Complaint Department Part 2

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As you can see from the dates on the comments above, this is gonna be another post that’s been sitting a while. Unlike the last post, this one never made it to the written form in any way, it was sitting in my head (along with so many other posts that never made it out). Right about this time the whole Jerry thing erupted and it kind of went to the back burner of the mind. But it seems to fit in here so I’m gonna search my head, back to February and get the post out that I had planned but never got to. Luckily I did get the screen shots I needed for the post. Enjoy!

As you see in the title, this is a “Part 2”. Most likely it will be part of a trilogy post, because I’m bound to get more complaints between now and December. If you didn’t read Part 1 or need to refresh yourself here ya go:

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2016/04/07/complaint-department/

Though you might want to read these as well since they help show the whole picture:

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2016/04/04/shit-list/

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2016/04/04/down-a-few-levels-i-go-again/

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2016/04/10/sweet-pea/

Jason, who I playfully call Mr. Harvard had made a comment on the SG FB Page about someone who had the same name as Hackett but was not Hackett as if he was Hackett. If that is confusing, go read the posts.

I gave Harvard a pretty hard time for not doing his homework and posting totally wrong information on such a sensitive page. Well, what I really gave him shit for was going at those of us who corrected him instead of just removing his ridicules breakthrough. Again, go read it all if you haven’t yet and see for yourself.

Now look again at the comments I posted at the top of this post:

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Well look at that, Mr Harvard did his homework this time.

It seems my blog does help some people find their way out of the rabbit hole. I’m glad to have helped.

Harvard’s new understanding though isn’t really enough to bring all this back up. I found it interesting and a little uplifting, but I don’t know if I would have done a whole post on it… and then in true SSDD, one person finds their way out and another one pops their head up from the deep, dark hole.

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WOW BOB WOW! I can’t help but take that a little personally. I should just say STFU Josie and move on. Anyone who believes Dorothy or listens to Dorothy, well I’ve already said many, many times how I feel about them. But I have to wrap my head around this insane comment.

I get some (many) people don’t like me. I even get that some people may think I am no better than those I blog about. But to believe Dorothy Price Hill over the things written on this blog… that’s just crazy talk. I show examples of when people do what I say they do:

https://clyp.it/5snkejby

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murt email to mm7

dph email to mm7

dph sg fb steve vai

DPH leane man

dph nan fb websleuths

I could go on and on… everything I said people said, they said.  And the things I’ve said they have done… they did. You can see for yourself. So please Josie Farber or any other of Dorothy’s friends and supporters, please tell me where any of Dorothy’s Dog-Shit shows true? Where did she actually help any of the cases she has injected herself into? Show me how both her ex husbands are involved in LISK. Show me where her lies and internet slander/bully tactics has ever helped one person! In this post alone I show that I helped Harvard. And the fact that it was to help him see through Dorothy, doubles my point, don’t it? LOL!

Alright, enough on all that, because there are others with not so nice things to say  about this blog, and I feel I should let a couple in.

Kay Look Tweet

I don’t get much Twitter reaction, but I loved this one. I think Kay has some misunderstandings about me and the blog. But to be fair, if “Encore” was the first thing Kay read here, I can totally understand. That post was for people who have been here for a while, it was a fun post that was meant to come across exactly as Kay saw it, so, not their fault. Though their next comment did take the confusion to a different level:

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TRUMP?!? LMFAO! I’m not sure if this was a joke or if Kay thinks I’m somebody I’m not. Well obviously Kay thinks I’m a woman, which I am not, so yea, they think I’m somebody I’m not. But I don’t ever remember proclaiming any such thing on FB. Who does do stuff like that on FB? Oh yea, I remember, Nan Nan.

Look, I don’t know who Kim is talking about, but they seemed to be confused, which happens a lot here, this is a confusing place, so I will chalk this complaint up to a misunderstanding, they happen.

Let’s look at one more example… I’m not positive they are talking about this blog, but I got a feeling, lol.

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If I am wrong and you are talking about some other “crazy” blogger, then never mind what I’m about to say. But since I’m pretty sure you are referring to me… pay attention.

First off, calling the guy who calls everyone crazy, crazy, is kind of funny, no? But let’s be honest, if I wasn’t crazy before I started blogging about all this, there’s a good chance all of this could have driven me there.

Next, I DID NOT STALK ANYONE!  SSDD, assholes!  I get tired of hearing this. The people I write about are out there publicly trashing whoever they have beef with, and I’m the stalker? Most of the stuff I read about Hawkshaw was from what was sent to me. But I couldn’t stop reading Thee Rant once it was brought to my attention.

Which brings me to my third and final point on these Websleuther’s complaints. Go ahead and give Hawkshaw credit for saying what he knows about the dirty cops in LI, pat him on the back and throw him a party. Let’s hope more police come out and do so. But don’t accuse me of being part of the corruption for a place I’ve never been just because I also pointed out what someone directly connected to that corruption has posted over the years:

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Ok, there you go… hope I helped some of you who have a warped view of this place, though I know I probably only confirmed it to most of you.

Let’s see if I can’t write some post you’ll like.

Welcome To The Illuminati…

This blog and those who are connected to it have been accused of being many different things with many different agendas. I now have to tell you… it’s ALL true!

Zero’s World and many who contribute here are part of the oldest and most powerful group that has ever existed. Our origins reach back to the death of Christ. Our family heritage is linked to the Masons and our country’s founding fathers. The secrets of The Knights Templar has been passed down through the years and the bloodline of Christ has continued through to this day. The Kennedys, Rockefellers, Astors, Rothschilds and many others are known to be a part of this bloodline , but in present day most of us have changed our names to avoid detection. Through the years many have speculated on the existence of the Illuminati and our roles in running the world. I am here to tell you soon all will be revealed and the world as you know it will change for ever.

This of course is the good news.

The bad news is, this blog was used as a HONEYPOT:

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This means everyone who has ever connected to this site in any way opened themselves to us. Any comments:

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were easily connected to their source:

rich keys profile

All your emails were hacked and collected:

DPH MM7 email Nancy email1

LISK Jen and UG

dph email to mm7

jjj email on zw

fluke email from JR

mm7 email to JR

As well as all your Facebook PMs:

Jerry kate1

jerry kate17

k8 dph294

k8 dph254

k8 dph324

k8 dph325

k8 dph326

lyon jerry1b

lyon jerry2b

lyon jerry3b

Those last 3 were sent to Jerry from Rich Lyons aka: Susie Mockingbird. In case people were wondering who was passing around personal info to everyone.

You now know how we were able to find so much from Longislandserialkiller.com long after the site was taken down:

LISK Fluke1

LISK Flukeyou 1

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LISK Flukeyou 4

LISK Drifter 1

LISK JJ 1

LISK JJ 2

LISK wanda 2

LISK Resident

LISK ANON 1

It’s also how a blog long ago taken down by its creator can be put back up:

https://mm7vslisk.wordpress.com/author/miserymom7/

And how comments from that blog can now be seen for what they really are:

fu gus and bh

You never had a chance Fluke.

Secret pages were all seen:

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Things unseen by most was easily seen by us:

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jim mutell LH1

No private conversation was truly private:

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Even DPH’s “secret line” is known:

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We have it ALL. And ALL will be revealed in the comments.

3 Screen Shots

So things are getting crazy again! Maybe this fourth year was a bad idea. LOL!

It has been said I like screen shots (Kim says it a lot). Long time readers will remember how I used to say that about everyone else. You probably remember how I quickly had to master the art of the screen shot. I think it was LINative (I miss LINative) who said they liked reading here because I took people’s own words to show their true colors. I’m paraphrasing of course, but the point is, I learned quickly the best way to show what all theses people were really all about was by letting their own words speak for themselves.

So yea, screen shots have become a big part of this blog. The best screen shots come straight from the nuts. They take them of each other and then when they turn on each other (the nuts always do) they pass them around. My favorite screen shots came from Jen G. and Dorothy Price Hill. They tried so hard to prove to me the other was crazy… what was that, over 3 years ago now… and this still is going on. You see when a nut turns on another nut they send stuff out to show what the one nut has been up to. But they also show what they have been up to. Only proving they are both nuts. Confusing? You get it though.

Other screen shots come from people who have dealt with these nuts themselves.

And a few of my worshipers also obey and search out screen shots for me. LMFAO! Is that sarcasm?

As I see it, I’m not the only one who likes screen shots. Everyone’s got them, lots of them. Screen shots from private conversations. Screen shots from LISK.com and Websleuths.  Screen shots from  blogs, Facebook, Twitter, and other social media. Everyone likes screen shots, I’m not special there.

In fact there are so many screen shots out there (not to mention e-mails) that it can be very over whelming. But for those of you confused at why I have been paying so much attention to the screen shots coming from Pat’s Group (I know it’s not her group any more, was it ever?), I can break it all down to 3 screen shots for ya (man, this post has the words “screen shots” way to much in it).

First One:

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This was left by Dorothy Price Hill on a missing person’s page. The screen shot was sent to me by someone from the page. They were concerned about Dorothy’s sudden interest in the case. After curious comments like this one they had looked into her and found my blog. This is not the first or last time this happened to me. People contacting me to tell me how Dorothy has inserted herself in some case or how she had slandered someone. I am not exaggerating when I say Dorothy has upset many, many people. Something to remember, but not why I chose this as one of the 3 (say it with me) screen shots. The reason I have reposted this screen shot here is to once again say this. Dorothy declared war on this blog. I accepted. I don’t know how many times I have to say this before it’s truly understood.

Second One:

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That one was sent by… oh yea, we aren’t saying who sent that one or the next one. Still there it is. Kim (Dorothy’s friend) called me out to play. So when I did, why did everyone get so butt-hurt?

Third One:

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Oh Maureen, this is just shit. Everyone reading it know’s it’s shit. First off in that list of nuts only J.G. deserves it? LOL. J.G. never said anything about my mom or threatened to break my knee caps. Yes, J.G. deserved it, but the only one on that list? Please don’t try to fool yourself that you are fooling anyone else.

Also notice Maureen still calls Susie: Chris. Love it! I’m telling you, those 2 are close!

But that last part… “I believe DPH has the best intentions in the LISK case. I got to see for myself“. That’s just too much. What did you get to see for yourself, Maureen? Man, that is such shit. And everyone can see right through it. Even Maureen doesn’t believe it, that’s why she wrote it the way she did. You know what I mean.

Again, you just don’t know how many people Dorothy Price Hill has screwed with. Hitching your wagon to her was the final act in your charade.

Plus, go back to screen shot #1…

So there we are.

Any questions?

#Blindside

No new messages from LL6 this morning. Looks like he realized it’s best not to fight the truth. And more important, don’t call me Blink 182 Boy! LMFAO, what a piss of shit. Anyways now I can move on. But keep reading Rainbow, I think you are gonna find this post quite interesting.

So you may have noticed that for this last year there are no hashtags. After 3 years the gag ran its course. Plus, I don’t know if to many got the whole hashtag thing. I brought it back for this one though. This post deserves a hashtag all its own.

Does anyone watch Survivor? I’m what you would call a super-fan. I say that a lot, that’s because I’m such a Fanboy. But I’ve seen every single episode of every single season… so yea I’m what you would call a super-fan. And any super-fan would tell ya that the best part of the show is the “blindside”. That’s when someone get a kicked off the show when they think they are safe. They think they are running the show The never see it coming. When it happens on the show #Blindside appears on the tv screen and social media lights up with the hashtag. Well this is #Blindside ZW style…

So as we all know I finally figured out who Nerd was. And I have to be honest (Damn, so much honesty lately)  I have had every intention of  explaining who Nerd was. I mean seriously, it’s one of the main reasons this blog was made, to figure out who Nerd was. And like I said, I figured it out long ago. Was pretty sure by the end of the summer. And I didn’t figure it out on my own, I had lots help. For that I really need to say “thank you”. You know who you are.

So figuring out who Nerd was brought on a shit load of questions. And for the most part, Nerd answers them. I had a whole new understanding of how the people from Websleuths have screwed this whole thing up.

This is gonna be one of those posts where some people are going, “Wow Bob Wow!” While others just won’t get the full meaning, not yet. I know this blog can be confusing at times, but everyone gets what they should from it. But if you don’t know who Nerd is: Nerd is a screen name used by what a bunch of us call the 69 IP. An Ip that was behind multiple screen names on MM7’s blog “Catching LISK” and my blogs also. It was behind many screen names like Puddle Of Mudd, AMD, Risa Goodman, Veronica Newman, Genius, and Sophia Hall. The same IP also alos liked to use other people’s screen names like Flukeyou, Mysterymom7, Linda, Too Close Too Home, and Dan B. The same IP also liked to comment as C. Peter Hackett, but I have to point out, Hackett was a popular screen names on MM7’s blog. Lots of trolls and Websleuths cross overs used it. Still Nerd left over 500 comments on MM7’s blog alone, all under a range of screen names saying all sorts of stuff, some very helpful some just way out there. And Nerd wasn’t just the 69 IP, there was another IP… the 209.342.230.** one that also used countless screen names on both MM7 and my blogs. I called this one AMD because that was the primary screen name it used, and I knew it was Nerd as did MM7 for obvious reasons (like AMD was used on both IPs). This IP also had a variety of screen names: Seafood Addict, Cynthia Wise, Florida Frank, Concerned Mother, Lisa Galetta, and even D. hill and J.S.

I have posted all of this before:

https://liskdotcom.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/the-69-ip/

But I want to make sure we all understand where we stand with Nerd.

Oh and just to remind everyone, Nerd once wrote this when I said he was all these screen names:

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Yea, called me and MM7 dumbasses. Which MM7, fine I get that, but me Nerd? Me? Especially since MM7 and I had it right, you were all these screen names. Nerd even used his screen names to try to convince us we were wrong about all the screen names:

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So yea, I just want to make suer we all understand where we stand.

So, like I just tried with LL6, I decided to reach out to Nerd and try to understand them and what they did better, before just blindly posting names and stuff. And as I said, for the most part I think I understand Nerd now, though there are still a few things I’m not sure of. I’m confusing people, ain’t I? Alright, let’s just get to the point.

So I figured out who Nerd was and we communicated a little. And we all saw the same thing on the blog. Nerd came back, but PS149 was right there:

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This was right when I first reached out to Nerd letting him know I knew who he was. And I did not like it very much. I still wasn’t sure about PS149. But them both showing back up at the same time told me that one of three things were true…

A. Nerd was pretending to be PS149 (which would have really pissed me off because I was just tired of the whole “it’s not the real PS149” game)

B. Nerd and PS149 were friends.

or #3 MM7 was right all along and Nerd was PS149.

I started rereading all the Nerd comments on my blog, I realized that a lot of them were on the first post I made about PS149:

https://liskdotcom.wordpress.com/2013/06/03/for-ps149/

It became obvious to me that PS149 was Nerd, and I figured other readers were probably guessing that to. Well Nerd was being pretty open with me, he knew I had figured him out and seemed ready to explain, and as I said for the most part i get it, i really do Nerd. But there are questions with you that puzzle me, and i don’t think you are being totally open about everything, so well… back to the post.

So Nerd had admitted he was Nerd (which duh, we knew who he was for a while now, I said that, right?) And he admitted to all the Nerd IPs, (the 69 one, the 209 ones and a few others I figured were him from later on Zero’s World). So I knew I had to ask about PS149 while  I asked him if that was really PS149 on the blog now (I should point out, the 2 above comments about female loved ones came from separate IPs, so it could have still been 2 separate people). He told me yes. So if true, and I knew it was, I had just narrowed the questions on PS149 down to 2.  Nerd either knew him or was him. So I posted I showed him a few things from the blog he said about PS149 and he said could see he had to come clean with me, I wasn’t gonna just let it go:

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Aha! I knew it… in fact this was my reply:

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To some this might not be a big surprise. It wasn’t to me. I figured Nerd was PS149 or knew him. And as you see he started writing as both screen names here like we were the only ones who knew. I really didn’t like that. Pick one screen name here and be done with it. You don’t want people to know who you are, fine, but don’t try to confuse the situation further.

So I wrote Nerd and told him I wanted to put it out there that Nerd was PS149, I told him many have already figured it out and it just looks silly posting as both of them still on the blog. To which he replied:

joe-ps149-no

Man, do none of them get me?

Yes it is harming someone. Me. I don’t let the whole screen name thing go here, never have, never will. Plus why would you want to continue something after it’s been seen. Trust me people got it. Right? You all saw PS149 was Nerd. And if not yet, you would have, and I definitely ain’t being involved in looking like I tried to cover it up.

So here we are… I had to get us up to par. And Nerd, if you would have just said, “sure, let’s get this PS149/Nerd thing out there and just choose one screen name to go by, no more games”, I would have stopped there. And it wouldn’t have meant much. Again, I think most people know Nerd is PS149 by now.

But see here’s the thing. What we figured out long ago had nothing to do with PS149. What we figured out last year was that Nerd was Seaslug44.

I know, I know, It blew me away when I realized it too!

Let me all help you get your mind around this. Nerd, MM7’s blog troll was Seaslug44. And we now know Nerd was also PS149. Which means Seaslug44 is PS149!

I know, right? Wow Bob WoW!

I’ll leave you all with that to chew on for a while.

Stay Tooned!

Lindsay Lohan 6

Last week I posted this:

https://zerodinh.wordpress.com/2016/12/29/lets-get-down-to-bussiness/

I know it seems like ages ago. A lot has happened in 1 week. As I said that post had been in the making for quite a while and when I finally sat down to get it finished and posted it had changed a little. Some things were left off. For instance the screen name Lindsay Lohan 6 was mentioned in the original version. For a few reasons I took it off. That obviously was a mistake… so here we go.

It was comments like this that first made me notice LL6:

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I could just tell that they were one of the nuts. Guess what, I was right.

LL6 likes to say my blog is pointless and boring. They said it on Websleuths and they even told me so personally, yesterday:

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What the fuck? That’s kind of ballsy, especially for someone who had just asked me this:

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Um, yes Paul, yes, I am.

Paul aka LindsayLohan6 (nice screen name, all I could think of all the time was how LL6 was 1 off from MM7, no connections I’m sure, but it’s all I could think of every time I saw your screen name), thinks he is helping the case. And maybe he is. Maybe he’s the one who is gonna solve it. To be honest, I took him off the post and actually sent him a message before bringing him into the madness. I know, I know, my mistake, LL6 decided to bring the madness, which ended in a 3-way with Josh Zeman. Pure madness. But let’s start at the beginning.

As I said, LL6 has not been nice in the past when talking about this blog. Plus I had heard, that like the rest of the nuts, he goes running to John Ray with all his “findings” I also figured he was one of the many Websleuthers that went to Josh and Rachel for the show The Killing Season. But before I slumped them in with the others, I decided to write him on Facebook and see what he had to say (remember when I did the same with Candyce? Yea, this worked out just as well):

ll6-zero1

That was the reply. No who is zero? Why are you writing me? Just “What do you hear what do you say”. Well I think I rocked poor Paul’s world when I told him what I hear, what I say. I told him I hear and I say he is LL6. LOL. I think this might have shocked him a little. But he played it cool at first… at first.

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Well, isn’t that convenient?

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I bet it does. I bet it does.

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I think I started making LL6 nervous here. I wasn’t trying too. But with how the blog has been lately, I totally understand.

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This was all good, I mean, I knew I was right about this guy, but it’s good to actually see it. And I was seeing it. I told him I thought he was not much better than the rest. I tried to explain that I feel what they all do messes with the case. But like all the rest he said:

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Reddit? Yea, Candyce used to go there, I’ve been there a few times, who wants to make a bet it’s full of nuts like the ones I write about? Candyce and LL6 make up 2 already!

Alright, so LL6 doesn’t think he does anything like these guys. But I was waiting for something. I knew it was coming. Something that would show exactly what I see LL6 having in common with people like MM7 and TKAMB. I didn’t have to wait long:

ll6-john-ray

Yep, that was it. He helps out John Ray. Who else does this? MM7 did quite a bit. Flukeyou, TKAMB, shit all the nuts do right? They go and tell their stories to John Ray and he twists it into Hackett… am I seeing that wrong? And before we go on, I’m not trying to help Hackett, his name has been gone after on this blog as much as any other (well, almost, I only share an eternal dance with one, huh Dorothy?). You want to sleuth Hackett, have at it, I’m just calling it as I see it. Oh and John Ray calls LL6 “Rainbow”. Smells like another screen name.

Now I need to take a moment to say that a few years ago after reading LL6 post about their POI on Websleuths, I asked who their POI was. They told me it was someone from Websleuths, then told me their screen name and their real name and a few other things about them. I think that need to be known to keep this post in perspective. And once more when i brought this person up, they said they no longer thought they were right, even though they were so sure before. I don’t think you will see any of the irony in this, LL6, but I’m sure there is shit loads of it. So LL6 tells me they have a new LISK POI… get this another person on Websleuths! I swear to God. LL6 now believes he found another Websleuther that he is pretty sure is LISK. Perspective!

I tried to explain why I saw it this way, but all he kept saying was talk to John Ray, talk to Josh, talk to Rachel… I swear, he kept repeating it:

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ll6-john-ray-josh

ll6-josh-and-rachel-daily

They never understand me. They do all they can to prove me wrong and all they do is prove me right. Through out the conversation LL6 wanted me to explain how I figured out who he was. I tried to explain it don’t matter. People pass around information, go back and read the perspective part if you still don’t see irony. That is irony right? Am I saying it wrong again? Regardless, please keep this post in perspective. I told him, you all share bits of info online and then connect offline and share stuff, you all go to John Ray and try to one up your fellow Websleuthers, you each think you are helping the case while all the others are wackos. Stuff gets passed around. It’s the good, the bad, and the ugly of the internet. But he had to know who:

ll6-josh-ray-name

ll6-kolker-name

ll6-scalise-john-ray-call

Now there ya go Lindsay, you’ll be a real sleuth yet! Now was it one of these people, or did they tell someone and it made its way out there? Wait, we can’t just gloss over Scalise Sr. being there… and some woman. Yep, as TKAMB would say, “The plot thickens”.

So maybe one of them got it from the phone call and passed it on. I tried to tell LL6 that when you put yourself out there questioning others, you end up getting questioned. He didn’t like this. But it’s true. If you get involved in any back-n-forth on the internet, no matter what your intentions are, it will come back at ya, that’s why it’s called back-n-forth.

LL6 of course let me know I was just as bad as all of them:

ll6-knocked-off

How, ’bout now? Are ya sure now? Look i know I’m no better than any of you, blah, blah, blah, I heard it a million times. Except I’m not sleuthing the case (I’ve said that a few times, right?). Another thing I ain’t doing is running to John Ray or anyone else claiming I have information on who LISK might be.

There were some other interesting parts to the conversation:

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TKAMB reaching out to LL6 through Kolker?!? Take it as you want I guess. I’m sure you all know how I see it (oh and TKAMB, I thought you frowned on “running to the press”).  Anything else Lindsay?

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Yea, we will get to MCME soon enough. As the conversation wound down he said this about the blog:

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Like my response? I really didn’t care, he’s said it before, but I was done with the conversation and I wanted him to sweat a little (fucking dick).

And he did seem to go into a bi-polar break down:

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ll6-pissed

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I didn’t reply because I wasn’t at the computer any more. When I came back and saw it all I was like wow… and then I saw this:

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WTF?!? Really? I mean, really? So right off the bat… LL6 called me Blink 182 Boy. LOL, good one. But to bring Josh in like that, wow. I was stunned. To spring it on me, to spring it on him. Stunned. And to top it off I was getting lectured in a group chat I had no idea I was a part of. I don’t mind though. I know how it all looks… my point. right? I say they are like Dorothy, they say I am like Dorothy… I can see where Josh is coming from, and he was (like me) forced into a group chat. But I never said anyone was LISK, no please no one think that. Again, I’m not sleauthing the case, the people I mention are people I feel have nothing to do with the case and should probably STFU! We are clear there, right? And one other thing, I didn’t ho running to Josh.

So last night after seeing all this I sat down in a feverish pitch to get this all out there. Fuck it, call me “Blink 182 Boy”, Lol. I woke up this morning to look it over and decide how to end it… something like… “Hey LL6, how boring is the blog now?”. I know very predictable. Well I woke up to this message:

ll6-sorry

I thought, maybe I’m being to quick on this. Is LL6 really as bas as the others? Shit, am I as bad as the others? Are LL6 and I as bad as each other? Maybe I should just delete this post. And then:

ll6-fuck-you

“King Retard”?!? Ah come on… that’s messed up. And, forgive me if I go to deep here, that statement implies you are a retard… no?

Ah hell, what am supposed to do? What the fuck am I supposed to do? Well, you are reading this, so you know I posted it… and I thought I’d let LL6 have the final word:

ll6-crazy

Spoof Phone Calls

“I agree with a lot of your comments, but the calls from hackett to Mari, those calls were traced back to hackett, proving he did call mari several times, although he denied it, until he was pushed into a corner with truth. Hackett sounds delusional to me, from all I’ve heard from Robert, hackett believes his own lies, and what you’re saying as well. Those calls you speak of, spoof calls, all I can say to that is J. G. I’m more than sure you know who I’m referring to. If you know DPH, I’m more than sure you know of JG. The mental state of some people involved is more than one would expect.”

Some of you might have seen this comment left for me on a Facebook LISK discussion page. I never truly answered it because I was working on this post you are reading right now. And this post is gonna cover Hackett, spoof calls, and J.G. So by the end of this post we will understand it better or at least understand why I didn’t answer the above comment (that’s not totally true, I did address the comment which got me into a little public debate with the person who left the comment. I’m not gonna rehash it here and it really isn’t necessary to do so at this point or for the discussion we are about to have.) I just want to say that I myself do not know for sure what calls were traced back to Hackett. I know what has been said and as I will show ya, people like to jump around on both sides of the fence on this one. There are many comments on my blogs like this:

kimberly-hackett-mari-phone-call

This is something widely speculated and often misrepresented. Why did Hackett first deny ever calling Mari. What did they talk about? Did Hackett mention a “home for wayward girls”? Did Hackett really tell Mari he met with and tried to help Shannan? What does Mari’s phone records really show? How many calls came from Dr. Hackett? What day was the call or calls made? Yep, I’ve heard from people who claim they have proof of each side. Some say, there is proof Hackett did call Mari before Michael Pak and Alex Diaz went to Oak Beach. Some say the call came after they were there. Some say there was only one call while others say there is proof of 3 calls. Some even say that some of the calls may have been spoofed. All I can tell you is I’ve heard from both sides, seen some of the so-called proof, and I still don’t know. I would figure LE has a better handle on it than me though. I would also think  the evidence that some have been passing around out there for a while now can be seen in its proper context by those actually involved in the case against Dr. Hackett. There and only there can it be sorted out to what is the truth of the phone calls. Those of us relying on bi-polar sleuthers who post things and then yank them right down can only get the picture in bits and pieces. But let’s look at those bits and pieces anyways.

So the comment above said, ” Those calls you speak of, spoof calls, all I can say to that is J. G. I’m more than sure you know who I’m referring to. If you know DPH, I’m more than sure you know of JG.” This is a correct statement even if it is a little too general. Yes, I definitely  know of J.G. and yes spoof call stuff can be chased back to her. In fact I think it was J.G. who first brought up spoof calls to me. But they weren’t the last. So I don’t want to lay that blame entirely at Jen’s feet (Jen is J.G. if I haven’t made that apparent yet). As we will see by the end of this post there are others out there who think spoof calls are a part of this whole thing.

But first I have to get to a question I have heard a lot lately, especially after that comment about spoof calls and J.G. That question is: Who is J.G.? I can understand that. She’s been quiet for a while now. But that don’t mean she ain’t out there, still part of the big bang. So let me give you a quick Jen refresher. Jennifer G. is a cab driver in Long Island who became part of Mari’s so-called “secret” Facebook page. This group included the likes of Cristin (MM7), Dorothy Price Hill, Susie S., Candyce B.A., and other lonely ladies lacking both in the common sense department and mental stability. Jennifer befriended both Dorothy and Cristin. Jennifer actually spent time with Dorothy, going to her house on at least one occasion. Jen would then meet up with Mari and others at the vigils and Oak beach marches that would often end at the Scalise house. Jen actually befriended the Scalise’s. That was how this group came about. Jen was the connection between Dorothy, Cristin, and Joe Scalise Jr. They all worked together at some point, but Jen was the piece closely connected. Cristin says more than anyone else in the group , it was Jen that tried to convince her (Cristin)  that Hackett was stalking her. Both Dorothy and Jen claim the other called CPS on each other. Yea, their friendship went bad fast. And even though it is said that Jen is still friends with the Scalise family, Jen says she is convinced Fluke is LISK… or in Fluke equations, Flukeyou=LISK. Jen claims Joe Jr. also tried to get her to sell pot for him. That;s not important, but I like putting stuff people said about Fluke out there, I think you can all understand why.  So Yes, spoof calls were brought up a lot by Jen. I can show you countless e-mails from her trying to explain them to me, but this is better:

jen-lisleuth-spoof-calls

That’s Jen if you didn’t know (there I go rule breaking again). So you can see this stuff does get talked about on Websleuths, and yes once again Jen is there pushing it. I don’t deny Jen pushes the spoof call angle. But where did it come from? Fluke? Websleuths? Is it something LE or others are seriously looking into? I don’t know. Well, I know some others seem to be on the subject.

Before I shock everyone (well maybe not everyone) I need to talk about  Mari’s phone records that TKAMB has been passing around. I would really like to post it here, because it would help understand some of what we are about to hear (yes hear). But I don’t know if that’s wise. I’m guessing it’s evidence and isn’t supposed to passed around like TKAMB is doing nor is it supposed to be posted in blogs (like MM7 did with other court room documents). Still I really wish I could, because it does help. It’s out there though, find it, read it, see if it helps sort through the truth of the calls from Hackett or if there was any spoof calls.

Alright let me get to the point, so you all understand what I’m talking about.

I know some of you just don’t see how big of a deal it is that internet sleuths (like the types who flock to Websleuths) are part of a growing nut gathering. People who see themselves as both victims and the only one who can save the day. People throw the word narcissist around. and long time readers know I feel we all have a bit of narcissist in us, social media feeds that beast in us. We all want attention (last time I said this, it rubbed people wrong. Don’t read too much into it. I’m not saying we are all Dorothy, but we live in the 15 minutes of fame world). Still, most of us have balance of some sort. We like to give as well as receive if you know what I mean. I think one of the very first things I posted back on the Red & Black blog, was “true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing”. I live by that. Others don’t get it at all. They think they know it all. And the really bad ones think the rest of us are the ones that just can’t see the truth. Now this is a general statement that covers a lot of territory online.  And you either get what I mean or you don’t. I’m sorry if you are on the side that don’t, but I can’t make you see it. Trust me, you have to come to it on your own. Alright, enough “Red & Black”, let me explain where this less general and more zeroed in.

So what I am trying to say about Websleuths, and particularly those I have encountered on it… they think they are the one who get’s it and the others are not. But they talk in private share ideas and rumors and then use it against each other. I’ve said this, right? They make up multiple screen names on social media and Websleuths accounts. Which I wonder why that is allowed. Maybe people find a way around it, but somehow people are able to have more than one account there and fuck with each other. Yes, they fuck with each other. They sleuth each other, they tell others what they have done together only if it makes someone else look dirty. They also get way involved in the case fucking with people who are part of the investigation and court cases. That place is a mess. And I know a lot of you are not gonna agree with me. Again, I get that it does good… I get that most people there are not crazy or trying to fuck with people. I’m not condemning it anymore than I’m condemning the internet… but even if I know nothing, I know that you get bad with the good. And you know what they say about “one bad apple”.

Alright, I put this off long enough… to make my point let me give you a hypothetical that really happened:

What if the discussion of spoof calls was out there more than you might realize? What if some people though Mari’s phone records even proved spoof calls? What if to prove it could happen, TKAMB spoof called Hawksaw  using Hacketts phone number? That would be something, right? And what if Hawkshaw called Hacketts number back to see who had called him? Let’s say Hawshaw didn’t get an answer, so he hung up. But then a little while later Hackett called Hawkshaw back asking why he called, and of course Hawkshaw would say, “I didn’t call you, you called me”. What kind of confusion would that cause? And what if TKAMB found the whole thing hilarious? OK, I kind of understand that, the whole thing is so ridicules that it is funny. But if something like that did happen, as funny as it is, it’s also messed up. And it would show just how these things go on with the Websleuthers. I know most of you are thinking, no way this really happened. But it did. And not to long ago. The only reason I know about it, is because like MM7, TKAMB like to tape her phone calls and then pass them around. That also proves what I have been saying about how a lot of these nuts use the same exact tactics. But I’ve said enough, hear for yourself. I’m sure we will have a lot to talk about after wards:

https://clyp.it/5snkejby

I told you it really happened!

Lots to discuse here, I know, but let’s start with this. Listening to these to talk was as bad as listening to the Flukeyou/MM7 calls. Sorry, but these are your great sleuths with so much information? Please.

So Hawkshaw starts off saying he figured it was a spoof call, so I’m guessing stuff like this has happened before. OK I’m not guessing, I know it has. And I know Websleuths and other places have talked about it at some point.

Next… damn, TKAMB cracks herself up. I like how Hawshaw asks what the point was. I don’t know if he ever really got it. Do you see that neither of them care about bothering Hackett even though they seem to both think he has nothing to do with LISK? That’s how so many from Websleuths work… get your ideas across no matter who you have to fuck with.

I love how this shows exactly what I have been saying, email sharing, phone calls…  interfering more than actually helping.

Much more here, but TKAMB calling the Gilberts liars… can’t let that go by with out a mention. That’s  how it works, friends some places, stab in the back behind public posts. In fact I bet TKAMB describes this conversation with Hawshaw much definitely then how it is. It seems very friendly, but I bet she sees it as Hawkshaw being another idiot way beneath her who just can’t see what she does. In fact I know she does.

Love how they don’t want to really be involved… damn if that ain’t funny.

This is just part of the big picture of how Websleuthers fuck with each other and therefore the cases they are sleuthing also get fucked with… and I find the whole thing fucked.

What this proves to me most of all, that these 2 people who claim to know the truth, who claim to see what others don’t, they don’t really know anything either. It’s Hackett, It’s Burke, it’s Pak.

It’s a game to these people. They are caught up in being right and knowing more than their sleuthing peers. And they fuck with each other… oh yes they fuck with each other.

Let It Snow!

Snow has returned to the blog. I get so giddy inside when I pull up The Blog and see the white flakes falling in front of the blog background of Zero’s world. It’s just so festive.

It’s also nice to see lots of new readers. For those of you who have found this place because of the new series on A&E, “The Killing Season”, I’d like to welcome you and hope you continue reading for a while now that you have found us.  I plan to cover quite a few things from the show as well as discuss my own conversations with Rachel and Josh in future posts. I have watched all 6 episodes so far and am eagerly waiting the rest. The show is very thorough in my opinion. One of the best I have seen on what I call The LISK Onion. I have noticed quite a few other out there think so as well. But I’m a little puzzled at some of those out there commenting on how good the show is, because these same people have said my blogs are  terrible and I should stop wasting (spelled right) my time, etc. Not that I mind, you all know I love my haters. But really (and I have said this before) I don’t get it. People praise places like Websleuths and shows like Killing Seasons but dump all over my blogs, when we all have covered a lot of the same things. Hackett, Brewer, Bisset, LISK.com, AC4, New Mexico, Florida, Neal Falls,  Serial Killer Truckers, Flukeyou (You’ll be happy to know Junior, that since you were on The Killing Season, the Flukeyou posts are getting record views!). Yes, I have written about most of the same things and yet I’m the bad guy while all these others are searching for truth and keeping the case alive.

Oh well, they don’t call me Zero for nothing.

Still, I hope everyone continues reading for a little while longer (at least ’till the snow stops falling), I think you will find quite a few interesting posts coming up. If I am going to bring this blog to some kind of end, there is much that we need closure on. And all though I really don’t care what people think of me (O.K. that’s not entirely true. We say things like that, but deep down we do care what people think about us. So deep down I’m no different. But on the surface “I Just Don’t Give A Fuck”), I would like to explain fully why I continued to blog about the people and subjects covered in all 3 of my blogs. Why I felt it was important to continue to write about Fluke, Dorothy, and The LISK Onion.

Lots to get to, so I better get to it. Again I hope you all will stay with me for a little longer, new readers, those there from the beginning, friends, haters, sleuthers, gamers, Fluke, Dorothy,Jen, Cristin, Nerd, The exiles, and yes, even you Nancy. I used to say “we’re just getting started”, well, we are past all of that now. We are ready to finish.

Until then… Let It Snow!

Any Last Words? Part 2

It’s been a while since we all heard about Mari’s death and I said there would be a week of silence on the blog. Much more than a week has passed by, in fact a whole season has gone. Summer became Fall and Fall is half way through.

I recently wrote on here,  “the longer I stay away from the blog, the easier it is not to return”, and that keeps getting truer and truer. I like writing here and interacting with all the different readers (well most of you) but just letting go of all the madness that circles this blog and enjoying life these last few months has started me thinking towards ending the blog all together. I’m sure this won’t come to much surprise, I mean did anyone really expect it to go on longer than 3 years?

The problem is, even when the blog is quiet the nut gallery keeps on yapping. Dorothy declared war on the blog a few weeks back, I have to admit that brought a smile to my face. Some of you might have seen Fluke returned to let me know the blog sucks, thank you Fluke, coming from you that means a lot. I noticed some of the exiles like Susie S., Candyce B., and Crictin K. came out of hiding to say a few words about Mari, I don’t have anything to say about that, that was totally expected. In fact I expected many of the exiles to resurface and have things to say now that Mari is gone. I expected it, was worried about it, and saw it happen. I was a little surprised to see how many quickly turned on Mari, but I knew that would come too. Even her attorney who used to say how strong of a woman Mari was, and what a great mother she was, quickly changed his tune, accusing Mari of child neglect and mental illness. Comments flying around about Mari being into witchcraft and arguments on the difference of black and white magic…. more of the crap the LISK case does not need.

A few have come to me asking my feelings on John Ray and I was not kind with my words. More than ever the guy seems like a snake to me. But I have had more time to think about it, and maybe he is just trying to help the Gilbert family in any way he can now. Maybe he is just trying to do right by Mari and Shannan by saving Sarra. I don’t know, and it’s really not for me to pass judgment. The Gilbert’s have had too much tragedy in their lives, I’ve said that many times before, and I don’t want to be part of any hurtful words towards them. I think most of my readers understand that and know of my careful skirting around when it comes to the Gilberts. That hasn’t changed with Mari’s death, in fact it’s only made it harder. I don’t want to be writing about any of this, but the time has come to stop putting a new post off or just stop posting. And I’m just not quite at the latter yet.

Still I will not judge or question any of the Gilberts and I know that puzzles some of my readers. Yes, many of us have questioned about mental states of the family and if this played into them connecting to others with questionable mental state. We have all long ago seen that connection in the interactions between the Gilberts and those like Dorothy, Joey, Jen, Candyce, Cristin, and the list goes on and on. Questions of bi-polar and schizophrenia as well as other mental illness surrounds them all. But these are things long ago known, and I don’t see the purpose to pounce on it all now. I still strongly feel hurt and sorrow for the Gilberts, they have suffered a lifetime of tragedy and therefore I can understand (in some way) the reasons they go about things or the mental instability that comes with such tragedies. I just wish it didn’t affect the Gilgo Beach case the way it has and does. But I don’t lay that blame on the Gilberts. That goes right down the line bouncing back and forth between the Jens and Cristins and ends right at the top of crazy with Flukeyou and Dorothy.

Can you tell I’m struggling with this post? I’m this close to deleting all that I’ve written so far…

Look, I agree that things like the Shannan Facebook memorial and Mari’s blog have let questionable people get involved with lies and misdirection. I think some of those who joined Mari on the vigils and marches on Oak Beach have done great damage to the case and hurt the lives of innocent people. Yes, it’s a mess but I don’t see how blaming the Gilberts or shinning spotlights on their tragic home life will help solve the LISK case nor stop all the nuts who pushed their ways into it all.

I’d like to think Mari is with Shannan and all that tragedy and heart ache between them has dissolved, giving way to pure love, forgiveness, and an eternity of happiness. I hope they await us all someplace where all the questions and pain of life’s hardness are forgotten.

Still I know the questions for all of us live on, and many will continue to search for answers and some will continue to spread lies to confuse the rest of us. The question is will this blog be a part of it any more?

If this is to be the last year of the blog, at the very least I owe my readers the best “ta da” I can.

So… any last words… any one?

Cristin? Some public apologies maybe?

Jen? I actually contacted Jen a short while ago to question her on something Mari had told me about Jen. Jen, of course denied it and questioned my purpose for contacting her. Classic Jen. By the way Jen, I know you are talking to people, I hope you are keeping to the truth and not some made up “cloak and dagger” shit.

Candyce? Susie? Any thing to say? Doubt it. Not under those names at least.

Nerd? I know you are still out there. End some of the confusion, I know you can.

Joey? I know you have some last words, but it will just be the same old shit.

Websleuthers? Where ya at? I’m looking forward to some of the things you all have to say. I doubt you will like what I have to say about all of you.

Nancy? Just kidding, no last words needed from you. In fact I beg you… keep it on your Facebook.

Dorothy? Nothing you can say will ever make up for all the crap you have said and done. But if you have any last words, get ’em out, because you know I will have plenty of last words for you.

That goes for everyone really. Truthspider, Son of Man, Dawhoda, Gino, Mr. Harvard, Radionewz, Julia, Michelle McKee, PS149…

Any last words?

Now’s the time.

Michelle McKee Part 2

Not long after my last post a few weeks ago, Michelle McKee had tweeted something like “Don’t post your blog on your enemies site, because that let’s them see how many readers you have. Or should I say don’t have.” I’m paraphrasing because I can’t see the exact tweet any longer because that Twitter account is gone. This happens a lot on Twitter.

Since my last post was about McKee, it would be easy to feed into the madness and say that her Tweet must have been about Zero’s World and therefore her twitter being gone has to do with my Mckee post… lol… I’m not gonna do that though. Her tweet was for Deric aka KY (lol, I used to giggle whenever I saw his screen name… I know… I’m juvenile) and I’m sure her twitter being gone has something to do with all that as well.

McKee probably never even saw my other post and probably won’t read this one either. I don’t blame anyone for ignoring me… it’s a very rational thing to do. In fact I almost wasn’t gonna write this post, I was just gonna move on, lord knows there is plenty of other things to get to and I’m dragging my feet as usual.

Yes, who cares, skip it, move on.

But it said “to be continued…”

How many other post end with “to be continued” or hint to a continuing post and go nowhere? Don’t answer that, it was rhetorical. But there are way to many.

Plus McKee said I should “catch up while shutting the fuck up”:

mk tweet1

With McKee’s Twitter being gone, “shutting the fuck up” is all hers. Don’t worry, she’ll be back, if she doesn’t already have another twitter account. In the meantime… let’s all catch up. My way of course… so pay attention, I don’t want to lose anyone important.

Don’t know who Michelle McKee is? You should probably just skip this post then… but if you are curious… this is where to start:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/05/anonymous-rape-steubenville-rehtaeh-parsons-oprollredroll-opjustice4rehtaeh?page=1

Here are the 3 of them together before it would all go bad:

Michelle McKee, her blogger friend Alexandria Goddard aka Prinnie, and the subject of the tweets that brought me back into discussing them all again… Deric Lostutter aka KYAnoymous (giggle).

If you do not know of the Steubenville Rape Case, hit your google and read up on it. It is a tragic story. I have written about it in other posts but don’t plan to get to deep into it in this post. What happened there was tragic and I’m sure many think the 3 mentioned above are heroes for making the case national news. At one time at least. Because things got very muddy. Again, not gonna get to deep into all that. But things got out of control that’s for sure.

I’m sure some of you are asking, how did I come to follow the whole saga. Well that would be thanks to MM7, which as I said in part 1 of this 2 part post ( I don’t think it will become a trilogy post… but who knows? Trilogies are always best in my opinion… but you all know that), MM7 and McKee were friends of some sort (I think they know each other from the Casey Anthony case and possibly Websleuths…. everyone seems to have come from Websleuths at some point… you all have been there… right?)

But it is this tweet that got the ball rolling:

CK drone tweet

The red graffiti on the tweet is by Murt, who claims someone from anonymous (what an oxymoron that is, “someone from anonymous”, if not an oxymoron then something just as screwy, because who the fuck is really anonymous? Any one who claims to be right… well as long as you have you Guy Fawkes mask) sent him the tweet.

Now I should stop here to let the uninformed know that this guy Murt (who I know many online do not like and think he’s quite creepy) has had an online feud with Michelle McKee for years and years and years.

I should also point out, that long after all this MM7 admitted the drone she found in her yard probably belonged to her then husband’s friend, who was living in their guest house, (yes, she told me this, meaning that, like I said many times, everyone seemed to like messing with MM7). I don’t know when MM7 came to the relegation that the drone did not belong to her”self created” stalker, but we all know at the time she relentless that this toy proved she was being stalked and now that she had tweeted to McKee about it, McKee didn’t skip a beat getting Murt involved.

In return MM7 didn’t skip a beat making Murt the star of her defunct blog:

https://mm7vslisk.wordpress.com/2013/04/29/murt-the-stalker/

https://mm7vslisk.wordpress.com/2013/05/04/just-when-i-thought/

https://mm7vslisk.wordpress.com/2013/05/01/you-be-the-judge/

Murt didn’t skip a beat making MM7 the star of his own “stalker playing victim” blog:

http://murtwitnessone.com/?s=drone

Radio didn’t skip a beat jumping in on all of it:

http://radionewz.net/2013/05/has-murtwitnessone-been-outed-as-being-in-a-sex-trafficking-ring/

Let me stop once more to say that I’ have blogged about most of this in other posts and you can find them all by clicking on different tags or categories you see connected to this post. The good thing about it all coming back up though is that I can add and update things. Like show you the actual emails between MM7 and Murt:

murt first email to mm7

murt email to mm7

For some reason Murt wrote MM7 twice… but I doubt he would have written at all if he knew what the reply would be:

mm7 reply to murts email

Yea, I bet he wanted to take his emails right back… or maybe not… Murt is a strange guy to say the least and he is attracted to the back ‘n forth. Regardless he replied:

murt second email to mm7

And with that they were all off to the races. It led all the way to Murt being the subject of a certain blog:

https://officialshannangilbert.wordpress.com/murt-many-names-many-agendas/

Before we go on I have to mention that when I went back to look at old posts I made on all this there are “links” that don’t go through any more. This is something I notice from time to time when reading my old posts, and this sucks. Sometimes the places I have linked just are no longer there, other times they may have been removed from people who don’t want me linking them here. It’s frustrating though, because I know what that is like reading at old places like “Catching LISK” and “LISK.com”. There are all sorts of “links” that no longer take you to where they once did. And that is the internet for ya. So since we are going back over all this, just in case the “link” to the Flukeyou post on Radionewz above doesn’t go anywhere or you are just to lazy to go click it… here is the post:

flukeyou on radio

Here is the 5 comments that go with this post:

comments radio fu1

comments radio fu2

That is definitely MM7, but as she comments, it’s probably not Fluke Boy Joey, and the Truthspider is probably also not really Truthspider at least not the Brendan Murphy one. Which is quickly demonstrated in a post supposedly written by Truthspider:

truthspider post on radio

And here is the 4 comments that went with the post:

comments radio spider1

comments radio spider2

comments radio spider3

MM7, once again letting us know these are not really Truthspider and Flukeyou (I wonder if that is the real Mockingbird, you know from Websleuths, yes I’m very curious about that). So these posts were just someone at Radio keeping the beat going… nothing wrong with that, right?

Keeping the beat going is what we all have in common. I wonder if MM7 ever realized that her friend McKee got her involved with people who were really making fun of her in a way. Yes, to me it seemed Radionewz was making fun of MM7 as much as they were Murt. If you read Radionewz enough, you get the feeling they think that about all those they write about. Yes, like this place in a way… but I lump myself right into it all, I admit I’m no better, well at least not much better… I’m not sure Radio does this… nor does Michelle, Murt, or MM7 for that matter. Ugh… 3 M’s.

They all think they are the sane ones and those out there playing the “back ‘n’ forth” with them are obviously crazy. And I agree… lol. Am I contradicting myself again? Sorry… it’s unavoidable.

I talk about parallel lines a lot, and I have to say, I see them here in 3 different groups connected by 3 crazy ladies (man, that comment might get me in trouble). McKee and her buddies Prinnie and KY (the 3 avenging angels turned 3 stooges) worked together, supposedly to help someone who had been victimized. Later they all turned on each other and accused the others of betrayal.

McKee then connects to MM7 who we all know was part of a group who worked together supposedly to help someone who had been victimized (in this case it was the victims and families of the victims in the LISK case). Later they all turned against each other and accused the others of betrayal.
MM7 then connects to Dorothy Price Hill who was part of the whole Lawless America/Bill Windsor group who worked together to supposedly help someone who had been victimized (in this case it was the countless lemmings wronged by out corrupt court system). Later they all turned against each other and accused the others of betrayal.
Yes, parallel lines. And almost all of them end in lawsuits or threats of lawsuits.

See, all very entertaining like I said. And, also like I said, very predictable… “the beat goes on”.

But Michelle McKee disagrees and just wants me to “catch up while shutting the fuck up”.

So are we all caught up? McKee, Prinnie, and KY got together to go against the evils of Steubenville. Some say questionable tactics were used by the 3 of them (parallel lines), which also brought the group Anonymous into, once again, questionable light. I’m not trying to start a fight with Anonymous, I have said before, the idea of Anonymous is beautiful to me, but in the whole of things, because anyone and everyone can be Anonymous, the fights they chose and the tactics they use are often questioned. And it isn’t getting any better for the group… the last 2 big operations against Trump and ISIS haven’t done a whole lot… the last I check both are still thriving. I’m just saying, maybe Anonymous needs to take a good look at itself… if that’s at all possible. “Itself” is a question on its own when it comes to Anonymous.

I got sidetracked… sorry.

McKee, Prinnie, and KY, under all the pressure, self destruct in a way and turn against each other. Which you can see played out in the posts of Radionewz way back in 2013, take a look:

http://radionewz.net/2013/10/michelle-mckee-to-subpoena-all-of-steubenville-rhinaman-goes-almost-hollywood/

This is from October 2013 and begins:

radio on mckee suepenas

See? Entertaining, ironic, funny, sad… all the things I said and more. In case you don’t see… this is about McKee planning to subpoena everyone in Steubenville back in 2013 and right now, the thing McKee want’s me to catch up on, the thing everyone is mad at KY about (now), is that KY is subpoenaing them all:

mckee sepeona

Yes, Michelle… you are your own worst enemy, we all are. There are some interesting comments on that Radio post:
comment radio on mckee lunatic

There, my crazy comment isn’t so far off then, right?  And I couldn’t agree more with Anita Sedative… clean up your own backyard before going into others… I say this all the time, don’t I… glass houses and all that? What else was said in the comments?

comments from radio on mckee meltdowns

Ahhh… good stuff. Want more?

http://radionewz.net/2013/10/michelle-mckee-now-blames-a-prinnies-doe-for-feeding-info-to-kyanonymous/

Lots of good comments in that one… way to many for me to snip… so you’ll have to click on the link and read for yourself (if the link still works whenever you read this).

Here’s 3 good ones I had to snip:

radio mckee anonymous

radio mckee ecorcisom

radio drunk mckee tweets1

radio drunk mckee tweets2

radio drunk mckee tweets3

Can I get a “Wow Bob Wow”?

In the comments of Michelle McKee Part 1, the subject of whether radio takes things too far came up… that’s up to the individual I guess… I’m sure McKee felt they did back then. Just as KY seems to think others took it to far now. I’m sure they all think I take things too far. And maybe I do. Then again maybe I just go where it’s taken. Again, that’s up to the individual.

I myself like reading at Radionewz and this blog is highly influenced from me reading there. They even summed this all up much simpler than the Frankenstein Monster you just read:

http://radionewz.net/2016/03/does-the-stuebenville-drama-ever-end/

radio new post1

radio new post2

Great post. Glad it was all summed up… I guess my own post really isn’t needed. Damn, another waisted 2110 words.

But since we took this journey to “catch up” (and we are really caught up now) I have to ask:

Was my tweet really so far from the mark?

Let’s look at it again:

zw tweet to radio and mk

I find it quite acceptable and right on the mark.

I have to stop… there isn’t much more to say… alright there’s always plenty more to say, but those eggs ain’t gonna color themselves.

Caught up and now shutting the fuck up… for now at least… again… trilogies are always the best!

The End?

The JBs Of LISK

I started this post a while back, after the news of John Bittrolff’s arrest. I found all the JBs floating around  the LISK case curious. I started to shy away from LISK related posts though, so this post and a few others were never finished or posted. I really wanted to just see where it was all going. The Bittrolff case keeps being pushed back, wonder if there’s good reason. But with other news finally coming to a real light, and the FBI finally getting involved in the LISK case (at least publicly) I thought I’d go back and touch up this post and actually post it:

Joseph Brewer:  Brewer was one of the last people to see Shannan Gilbert alive. He hired her through Craigslist, she spent hours at his house, leaving with him at some point, returning to Brewer’s home a short time later. Then after some confusion between Shannan, Brewer, and Shannan’s driver, Michael Pak, Shannan ran off, according to her panicked 911 call, afraid for her life.

All this alone would make Brewer a suspect in at least Shannan’s death, I would think. But he was ruled out as a suspect fairly quickly. Many find that puzzling, and I would have to agree. Besides the fact Shannan was hired by Brewer and ran from his house in fear, which I said was reason alone to keep him on the suspect list tell the case was actually solved, there are other things.

I’ve read mixed stories on Brewer both cooperating with LE and not being so cooperative. Which is correct, maybe they are both true. Maybe there are things he was not so cooperative about, and if so, again, why was he cleared so fast? He was definitely not very cooperative with Robert Kolker, the author of “Lost Girls”. In fact from my reading of the book, I got the feeling Brewer was trying to “yank” Kolker’s “chain”, I got the idea Kolker felt that way as well. Brewer tells Kolker he has information that could help, but he wants money from Kolker to explain further. Really? If he had information that could help shouldn’t he have already given it all to LE? I guess that depends on how cooperative he was.

In fact the only information he seems to have for LE or Kolker has to do with him and Shannan discussing if he runs into a lot of transsexuals when he orders up call girls online. Brewer has stated that when the subject of transsexuals came up, he started to wonder about Shannan and wanted her to leave.

All of that just doesn’t seem right to me. I don’t believe that is why Shannan ran from the house, none of what I have heard Brewer has said seems to make any sense. I’m guessing Kolker felt the same, because even though Brewer hinted that was the core to the case, Kolker did not seem to buy into it and did not spend a lot of time on Brewer’s strange transsexual link.

Which brings me back to LE. What did Brewer tell LE for them to take him off the suspect list so fast? They bought the whole transsexual discussion? There has to be more there, but from what I have seen, Brewer isn’t helping and therefore, still a suspect. Definitely suspicious.

There are lots of strange things that jump out when looking at Brewer, but the most damaging in my eyes is written in a book called “Confessions of The Oak Beach Drifter”. I own and have read this book whose author is named simply: W. When it comes to W and this book there are all sorts of things we could discuss (some even dealing with Dorothy and Cristin who both had quite a bit of contact with the author of “Confessions Of A Oak Beach Drifter”)  and maybe at a later time I will do a post dealing with this book in more detail. For now just a little back ground for those who don’t know much about it.

At some point it became public that there might have been someone staying with Brewer the night Shannan went running from his house. The news reports on this mysterious individual dubbed him a drifter and the name stuck. Some thought Hackett gave info to LE on this “Drifter” to take the heat off him, others thought it might have come from Flukeyou aka Joseph Scalise Jr. (another Oak Beach resident, but you all know Fluke) to help confuse the case even more. But after talking to the drifter myself, as well as reading different comments he has posted on the blogs and sites I’ve been to, and as I said, reading his book myself, it is clear that the Drifter believes it was Brewer who told police he (the Drifter) stayed with Brewer at the Oak Beach home. The drifter has also clearly stated that he had left the beach house before the night Shannan was there. How it was leaked to media or LE is not too important at this point, though if it was someone like Joey or Hackett, I guess it could be. Just makes sense Brewer brought up the drifter, so I’m gonna leave it at that, but as I said, this book brings up all sorts of things to be discussed.

The reason I’m bringing it up now is because of some of the things said about Brewer and the beach house by the book’s author.
In the book the author calls himself Vito (boy did Cristin and Dorothy chase that name around) the name given to Brewer is Damon. It should be noted that Damon (Brewer) is said to be someone Vito (Drifter) went to school with (“an old school buddy”) yet Damon doesn’t come into the Drifters book till page 256, chapter 59 in a book of 63 chapters. The book describes Damon (Brewer) as “a degenerate drug addict who ran into some money when his father passed away”.  Although the first 58 chapters is full of drug deals and busts, dealers and users, so it’s fair to say Vito’s circle of friends consisted entirely of the type of people Brewer is described to be. In fact the whole reason Vito and Damon get together after all these years is because Vito is hiding from drug dealers and Damon had a house on the beach Vito could stay at and hide out.

This drug dealer (who is named Mario in the book) is a main character in the book and Vito’s life from what it seems. You also learn that the reason Vito and Damon have a falling out (prompting Vito to move out of the beach house) is because Damon admits he might have let it slip out that Damon was staying with him and it got back to Mario. Mario is someone I’d love to talk about since the book states instead of coming to confront Vito once he knows where he is, he runs to Florida (they all run to Florida, don’t they?) But I don’t want to get to far off topic.

Bottom line, even though Brewer is mentioned late in the book, the book’s author definitely wants the reader to question Brewers involvement in all this. And it does seem most of it is put into the book as an afterthought. In other words the book was intended to be about Vito’s life which didn’t have much to do with Brewer, Oak Beach, or LISK. Then after what happened there (bodies found), the thought of what went on in Brewer’s beach house was questioned and brought up. There are talks of parties at the beach house and other questionable goings on there, just not part of the main story line. In fact Vito doesn’t write about anything special going on at the beach house in the chapter about him being there. he does though hint at things in the epilogue. But it is clear that drugs were a big part of Vito’s (Drifter) and  Damon’s (Brewer) life. Well that and the fact that “professional entertainment” was also a big part of it. The Drifter says all of this in his epilogue and even Brewer himself seems to admit it.

If you think about Brewer’s strange discussion of transsexuals with Shannan, Brewer is said to have said Shannan asked if he runs into transsexuals a lot. Implying to me at least that they discussed Brewer using a lot of hired “help”. I know that’s a lot of hearsay and he said she said, but sometimes that’s all we got in all of this to go by.

All I’m saying is both The Drifter and Brewer seem to admit that other call girls have been brought to that beach house and drug parties were definitely part of the scene.

All of this seems to me say that Joseph Brewer can not and should not be ruled out as a suspect, definitely he is still a POI!

The thing that really bothers me about all this, is the Drifter says he has never been questioned or approached by LE. That may have changed, but according to the last I read on it, the Drifter had yet to be questioned about any of this. According to the book he moved to Florida (like his dealer he once hid from in Oak Beach). Why wouldn’t LE want to question things written about in this book? From the tales of prostitutes and drugs to the main story of this bad guy called “Mario” who may have had reason to visit the beach house in Oak Beach.

Why wouldn’t police want to check out ALL stories surrounding Brewer and that house?

We’ll get to that question at the end of this post. We’ll have more facts to go on by then, I’m sure. But for now we have to head straight into rumor and internet speculations…

James Bissett III:

Bringing up this name generally gets 2 ideas from people.

A. Bissett is LISK, but for some reason LE does not want to go public with this information.

or

B. Bissett was going to be used as a scape goat by LE, but for some reason they couldn’t get it to stick.

Both ideas seem unlikely to me and I’ll get to my reasoning why, but as I said, when Bissett’s name is mentioned, these are the 2 most talked about ideas revolving around him.

For those who don’t know who Bissett is, he is an aquarium owner in Long Island who was found in what police called an apparent suicide not long after Shannan’s body was found.

When I first heard about Bissett I was told the whole thing was made up by Dorothy. (Dorothy actually says police killed Bissett and covered it up) Then it was hinted that Jen actually helped make the rumor of James Bissett so prominent on the internet. But the more I brought the name up, the more I started hearing a common thread. Quite a few people say that they heard from a LE friend that Bisssett was a strong suspect. I’ve been told it and I have read it, people with friends in LE claim they heard Bissett was indeed connected to LISK in some way.

So is Bissett just a rumor that the internet made larger than life, or is there something there about LE knowing more about the apparent suicide then they have let out.

The whole thing found its way into news articles:

http://archive.longislandpress.com/2012/12/16/gilgo-victims-families-frustrated-wonder-if-answers-will-ever-come/

Though most was discussed in comments like it is here:

http://www.topix.com/forum/county/suffolk-ny/TB5223F0NEOB01FV0/p18

There as well as other places you will find comments like these:

bissett comment

Oh those anonymous commenters.

It got so out of control that LE decided to issue a press release on the subject:

Investigators issue press release on Gilgo Internet rumors

(05/08/12) WOODBURY – Suffolk County District Attorney Thomas Spota and the Suffolk County Police Department issued a statement this afternoon in regard to recent rumors involving a possible suspect in the Gilgo Beach murders.

The statement reads as follows:

During the past few weeks we have received hundreds of questions from members of the media about the accuracy of rumors represented on various websites regarding the solving of what is commonly referred to by the media as the Gilgo Beach murder case.

The solving of these murders has been, and will remain, a top priority for the Suffolk County Police Department and the Suffolk County District Attorney’s office. All necessary law enforcement resources are being devoted to solving this case.

As with any active investigation, the Suffolk County Police Department and the district attorney’s office should not and will not comment on who may or may not be a suspect.

Additionally, as far as updates on this investigation are concerned, neither agency will comment further at this time until we have some additional information pertaining to the investigation that serves the public or the investigation by its release.

Unfounded, anonymous internet postings or rumors about who may be a suspect should be given the appropriate weight they deserve by those who read them. It should be remembered that this type of unsubstantiated “gossip” can cause substantial harm and emotional trauma, not only to the members of the families mentioned on the internet postings, but also to the families of the victims.

While we are confident that this long, complicated, difficult investigation will eventually be brought to a successful conclusion, it will be the facts and evidence that will lead us to this conclusion and not internet rumors. “

Bissett isn’t mentioned in the statement, but from all I’ve seen it was posted because of all the rumors surrounding Bissett.

I’m still not sure what if anything Bissett’s death has to do with LISK, all I’m saying is to this day it is still discussed as if there is some kind of connection there.  Although I find it hard to see real connections. If LE had some legitimate information on Bissett’s involvement, it would have been looked into and something more would have been made public. And if LE wanted to pin it on Bissett (Dorothy’s idea that Bissett was a fall guy), then why didn’t they?

So unless there is some reason to believe LE had some reason to not solve the LISK case a Bissett connection seems very unlikely. Is there some reason? Will get there, not yet though… we have another JB that definitely seems to fit in to all this somehow…

John Bittrolff:

Now here’s a JB that actually seems to be leading somewhere. In fact he even has his own wiki article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bittrolff

I’m not going to say too much about Bittrolff (waiting and hoping something will come out of his arrest though) but it was quite the story how LE actually caught their suspect:

http://pix11.com/2014/07/22/manorville-man-arrested-in-two-cold-case-murders-of-women-police/

Like an episode of CSI right there. Did you read the comments? Did you see Nan Nan? I keep telling everyone how important comments are.

Alright, so LE may have their guy when it comes to at least 2 murders. Is he connected to the 3rd as LE believes? Maybe even connected to the GB4 or the many other bodies found along Long Island beaches and highways. Not according to LE, but as you may already realized, this post is getting to why maybe what has been said by LE is not to be accepted as facts without question any longer (which some have said all along).

Before we finally get to the JB that brings all of that into question I want to leave this JB with a couple of  rumors, that if true make Bittrolff seem more involved than LE has said.

First is the connection between one of Bittrolff’s believed victims and one of LISK’s known victims. Many probably have heard about an online comment posted by a young woman named Amanda Beinlich several years ago. Turns out her mother, Rita Tangredi, was one of Bittrolff’s alleged victims in 1993. Her best friend was Melissa Barthelemy, the first woman discovered in burlap on Gilgo Beach in December 2010.

Here’s an article I found it mentioned in:

http://pix11.com/2015/03/17/from-gilgo-beach-to-atlantic-city-a-serial-killer-by-the-sea/

It is also mentioned in this thread:

http://www.officialcoldcaseinvestigations.com/showthread.php?13491-L-I-S-K/page8

I actually first read of it on Websleuths, but you know I’m not allowed to post their stuff here. LOL.

It’s things like this that make me scratch my head. Is this just another internet feed rumor or was Rita Tangredi the mother of Melissa Barthelemy’s best friend?

Everything I have read about such a connection comes from a comment supposedly left on the internet by Amanda Beinlich. I have yet to come across anything to substantiate any of it.

Can’t police or FBI look into this Amanda and see first if she’s real and then second, if what she wrote in that comment is true? Why wouldn’t a reporter go chasing this story? Wouldn’t an interview with Amanda Beinlich be a good catch? There are far too many stories in all of this that seem to be easily corrected as false or sought out for possible important information. And yet none of it is.

Would you believe I even heard a rumor that Bittrolff worked on at least one property at Oak Beach and knew at least some one there? It’s true. Someone has placed Bittrolff in Oak Beach and has said he knew people there.

If any of this stuff is true and if Bittrolff is found to have murdered Colleen McNamee and Rita Tangredi, then how can he be so easily dismissed as a LISK suspect?

There has been lots of talk about corruption in LE where the LISK case is involved. There’s also been talk that LE is holding back information not wanting some things leaked and therefore jeopardizing the case. So has LE of Suffolk County been misleading the public about the LISK case? That answer seems to have been answered to some degree. From the beginning I saw reason to believe both LE might be keeping things close not wanting to give out too much of what they might know as well as the fact something seemed dirty. Something was just not right. We all know now that leads right to another JB, maybe the most important one…

James Burke:

The first time seeing this name was in the early emails I got from Dorothy Price Hill. Being on the west coast I did not know who he was.  That quickly changed. Following Dorothy over the internet the past few years I saw several anti Burke comments, “I Hate Burke” sites on social media, etc. James Burke was Suffolk County’s chief of police and not liked very much. I say was, because as anyone who reads here should already know, Burke resigned:

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/suffolk-police-chief-james-burke-resigns-amid-continuing-federal-probe-1.11016791

Although this happened only recently, when it comes to LISK discussions, it’s been a hot topic for a while.

Not long after Dorothy started bringing up Burke to me, someone told me about a guy named Pete who they believed Dorothy was getting her information on Burke from. Well I knew of this Pete guy, Dorothy mentioned him quite a bit, I believe she said he was a cop.

After finally going to Websleuths I saw some of the things Pete had to say on Burke. I also saw a lot on Burke from a commenter named hawksaw. In fact with the latest news on Burke (we are getting there finally) hawksaw has been commenting quite a bit about the ex chief of police. I hope I don’t get in trouble for mentioning this, I know how it’s not allowed to post things from Websleuths in other places (and if I didn’t know, Jen went out of her way to point this out to me), but all I’m saying about it is both Pete and hawksaw seemed to have good information and good insight because the things they have said are finally coming to light.

Again, being from the west coast, it was not easy understanding a straight connection from Burke to LISK though, and really it was only Dorothy going so far as to directly connect him. Saying Burke knew both Brewer and her ex husband. but she also said I knew Brewer and her ex husband, and I knew that was crazy talk, so it was hard to take anything about Burke seriously.

Still, I saw others talking about him and some people sent me links on him and there seemed to be a story about someone stealing a porno/sex tape out of Burke’s car. I even saw where the tape was said to have had one of the LISK victims on it. That definitely would link Burke to the case directly. But I saw this in a Dorothy emails and comments, not sure if I saw any one else mention it other than her at first, plus when I was reading all these things and trying to understand them I came across this:

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/suffolk-police-report-as-sergeant-chief-james-burke-twice-lost-gun-1.6283153

Was there a sex tape? Or was is about a stolen gun? I really didn’t know what to make about all the things being said about Burke. But more and more came out over the last few years and finally the damn broke:

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/crime/james-burke-former-suffolk-police-chief-of-department-arrested-1.11208592

http://nypost.com/2015/12/09/police-chief-beat-junkie-who-stole-his-porn-sex-toys-court-papers/

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/suffolk-police-chief-arrested-alleged-assault-article-1.2460203

So there was a tape and sex toys? Yes, all the rumors were now being confirmed. And as Linda said, more was coming:

http://pix11.com/2015/12/10/fbi-to-have-enhanced-role-in-long-unsolved-gilgo-murders-potential-witness-asks-what-took-so-long/

Burke arrested and the FBI are finally involved in the LISK case? And then:

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/james-burke-ex-suffolk-police-chief-denied-bail-friday-1.11217569

And then:

http://nypost.com/2015/12/12/busted-ex-police-chief-blocked-fbi-probe-of-gilgo-beach-murders/

Wow, that all came down fast. Leaving some to wonder once again, is there a connection between Burke and the LISK. Did Burke for some reason not want the case solved? Well at the very least, FBI is saying Burke kept them out the case. Most likely because he didn’t want them to have access to his dirty laundry. But as I finish up this post I can’t help but wonder what this can of worms is gonna bring to light. I mean sex tapes and beating up hand cuffed junkies. It seems like a lot on all sides of this. And there is sure to be a lot more to come out.

No matter where it all leads at least the FBI are taking a close look at the LISK case and will be looking at all the JBs and everything else needed to get the answers wanted by so many.