just can’t see what she does. In fact I know she does.

Love how they don’t want to really be involved… damn if that ain’t funny.

This is just part of the big picture of how Websleuthers fuck with each other and therefore the cases they are sleuthing also get fucked with… and I find the whole thing fucked.

What this proves to me most of all, that these 2 people who claim to know the truth, who claim to see what others don’t, they don’t really know anything either. It’s Hackett, It’s Burke, it’s Pak.

It’s a game to these people. They are caught up in being right and knowing more than their sleuthing peers. And they fuck with each other… oh yes they fuck with each other.